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Woman Is Disgusted By Her 25 Y.O. Brother Dating A 16 Y.O., Decides To Uncover Their Secret
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Woman Is Disgusted By Her 25 Y.O. Brother Dating A 16 Y.O., Decides To Uncover Their Secret

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Some might say that you have to stand up to your family members no matter what. At the same time, some might highly disagree with such a statement — what if your family member is doing something so wrong you just can’t stay silent? Like this woman who found out that her brother’s new girlfriend is their 16-year-old neighbor. And since the brother is 25 years old, the woman just couldn’t stay silent.

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What should you do when you learn that one of your family members is doing something illegal, like dating a minor?

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The woman found out her 25-year-old brother was dating their next-door neighbor, who is 16-year-old, and hid the relationship

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She told the girl’s parents about the relationship, they called the cops, and many people in the woman’s life accused her of ruining her brother’s life

During one of the family dinners on Sunday, the OP’s 25-year-old brother told everyone he has a new girlfriend named Ann, whom he met on campus. The next morning, the post’s author noticed her brother talking to a next-door neighbors’ 16-year-old daughter named Mary Ann. When they kissed, the OP understood that her sibling’s new girlfriend was a teenage girl she used to babysit years ago.

So, she let her parents know about it, but they dismissed it as a harmless crush. That didn’t satisfy the OP, so she went to the girl’s parents and told them the truth. Contrary to the post’s author’s parents, the girl’s folks had quite a reaction — they called the cops.

It seemed that everyone in the post author’s life heard about this situation. And interestingly, not many were on the OP’s side, and they accused her of ruining her brother’s life and/or being jealous (even though she’s in a committed relationship). In fact, the only ones on her side were a few of her friends and her aunt with a husband. So, the woman came to Reddit to ask whether she was wrong to tell everyone about her brother’s illegal relationship.

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Well, quite a lot of people on Reddit took her side, just as a few of the woman’s friends and her aunt had. They praised her for being the only adult in the situation who understood how problematic the relationship was. In their words — the OP saved the girl from immense trauma in the future, which would surface once she understood how inappropriate the relationship was.

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The netizens weren’t off when they expressed such a thought. Minors dating older people isn’t a new thing, sadly. And what is more sad is the effect these kinds of relationships have on these minors. 

Minors and adults not only have a gap between their ages number-wise but with regards to their experience and maturity as well. Even if it’s said that the minor is “mature for their age,” it either means that they had to grow up too fast, which can be damaging for their mental health, or it’s simply a manipulation tactic to justify an illegal relationship. 

These relationships usually end in a minor getting traumatized in one way or another. For instance, getting pressured into doing something they don’t want to, being manipulated, getting taken advantage of, and so on. And so, it tends to haunt them for many years to come. 

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So, we can agree with the folks online who stated that the woman speaking out about her brother’s wrongdoing possibly saved the neighbor’s daughter from years of trauma. Just as the OP said in her post — what would have happened if the girl had gotten pregnant? So, the post’s author isn’t the one to blame, but her brother is. At the end of the day, he is a full-blown adult and should have known better than to get involved with such a young girl. 

People online didn’t take the path that many people in the woman’s life took, and they praised her for protecting the girl from an immoral and illegal relationship

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leneeriksen1984 avatar
Lene
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was 17 I got my first bf. He was 27. The relationship was so awful. Like... SA and he tried to make me feel bad for not loving him enough to sacrifice such a "little" thing for him. He even had this ongoing joke with his coworkers about how we'd probably marry some day. He was so gross in so many ways and so f***ing immature! Also, that relationship has ruined so much for me in so many ways. I ended up moving away from Copenhagen partly because I was scared to meet him on the street.... I wasn't sure if I'd end up in a grave or in a prison cell if I did. It was 18 months down the drain for me. He was such an a-hole and he was just a very very bad choice for me. Probably my worst, actually. So if anyone is in doubt: no teenager should be with a person 10 years older than them. In my opinion and personal experience.

