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Woman Is Baffled By SIL’s Anger Over Her Lack Of Kid-Friendly Condiments In Her House
Woman Is Baffled By SIL’s Anger Over Her Lack Of Kid-Friendly Condiments In Her House
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Woman Is Baffled By SIL’s Anger Over Her Lack Of Kid-Friendly Condiments In Her House

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Hosting family and friends is a wonderful experience because it can help people bond and enjoy new things together. Even though it’s fun, the work of a host is sometimes tough because they have to create a cozy and inviting atmosphere for their guests.

This is what one woman used to do for her in-laws whenever they visited her house. Even though she went through a lot of effort to cook for them, her sister-in-law kept complaining because her kids always wanted specific seasonings that the woman didn’t have on hand. 

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    The poster shared that when her in-laws and their kids used to visit once in a while, she’d cook and have to entertain them pretty much the entire day

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    One day, one of the in-law’s kids had a meltdown because there was no ketchup or salad dressing, so the woman tried putting together Greek yogurt dip, but it wasn’t satisfactory

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    The poster suggested her in-laws carry around condiment packets for themselves, but her sister-in-law got angry and said that she was rude and conceited

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    The sister-in-law also put the woman down for spending money on hair and makeup instead of buying condiments for guests, but the poster was not perturbed

    It seems that right from the start, the woman had gone out of the way to make her in-laws feel comfortable in her home. She cooked for them and did her best to provide entertainment. Even when the young kids threw a tantrum about condiments the first time, she tried whipping up a Greek yogurt dip for them. It was only her sister-in-law who seemed to find an issue with her.

    To get an insight into this situation, Bored Panda reached out to Christine Schaub. She is a best-selling author and host of the web series, ‘Come On Over,’ a show about reinvigorating the art of hospitality with an emphasis on gardening, home decor, and no-fail recipes. Her #1 Amazon bestselling book is called, ‘Queen of the Side Hustle: Unleashing Your Potential for Extra Income.’

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    Christine told us: “The old trope, ‘No good deed goes unpunished,’ has made its way into the act of hospitality. Hosting is an art form, for sure, and hosting full meals for six or more is a gift. The first time hosting a meal for family or friends, I ask the expected question: ‘Are you allergic to or repulsed by any particular food?’ If they are, I either omit that item or offer it on the side.” 

    “If it’s a broad category (dairy, gluten, seafood, specific veggies), I make a note and search for recipe options to meet that category. But I do not ever spend a single moment thinking about condiments. And any guest who pitches a fit about condiments will probably not be invited back. I’d never dream of pitching an outright fit at anyone’s table about any food item, ever,” she added.

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    The poster tried her best to find a middle ground for her in-laws. She suggested that they carry around condiment packets that they could easily use on food in case they needed to. Unfortunately the sister-in-law couldn’t get on board with the idea and called the OP out for being “unwelcoming.”

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    Christine told us: “If I’m hosting regular guests, particularly picky children who have extremely specific dietary likes, I will say to the parents, ‘Please bring with you anything specific your child might require for this meal.’ I will be accommodating to the level of my existing options.”

    “Truth bomb here: Any child, parent, or guest who pitches a fit at my beautifully dressed, thoughtfully arranged, and abundant table over a condiment or expected side is welcome to visit a drive-through on their way home,” she stated.

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    The poster later received a long and rude message from her sister-in-law. The other woman was complaining about how much the OP spent on hair and makeup instead of caring enough to provide condiments for her nephews. The poster was also called out for being “narcissistic and conceited,” even though the in-laws had always enjoyed her hospitality.

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    Christine Schaub said : “I do not tolerate unthankful, disrespectful, picky, demanding company. Why? Because I’ve opened up my home. I’ve shopped, cleaned, prepped, and given serious thought to the menu, presentation, and atmosphere. I’ve only required my guests’ presence and conversation. And that’s never too much to ask.”

    She also added that “I learned from experienced hostesses to have a variety of items, almost a buffet, available for guests. When serving pasta, I include generous slices of a hearty bread, creamy butter, a salad, and sometimes a fruit.”

