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Thread With 290k+ Reactions Explains Contrast Between Reactions To Male And Female Violence Against Each Other In Media
Thread With 290k+ Reactions Explains Contrast Between Reactions To Male And Female Violence Against Each Other In Media
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Thread With 290k+ Reactions Explains Contrast Between Reactions To Male And Female Violence Against Each Other In Media

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Sadly, double standards are more often than not a reality with many things in our society. Tumblr has been discussing one such standard, but one that not many would expect. And an important one nonetheless.

One Tumblr user shared their thoughts on the idea of how it’s not all that shocking for men to see males expressing acts of violence towards women in various media, but when the tables turn and women start being violent against men, it suddenly becomes absolutely horrifying.

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    Sadly, double standards are a thing, and here’s a more or less unconventional one that certainly needs to change

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    Tumblr has been discussing the issue of violence, specifically how different people react to men-against-women violence compared to when the roles are reversed

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    Tumblr user bau-liya pointed out one interesting thing: women are supposed to ‘grin and bear’ the various media showcasing abuse and violence against women and that being declared a ‘high art,’ yet when the roles reverse, it’s suddenly taboo and barbaric.

    This inspired another Tumblr user, jujubiest, to share their experience and thoughts on the matter, leading to a now-viral thread on the social media platform.

    This Tumblr user shared some of their insights and conclusions on the matter

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    Juju took a course in modern horror films and had to watch a lot of them. During some of these screenings, they noticed how other family members were cringing and being shocked by a particular context of violence: when women are overly aggressive towards men.

    They also provided other examples—one being how even the academics for the thesis were reluctant to discuss certain aspects that involved said violence and the various backlash by men on the topic.

    Image credits: jujubiest

    This led the Tumblr user to reach a conclusion that most men are fine and/or desensitized to male-on-female violence, but are intensely bothered by the opposite. Even the mere idea of it presented in the media is loathsome, let alone actually experiencing something like it.

    Now, violence of any kind should not be a thing in any society in the first place. But the thread does raise a good point—how many are actually desensitized to violence towards women, but as soon as it’s vice versa, it becomes “fresh” and hence shocks us more, despite it being the same violence.

    Image credits: jujubiest

    The thread managed to go (very much) viral, gaining a staggering 290,000+ notes on the media platform alone. This is besides all of the reshares on other social media and news sites.

    And as it turns out, the issue has been around for a while, as evident from a newspaper comic from 1993

    Image credits: jujubiest

    What are your thoughts on this? Feel free to discuss the issue in the comment section below!

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    Robertas Lisickis

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    Some time ago, Robertas used to spend his days watching how deep the imprint in his chair will become as he wrote for Bored Panda. Wrote about pretty much everything under and beyond the sun. Not anymore, though. He's now probably playing Gwent or hosting Dungeons and Dragons adventures for those with an inclination for chaos.

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    Edward Galore
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I loved this piece. It is a perfect example of male fragility. The idea that men are outraged by violent, empowered women on-screen, while finding media violence against women palatable infuriates me. The hypocrisy is so blatant. I witnessed a flame war on Reddit in response to a posted video where a woman admitted to being sexist against men. She was merely stating her opinion that she didn't like men "as a whole". Men responded by calling her a whore and with death threats. Disliking men as a group does not equate to advocating for violence against men, yet the men responded as if it did. Male fragility endangers women.

    Gin Marie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call it what it is: guilt. It's like cops who shoot innocent black people or those guys who claim all rape accusations are false. It's a confession. They're afraid of tables turning because they have skeletons in their closets. Also, ever notice that the guys who scream, "Women do it TOO!" are ONLY interested in women attacking men? Never women vs. women or male vs. male? Or how they'd rather bitch about how women owe them rather than ACTUALLY help men? We had a guy in my city found a shelter for battered men. Every ex wife and child of his had a restraining order against him. He had been violent---only toward women and children---his whole life. And now that I'm actually far off topic, batterers like to claim that they need shelter so they can find out where the shelters and their victims are.

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    elStiJneriNO
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    4 years ago (edited)

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    You could use your own "clever" reply here too "That's a lot of words to say you're the lousiest f**k in the world, and likely a Trumpie." I like this kind of intelligent humor of you

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    CatWoman312
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In teeth what set her off is how she was raped by a guy she trusted and then every guy she assaulted after that was trying to hurt her in some way. It’s not like she went out looking to assault men (except the poor doctor who was by all means an accident), she only assaulted the ones who hurt her. It’s a really good movie, but very graphic

    Ms.GB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That Dr. wasn't innocent...he was fondling her.

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    Troux
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't know this aspect of crippling, fragile masculinity existed in men, but it makes sense. Have seen this from a lot of male audience: any fight/argument that breaks out between men in a movie is "Aww yeah! That guy is bad ass!" but the exact same behavior from a woman vs man or woman vs woman gets "Yikes! Bitches be crazy!" Sigh...

