People Wonder Why Rents And Security Deposits Are So High, So This Landlord Shares Some Pics
Remember, there are two sides to every story. Even in stories about landlords and tenants! I know, I know, it sounds like something straight out of an upside-down fairytale, but there are genuinely nice landlords out there (while some renters are more akin to evil stepmothers).
Case in point, Jerry Ciro Ucci uploaded photos as evidence as to why rent and security deposits can sometimes be sky-high. The pics are… shocking, to say the least and perfectly illustrate what absolute pigs some people can be. Scratch that, pigs are cleaner.
Jerry’s post went viral as some people saw the landlords’ and property managers’ side of things for the very first time. Scroll down and feast your eyes. You’ll cringe. You’ll wonder how these tenants could live like this. You might even gasp. Be sure to let us know if you’ve ever seen people trashing homes like this in the comments below, dear Readers.
A landlord shared photos of what one family did to his property
Image credits: Jerry Ciro Ucci
Image credits: Jerry Ciro Ucci
Image credits: Jerry Ciro Ucci
At the time of writing, Jerry’s post got over 25k likes on Facebook and was reshared 49k times. Some internet users even shared the story with law enforcement and suggested that the family be brought to justice.
Bigger Pockets has some simple but to-the-point advice for fresh-faced landlords. Even if you believe in the inherent goodness of mankind, you can’t deny that there are some rotten apples out there. Apples that could spread the rot to your property. So it’s important to screen out potential problem-causers.
Two things that you should look at are the tenants’ incomes and credit scores. A poor credit score is more closely linked to risky behavior than a high credit score. Of course, there are always exceptions. But you want to do business with individuals who pay their rent on time, not those who always make excuses.
“Couldn’t pay rent but could always afford butts”
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“The living room/trash bin”
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“Bathroom #1. Where all the rabbits were living”
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Puking off the balcony on to the downstairs businesses trash cans”
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Got trash?”
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“Soiled diapers lay where ever the kid was changed!”
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“Petrified mix of poop, right next to where they slept!”
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“Trail of trash continued”
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“Destroyed 100 year old floors with layers of urine and poop”
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“The shower, also a trash bin/litter box”
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“Sink that looks to be a great ashtray as well”
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“Hardened poop in the kitchen”
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“Mix of poop, food and who the hell knows what in kitchen drawers…”
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“Windowsill with some sort of jellied something?”
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“Freezer snacks!”
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“Not sure what we have here?”
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“Ahh yes the room the dog was locked in! The black spots are a mix of diarrhea, and urine!”
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“Rabbit toilet!”
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“Actual toilet”
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“More extremely dirty diapers”
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“Another poop filled diaper….. let’s just toss that under the sink! Out of sight out of mind rite?”
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“Tampons and more dirty diapers. Mmmmm”
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“I found one hiding filled with poop stuck behind a dresser…”
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“This folks is a broken drug pipe of some sort”
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“Bahhh just dump that soda on the wall. Don’t worry the property manager will clean that up in 6-7months”
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“Anything goes with playdoe apparently?”
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“Yummo. Hairy toothpaste balls! My fav”
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“Someone practicing their addition”
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“The flies are also our pets! The more the better!”
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“More up and coming artistry”
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“Is that poop on your hands, best thing to do is wipe it off on the trim!”
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Everyone should be given a chance to redeem themselves. After all, we all have the potential to make serious mistakes in life due to desperation or factors outside of our control. However, landlords also have the right to look through tenants’ criminal records and refuse to rent to them.
Also, keep in mind that just because a person has incredibly positive landlord references doesn’t make them a good tenant. They don’t reflect the whole truth and can be faked, so they should be taken with a pinch of salt. Did I say a pinch? I meant a cartload.
Landlords should also check whether potential tenants got back their previous security deposits. And why. Previous behavior is an indication of future behavior. Keep that in mind. Because you wouldn’t want to have the same thing that happened to Jerry happen to you now, would you?
Here’s what people thought when they saw Jerry’s photos
HOW can people live like that?? I may not be the tidiest person but seriously how can they not smell their disgusting mess. Just gross. I feel for the children and the animals, I hope they get some sort of help. They don't deserve to live in the filth their parent/s put up with.