    “When serving a meat main, I try to include two vegetable sides, potato and green/orange veg, as well as bread, butter, applesauce or jam. I like to see guests enjoying my hard work. I like to be appreciated for my thoughtfulness,” she added.

    After receiving such rude messages from her sister-in-law, the OP decided not to tolerate the other woman’s fussiness anymore. She decided to make the least effort possible and let her husband take over the cooking process in the future. Luckily, she realized that she was working too hard to please someone who didn’t appreciate her actions.

    What would you have done if you were hosting someone who turned out to be so entitled?

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    Folks sided with the woman and felt like her sister-in-law was probably jealous of her, which is why she was kicking up such a fuss

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    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That rogue YTA is a little unhinged. Also, stop inviting these people.

    Papa
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you mean the one who said it took more energy to post about it on the internet than it would have to buy a bottle of ketchup? If yes, while I wouldn't go so far as to say she's an AH, he did have a point.

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    Stacy Bender
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SIL sounds like a toddler. As for the food, it sounds like our house. Healthy stuff.

    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like the OP eats a bit healthier than the SIL and the SIL feels judged. I think ordering a pizza or some other delivery while everyone is there to agree on it sounds like a great plan. Its worth giving it a go if the cousins all get along so they can play together.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure about ordering pizza whenever they come over because the occasional visit might become a regular visit.

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    Inglourioustmnt
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That one yta person is a ridiculous loser. I dont use ketchup therefore i do not have it. Deal with it or gtfo

    BoredLittleLeafSheep
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd tell SIL to f**k off. Where I spend my money is none of her business and if she doesn't like my food, she can either bring her own food for her crotch goblins or she can stay home.

    OzymandiasTheManokit They/Them
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FOR REAL THO. SIL acknowledged that there were * no condiments * the first time, and threw a fit the second time. it's OP's house, fridge, and pantry; SIL can bring her own damn condiments.

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    Earonn -
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *sigh* and here am I, brought up to be a grateful guest and accept that other people eat different dishes, or prepare them differently. To try everything and be polite about it if I really don't like it.

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I checked the list of narcissistic traits. Not having ketchup isn't listed in the DSM-5. Maybe the SIL used a very old edition for the Manual? The one that lists the Vapours and Hysteria?

    painttheyellowsubgreen
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The irony of the narcissist SIL claiming OP is a narcissist because she doesn't have a fridge full of things the SIL wants.

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    Janelle Collard
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd refuse to make *any* more meals for the in-laws. Then when SIL complains, I'd give her 20 bucks to take the kids to McD's.

    Natalia
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd give a rude, demanding arsehole money?

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    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not buying condiments or anything else I don't eat on the off chance someone might visit me and need them before they go bad, and I have to throw them away. The SIL is upset about something else.

    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't go to someone's house and complain about the free food they serve you. You shut up and eat what you can and then say thank you. And if your kid is going to have a meltdown over ketchup you should bring your own. Or teach your child not to be a spoiled a*****e.

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dunno, I'm on the fence. When we have friends over I always have variety of extra food so everyone can have something they like. I'll include gluten free food and things I know their kids like. I don't really get why she'd refuse to get anything she doesn't usually eat, that's not how entertaining usually works. On the other hand she can't be expected to have absolutely everything they could possibly want. I'm wondering if there's a cultural difference here causing issues.

    roddy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like no matter what meal she makes, it's not how SIL would do it at home, so therefore wrong. Which is ironic, because SIL obviously has no idea how to cook. She seems to live on the simplest of toddler fast food. Just give her jars of peanut butter and jam and let her go to it, it seems about her level. Assuming she doesn't slop mayo on that also.

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    tori Ohno
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you've never tried plain Greek yogurt instead of sour cream, I dare you to try it. Just once. It's delicious, lower in calories and fat, and has protein. The flavor is almost identical as well.