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Throw Away
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was 16, he was 26. We dated for a year, then stayed in touch until we got back together when I was 22. I married him at 27 and we had 2 children in 5 years before I found out about his cheating and got divorced. I'm 42 and a single mom of 10 and 13 yr olds. I have struggled my whole life with the grooming he did to me. unhealthy obsession with being a pick me girl that revolves around s3x. Again, I am now 42 and happily divorced from that man but stuck co parenting (or lack thereof) for the next 10 years. YOU DID THE RIGHT THING, YOU SAVED HER AND HOPEFULLY THE OTHERS. IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. good job!!

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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"trying to ruin my brothers chance at love" - because a 16-year-old was his only chance??

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Negatoris Wrecks
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For most of those predatory clowns who pull that bs, yes. You'd be surprised how much pitty and support/enabling immature gross dudes get.

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David
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the sick thing is, if you look at the law, in most European Countries and a 1/3 of US states, this is not actually illegal. Lots of age of consent laws need to change.

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Cecil
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some states in US have consent laws that make sense... not sure but something like a relative age difference of 2 years for people under 20. So a 16yr old can consent to being with an 18 yr old

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BarkingSpider
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone who was in this position at 16, THANK YOU to OP for stepping in. You may feel grown up at 16, but a person in their 20s knows you are still a child. Your brain is not fully formed and often makes bad decisions. Anyone in their 20s trying to date a high school kid has something wrong with them.

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Jopie
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My cousin ages ago had a 20 some y o guy at the door who wanted to go out when she was 16. Aunt said nope. He: But she may decide for herself! Aunt: Nope. We decide. Bye bye. And that was that.

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Laura Lou
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is definitely not in the wrong! A 16 year old and a 25 year old have pretty much nothing in common anyways so it's hard to imagine how her brother could even be attracted to her besides the obvious. Her family and even some of her friends have shown her their true colors by berating her for telling the neighbors (if they thought it was fine why would they be worried that her parents know? They know it's wrong). I hope the girl does well in therapy.

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Tristan J
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bElLa sTairZz
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

as someone around her age in this. a 16 year old should definently not be dating a guy in his mid twenties. you get looks for being with someone two years older let alone NINE

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ILoveMySon
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that this isn't the first assault makes me question whether OP was his victim as well. Perhaps parents don't wish to address "dirty little secrets "?

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Sonja
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is possible that a couple can have a serious relationship with an age gap of 5 years. But there's a huge difference between a guy falling in love with one, certain younger girl and one praying on younger girls. And there's a difference between a guy falling in love and a guy grooming. But here comes the caveat, it is almost impossible for a young girl to find out the difference. From their point of view, with their limited experience, both usually looks the same. They just don't have the neccessary knowledge to see the difference. That's why it's so often illegal. Fact is, true love can wait. And the most important thing is always to do no harm. Protection of children is more important than enabling the rare exception of two people being honestly in love. And I'm saying that after 26 years of happy relationship with my five years older husband whom I met at 16 and started dating at 17. But I wouldn't have known at 17 if he was a predator. I was lucky.

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Tabitha
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, this age gap is 9 years. Second, the girl’s age makes the gap even wider, as she is not an adult, physically, mentally, emotionally, and experience-wise. He IS. If she was 16 and he was 35, it wouldn’t make a difference, but she’s 16 and he’s 25. The balance of power is WAY off in their dynamic. The advantages he could take of her lack of experience are downright horrible. He could tell her anything about adulthood and she will believe him. He could manipulate her into doing just about anything for him “to prove her love”. Disgusting perv is what he is. Hope his parents are proud of their disgusting perv son. The fact that he immediately dummied up when asked particulars about his new girlfriend is a red flag, since he had given the impression he was happy in that relationship—-apparently she isn’t going to be his date to his company’s Company Picnic/Christmas Party/whatever, though I would just love to see a video of him trying to explain her to his boss. Right before he gets fired. If he had sex with these underage girls, the 2 we know of and who knows how many others, that’s called Statutory Rape and it’s a felony. Bro could be looking at felony convictions, each of which could get him 10 to Life on average in most states PLUS he will be on the Sexual Predators List and have to register himself with the police every time he moves house. His known whereabouts and any name changes will have to be reported and added to the National Sex Offender Website. If he manages to get paroled, he can pretty much kiss getting a decent job goodbye. He won’t be able to run from his crimes, no matter what. So , in the eyes of the law (if not those of his parents and the other harassing OP), he pretty much f****d himself, especially if he did the same to at least one of the girls (my money is on yes he did, at least with the other girl and who knows how many other underage girls). At least OP, Aunt and Uncle, and others on her side are people who have their heads on straight.

