“I’m Waiting For Brad Pitt To Play MLK”: Outrage After Marvel Reveals New Black Panther Is White

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Chris Weeks, I have no idea who rattled your cage. What you say appears to have no connection with what I've been on about. I do know that there are no records of what happened in the Americas thousands of years before people arrived directly from Europe (centuries before Columbus) . So, you're just spouting made-up nonsense regarding that side of things. You seem to be ranting pointlessly. Of course I know us human beings are - well, as we are. I'm English. My known ancestry is diverse but - I repeat "known" - entirely north European. I learnt about 19th century European colonial history in school - that included Africa and India. And that means I learnt very specific details about how it wasn't just white people who could be complete and utter b@stards. You really should learn about someone before hurling abuse their way - if you don't, you'll just appear to be an ignorant fool.

And finally: the whole point about Black Panther is that it's underpinned by contemporary US racial politics. You could remake a Nigerian action film with a 100% white cast and it wouldn't be a problem (except the writer etc., of the original would want some royalties). That's because the average Nigerian action film isn't concerned with racial politics. You could say they're black films made in a black country for a black audience, except no-one's thinking about the "blackness" issue because being black in Nigeria is the default condition. Black Panther is different. Now, I'm perfectly fluent in crude language; I shan't use it here. But I do implore you to try to think, question, and learn - lest your next barrage of abuse once again marks you out as mindlessly ignorant. 😁

Ah yes, TotallyNOTAFox - we hear the same sort of thing here in the UK. Well, we hear it from the racist bigots in the right wing press. If you examine the lies, you find out it's all lies. I read the news - enough comes from Germany to know that what you say is nonsense. Immigrants pampered by politicians? No such thing anywhere in Europe. You mentioned "raping children didn't end in prison" - seriously? Go on, provide a link - you can't, can you? "Up to 10 knife attacks a day", you say (by whom and with what outcome, you don't)? In a country with the population of Germany, that's a trivial number. Here in the UK, we have about five a day killed by bad driving. "Everybody else ignored the situation [...]"? - whatever comes after that opening is obvious nonsense. I grew up with neo-N@zis all around (check out the National Front in the UK) - don't think I don't know what I'm on about.

Part 1: Oh yeah I can provide links, they're in german though - https://www.welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article256105352/Vergewaltigung-im-Hamburger-Stadtpark-Urteil-rechtskraeftig.html //// https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/video246750884/Afghanischer-Vergewaltiger-Diese-Strafe-ist-fast-schon-eine-Solidaritaetserklaerung.html //// https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/kriminalitaet/article252178370/Vergewaltigung-Frau-muss-wegen-Hasskommentar-in-Arrest-Verurteilter-bleibt-frei.html ---- Three examples how people with a foreign backround got probation sentences after raping minors, the last one is about how a women has to go to jail for insulting one of the rapists on WhatsApp though. I would also include a case were a prosecutor demanded a month long probation for a serial rapist but the judge gave him prison with the reasoning that just probation would be ridiculous

Machine translation does the job. First link: nine defendants prosecuted for r**e of a boy. Prison sentences "largely" (not sure what the original meaning was exactly - it's not clear how much prison time anyone's going to serve) suspended for probation. These are youth penalties which are sensibly less severe than would be given to adult offenders. It's not clear there's a problem. Second link: youth court sentence of probation given for unspecified s*x crimes. Again, this is intentionally a lesser sentence for young people. But yes, okay, found guilty and not given a prison sentence which does seem very odd. Mind you, every time something like that happens here and I've read about the details, it turns out the judge did exactly what they were supposed to do and the sentence was fully justified. But yes, okay - I see you were right.

Third link: it's the same case as documented in the first link. So, yes, what you say it true - still, two court cases in a nation the size of Germany isn't much. On the other hand, this third link does give a report of seemingly deranged sentencing - but the explanation is "An expert had told ZDF that in prison sentences after juvenile justice were the exception, because rehabilitation was in the foreground.".Still: "Eight of the nine convicted people for r**e of a 15-year-old do not have to go to prison, they were given suspended sentences. A young woman, on the other hand, was sentenced to recreational detention: she had cursed one of the men on WhatsApp." But the guilty men were from 16-20 years - old and one did get a prison sentence of two years and nine months. The machine translation seems to say that the criminals were drunk, which apparently counts as a mitigating factor in Germany (being voluntarily drunk when committing a crime is often treated as an aggravating factor here in the UK).

But basically: yes, I've read confirmation that "convicted of r**e and no prison sentence" is a thing in Germany as you said. On the other hand, these cases involve the youth justice system which is meant to give out prison sentences very rarely. If the rehabilitation process is effective, then it's a sensible approach. If... 😬

One last thing: not so long ago, Germany had an election. I saw reports about the AfD and its "remigration" policy - being advertised on huge advertising billboards. The last time a (far right hatemongering) UK political party seriously suggested "sending them back where they came from", it was the 1970s and they got nowhere (National Front - skinhead thugs). Any UK political party who put up posters proposing "remigration" like the AfD would find that all of its posters were defaced very quickly. We don't tolerate that sort of thing any more - most of us didn't tolerate it 50 years ago. The question is: why does Germany tolerate that sort of suggestion? Why now, in the 21st century - half a century after such proposals were roundly rejected here in the UK?