I think addiction is so gripping that it takes away a person's ability to see the destruction they're causing-even in front of their own eyes. Ergo, they were living in filth but so ravaged by the disease of addiction that they couldn't function or live by societal standards due to the drugs' grip. What's so tragic is that the parents addiction had a tragic effect on helpless creatures (the kids and animals) and to me, that is what is more disturbing than the filth itself: the fact that those creatures will be forever damaged from this experience
Nope, it's not necessarily addition. My dad is a landlord and only rents to white-collar "professional types" who pass all the screenings. That system has delivered zero success. 90% of his renters (doctors, nurses, etc) live like pigs, skip out on rent, and leave behind a horror show. Piles of used condoms, dirty diapers, holes in the wall, backyards filled with so much garbage he has to hire a dumptruck and a crew with shovels. You name it, we've seen it.
I rented to a married couple. They lived there for two years. The living room carpet was a complete biohazard disaster. After they moved out I found a brand new vacuum cleaner in the kitchen closet. It had never even had a bag installed in it (inside was spotless) but it had clearly NEVER been used. They certainly could have cleaned once in a while, but they chose not to.
I have the opportunity and resources to buy and rent property but I know it is not in my soul to be in retail or the rental business. Judge Judy has one important function and that is to point out some people are not intended to be a landlord. I kiss the ground that I picked up that knowledge and I am so GLAD I never entered that venture. It is not in my nature to profit from anyone. If I can't give it away I will put it out on my busy street for someone to use or derive benefit from said item. This story and the images are worse than any nightmare in my life. What kills me is the suffering the children and pets endured. I need a fluffy kitten/bunny/doggo story now.please. Or back to the jug of eye bleach that should come with internet access.
Almost none of these people ARE NOT ADDICTS. They are NOT ON DRUGS. They choose to live this way. I've cleaned a lot of rentals. People are pigs.
Ellen, such a poignant way to see this. You can see beyond the physical damage and stigma; you're one of those rare gems whom actually possesses empathy. Bravo to you! You're a good woman, I don't care what they say! Lol!
I'm so fed up with excuses for drug addicts. The addiction is a disease???? it is the disease which you picked up, not the other way around. Nobody would jump out of window five-story high to make himself feel better, so why to take poison?
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say there was a lot of Meth going on in that apartment. What the landlord should have done is called child protective services.
Please do not insult pigs.
Mental illness maybe? I mean the smell alone would have to make you want to at least pick up dirty diapers!
Mental illness - no. These type of people live like that and destroy somebody else's property (and their own) because they can. So don't let them. On the other hand there are landlords who keep raising rent to decent, considerate, neat people and thus forcing them out. Those people who buy and rent property to get rich: tough love!!
I think they either don't know it any better or they just don't have the energy to do anything about it. Sadly, I know people like that.
Don't know any better? Even a toddler learns eventually that shit smells and tastes bad.
I just keep thinking about the sorry life those poor kids and pets must be living. That’s fine, I didn’t need to stop crying anyways...
Like you, i'm not tidy all the time but i am clean, being a bit messy and being dirty are two seperate things, this is just so nasty.
This article should be about the children who were raised in this mess. The landlord should have called social services asap.
Not to mention the fucking animals.. like, they just left them all behind and locked them in? The could've starve to death. It must've been beyond horrible.
When I was a property manager we had some idiot leave her cat alone. Her ex-boyfriend was still paying the rent due to the lease - the woman was a nasty, vindictive bwitch. The apartment was totally trashed with a pile of hairy smelly dishes left in the sink. The refrigerator looked like a science project. The poor cat cried all the time - bwitch only came once in a while to feed him. One day me and a friend of mine went into the place and came out with a "bag of stuff" - the cat. I left a window open to air to stink out, and the cat "escaped". He never made a peep while we walked back to the office. She took him and gave him the best home. Bwitch came back and said she "loved that cat, and it's my fault he escaped". Riiiight! This is just one example of the trash the owner leased to.
Those tenants were clearly some crackheads, and there should be a way to make them pay for the damage. HOWEVER, the vast majority of us renting face abusive conditions from our landlords. Like a 7-month deposit PLUS a bank certification (illegal in my country), or a 40% price raise without having made any refurbishment whatsoever
In Poland once media informed about the group on facebook, where landlords advising other landlords how to drag the money from tenants for fake damages, to reduce the deposit. It is a big problem in Poland, so tenants usually treat deposit as a money they will not get back.
Glad they brought attention to the landlords that were scheming together. Maybe it will at least help people who live in their properties, be able to take pics before they move and make preemptive preparations for when they move and protect others looking at properties for rent/lease, so they can avoid the scoundrels.
Let me translate this for you: One time Polish media reported on a facebook group for landlords.
What group? And what effect did the media have here (once media informed about...)?
A bank certification is illegal in your country but a 40% price raise without refurbishment is not?!