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Breadcrumb.
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

16 year olds should be kissing other 16 year olds, not grown a*s adult men. 🙄 f*****g creep he should be watched closely.

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Guess Undheit
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are some topics with shades of grey, and different valid points of argument. This. Is. Not. One. Of. Them. The OP, the teen's parents, and everyone who supported them is absolutely on the moral side, and everyone that disagrees supports r@pe culture.

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JustABored1
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!! She absolutely did the right thing!! A 25 yr old shouldn't even be around high school aged GIRLS!! He's the one that should be in therapy, if not jail!!

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MidnightProphecy
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The age of consent definitely needs to be higher, I think it should be 21, young girls make so many bad decisions with older guys thinking it's normal but it's NOT. It's creepy and wrong, I think a ton of women can look back and have experienced an older guy wanting them or dating them when they were too young to understand that it's sick. Me being one of them and to this day it disgusts me and I just didn't realise at the time how sick it is. I'm talking a 31 year old lying about his age to me when I was 15. He looked young. He was not he told me he was 24. Even 24 with a 15 yr old is sick.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bad decisions don't all need to be illegal. This guy is a creep but what we need is education about healthy relationships not pretending everyone will abstain from sex until they are 21. Quite a few states do have a graduated statutory rape scale, so 16 and 18 is ok with consent, or 16 and 21, but not 25 and 16. But the real.solution is ensuring young people understand what a healthy relationship is and isn't and know how to advocate for themselves.

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The Starsong Princess
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The big elephant in the room is this guy assaulted girls before. Good for OP.

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Zedrapazia
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have my now finance since I was 16, he's 8 years older than me and was 24. We still have a great relationship, after all the years that passed. I say it depends, I can't judge over these people. HOWEVER, I am not American either, the age of consent in Switzerland is 16, so no crime was committed.

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Nemo
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can judge about these people. I'm happy that it works out for you and your fiance. They say age is nothing but a number but this is not the first time he is going with girls way younger than him. There are at least two 16 year olds fighting over him. That is not true love. It's a pattern

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Squirrelly Panda
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something no one is pointing out, OP could not ruin her brother's life over a kiss, which is all she can attest to, even if age of consent is 18. No evidence of intercourse. OP absolutely did the right thing as she might have saved not just the child, but also saved her brother from getting a record and/or being put on a predator list

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Tabitha
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh he’ll be investigated alright, and by detectives in the sex crimes unit, because there’s another underage girl he’s been with in the picture, as long as they’re in a state where 16 is below the age of consent. Plus, we don’t know the other girl’s exact age. She could be younger than 16. Bro has already been pushing his luck about getting caught, and OP absolutely did the right thing. Get him off the street, out of the schoolyard, and on law enforcement’s radar.

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Scott Rackley
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

7% in the poll say context matters. 7% of the people who took the poll are child molesters I guess.

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KillerKiwi
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“This is NOT the first time he's been caught assaulting someone in his life” WTH?! She was DEFINITELY right for telling on him. Their relationship was inappropriate and I would also be afraid/worried for the girl especially knowing he’s done this type of s**t before.

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Andrew Arons
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wasn't only right to report her brother, she was also OBLIGATED to. Failure to report a crime can be anywhere from a misdemeanor to a felony, depending on the severity of the crime. And the last time I checked, Statutory Rape is pretty severe.

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Max Fox
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sickest thing here isn't that she was only 16, but that he saw her grow up. I have difficulty thinking of anybody who I babysat as being grownup far into their late 20s and early 30s. The creep was dating somebody that he thought of a child, and it is clear to me that he was dating her because he thought of her as a child. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he had been dating her for a while already.

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Gen X Feral
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 5 grandbabies that are my life. My 3 girls are 10, 12 and 13 and if some mudderflucking grown asss man even looked at them funny I would be in jail with a smile on my face and blood on my hands. Her parents are beyond disgusting and her brother is a sick freak, I hope he rots in jail.

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Kraneia The Dancing Dryad
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh. My "first" was a hefty age gap (11 years between us) but at least I was over 18.... Ick. OP's bro will be lucky if he doesn't end up on a list....