    CalamityOne
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, but A) greek yogurt is an awesome substitute for sour cream, and B) if these kids can't live without certain condiments, then the parents should be buying travel-sized containers of them to take when visiting!

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Give her an etiquette book for Christmas with the part about not complaining about the food when you are a guest highlighted.

    BookFanatic
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're gonna let me come over, and feed me...I'll eat whatever you put in front of me. However. On the rare times I'm hosting friends with kiddos I'll usually ask if there's something special they like to eat. Also, I always have ketchup and ranch dressing and Kraft Singles.

    White Sauce Hot Sauce
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SiL probably meant Tex-Mex tacos, with a hard shell corn tortilla, ground beef, shredded cheddar cheese, iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, dollop of sour cream. She's also a spoiled brat and raising her kids to be just like that.

    roddy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! I'm sure they wouldn't recognize a real taco if it jumped up and bit them. Just that boxed c*p from the supermarket. They need to develop some tastebuds. The kids are doomed, if this is their idea of cooking.

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    Boo
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the sister in law is sooooo bugged out by the OP not having the right condiments, maybe the SIL should bring that stuff to OP's and cut the cràp since she knows the OP doesn't stock her kitchen with it....just a thought.

    Xenia Harley
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being first generation American, a lot of Americans just cannot handle anything outside of their comfort zone of American food. This woman (SIL) sounds like she is trying to put OP down, by the comments and wanting condiments for everything. Maybe the SIL needs to bring her own for her children! I used to get a lot of flack about the "weird" food I ate with my family. It just wasn't Spaghetti-os! SIL needs to appreciate the OP's cultural background, seems like!

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Block her and make your husband deal with them - problem solved.

    Justme
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m never offended if someone doesn’t have what I’m accustomed to at their house. I either adapt or bring my own. If I were hosting this SIL we’d just be dining out from now on.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the SIL wasn't such an a*****e about it, I'd just ask OP is it's really an issue just to have more mundane condiments on hand for the kids when they visit? But also why can't the SIL just bring (or buy and store at OP's house) the condiments?

    Dave Morris
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do you even let these people come to your house? They are entitled and freeloading. Just because you are related to them doesn't mean you have to deal with their s**t.

    Roxie Carter
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would be waaaay more missed about the comments about prioritizing my looks. SIL crossed a line.

    MidnightProphecy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA but if someone rubbed my bread with a tomato and then be confused why I’m a bit oh about it I’d be like wha?! lol

    Tonyah Mcanelly
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA I was always taught to respect your host. I have taught my kids the same. These people are gracious enough to open their home to you. the SIL needs to show gratitude and humility. If we went to some ones home we would eat what they served. My kids were not allowed to say " I dont like that" if they didnt like something they were to say. I really dont care for that thank you . But they were never allowed to say they didnt like something unless they at least had a bite and tried it. This actually opened up their pallets to new things how many 5 year olds do you know who loves sushi?

    roddy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do they serve nothing but kid-friendly or chain-store fast food at their home when you visit? Or don't they reciprocate? SIL sounds ridiculous. Guests should eat what they are given and be thankful, not nitpick because you don't have their favorite nibbles in stock. Choosing beggars.

    Korok
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like they cook lovely food but personally i need ketchup for my homemade chips and brown sauce for my bacon sarnie 😉

    Ace
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well yes, me too (we're talking about proper chips using the British meaning here, not crisps). What I don't understand is why, if you don't like somebody's cooking, would you continue going round to eat there? The taco thing is weird, but I guess you have to be American to understand it.