What is illegal is the bank certification PLUS the 6-7 month deposit. I didn't word it clearly, sorry. And yes, raising the rent limitless when the contract expires without ANY refurbishment is legal. Welcome to Spain 🙄
I agree that 6 month deposit and bank affidavit is abusive. However, raising the rent after a contract expires could be justified by the current market prices, inflation rate, utilities costs if included. I know some tenants (in France) who have been living in the same flat for 25+ years and pay a ridiculously low rent, so if the landlord ever has to make some repair works in the flat, it's half of the rent gone. Imo the landlord should be allowed to raise the rent in line with the inflation, to avoid massive hikes or flats being put up on AirBnb after such long-term tenancies.
No. This is the way they live. They trash a place, then move when they can't stand the stink. NO DRUGS INVOLVED.
There's a photo of a broken crack pipe...
Aunt Messy is right. I used to clean fancy homes and you would not believe how freaking disgusting human beings are. Plus my dad is a landlord and has to deal with this kind of filth everytime people move out.
There is a picture of a crack or meth pipe he found so obviously it involves lots of drugs because you cant just do a little bit.
That’s not the vast majority of people though. That’s just your situation, and probably not even representative of most of Spain.
Firstly, it's not MY situation, but something I've been asked for many times when looking for an apartment. Secondly, your statement about "probably not even representative of most of Spain" just shows how little you know about the housing market in this country.
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Why do people always assume that drug abuse? You think that sobriety automatically makes you a better person, or that people who suffer from addition are terrible people who don't care about anything else? It is not clear at all that this family had substance abuse issue. It is clear they have some sort of issues, but it doesn't automatically have to be drugs. People are more complex than sobriety = stability.
The photos of the wreckage include a broken crack pipe. There's no such thing as a casual crack user. This family did have substance abuse issues.
There's literally a crack pipe in one of the photos.
The meth pipe wasn't just a one time use thing. If you do drugs you are on drugs. It's an all consuming situation.
First..this looks like a single house, not multiple houses. Second, in the whole time you rented this place, you never once conducted an inspection just to make sure the appliances and hvac were being maintained. Apparently you didn't have enough need to protect your investment. As long as you give them 24 hour notice that you are entering the property, you have the right to inspect the place. And if they are making it a cesspool like this, you have the right to have the health department called to give you the ability to evict them. That's what our apartment complex does. I've had two neighbors get evicted. One for hoarding and the other for leaving piles of old cigarette butts on their balcony and letting their dog chew everything to bits.
Where I live a landlord is not allowed to inspect unless there is due cause such as non-payment of rent. (Even with 24 hours notice). Otherwise, you have to cross your fingers and hope for the best until the term of their lease is up.
@RitaGG There are areas where landlords are allowed to conduct inspections WITH notice. But even then, there are excuses for landlords to go into apartments, homes with 24 hour notice. Our complex does routine servicing of the HVAC Units and Water Heaters. They never did it before...but started after the neighbor above us moved out and the landlord was left taking 27 big black 33 gallon bags of trash out of the apartment. They couldn't rent it for a couple of months because all the carpet and appliances had to be replaced from her letting food rot everywhere and letting her dog use any corner of the apartment as a bathroom. The laws are tough for landlords..but there are always loopholes.
Just because they inspect doesn’t mean they have the legal right to throw people out. Eviction is a months long process, during which most tenants seek vengeance on the property. See how easy it is for you people to blame the victim?
Where I've lived, there are yearly inspections. This was a 6 month lease. It would be super annoying to have your landlord inspect more often than once a year.
Exactly! I have a hard time feeling sorry for the landlord when they didn't even bother to check up on their investment or the family and children living there, that's no brainer stuff.
FYI, it wasn't his responsibility to check on welfare of children he may not have even know about. In U.S. it's illegal to inquire about a number of "personal" issues such as marital/family status, etc. As for the "investment" part of it, you lose a number of ownership rights to property when renting it out. Speaking from experience. Tenant rights in the U.S. far outweigh ownership rights of landlord owners. You lease to an individual; after a few months they have a BF/GF/"friend" move in with them; after a few more months, the original tenant moves out, and the other party stays. They are not signed on a lease, but can't be removed without jumping the same legal hurdles set up to protect the rights of renters who signed leases and accepted attendant obligations (paying rent on time).
What makes you think they didn’t? You have a hard time feeling sorry because you’ve bought the narrative.