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D W
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You did the right thing and were brave to do so after your parents revealed their true natures. I understand it's a difficult situation with family now, but hold your head up high, you protected a vulnerable young girl from a predator.

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B.Nelson
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Using the classic "not creepy age range formula," a 25-year-old can date someone between 36 and 19.5 without seeming creepy. Formula: take your age, divide it by 2, and add 7 for the lowest non-creepy age to date. For the upper range: take your age, subtract 7, and multiple by 2. That is the higher range. I have no reference for this what so ever.

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Coralinea
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it's ok for a 50 year old to date between 32 and 86? Or a 60 year old from 37-106? Assuming there were enough around, that doesn't sound right.

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Apatheist Account2
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot depends on what the age of consent is where they are. In the UK, it's 16, so this relationship is none of anyone's business but the couple involved. My cousin took up with a man twice her age when she was 16...she's coming up to 60, and they're still together, so it's not always a bad thing.

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Gale Christensen
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a female who was molested and SA'd by more than two dozen boys and men from the time I was 6 years old, thank you for caring enough to step in. I wish someone had been there for me. I was well groomed and completely in their power. I had no one. I can't imagine how my life might have been if someone noticed and stepped in for me.

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Shawna Burt
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh. Oh, no. Honey, no. Him kissing her IS a crime. And you should be reporting him to the police. I hope OP does the right thing and isn't hit with too much blow-back from family.

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Sean Martin
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly this happens a lot in the US south, in conservative Christian communities. Girls as young as 12 get pregnant with an adult. So the 12 year olds parents consent to marriage and it's perfectly legal.

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Jonathan Labelle
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she also say it wasnt the first times it happen so she did the good thing

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Jopie
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a 21 y o bf when I was 13. All my friends called him a pedo. He was just childish. He tried nothing. We exchanged a kiss on the cheek now and then. My mom called his mom to say I was too young and rather fed the ducks. She understood. He just wanted a gf because his brother got one (his own age) too. I met him in high school btw. I thought he was 16. A 14 y o girl who had dated him the year before warned me that I had to watch out, because he was so annoying, he gave flowers LOL.

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Tamra
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm afraid your friends were right. There is no good reason for a 21 year old man to be going after a 13 year old girl. Your mom should have smacked him upside the head with a frying pan.

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Craig Reynolds
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The laws in this country are messed up. You have to be a minimum of age 18, 21 in some places to buy alcohol and tobacco products and anyone caught selling them to you is charged with a crime, but an adult man can have sex with a child and get away with it!

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MidnightProphecy
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How on earth do you reply to comments on this thing?! Anyway thanks to Tabitha for the reply to my comment, and to Tristan - I wasn't 16 I'd just turned 15 and he was lying about his age saying he was 24 when he was in his thirties! Whole heartedly agree with Tabitha for saying what she said it's true. The same man also met me years later again when I was totally wasted and had s** with me even though I was too drunk to even be able to move as I'd drank thank much.

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Alan Williams
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dating miners is always a bad idea. They are always covered in coal dust for a start.

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deanna woods
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents got married when my mom was 16 and my dad was 23. However, my mother was very mature for her age and my dad wanted my mom to not only finish high school, but he wanted her to go to college. They are still married now some forty plus years later and he has never tried to control her or stop her from living her life.

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FluffyDreg
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad things worked out for your parents. But that's not exactly the norm.

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Bree
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Good for the dude and the happy 16yr old. I hope it works out. I stay out of gay peoples romantic lives. I stay out of your romantic life. Seems like the world of nutbags has to poke around behind closed doors for things that dont affect them. Hopefully her brother finds a way to sabotage a relationship she has

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Bree
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Crazy lady posting crazy story. 16 isnt a child, if it is i have news for

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Lene
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I was 17 I got my first bf. He was 27. The relationship was so awful. Like... SA and he tried to make me feel bad for not loving him enough to sacrifice such a "little" thing for him. He even had this ongoing joke with his coworkers about how we'd probably marry some day. He was so gross in so many ways and so f***ing immature! Also, that relationship has ruined so much for me in so many ways. I ended up moving away from Copenhagen partly because I was scared to meet him on the street.... I wasn't sure if I'd end up in a grave or in a prison cell if I did. It was 18 months down the drain for me. He was such an a-hole and he was just a very very bad choice for me. Probably my worst, actually. So if anyone is in doubt: no teenager should be with a person 10 years older than them. In my opinion and personal experience.