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    Terry Fergusson
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the kids require special condiments to eat then the mother should be carrying packets in her purse, just in case? She obviously doesn't love her kids! /s

    ADDchallengedINFP-T
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA, who said that? We don't drink, we have no beer or liquor, We don't use ketchup, so we don't buy it. Person who said YTA, can go and buy the stuff for Op. When SIL and kids visit, bring your own condiments.. Don't tell me what to have in my home. Shame on you YTAs

    ANGEL M
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not going to buy stuff for my house that I will not use when "guests" are not visiting. I have an digestive intolerance to malt vinegar so in my house you are not getting vinegar for chips here. I can't eat wheat so don't have cereal a lot and as a result don't buy milk that often and as a result you cone to my house no milk for tea or coffee. My family if visiting knows this and will bring their own

    Nicole Weymann
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How dare you have us over and not feed us junk food!" If your kids (and you) are not able to eat without ketchup and/or mayo you better see to it that you have some on you. It may sound weird to some people, but not everybody eats the same way, and what's "absolutely basic" to some (in my household that would include milk, but not sodas, and ketchup, but not hot sauce or mayo) may be a "we don't eat it, so we don't have it" to others. But since the effort, time, and love involved in preparing meals is obviously lost on SIL I'd advise vot delivered pizza, too.

    Woodsie
    Community Member
    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Souns like the SIL is jealous but do think it wouldn't kill op to buy a bottle of tomato sauce and mayonnaise to keep in the fridge. When you have guests you need to cater to their needs somewhat, the same as you would cater for someone who is coeliac or vegetarian. OP seems to have a bit of a snobby attitude to food, it's what she likes and guests can like it or lump it. Appreciate that ops food is healthier and would be what I prefer also however these are guests in her home. Agree with others next time order takeaway with everyone's input.

    Betsy S
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people are NOT "guests". They're just family members who pop by. It's not a dinner party where you go out and shop for food for that meal and then of course, make sure everyone has what they like. This is just their average grocery supplies and if they don't eat ketchup, they shouldn't buy it. It goes bad surprisingly quickly and then there's yet another plastic bottle clogging up the landfill after wasting their money on a food item that doesn't get eaten.

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    E M
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like SIL is jealous of OP's childfree lifestyle and has a laughably limited palette she is unfortunately inflicting on her kids too.

    Jack Butler
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hard ESH. SiL sounds like an awful, basic b***h and OP sounds like a Portland level pretentious wank stain

    Michael Fernandez
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol I just threw away half of a 12-pack of beer I bought for a friend’s visit two years ago.

    Meagan Glaser
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    nobody in teh comments mentioned that "normal" and "kid friendly" are REALLY subjective and cultural? Sounds like OP makes authentic tacos, and SIL was expecting Tex Mex style. SIL thinks it's basic courtesy because she thinks it's a part of equipping a household to have ketchup and mayo, but those things are NOT basic in OOP's culture. It's kind of like an American going to a traditional Japanese Inn and complainging it's "rude" to make people kneel on teh floor and not have chairs

    Tib Laughlin
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess I am weird. First, these are not random visits. They are planned. Second the cost of a bottle of ketchup is trivial, so the "I am not wasting my money" point is pointless. I love to host people. Travellers. Locals for dinner parties. Friends. Family. When I plan for guests those plans include prepping for the guests pleasure. Like learning what they drink. Learning what they can't/won't eat. If my nibblings are coming I ask my sibs what their kids eat and drink and I stock those things. Because I am thoughtful. I love seafood. But moved to the Midwest. Many of my guest won't touch fish with out "cat" in it's name or a tin in its history. So I don't do a seafood feast of my beloved Shrimp Newburg without specifically asking first. Now, I have to go by Gogurt I will never eat because I have company coming.

    Southie
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    don't buy the condiments. And have your tacos however you want. Tell them next time, this is what you are serving. Like it or leave it. Or tell them to bring something they will eat. Better yet. Don't invite them. They sound awful. The ones that are calling you the AH, are probably picky chicken nugget eaters LOL

    VNES101
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SIL just thinks she's bougie and "high class" and takes every opportunity to try to push her down.

    roddy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, I suspect she finds gourmet cooking pretentious. She clearly resents that OP has a nice wardrobe. Maybe she's just really insecure and this is how she pushes back by pretending that nothing is good enough for her. And it's over processed garbage she's asking for at that.