Part 2: I also grew up with the children of immigrants - from all sorts of places. You know what? Here in the UK, we're oh so much better for immigration. Almost everyone of my generation and younger knows it - I'm Gen X. Germany can also grow better from immigration. It's just that - well, you still have some problems with non-Germans, don't you? How come Germany didn't permit the children of all those Gastarbeiter from Turkey and so on to claim citizenship? Hmm? Look inside yourself. You know the answer.

Part 2: We in Germany have also a long tradition of immigration - Italians, Turks, Thai ,Vietnamese, Russians, Ukrainians, Zinti, Roma, Indians and apparearently lots of people from Venezuela as well. I grew up in a very diverse environment too, with values about the equality of women, not disrespecting anybody for being different (ethnicity, gender, sexual preference) and being open minded about other cultures. What people don't get is that critique isn't based on those things, it's based on the behaviour shown towards groups we were taught to respect from the 90`s onward. Or do you say that violence and genocidal ideologies are OK to have as long as it's not caucasians behind them? First and foremost people are sick of the violence ONE SPECIFIC demographic evidently causes. A minority within 6.8% of the population causes 22% of violent crimes average in this country according to official sources like our version of the FBI (And those statistcs are already cleaned up with a few tricks in how the data was gathered) - The point is that not all forms of immigration automatically are benefitial

Everyone outside east Africa is either an immigrant or a descendant of immigrants. Germany's got a long history of not really accepting non-Germans - we're getting over that sort of thing here in the UK. As for violent crime: Germany, just like the UK, has structural racism at every level. Immigrants and non-whites are policed more severely - more likely to be arrested, more likely to be prosecuted, and more likely to be convicted than the natives for identical behaviour. That's one issue. Another one is that structural racism means that minority groups are more disadvantaged than the natives - suffering from all the problems that brings, including poverty which naturally leads to higher crime rates. Don't blame that group until you've seen an in depth analysis which controls for all factors - you'd then most likely find that they were more law-abiding than native Germans living in the same circumstances.

Part 3: TotallyNOTAFox - it seems you failed to follow my advice on reading up on the experience of non-white people in your country. You seem to have just read up on what white people say about non-white people - that's the inverse of what I suggested. Learn!

Part 3: Yeah I know about a few things, but compare that to the situation society faces in return. Why do people have negative prejudices? Because there are more than enough reasons that confirm them on a daily base. Or is it strange that only one group appearently has mostly negative experiences with the locals here, citiziens with migration backround included? PS: Overall I would say that I'm a very liberal person with the values I hold high (Personal freedom for everybody as long as nobody gets hurt by it), the assumption that it must be nationalism, bigotry or racism for disliking the Islam as political ideology is a misconception - I dislike it and the actions of it's followers simply because they aren't that different from the mindest we had here in the 30's and 40`s and I`m all in for the progression we Europeans made since then regarding society

Your comment: "Why do people have negative prejudices? Because there are more than enough reasons that confirm them on a daily base." - seriously, that from a German? You know your history. I've watched documentaries (one from the 1980s, IIRC - relatively recently shown on the BBC) featuring interviews with Germans about their experiences in the 1930s - where they explained, calmly and matter-of-factly, about all the problems caused in Germany by - umm - those considered not proper Germans? You know who.... The "proper" Germans were explaining how their prejudices were based on fact. Then as now, such prejudices were and are not based on personal observation. As a general rule, immigrants are on average more law abiding than natives - it's hard to imagine Germany being an exception to that rule. You talk about Islam as a political ideology. In the world I live in, Islam is a religion. Its followers here are not as you describe - aside from an incredibly tiny minority who are despised by proper Muslims even more than by the rest of us.

Addition: Or attacking the cops with knives or cars.... And yes, the Islam is a political ideology, the term is "theocracy". It's a religion that aims to control every aspect of life, including the rights of women, homosexuals of all kind and other religions - which makes it political. And it's not a "minority" that are despised by proper Muslim, it's muslims with a progressive mind that need protection and are victims of violence.

Like you said, it's history - 80 years ago. Since then the world changed massivley. We shouldn't forget it, but constantly pointing at it and using it as justification for not acting to modern day situations is rather stupid. And what is the big difference to now and then? Nowadays it's evidentally a group of people that seem to cause a lot of trouble - it's not about saying "ooh we are superior", it's "oh s**t look at the daily violence". Reason for the AFD to be able to say that is that the problem became so big that rather extreme solutions are seen as viable by this point. And structual racism, really? The reason for poverty (Refugees get a flat, universal heathcare and 562 € per month) is that the people aren't fit for the jobs they are supposed to fill and only 1/3 activley use integration lessons. 70% of all prisoners have a migration backround and it's usuallly people with such backround that get shot - but of cause that has to be racism and nothing to do with breaking the law