@Leodavinci You need to brush up on your landlord tenant laws. If a tenant lets a BF/GF/"friend" moves in, all the landlord has to do is call the cops and have the unwanted person removed before they establish residency, as in, before they start receiving mail or change their ID's to the address in question. And landlord tenant laws give the landlord the right to protect his property from damage by demanding periodic inspections with notice. Inspections can be done without notice if there is a safety hazard..which is clearly in this owners situation. All that's needed to trigger it is a call to the health department. It's not about the landlord keeping track of the kids..it's about protecting his property.
Suddenly, my home look super clean!, Thanks for make me feel better.
I'm watching Hoarders right now. Makes me want to clean my clean house!
Thats a bull shit excuse for jacking rent, Ive been renting since 97 and have always cleaned my places before moving and have always been screwed over on getting my deposit back. If someone leaves you place dirty you take it out of their deposit and than charge more through the court system to fix it.
So because you are clean then everyone else is? How can he take $15,000 out of a deposit? It’s no wonder many of you have been lifelong renters.
When I rented I did get my full deposit back but the landlord had scheduled inspections and if one of my neighbors or myself had been living like the above photos and had children they most certainly would have known and given that the landlord said they owed a bunch of back rent why couldn't you evict someone that's not paying?
My one and only concern is the kid(s) that were living here. Please provide all info and pics to authorities. The kid(s) need to be removed away from these adults immediately. It's clear that adults in here have a substance abuse problem and possibly some mental health. They will need help, if they want it. But the kiddos and animals do not to be or should ever be exposed to this level of abuse.
Not just the kids, the dog and rabbits as well!
I love all these reactions and comments. As a former building manager of 2 three story walk ups, I can say from years of experience that this happens more often than not. People have NO respect for themselves or their environment when they don't own it. It has nothing to do with alcohol or addiction, just people being disrespectful to themselves and property owners.
Sometimes it has to do with addiction. They found a meth pipe near children. This is more than being disrespectful and dirty. Maybe they were dirty people anyway, but since there is drug paraphernalia drugs are definitely part of their situation. The pipe wasn't there by accident.
He has more credibility than you though. You’ve never been in real estate. As property managers, landlords and agents, we are telling you it doesn’t matter if there are drugs or not. This is how most of you live.
I don't understand why? When I had my first apartment maybe I didn't own it but it was my home and I kept that shit immaculate!
FOR SURE more often than not. Especially and pretty much ONLY where rent is low. If your rent is low, your tenants will be SURE to punish you for it, big time. These people commenting don’t give a shit about anything but themselves and their spoon fed causes.
I really hope someone is following up on the abuse those poor animals are suffering, too. Absolutely horrendous
I'll never understand why drug users keep animals?! Like, yes you can get pregnant by accident which explains the babies but why animals? And why animals like bunnies?
Drug users are a minority in these situations. Far more "normal" people have animals (and kids) they cannot handle.
Dogs are a security measure
Bill this is true. In a town over from me recently someone was getting a squirrel high and crazy on meth and using it as an attack squirrel. True story. It happened in Athens, Alabama. He swears the squirrel was just crazy anyway. After he got out of jail he found it again after the animal control people had released it back into the woods. I think I read he got it back.
The smell of the animals covers up the smell of the drugs.
There are infants living with these people. Please someone call the authorities.
You are assuming they can be found. Even if they did call the cops, you assume the people could be found of they had skipped out of town.
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someone else's kid is not landlord's responsibility.
But if you see a child being abused mentally physically you should call cps. And kids sleeping in poop next to a drug pipe is abuse.
I have a two family rental and we let a woman with her kid rent the downstairs because she seemed like she was struggling and really needed it and seemed like all she wanted to do was provide a good home for her child. My husband felt bad for her and let her rent it. Well, she ended up moving her convict bf in without notifying us. She turned it into a meth house and ended up getting her child taken away by CPS. They'd get high, fight and trash the place. They ripped off French doors, put glitter nail polish all over the wood floors and destroyed so much more before we were able to get them out. It took a solid three months to get it back to being livable again. We're selling the place now and are officially sick of people, they suck. Oh, and the dumb b*tch even asked about getting her deposit back. Unbelievable.
Yep. Punished for having low rent. Just like every landlord. And then these people have the nerve to complain to us.
I feel for the children... 😢
I feel for the animals
It's not a competition, you can feel sorry for both. Neither opted to be in this situation.
I feel for the landlord. His property was thrashed.
I mean I'm not the best housekeeper by far, but as a human adult, how can you let yourself live in these conditions? And as an adult, that's supposed to be better than animals, how can you let animals and kids that depend on you, live in those conditions. I can't comment on walls, because I'm arguing with 2 of my kids why we can't draw or put random stuff on the walls (easily washable and paintable) But who wants to smell like piss and shit?