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    Orange Panda
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, if you're going to have them over to eat and you know what they like, why wouldn't you have a small bottle of ketchup? Also, if she rubs a tomato on a sandwich instead of using a condiment, I'm not eating it and walking away while muttering about a waste of tomato. A good idea going forward is telling them exactly what's being served and how it's prepared so they can bring their own condiments if need be. I was leaning towards E*S*H, but the more I think about it, if OP isn't telling people what the food is going to be, the fault is entirely hers and her husbands for not considering her guests at all. Full YTA.

    arataranda
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    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Considering SIL was asked to BYO condiments and SIL said no....SIL massive YTA here. This is family and family equals compromise. I don't see the SIL compromising in any way shape or form. Just complaining. At least OP compromised. And OP doesn't have kids so why should she stock kid things.

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    Don't listen to me
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok but a bottle of ketchup in the cupboard for kids is not exactly a problem. It keeps forever. In UK we don't usually have mayo in our sandwiches, just bread & butter & filling, but what does it mean to rub bread with a tomato?? That is seriously weird.

    roddy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It isn't just ketchup, it's everything. She would need an entire cupboard of junk food just to satisfy SIL, because she's not happy about anything. Ketchup is just the tip of the iceberg. But I don't think it's reasonable to expect a childless couple to keep a lot of kid-friendly junk food around just for their occasional visits. The kids would learn a lot just by trying something new for a change. My kid will eat just about anything and from any culture. He's very experimental even though he's mildly autistic. I'm very happy about that. He's a very inventive cook, too.

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    Apatheist Account2
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a feeling that this was old - FOURS YEARS AGO. I check the replies, then don't bother with the post. Please get up to date BP.

    Ivona
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    9 months ago (edited)

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    Clearly, OT feels very righteous about herr own culture and are heavily opposed to American cuisine and American-style condiments. However, since she has American relatives who visit her for meals, she should have those condiments available and make sure to find out what is typically served alongside tacos here in the U.S - it's sour cream, not Greek yogurt. When she serves tacos, she should have sour cream. When she makes sandwiches, she should put mayo on the bread. Rubbing bread with tomatoes has nothing to do with mayo. Tomato slices go on top of the meat and cheese.

    Kaa
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    9 months ago

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    "OOOOoooOOOhh I eat super healthy, I don't even use common condiments" 🙄 Jeez, what's the problem with having a bottle of ketchup on hand for the kids. OP sounds very pretentious

    KatSaidWhat
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That rogue YTA is a little unhinged. Also, stop inviting these people.

    Papa
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you mean the one who said it took more energy to post about it on the internet than it would have to buy a bottle of ketchup? If yes, while I wouldn't go so far as to say she's an AH, he did have a point.

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    Stacy Bender
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SIL sounds like a toddler. As for the food, it sounds like our house. Healthy stuff.

    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like the OP eats a bit healthier than the SIL and the SIL feels judged. I think ordering a pizza or some other delivery while everyone is there to agree on it sounds like a great plan. Its worth giving it a go if the cousins all get along so they can play together.

    Anxious&Bored Bear
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure about ordering pizza whenever they come over because the occasional visit might become a regular visit.

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    Inglourioustmnt
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That one yta person is a ridiculous loser. I dont use ketchup therefore i do not have it. Deal with it or gtfo

    BoredLittleLeafSheep
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd tell SIL to f**k off. Where I spend my money is none of her business and if she doesn't like my food, she can either bring her own food for her crotch goblins or she can stay home.

    OzymandiasTheManokit They/Them
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FOR REAL THO. SIL acknowledged that there were * no condiments * the first time, and threw a fit the second time. it's OP's house, fridge, and pantry; SIL can bring her own damn condiments.

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    Earonn -
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *sigh* and here am I, brought up to be a grateful guest and accept that other people eat different dishes, or prepare them differently. To try everything and be polite about it if I really don't like it.

    Vinnie
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I checked the list of narcissistic traits. Not having ketchup isn't listed in the DSM-5. Maybe the SIL used a very old edition for the Manual? The one that lists the Vapours and Hysteria?

    painttheyellowsubgreen
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The irony of the narcissist SIL claiming OP is a narcissist because she doesn't have a fridge full of things the SIL wants.