    Edward Willis
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think what annoys me is that female-to-male violence seems to be more played for comedy. In the music video for Alexander Rybak's OAH, a woman hits a man who's asking for a date and it's all "hah hah is funny". But the entire video is about a man who's stalking a woman and that's treated as "hah hah is funny" as well, but (just about) falls short of actual violence. The flip side is his music video for Leave Me Alone, where a woman stalking a man ends up in a mental institution. I think the men in this article are (mostly) reacting to and calling out genuine and unfair double standards, but massively ignoring all the genuine and unfair double standards that advantage them. I think men as a whole need to learn that the best way to stop women "getting away with bad behaviour" is to deal with the way that men treat women first, and then they'll see just how much male-aimed unfair behaviour disappears.

    Wouldiwas Shookspeared
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah i agree. The anime trope of oh haha female character angry for no reason she punches all the dudes is also not ok. Both sides are true. This article focuses on the fragile dudes, but the making fun of (generally domestic) violence towards men is not cool.

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    Chenandoa
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think maybe the reason I like Kira Nerys (star trek ds9) so much is because it is rather unusually for ladies to be portrayed as strong...she frequently will beat up and knock out men taller than her, and in military uniform. I also like Jadzia Dax, probably because she fights better than many klingons...at their own techniques. It just unusual, and I like film/literature that deviates from the norm. I hate that most stories (when stripped down to a 3 sentence description) are identical

    danielw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you like Kira, you'll enjoy Babylon Five. both Susan Ivanova and Delenn are.... incredibly strong characters in their way. (my current favorite line comes from Delenn, saving the day. "If you value your lives, Be. Some. Where. Else." she's normally the calm, rational one. (also, just as a side note... Walter Koenig plays a seriously awesome bad guy.)

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    Nikki Owens
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure about the conclusions drawn from this; they seem to be the result of confirmation bias. What's overlooked in the analysis is that generally, male-on-female predation & violence are depicted in films as something villainous, while female-on-male predation & violence are depicted as something to celebrate & cheer on. That in itself is a double standard, & I think it probably has a lot to do with men's reactions.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I disagree. See: "Fatal Attraction"; "Basic Instinct"; etc. In those, female on male predation was depicted as villainous.

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    Pezor Zass
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i did read the article, and i'm sure it's right in many ways, but i have to say that i spent my childhood watching tv thinking "oh look, another 20 guys just got blown away and nobody seems to care, meanwhile the one evil woman gets bopped on the chin, collapses, and is put in handcuffs." I don't really trust my own recollections because i was brought up in a household with very set gender ideas, but i have this feeling that it's all a lot more complicated than most people seem to think. i don't even think our society is ready to have a full and honest discussion of these things and it makes me sad. i'll be long dead before people can just be people, i think.

    Gin Marie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know, there ARE books that could tell you that men get raised to be conceited, selfish, view women as prey toys, train in violence, and commit nine violent crimes for every ONE women do. You could notice that women are SMALLER than men, and that using "equal" force on unequal-sized people is not equal AT ALL? Also, TV IS NOT REAL. Also, those TV shows are being WRITTEN BY MEN.

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    Matt Du
    Community Member
    4 years ago

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    Yayaboobo
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg yes I would hate to have a love science with some dude 40 years older than me. Ew

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    Daniel Marsh
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    4 years ago (edited)

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    Never once in my entire life have I ever heard a guy complain about movies depicting woman-on-man violence with two exceptions: 1) smashing testicles as comedy and 2) noting that smashing someone over the head with a cast-iron frying pan (a once-common comedy trope) would probably cause permanent damage.

    N G
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The frying pan is an interesting one. In Tangled, for example, the frying pan is the weapon of choice ("I have got to get me one of these!") The hits to the head are played out as comic and very much in the style of it being a cartoon - almost Tom and Jerry like. The [spoiler for an 11-year-old movie] stabbing though is treated with utter seriousness. Though in a movie about magic hair, one probably shouldn't examine things too closely...

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    Edward Galore
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I loved this piece. It is a perfect example of male fragility. The idea that men are outraged by violent, empowered women on-screen, while finding media violence against women palatable infuriates me. The hypocrisy is so blatant. I witnessed a flame war on Reddit in response to a posted video where a woman admitted to being sexist against men. She was merely stating her opinion that she didn't like men "as a whole". Men responded by calling her a whore and with death threats. Disliking men as a group does not equate to advocating for violence against men, yet the men responded as if it did. Male fragility endangers women.

    Gin Marie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Call it what it is: guilt. It's like cops who shoot innocent black people or those guys who claim all rape accusations are false. It's a confession. They're afraid of tables turning because they have skeletons in their closets. Also, ever notice that the guys who scream, "Women do it TOO!" are ONLY interested in women attacking men? Never women vs. women or male vs. male? Or how they'd rather bitch about how women owe them rather than ACTUALLY help men? We had a guy in my city found a shelter for battered men. Every ex wife and child of his had a restraining order against him. He had been violent---only toward women and children---his whole life. And now that I'm actually far off topic, batterers like to claim that they need shelter so they can find out where the shelters and their victims are.

