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“This Is ‘Our’ Baby Not ‘My’ Baby”: Woman Blindsided By Husband’s Bill For Maternity Leave
“This Is ‘Our’ Baby Not ‘My’ Baby”: Woman Blindsided By Husband’s Bill For Maternity Leave
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“This Is ‘Our’ Baby Not ‘My’ Baby”: Woman Blindsided By Husband’s Bill For Maternity Leave

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When you’re in a long-term romantic relationship with someone, it’s meant to be an equal partnership with a foundation of trust, good communication, and mutual respect. When you’re married, have kids, and have a shared home, you pitch in as needed instead of ‘keeping score.’ You’re a team. You’re on the same side. Or, well, you’re supposed to be. Unfortunately, some individuals interpret fundamentally emotional things very mechanically and transactionally.

An anonymous mom, who recently had a baby, went viral after asking the Mumsnet online community for advice on a truly bizarre situation at home. She revealed that her husband has been calculating how much money she “owes him” for while she was on maternity leave and contributing less to the family budget. If you’re feeling confused or frustrated, you’re not the only one. Read on for the story in full and the advice other parents gave the woman.

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    An anonymous mom was flabbergasted when her husband said she “owes him” for contributing less to the family budget while she was on maternity leave

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    Even when both partners earn similar amounts of money, women are often saddled with more responsibilities at home

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    CNN reports that even in equal relationships where both partners earn similar amounts of money at work, women are still left doing more at home. “Even as financial contributions have become more equal in marriages, the way couples divide their time between paid work and home life remains unbalanced,” a study conducted by the Pew Research Center found.

    “Husbands in egalitarian marriages spend about 3.5 hours more per week on leisure activities than wives do. Wives in these marriages spend roughly 2 hours more per week on caregiving than husbands do and about 2.5 hours more on housework.”

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    On the one hand, things like fairness and being on the same page in terms of finances are very important. If you constantly have to sacrifice everything while your partner does nothing, it’s bound to result in a buildup of resentment over the months and years. Furthermore, if you have wildly different financial goals and attitudes to work, saving, and investing, you’ll probably end up arguing a ton.

    On the other hand, fairness requires as much objectivity as possible, not just subjective perspectives that benefit you and you alone. We’ll be blunt: when you have children and one of you is on parental leave, nitpicking who contributed what specific amount of money to the family budget each month is bonkers.

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    You cannot (and arguably should not) quantify what a person’s efforts in pregnancy, childbirth, and childcare are in terms of cold hard cash. It turns a magical event (the birth of your child) and the entire relationship into something transactional and—ironically—sterile. But if your partner tells you that you “owe” them for contributing less to the budget because you were busy carrying, birthing, and raising both of your children, you may want to remind them that your contributions to the family have been invaluable.

    In these sorts of cases, it might be best to reach out to a certified couple’s counselor for advice

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    Aside from having a few heart-to-heart conversations about how this sort of cold, calculating mentality negatively affects you, you may also want to consider going to couples counseling. A good therapist with a background in married couple dynamics can, hopefully, reframe the entire situation in a way that empowers you.

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    If your partner suddenly starts calculating who brings in how much money, if this is completely out of character for them, it can potentially be a very weird reaction to the stress of parenthood. Maybe it’s a breakdown. Or maybe you’re just now seeing them for who they really are as an individual, what their values are, and where their priorities lie. Inevitably, you start calculating what they’re contributing to the relationship, too. Not just in terms of their wage, but also the housework, childcare, etc.

    It would be callous to suggest divorcing someone when you don’t even know the people involved personally, but this sort of situation is a good wake-up call to reevaluate your relationship. Have those tough conversations. Arguing too much is toxic, but not arguing at all about anything can be just as bad if you avoid tackling genuine problems.

    If you want to continue down the same path as a team, you’ll need to get on the same page. Neither partner should make the other person feel guilty for doing their parenting duties.

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    Your relationship with your career is going to change when you have kids. That’s a fact. Perfect equality is very rare, but what you can have is equity. One partner might take on slightly more chores if they’re a full-time parent or work remotely (whether fully or part-time). The other person might then focus on bringing in more money, but they’ll also pitch in at home as needed.

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    When dividing up the chores at home, it really helps if you approach things from the perspective of who doesn’t mind doing what. If you don’t mind doing the dishes, you could tackle that chore more often than your partner while they focus on vacuuming or cooking, things that they enjoy. At the end of the day, though, if you continuously ‘keep score’ about everything, you’re going to end up frustrated and will annoy your partner.

    Couples tend to fight most often about money, intimacy, chores, and annoying habits

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    Forbes explains that, based on self-determination theory, people have three basic psychological needs in their day-to-day lives. These are the need for autonomy, competence, and relatedness. If these needs are unmet, they can lead to frustration, and a lack of motivation, increase the frequency of conflicts, and will impact your intimate relationships.