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    Janelle Collard
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd refuse to make *any* more meals for the in-laws. Then when SIL complains, I'd give her 20 bucks to take the kids to McD's.

    Natalia
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd give a rude, demanding arsehole money?

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    Mark Childers
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not buying condiments or anything else I don't eat on the off chance someone might visit me and need them before they go bad, and I have to throw them away. The SIL is upset about something else.

    Upstaged75
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't go to someone's house and complain about the free food they serve you. You shut up and eat what you can and then say thank you. And if your kid is going to have a meltdown over ketchup you should bring your own. Or teach your child not to be a spoiled a*****e.

    Gwyn
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dunno, I'm on the fence. When we have friends over I always have variety of extra food so everyone can have something they like. I'll include gluten free food and things I know their kids like. I don't really get why she'd refuse to get anything she doesn't usually eat, that's not how entertaining usually works. On the other hand she can't be expected to have absolutely everything they could possibly want. I'm wondering if there's a cultural difference here causing issues.

    roddy
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like no matter what meal she makes, it's not how SIL would do it at home, so therefore wrong. Which is ironic, because SIL obviously has no idea how to cook. She seems to live on the simplest of toddler fast food. Just give her jars of peanut butter and jam and let her go to it, it seems about her level. Assuming she doesn't slop mayo on that also.

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    tori Ohno
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you've never tried plain Greek yogurt instead of sour cream, I dare you to try it. Just once. It's delicious, lower in calories and fat, and has protein. The flavor is almost identical as well.

    CalamityOne
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry, but A) greek yogurt is an awesome substitute for sour cream, and B) if these kids can't live without certain condiments, then the parents should be buying travel-sized containers of them to take when visiting!

    The Starsong Princess
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Give her an etiquette book for Christmas with the part about not complaining about the food when you are a guest highlighted.

    BookFanatic
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're gonna let me come over, and feed me...I'll eat whatever you put in front of me. However. On the rare times I'm hosting friends with kiddos I'll usually ask if there's something special they like to eat. Also, I always have ketchup and ranch dressing and Kraft Singles.

    White Sauce Hot Sauce
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SiL probably meant Tex-Mex tacos, with a hard shell corn tortilla, ground beef, shredded cheddar cheese, iceberg lettuce, tomatoes, dollop of sour cream. She's also a spoiled brat and raising her kids to be just like that.

    roddy
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! I'm sure they wouldn't recognize a real taco if it jumped up and bit them. Just that boxed c*p from the supermarket. They need to develop some tastebuds. The kids are doomed, if this is their idea of cooking.

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    Boo
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the sister in law is sooooo bugged out by the OP not having the right condiments, maybe the SIL should bring that stuff to OP's and cut the cràp since she knows the OP doesn't stock her kitchen with it....just a thought.

    Xenia Harley
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being first generation American, a lot of Americans just cannot handle anything outside of their comfort zone of American food. This woman (SIL) sounds like she is trying to put OP down, by the comments and wanting condiments for everything. Maybe the SIL needs to bring her own for her children! I used to get a lot of flack about the "weird" food I ate with my family. It just wasn't Spaghetti-os! SIL needs to appreciate the OP's cultural background, seems like!

    Schmebulock
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Block her and make your husband deal with them - problem solved.

    Justme
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m never offended if someone doesn’t have what I’m accustomed to at their house. I either adapt or bring my own. If I were hosting this SIL we’d just be dining out from now on.

    JayWantsACat
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the SIL wasn't such an a*****e about it, I'd just ask OP is it's really an issue just to have more mundane condiments on hand for the kids when they visit? But also why can't the SIL just bring (or buy and store at OP's house) the condiments?

    Dave Morris
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do you even let these people come to your house? They are entitled and freeloading. Just because you are related to them doesn't mean you have to deal with their s**t.

    Roxie Carter
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would be waaaay more missed about the comments about prioritizing my looks. SIL crossed a line.