LAST time I come to Bored Panda while eating dinner.
OOF
This is absolutely repulsive. There's no excuse for this, even if you're completely drug addled.
I rented an apartment when I was going to school. 2nd year I didn't need to send much deposits like the first year. Why? I left the apartment spotless without a single speck of dust. Thanks to mom who thought us to clean up after ourself when we rented cabins or apartment during vacation.
The people who rented, and were supposed to be buying, our house when we moved out of state did almost $30K of damage. Not only was the house nasty, they knocked holes in the roof, stole the siding, and even took the shower heads! Our renter insurance paid a whopping $916.64.
Landlords have to protect themselves against such morons among their tenants. As a consequence, security deposits are high for everyone. However, there are still greedy landlords who use this as an excuse to demand unreasonably high deposits and sometimes they even try to cheat their tenants when the lease ends.
Yeah I'm going to assume most land lords have been screwed over before. So maybe they think they deserve more than they really do when it comes to all tenants, even the good ones.
I regularly deal with properties left in this condition or worse for landlords , I have shocking pictures and videos from houses I've taken on , some people are animals the way they live
Same! Thousands of pics of squalor.
OMG The poor kids who lived it that. The scum bags who felt it ok to bring children up in this should be charged and jailed for Child Abuse and Child Neglect. And they probably called themselves parents.
I'm a landlord and this disgusting behavior is all too common, I've experienced worse. A small deposit doesn't cover this kind of damage. I found holes in walls by fists fighting, cut with saws, human and animal feces, just about everything found at the dump. Sometimes its smells so bad it makes us sick without heavy duty air filter masks. I once got a bad lung infection from entering a mess like that after someone left a similar mess. Freaked of urine.
Same. People do weird shit with their poop.
Geez, how can people live in this filth!!
Some people are just pigs.
Oh.My.God.
We inherited a house that belonged to my husband's parents that we have not decided whether or not to sell yet as my son will be needing a house in a few years. Since it is sitting empty and we pay insurance, taxes, gas & electric and water every month plus go in regularly to clean it, people keep telling us to rent it. Stories like this are the reason we don't...
Yep. Just kicked out my tenant who I was renting to while I still lived on the property. He didn't bother to pay the last month of utilities and promptly left a nasty trail of trash (used bandaids, filth, wet clothes, gross food) behind for me to clean. And get this: Reaching out to his parents, they defended this kid, saying they were attorneys and knew better. Wow! Would not be shocked if he worked his way up to this level of nasty as he gets older, knowing mommy and daddy will always defend him.
Compare to my tenants this is nothing! My tenants left a full house and a full garage of garbage cost me $1700 to dump them. She and her adult daughter left every sink clogged, filled with filth, a dead mice rotten in the kitchen sink so rotten it's skin came off. SHE is a NURSE! I can hardly imagine some patients are being cared by her what would they feel if they saw how she lives......
These poor dog(s) and rabbit(s), what the hell... These people shouldn't be in charge of pets or kids ever again. They shouldn't be in charge of anything at all, actually. I have depression and I understand letting the mess accumulate to something that shouldn't exist but THIS is beyonsd ANYTHING I have ever seen. Some of these things I can't even comprehend, like the toothpaste? It's not just laziness, it's done on purpose. I just don't get why you'd smear toothpaste on the bathroom sink on purpose.
Preschoolers sometimes smear toothpaste accidentally when they are learning how to use the toothpaste. Normally you would clean it up after them though...
My Dad had rental houses, and I remember spending a couple weekends cleaning one up. The renters hadn't paid rent in ages, but my Dad had a lot of trouble removing them. Finally, they disappeared, and we went in to clean up. They never took out their garbage, just threw it into the garage. There were holes in the walls, and doors torn off hinges, broken screens, broken cabinets. They'd had dogs, and the dogs tore up the yard and the fences. There were feces all over the house and the garage, stains everywhere, and even with masks and all the windows open, we couldn't stay inside for long at a time. I think we threw our work clothes away when it was over because we couldn't get the smell out. The garage was full of syringes. Go figure.
I don't mind paying a deposit for this reason, but rental costs have gone up far too much. It needs to be capped.
No, you guys need better salaries. Don’t blame your landlords, blame your bosses.
It's sorry and sad to think that, as a landlord, you're not allowed to discuss or forward the true nature and the behaviors/ damages that a former tenant has made to your property, when giving a reference about these people (if it affects their ability to acquire a place to live) , and to think that it's a law protecting these horrible tenants and keeping their disgusting behaviors a secret is complete and total lunacy! It is everyone else who should be protected from people like them instead.