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Throw Away
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was 16, he was 26. We dated for a year, then stayed in touch until we got back together when I was 22. I married him at 27 and we had 2 children in 5 years before I found out about his cheating and got divorced. I'm 42 and a single mom of 10 and 13 yr olds. I have struggled my whole life with the grooming he did to me. unhealthy obsession with being a pick me girl that revolves around s3x. Again, I am now 42 and happily divorced from that man but stuck co parenting (or lack thereof) for the next 10 years. YOU DID THE RIGHT THING, YOU SAVED HER AND HOPEFULLY THE OTHERS. IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. good job!!

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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"trying to ruin my brothers chance at love" - because a 16-year-old was his only chance??

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Negatoris Wrecks
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

For most of those predatory clowns who pull that bs, yes. You'd be surprised how much pitty and support/enabling immature gross dudes get.

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David
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the sick thing is, if you look at the law, in most European Countries and a 1/3 of US states, this is not actually illegal. Lots of age of consent laws need to change.

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Cecil
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some states in US have consent laws that make sense... not sure but something like a relative age difference of 2 years for people under 20. So a 16yr old can consent to being with an 18 yr old

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BarkingSpider
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As someone who was in this position at 16, THANK YOU to OP for stepping in. You may feel grown up at 16, but a person in their 20s knows you are still a child. Your brain is not fully formed and often makes bad decisions. Anyone in their 20s trying to date a high school kid has something wrong with them.

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Jopie
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My cousin ages ago had a 20 some y o guy at the door who wanted to go out when she was 16. Aunt said nope. He: But she may decide for herself! Aunt: Nope. We decide. Bye bye. And that was that.

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Laura Lou
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is definitely not in the wrong! A 16 year old and a 25 year old have pretty much nothing in common anyways so it's hard to imagine how her brother could even be attracted to her besides the obvious. Her family and even some of her friends have shown her their true colors by berating her for telling the neighbors (if they thought it was fine why would they be worried that her parents know? They know it's wrong). I hope the girl does well in therapy.

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bElLa sTairZz
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

as someone around her age in this. a 16 year old should definently not be dating a guy in his mid twenties. you get looks for being with someone two years older let alone NINE

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ILoveMySon
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The fact that this isn't the first assault makes me question whether OP was his victim as well. Perhaps parents don't wish to address "dirty little secrets "?

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Sonja
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is possible that a couple can have a serious relationship with an age gap of 5 years. But there's a huge difference between a guy falling in love with one, certain younger girl and one praying on younger girls. And there's a difference between a guy falling in love and a guy grooming. But here comes the caveat, it is almost impossible for a young girl to find out the difference. From their point of view, with their limited experience, both usually looks the same. They just don't have the neccessary knowledge to see the difference. That's why it's so often illegal. Fact is, true love can wait. And the most important thing is always to do no harm. Protection of children is more important than enabling the rare exception of two people being honestly in love. And I'm saying that after 26 years of happy relationship with my five years older husband whom I met at 16 and started dating at 17. But I wouldn't have known at 17 if he was a predator. I was lucky.

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Tabitha
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First, this age gap is 9 years. Second, the girl’s age makes the gap even wider, as she is not an adult, physically, mentally, emotionally, and experience-wise. He IS. If she was 16 and he was 35, it wouldn’t make a difference, but she’s 16 and he’s 25. The balance of power is WAY off in their dynamic. The advantages he could take of her lack of experience are downright horrible. He could tell her anything about adulthood and she will believe him. He could manipulate her into doing just about anything for him “to prove her love”. Disgusting perv is what he is. Hope his parents are proud of their disgusting perv son. The fact that he immediately dummied up when asked particulars about his new girlfriend is a red flag, since he had given the impression he was happy in that relationship—-apparently she isn’t going to be his date to his company’s Company Picnic/Christmas Party/whatever, though I would just love to see a video of him trying to explain her to his boss. Right before he gets fired. If he had sex with these underage girls, the 2 we know of and who knows how many others, that’s called Statutory Rape and it’s a felony. Bro could be looking at felony convictions, each of which could get him 10 to Life on average in most states PLUS he will be on the Sexual Predators List and have to register himself with the police every time he moves house. His known whereabouts and any name changes will have to be reported and added to the National Sex Offender Website. If he manages to get paroled, he can pretty much kiss getting a decent job goodbye. He won’t be able to run from his crimes, no matter what. So , in the eyes of the law (if not those of his parents and the other harassing OP), he pretty much f****d himself, especially if he did the same to at least one of the girls (my money is on yes he did, at least with the other girl and who knows how many other underage girls). At least OP, Aunt and Uncle, and others on her side are people who have their heads on straight.