    MidnightProphecy
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA but if someone rubbed my bread with a tomato and then be confused why I’m a bit oh about it I’d be like wha?! lol

    Tonyah Mcanelly
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA I was always taught to respect your host. I have taught my kids the same. These people are gracious enough to open their home to you. the SIL needs to show gratitude and humility. If we went to some ones home we would eat what they served. My kids were not allowed to say " I dont like that" if they didnt like something they were to say. I really dont care for that thank you . But they were never allowed to say they didnt like something unless they at least had a bite and tried it. This actually opened up their pallets to new things how many 5 year olds do you know who loves sushi?

    roddy
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do they serve nothing but kid-friendly or chain-store fast food at their home when you visit? Or don't they reciprocate? SIL sounds ridiculous. Guests should eat what they are given and be thankful, not nitpick because you don't have their favorite nibbles in stock. Choosing beggars.

    Korok
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like they cook lovely food but personally i need ketchup for my homemade chips and brown sauce for my bacon sarnie 😉

    Ace
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well yes, me too (we're talking about proper chips using the British meaning here, not crisps). What I don't understand is why, if you don't like somebody's cooking, would you continue going round to eat there? The taco thing is weird, but I guess you have to be American to understand it.

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    Terry Fergusson
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the kids require special condiments to eat then the mother should be carrying packets in her purse, just in case? She obviously doesn't love her kids! /s

    ADDchallengedINFP-T
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA, who said that? We don't drink, we have no beer or liquor, We don't use ketchup, so we don't buy it. Person who said YTA, can go and buy the stuff for Op. When SIL and kids visit, bring your own condiments.. Don't tell me what to have in my home. Shame on you YTAs

    ANGEL M
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not going to buy stuff for my house that I will not use when "guests" are not visiting. I have an digestive intolerance to malt vinegar so in my house you are not getting vinegar for chips here. I can't eat wheat so don't have cereal a lot and as a result don't buy milk that often and as a result you cone to my house no milk for tea or coffee. My family if visiting knows this and will bring their own

    Nicole Weymann
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How dare you have us over and not feed us junk food!" If your kids (and you) are not able to eat without ketchup and/or mayo you better see to it that you have some on you. It may sound weird to some people, but not everybody eats the same way, and what's "absolutely basic" to some (in my household that would include milk, but not sodas, and ketchup, but not hot sauce or mayo) may be a "we don't eat it, so we don't have it" to others. But since the effort, time, and love involved in preparing meals is obviously lost on SIL I'd advise vot delivered pizza, too.

    Woodsie
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Souns like the SIL is jealous but do think it wouldn't kill op to buy a bottle of tomato sauce and mayonnaise to keep in the fridge. When you have guests you need to cater to their needs somewhat, the same as you would cater for someone who is coeliac or vegetarian. OP seems to have a bit of a snobby attitude to food, it's what she likes and guests can like it or lump it. Appreciate that ops food is healthier and would be what I prefer also however these are guests in her home. Agree with others next time order takeaway with everyone's input.

    Betsy S
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people are NOT "guests". They're just family members who pop by. It's not a dinner party where you go out and shop for food for that meal and then of course, make sure everyone has what they like. This is just their average grocery supplies and if they don't eat ketchup, they shouldn't buy it. It goes bad surprisingly quickly and then there's yet another plastic bottle clogging up the landfill after wasting their money on a food item that doesn't get eaten.

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    E M
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like SIL is jealous of OP's childfree lifestyle and has a laughably limited palette she is unfortunately inflicting on her kids too.

    Jack Butler
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hard ESH. SiL sounds like an awful, basic b***h and OP sounds like a Portland level pretentious wank stain

    Michael Fernandez
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol I just threw away half of a 12-pack of beer I bought for a friend’s visit two years ago.