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    elStiJneriNO
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited)

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    You could use your own "clever" reply here too "That's a lot of words to say you're the lousiest f**k in the world, and likely a Trumpie." I like this kind of intelligent humor of you

    Load More Replies...
    CatWoman312
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In teeth what set her off is how she was raped by a guy she trusted and then every guy she assaulted after that was trying to hurt her in some way. It’s not like she went out looking to assault men (except the poor doctor who was by all means an accident), she only assaulted the ones who hurt her. It’s a really good movie, but very graphic

    Ms.GB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That Dr. wasn't innocent...he was fondling her.

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    Troux
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't know this aspect of crippling, fragile masculinity existed in men, but it makes sense. Have seen this from a lot of male audience: any fight/argument that breaks out between men in a movie is "Aww yeah! That guy is bad ass!" but the exact same behavior from a woman vs man or woman vs woman gets "Yikes! Bitches be crazy!" Sigh...

    Edward Willis
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think what annoys me is that female-to-male violence seems to be more played for comedy. In the music video for Alexander Rybak's OAH, a woman hits a man who's asking for a date and it's all "hah hah is funny". But the entire video is about a man who's stalking a woman and that's treated as "hah hah is funny" as well, but (just about) falls short of actual violence. The flip side is his music video for Leave Me Alone, where a woman stalking a man ends up in a mental institution. I think the men in this article are (mostly) reacting to and calling out genuine and unfair double standards, but massively ignoring all the genuine and unfair double standards that advantage them. I think men as a whole need to learn that the best way to stop women "getting away with bad behaviour" is to deal with the way that men treat women first, and then they'll see just how much male-aimed unfair behaviour disappears.

    Wouldiwas Shookspeared
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah i agree. The anime trope of oh haha female character angry for no reason she punches all the dudes is also not ok. Both sides are true. This article focuses on the fragile dudes, but the making fun of (generally domestic) violence towards men is not cool.

    Load More Replies...
    Chenandoa
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think maybe the reason I like Kira Nerys (star trek ds9) so much is because it is rather unusually for ladies to be portrayed as strong...she frequently will beat up and knock out men taller than her, and in military uniform. I also like Jadzia Dax, probably because she fights better than many klingons...at their own techniques. It just unusual, and I like film/literature that deviates from the norm. I hate that most stories (when stripped down to a 3 sentence description) are identical

    danielw
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you like Kira, you'll enjoy Babylon Five. both Susan Ivanova and Delenn are.... incredibly strong characters in their way. (my current favorite line comes from Delenn, saving the day. "If you value your lives, Be. Some. Where. Else." she's normally the calm, rational one. (also, just as a side note... Walter Koenig plays a seriously awesome bad guy.)

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    Nikki Owens
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure about the conclusions drawn from this; they seem to be the result of confirmation bias. What's overlooked in the analysis is that generally, male-on-female predation & violence are depicted in films as something villainous, while female-on-male predation & violence are depicted as something to celebrate & cheer on. That in itself is a double standard, & I think it probably has a lot to do with men's reactions.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I disagree. See: "Fatal Attraction"; "Basic Instinct"; etc. In those, female on male predation was depicted as villainous.

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    Pezor Zass
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i did read the article, and i'm sure it's right in many ways, but i have to say that i spent my childhood watching tv thinking "oh look, another 20 guys just got blown away and nobody seems to care, meanwhile the one evil woman gets bopped on the chin, collapses, and is put in handcuffs." I don't really trust my own recollections because i was brought up in a household with very set gender ideas, but i have this feeling that it's all a lot more complicated than most people seem to think. i don't even think our society is ready to have a full and honest discussion of these things and it makes me sad. i'll be long dead before people can just be people, i think.

    Gin Marie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know, there ARE books that could tell you that men get raised to be conceited, selfish, view women as prey toys, train in violence, and commit nine violent crimes for every ONE women do. You could notice that women are SMALLER than men, and that using "equal" force on unequal-sized people is not equal AT ALL? Also, TV IS NOT REAL. Also, those TV shows are being WRITTEN BY MEN.

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    Matt Du
    Community Member
    4 years ago

    This comment has been deleted.

    Yayaboobo
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg yes I would hate to have a love science with some dude 40 years older than me. Ew

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    Daniel Marsh
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited)

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    Never once in my entire life have I ever heard a guy complain about movies depicting woman-on-man violence with two exceptions: 1) smashing testicles as comedy and 2) noting that smashing someone over the head with a cast-iron frying pan (a once-common comedy trope) would probably cause permanent damage.

    N G
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The frying pan is an interesting one. In Tangled, for example, the frying pan is the weapon of choice ("I have got to get me one of these!") The hits to the head are played out as comic and very much in the style of it being a cartoon - almost Tom and Jerry like. The [spoiler for an 11-year-old movie] stabbing though is treated with utter seriousness. Though in a movie about magic hair, one probably shouldn't examine things too closely...

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