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Breadcrumb.
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

16 year olds should be kissing other 16 year olds, not grown a*s adult men. 🙄 f*****g creep he should be watched closely.

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Guess Undheit
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are some topics with shades of grey, and different valid points of argument. This. Is. Not. One. Of. Them. The OP, the teen's parents, and everyone who supported them is absolutely on the moral side, and everyone that disagrees supports r@pe culture.

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JustABored1
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA!! She absolutely did the right thing!! A 25 yr old shouldn't even be around high school aged GIRLS!! He's the one that should be in therapy, if not jail!!

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MidnightProphecy
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The age of consent definitely needs to be higher, I think it should be 21, young girls make so many bad decisions with older guys thinking it's normal but it's NOT. It's creepy and wrong, I think a ton of women can look back and have experienced an older guy wanting them or dating them when they were too young to understand that it's sick. Me being one of them and to this day it disgusts me and I just didn't realise at the time how sick it is. I'm talking a 31 year old lying about his age to me when I was 15. He looked young. He was not he told me he was 24. Even 24 with a 15 yr old is sick.

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FreeTheUnicorn
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Bad decisions don't all need to be illegal. This guy is a creep but what we need is education about healthy relationships not pretending everyone will abstain from sex until they are 21. Quite a few states do have a graduated statutory rape scale, so 16 and 18 is ok with consent, or 16 and 21, but not 25 and 16. But the real.solution is ensuring young people understand what a healthy relationship is and isn't and know how to advocate for themselves.

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The Starsong Princess
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The big elephant in the room is this guy assaulted girls before. Good for OP.

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Zedrapazia
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have my now finance since I was 16, he's 8 years older than me and was 24. We still have a great relationship, after all the years that passed. I say it depends, I can't judge over these people. HOWEVER, I am not American either, the age of consent in Switzerland is 16, so no crime was committed.

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Nemo
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You can judge about these people. I'm happy that it works out for you and your fiance. They say age is nothing but a number but this is not the first time he is going with girls way younger than him. There are at least two 16 year olds fighting over him. That is not true love. It's a pattern

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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Something no one is pointing out, OP could not ruin her brother's life over a kiss, which is all she can attest to, even if age of consent is 18. No evidence of intercourse. OP absolutely did the right thing as she might have saved not just the child, but also saved her brother from getting a record and/or being put on a predator list

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Tabitha
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh he’ll be investigated alright, and by detectives in the sex crimes unit, because there’s another underage girl he’s been with in the picture, as long as they’re in a state where 16 is below the age of consent. Plus, we don’t know the other girl’s exact age. She could be younger than 16. Bro has already been pushing his luck about getting caught, and OP absolutely did the right thing. Get him off the street, out of the schoolyard, and on law enforcement’s radar.

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Scott Rackley
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

7% in the poll say context matters. 7% of the people who took the poll are child molesters I guess.

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KillerKiwi
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

“This is NOT the first time he's been caught assaulting someone in his life” WTH?! She was DEFINITELY right for telling on him. Their relationship was inappropriate and I would also be afraid/worried for the girl especially knowing he’s done this type of s**t before.

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Andrew Arons
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She wasn't only right to report her brother, she was also OBLIGATED to. Failure to report a crime can be anywhere from a misdemeanor to a felony, depending on the severity of the crime. And the last time I checked, Statutory Rape is pretty severe.

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Max Fox
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sickest thing here isn't that she was only 16, but that he saw her grow up. I have difficulty thinking of anybody who I babysat as being grownup far into their late 20s and early 30s. The creep was dating somebody that he thought of a child, and it is clear to me that he was dating her because he thought of her as a child. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he had been dating her for a while already.