    Meagan Glaser
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    nobody in teh comments mentioned that "normal" and "kid friendly" are REALLY subjective and cultural? Sounds like OP makes authentic tacos, and SIL was expecting Tex Mex style. SIL thinks it's basic courtesy because she thinks it's a part of equipping a household to have ketchup and mayo, but those things are NOT basic in OOP's culture. It's kind of like an American going to a traditional Japanese Inn and complainging it's "rude" to make people kneel on teh floor and not have chairs

    Tib Laughlin
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess I am weird. First, these are not random visits. They are planned. Second the cost of a bottle of ketchup is trivial, so the "I am not wasting my money" point is pointless. I love to host people. Travellers. Locals for dinner parties. Friends. Family. When I plan for guests those plans include prepping for the guests pleasure. Like learning what they drink. Learning what they can't/won't eat. If my nibblings are coming I ask my sibs what their kids eat and drink and I stock those things. Because I am thoughtful. I love seafood. But moved to the Midwest. Many of my guest won't touch fish with out "cat" in it's name or a tin in its history. So I don't do a seafood feast of my beloved Shrimp Newburg without specifically asking first. Now, I have to go by Gogurt I will never eat because I have company coming.

    Southie
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    don't buy the condiments. And have your tacos however you want. Tell them next time, this is what you are serving. Like it or leave it. Or tell them to bring something they will eat. Better yet. Don't invite them. They sound awful. The ones that are calling you the AH, are probably picky chicken nugget eaters LOL

    VNES101
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SIL just thinks she's bougie and "high class" and takes every opportunity to try to push her down.

    roddy
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, I suspect she finds gourmet cooking pretentious. She clearly resents that OP has a nice wardrobe. Maybe she's just really insecure and this is how she pushes back by pretending that nothing is good enough for her. And it's over processed garbage she's asking for at that.

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    Orange Panda
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, if you're going to have them over to eat and you know what they like, why wouldn't you have a small bottle of ketchup? Also, if she rubs a tomato on a sandwich instead of using a condiment, I'm not eating it and walking away while muttering about a waste of tomato. A good idea going forward is telling them exactly what's being served and how it's prepared so they can bring their own condiments if need be. I was leaning towards E*S*H, but the more I think about it, if OP isn't telling people what the food is going to be, the fault is entirely hers and her husbands for not considering her guests at all. Full YTA.

    arataranda
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    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Considering SIL was asked to BYO condiments and SIL said no....SIL massive YTA here. This is family and family equals compromise. I don't see the SIL compromising in any way shape or form. Just complaining. At least OP compromised. And OP doesn't have kids so why should she stock kid things.

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    Don't listen to me
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok but a bottle of ketchup in the cupboard for kids is not exactly a problem. It keeps forever. In UK we don't usually have mayo in our sandwiches, just bread & butter & filling, but what does it mean to rub bread with a tomato?? That is seriously weird.

    roddy
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It isn't just ketchup, it's everything. She would need an entire cupboard of junk food just to satisfy SIL, because she's not happy about anything. Ketchup is just the tip of the iceberg. But I don't think it's reasonable to expect a childless couple to keep a lot of kid-friendly junk food around just for their occasional visits. The kids would learn a lot just by trying something new for a change. My kid will eat just about anything and from any culture. He's very experimental even though he's mildly autistic. I'm very happy about that. He's a very inventive cook, too.

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    Apatheist Account2
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    9 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a feeling that this was old - FOURS YEARS AGO. I check the replies, then don't bother with the post. Please get up to date BP.

    Ivona
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    9 months ago (edited)

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    Clearly, OT feels very righteous about herr own culture and are heavily opposed to American cuisine and American-style condiments. However, since she has American relatives who visit her for meals, she should have those condiments available and make sure to find out what is typically served alongside tacos here in the U.S - it's sour cream, not Greek yogurt. When she serves tacos, she should have sour cream. When she makes sandwiches, she should put mayo on the bread. Rubbing bread with tomatoes has nothing to do with mayo. Tomato slices go on top of the meat and cheese.

    Kaa
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    9 months ago

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    "OOOOoooOOOhh I eat super healthy, I don't even use common condiments" 🙄 Jeez, what's the problem with having a bottle of ketchup on hand for the kids. OP sounds very pretentious

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