Prior landlords should be able to provide, not slander or bias, but all fact based info regarding the individuals that lived in the residence, and and had negative, damaging effects there. Such as documentation, police reports, photos, and video, should all be available to future landlords. So that only the offenders pay the price for their disgusting behaviors.
Who says you’re not allowed to discuss it? I’ve managed hundreds of rentals. We talked about this shit all the time. Call us for a referral? Oh boy are we telling what a fucking DISASTER of a tenant some people were.
It says, in the story, that some areas have laws preventing the sharing of information that would prevent people from being able to rent from the inquiring individuals. That would be why I think it's so heinous to protect the garbage ppl that do this stuff. A family, or actually 3 generations of family, living in the house across the street did this about 9 months ago and cost that landlord thousands of dollars and 7 months to repair his house where they trashed it. They moved in the cover of night, without notice, and he just found it that way. They were some of the most disgusting ppl I've ever seen for 4 months and idk how they rented the house??? He uses a individual service to check ppl out, rent the house for him, and do maintenance. Someone dropped the ball.
Animals are not this disgusting.
The children and the animals need to be pulled away from these people asap.
Good heavens. This is disgusting. Call Social services for the kids. Scrape off as much as you can (wear heavy gloves) and don't wet anything! I have to say, that rabbit urine has ruined everything it touched. The acid content ate through the shellac into the wood. Call the police, take photos and take them to court. Keep track of how many hours and the cleaning supplies used. Have receipts handy for new floors. You should be reimbursed for that, too.
We've had rentals for 12 years now. In that time I've had 2 of my tenants that were female, clean and well groomed leave, (after being evicted) only to discover after they left that they were absolute slobs! I've dealt with dead rats, stolen appliances, baseboards saturated and destroyed by dog urine, holes in walls, kicked in doors, leaking water that was never addressed that ruined an upstairs sub-flooring, carpet, adjoining walls up to waist height, bathroom cabinets and the garage ceiling below. Door trim chewed away buy dogs locked in rooms, yards full of cigarette butts, dog crap and trash, etc., etc.. I used to offer reasonable rent but it attracted low income people that seem to think the landlord is rich and they can behave that way. Now I charge top dollar and I seem to get good tenants. Go figure ....
Same. People expect you to get fucked over and they call you greedy while they do it. So gross. And young women are by far the most unsanitary tenants. By a long shot.
It's why I would never invest in rental properties (if I had the option!)
Apartment complexes and private landlords have different rights. When you are a landlord (apartment or otherwise), you cannot dictate a standard of conduct/hygiene to your tenants. That is the law. I cannot tell someone how they must keep house no more than I can tell someone what religion they may practice while they are renting my home. What I can do is run a thorough background check, including credit score, ask for references from past landlords, insist on a rental bond and renters insurance, and write certain stipulations into my contract. For instance, if you are to rent one of my homes, there will be no cats (don't jump on me cat people. I love cats, but I won't have them in my properties), no dog over 25 pounds, you will not smoke indoors or within 15 feet of an entrance to the home. If you can't meet those standards, keep looking elsewhere.
Agreed and I am a cat lover. Although I’d rather have cats than kids in my properties.
Yep, unfortunately had a tenant like that.
This is why I absolutely refuse to be a landlord. I just keep my money in the bank and not invest in rental properties. People are dirty and nasty because it's not their own house.
Alternatively, AirBnB is a good way to make money off investment properties without having it trashed like this.
If you are thinking about renting out your property to make some extra money, don't. Even if you hire a realtor. The realtors will do nothing.
Obviously. A realtor has nothing to do with maintaining the property. And if you think they do, that’s why you’re not a landlord. You don’t get how it works.
No, they'll do something. They'll take a finders-fee of one months rent that you'll never get back.
Please tell me he called social services.
How do they live like that!? it horrible. AND THEY HAD A BABY!
Landlord here - do you vet your tenants? Seriously, asking for referrals, doing a credit check or people search are all easy ways to avoid getting crappy tenants - or how about no smoking and no pets... If you just take money from the first person who comes along and don't bother to actually monitor your rental than you're not being a responsible property owner hence your getting irresponsible tenants - shocker.
Wow, a bit sanctimonious aren't we? Even vetting a person does not provide guarantees. I did. Went through a rental agency even. And still got left high and dry.
I am with you 1000% Wren. I own rental property and it can be a nightmare.
That had to have been an absentee landlord who provided no property management whatsoever over the course of those 6 months. Little problems were ignored until they turned into big problems which were then also ignored until they turned into a financial crisis. I have no sympathy.