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Gen X Feral
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have 5 grandbabies that are my life. My 3 girls are 10, 12 and 13 and if some mudderflucking grown asss man even looked at them funny I would be in jail with a smile on my face and blood on my hands. Her parents are beyond disgusting and her brother is a sick freak, I hope he rots in jail.

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Kraneia The Dancing Dryad
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh. My "first" was a hefty age gap (11 years between us) but at least I was over 18.... Ick. OP's bro will be lucky if he doesn't end up on a list....

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D W
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You did the right thing and were brave to do so after your parents revealed their true natures. I understand it's a difficult situation with family now, but hold your head up high, you protected a vulnerable young girl from a predator.

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B.Nelson
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Using the classic "not creepy age range formula," a 25-year-old can date someone between 36 and 19.5 without seeming creepy. Formula: take your age, divide it by 2, and add 7 for the lowest non-creepy age to date. For the upper range: take your age, subtract 7, and multiple by 2. That is the higher range. I have no reference for this what so ever.

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Coralinea
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it's ok for a 50 year old to date between 32 and 86? Or a 60 year old from 37-106? Assuming there were enough around, that doesn't sound right.

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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot depends on what the age of consent is where they are. In the UK, it's 16, so this relationship is none of anyone's business but the couple involved. My cousin took up with a man twice her age when she was 16...she's coming up to 60, and they're still together, so it's not always a bad thing.

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Gale Christensen
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a female who was molested and SA'd by more than two dozen boys and men from the time I was 6 years old, thank you for caring enough to step in. I wish someone had been there for me. I was well groomed and completely in their power. I had no one. I can't imagine how my life might have been if someone noticed and stepped in for me.

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Shawna Burt
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh. Oh, no. Honey, no. Him kissing her IS a crime. And you should be reporting him to the police. I hope OP does the right thing and isn't hit with too much blow-back from family.

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Sean Martin
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sadly this happens a lot in the US south, in conservative Christian communities. Girls as young as 12 get pregnant with an adult. So the 12 year olds parents consent to marriage and it's perfectly legal.

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Jonathan Labelle
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she also say it wasnt the first times it happen so she did the good thing

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Jopie
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2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a 21 y o bf when I was 13. All my friends called him a pedo. He was just childish. He tried nothing. We exchanged a kiss on the cheek now and then. My mom called his mom to say I was too young and rather fed the ducks. She understood. He just wanted a gf because his brother got one (his own age) too. I met him in high school btw. I thought he was 16. A 14 y o girl who had dated him the year before warned me that I had to watch out, because he was so annoying, he gave flowers LOL.

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Tamra
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm afraid your friends were right. There is no good reason for a 21 year old man to be going after a 13 year old girl. Your mom should have smacked him upside the head with a frying pan.

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Craig Reynolds
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The laws in this country are messed up. You have to be a minimum of age 18, 21 in some places to buy alcohol and tobacco products and anyone caught selling them to you is charged with a crime, but an adult man can have sex with a child and get away with it!

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MidnightProphecy
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How on earth do you reply to comments on this thing?! Anyway thanks to Tabitha for the reply to my comment, and to Tristan - I wasn't 16 I'd just turned 15 and he was lying about his age saying he was 24 when he was in his thirties! Whole heartedly agree with Tabitha for saying what she said it's true. The same man also met me years later again when I was totally wasted and had s** with me even though I was too drunk to even be able to move as I'd drank thank much.

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Alan Williams
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dating miners is always a bad idea. They are always covered in coal dust for a start.

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deanna woods
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My parents got married when my mom was 16 and my dad was 23. However, my mother was very mature for her age and my dad wanted my mom to not only finish high school, but he wanted her to go to college. They are still married now some forty plus years later and he has never tried to control her or stop her from living her life.

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FluffyDreg
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad things worked out for your parents. But that's not exactly the norm.

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Bree
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Good for the dude and the happy 16yr old. I hope it works out. I stay out of gay peoples romantic lives. I stay out of your romantic life. Seems like the world of nutbags has to poke around behind closed doors for things that dont affect them. Hopefully her brother finds a way to sabotage a relationship she has

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Bree
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Crazy lady posting crazy story. 16 isnt a child, if it is i have news for

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