No, they hadn’t. You have no sympathy because you’re not smart enough to understand how long the process is and you were mad at landlords before you bothered to find out.
They probably just charged lower rent and accepted a lower income tenant. The vetting is what these people are complaining about. “The rent is too high, the application is too intense, the deposit is too high, etc.” I actually tend to agree with the tenants that it’s too hard to qualify and pay rent but that’s because their jobs are ripping them off, not their landlords.
Well this is, of course, disgusting and scary, they have children? Still doesn't mean that everyone else has to suffer for it. It's funny this comes out a few weeks after it was widely reported that landlords make a lot of crap up to keep your deposit, no matter how good a condition you leave the apartment in. Should we assume that every landlord is a POS? How about doing a better job of evaluating the tenants, next time. The checks he did were obviously crap. Andalso,take some risks, the tenants take risks too, they risk having assholes as landlords and neighbors. Just because a fraction of tenants are filthy, you cannot terrorize all tenants with untenable costs and irrational regulation. Just because some car owners drives like a crazy guy, you wouldn't want to increase all car insurance policies by 700%. Just because one girl betrayed you, you wouldn't just give up on relationships. Seems it's once again an exclusive USA-problem, where the consumer has no rights.
How about forcing a shitty tenant to face full, immediate consequences for destroying landlord's property? Like being evicted and forced to pay 100% of damages?
Do you know how hard it is to evict someone? It takes months, and once those proceedings begin, you know the tenant is going to start actively destroying things.
Do you honestly think those tennants have anything to sue for?
You can't get blood out of a turnip
ok they have to ve substance abusers cause normal people do not live like that.
Yes many do.
Tamara....yes, in this case, they did do drugs. But there are MANY cases where people just live like these, because they're Hoarders. Hoarding is a mental illness that does affect some people and cause them to hoard just about anything...trash, feces, paper, junk cars, boxes, etc...things that have no value or purpose.
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Once again with the assumption of substance abuse. Believe it or not, sobriety isn't a cure-all. People can behave badly or have mental health issues without ever taking drugs. I am pretty sick of this conception that all 'bad' people engage in substance abuse. People with addition issues can be great people that otherwise lead productive lives with the burden of a mental health disorder of addition. This myopic mindset of demonizing all bad behavior as an issue of substance abuse is what causes so many to see addicts as criminals rather than people in need of medical treatment for their mental health.
There is a crack pipe in one of the photos, but I agree with you that mental illness can cause people to live like this as well. I actually had a family member that suffered from depression and after he passed away we discovered the condition he had been living in...it was absolutely heartbreaking.
But there was a meth pipe found...
I don't even know what to say.
Can´t unsee that.
EEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW How do you LIVE like that!?
I thought my room was bad... I really cannot believe that people live that disgustingly! The worse thing is. Even if the kids get taken away and put into a better family. They will still learn from their parents and always have a little bit of that horror in them! this is awful
For every one tenant that's this extreme there are 1,000 people paying $500+ a month to live with four other people in shabby, one bathroom apartments with mold, insulation, and decay problems. There are literally Facebook groups created by landlords for landlords to try and find loopholes to keep security deposits that have been exposed. What the hell is the deal with this article, BP? Who do you think it is that's contributing to and clicking on your site?
My husband and I are landlords. I've seen this and worse. We had some young tenants put a ladder up to the roof to use the roof as a "party platform". They took the shelves out of the refrigerator to use as a grill. We evicted them, which takes weeks. The weeks you have to wait, going thru the red tap of eviction, just gives them more time to destroy things. Trying to go after them for back rent, damages, etc. cost more money and they have nothing to give/take. The few tenants we have followed thru with (and got a judgment against them) filed Bankruptcy - so we spent more money to get nothing else. I can certainly relate to what you're going thru. I don't rent to students. The tenants we evict NEVER give us a forwarding address - so it makes it hard to report them for child/animal abuse.
If a family never was raised to be clean, they certainly won't teach thier kids to be. Viscous circle. I rented a room in a house in MO, one roommate had cigarette butts & burns & melted candle wax all over the carpet. His car was a literal garbage dump on wheels. I'm also a housekeeper & have seen some nasty stuff. People just take important stuff when they move out& leave garbage everywhere.
It's harder than you think to get tenants out. I've rented for almost all my life and currently I'm in a situation with an upstairs neighbor who is a selfish bitch. She has clearly NEVER lived in an apartment setting before. She plays loud booming death metal with a deafening bass at 2-3 in the morning and I have been calling the police, the security and the management on her for 9 months!! They can't evict her! The law is on her side. They can't even opt to not renew her lease in June....they HAVE to renew it. Again, the law is on her side . The only thing I can hope for is to make her life so annoyingly uncomfortable that she decides to not renew.
Take the kids away from these hog pen people. Outright disgusting !!!
After the downstairs neighbors moved out (who we always thought were really nice & friendly) the property manager came knocking on my door. I'm a neat freak and she loved me for it (after 9 years I got %100 of my damage deposit back, she said it was cleaner than when I moved in). She says " You have got to come see this". I could not believe my eyes. The new carpet was absolutely black, there were holes punched in the walls, you couldn't discern the color or pattern of the kitchen floor, grease and God knows what was running down the counters and cupboards, there were cockroaches & flies EVERYWHERE (which totally freaked me out, but she assured me the exterminators were on the way). All of the appliances were so disgustingly bad they decided to just replace them. The sinks, bathtub and both toilets also had to be replaced. I have never seen such filth.
I rented my basement suite once. To a very nice young man who worked full time. I said no smoking, no pets. He drank, cranked the music, had kittens, friends etc.....never ever again
Should've showed the renters faces and names.
Those people are mentally ill!
i hope they called CPS
I was gagging looking at this article and not much bothers me but this, this is beyond comprehension, where did they sleep? I don't even like my hands to be dirty I cant imagine the level of filth. Please for the love of god call child protective services, show these pics, arrest the parents for endangerment, holy hell and I thought Owning a rental might be a good idea for me....ugh....not after this, I'd have to write a very specific contract.
Its also a pattern of behavior. My building recently has rented to a couple of families. they pay rent, deposit and then nothing for 3-4 months. They move before they are evicted...usually month 5-6. Getting 3 or 4 months free rent, to start all over again. The Apts have all been trashed, very similar to the photos above. I just don't get it. People are pigs.
TBH before seeing this, I lacked the imagination to do this on purpose if I wanted. I guess you learn something new every day.
My parents rented out a house to someone who said they had one cat. After the guy moved out they learned he had four cats, one ferret ( dead) and ZERO litter boxes. The smell never came out out of the wooden floors and that was after the carpets were thrown out. This guy managed a fast food restaurant 🤢 We also had a cousin who’s entire house looked like these pics. Her husband kept three puppies in the bathroom for months and she never cleaned it up after he moved out with the dogs. I had wanted to buy the house from her as she was losing it to the bank but when I saw the condition I didn’t offer.
People like that should be exterminated... no questions asked...
I hope they were reported to CPS and the suitable animal cruelty hotlines.
One of my aunts was a landlord, and there were several times where she damn near had to remodel the place after a tenant moved out.
Dis cos tan
I also wonder if this is what my neighbor’s house looks like inside. He’s a chain smoker, constant beer drinker, who sits around watching TV all day long. His yards have litter in them (cigarette debris mostly, but his car port out back is full of various types of trash, food, waste, etc, and it’s spreading all over the alleyway). His cigarette stench oozes into my house (rowhouses SUCK), and stench pours out of his windows at all hours.
Yeah let's not forget that landlords still treat tenants like crap. I'm facing eviction myself just because I wouldn't pay up for the cost of a fumigation my housemate got after she saw A spider in her room. I said I didn't have to pay anything because I didn't want it, nor did I order it and because of that the bitch that owns this place is kicking me out. With nowhere to go mind you. She never performed inspections, or got rid of the black mould in the kitchen and I just bet she will try and keep my security deposit just because she thinks she can..
Those children. ..all I can think of...
We have so far left 2 houses where we lived on rent and in both cases, although we kept them spotless we made sure to hire cleaning companies and return both houses to their respective owners spotless. However, most humans are filthy.
We rented once house in Thailand for Thai people. Was looking quite similar to this when they moved out. My wife cried when she saw the pictures. However you can't judge all people and put very high rent. I'm currently living in Ireland and I can't afford to rent 1 bed apartment because prices are very high.
I am so grateful that my parents were strict on two accounts. 1 clean up after yourself your mother's not your maid and 2 pay as you go. If you can't pay don't go. I was given a lot of pocket money as a kid but I had to earn at least 2/3 of it. This taught me to work for my obey and save if I wanted anything. Also I was taught the importance of keeping a clean and tidy house. These lessons stood me well for when I was renting anywhere. I always kept the place spotless and I always payed my rent on time. Because of that I have never had any landlord issues.
I think CPS and the local humane society or ASPCA should be called. I empathize with the destroyed apartment but the children and animals are the ones that really need help.