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    Meanwhile, Brides magazine states that the most common sources for arguments in relationships are money, intimacy, chores, and ‘the little things.’ For instance, money is directly tied to feelings of power and autonomy. Your trust in your partner can quickly go downhill if one person’s too cheap, the other’s spending too much, or someone’s hiding their expenses.

    When it comes to intimacy, things like compassion, honesty, and compatibility are absolutely vital. You have to have the courage to be honest about your wants and needs without feeling like you’re judging your partner. It’s an embarrassing topic to tackle, but your health and happiness depend on it.

    Housework is also a common source of conflict when one partner constantly takes on more responsibilities than the other. Another factor that can affect the health of your relationship is the collection of annoying habits that your partner has. Nobody’s perfect. Everybody’s human. We all have our quirks. But if some habits constantly annoy you, you should talk to your partner about it (again, without judging them). Then again, not every little annoying thing needs to be addressed. You need to be willing to embrace some of them for the wonderful little imperfections they are.

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    What advice would you give the new mom? How do you think she should approach the situation with her husband? How would you react if your partner suddenly started talking about how much you “owed” them for while you were busy being a parent? What’s your approach to earnings and housework in your relationship? Let us know in the comments.

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    The author shared a bit more context about her situation in the comments of her post

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    Many internet users were honestly shocked by what they read. Here’s the advice they gave the woman

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    Jonas Grinevičius

    Jonas Grinevičius

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    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    Jonas Grinevičius

    Jonas Grinevičius

    Writer, Senior Writer

    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

    What do you think ?
    WindySwede
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And here is what you own me for risking my life and squishing out a crotch goblin.. 🙃 /jk

    lenka
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. In addition to the X$ for medical expenses, vitamins, supplements. pre-natal care, birth costs and medical expenses and post natal care, you can also contribute X% to my pension fund to reimburse me for time away from employment and x% annual adjustment of my income per year for lost professional advancement and promotional opportunities. You want to 'split the costs'? These are very real costs childbirth.

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    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insure.com figures the wage a mother should earn for many jobs she must tackle on maternity leave is $126,725. Tell him to shove that in his pipe and smoke it.

    Snow_White
    Community Member
    1 year ago

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    Dude... maternity is paid by government and companies in UK and EU.

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    Korok
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact that she pays for all the groceries anyway really got me too!

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny how this rule didn't apply when you were earning more. Backdate his share to the beginning, bill him and file for divorce. He can pay 50% for baby from thereon while you get on with your life with a fully developed life partner.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When married, all money, assets and debts, is considered joint. OP would be paying him out of his own money. I'd be suspicious that he's spending money out of his personal account that he doesn't have. Looking after a house and family counts as work, people!

    Schnitzel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy Moly Pasta Pie! O.O This is cause for a divorce because it won't getter any better than this. This is such a huge turnoff for me.

    Widdershins66
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🤷🤷🤷🤦🤦🤦 Words escape me...!!!!!!!!!

    ॐBoyGanesh
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ya gotta love transactional relationships! Kidding. I took off to raise our son and it didn’t change much other than our income, as we share everything. But then, my husband already knows at what rate I value my time and if things were going to be divided, separate and transactional, he couldn’t afford me to take on all the labor I did. That OP seems to take on most of the shared responsibilities and even pays for groceries, I can pretty much guess she takes on all the mental & emotional labor along with the household/family logistical labor. Not to mention the “surrogacy” of which he was responsible for 50% of. Again, transactional relationships are rather opaque and if ya wanna needle costs, you’re gonna get screwed.

    ZGutr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get it .... You marry to spend your life together (days, meals, house, holidays etc etc etc) , even raise kids. But ... then there is your money and there is my money ?? What makes money so special it's the only thing not to be shared?

    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the couple‘s circumstances. My husband and I both contribute a certain amount to bills, then I have my business account and we also have our own separate accounts. I grew up understanding that money = a way to escape if things go bad. Even my grandmother used to tell me to always have a little money set aside because women can’t depend on men to make good financial decisions on their behalf.

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    Christopher Walkies
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She says in one reply: ‘his family are all weird’. She thinks she got the normal one. The twist: there is no normal one in these families. Sorry.

    Cronecast AtTheRisingMoon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, when she says it is out of character, it's really a case of no, no. He got all the way through calculating what she owes him for taking care of their child and presented her with a number. That's not a weird, "man, what was I even thinking?" moment, that's something he worked on for ten months. Poor woman needs to recognize that she believes her husband to have a different set of values than he pretty clearly does. Also, run for your life to a lawyer who can then legally calculate who owes what. This isn't just a red flag, this man honestly thought for ten months that he should be paid for his wife's provision of childcare for their infant child. That's not a brainfart, that's a clear indication of his feeling of responsibility to his child. Run now, and stop having children with this man. Accept who he has shown himself to be and if she's not leaving now, she needs to be hyperaware of figuring out who this guy actually is.

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    Socks Thecate
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd get rid. Shame she didn't find out how horrible he was until after she birthed his child.

    Ekaterina Myers
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would never ever have kids with a man who would refuse to fully financially support me and my baby during pregnancy and at least the first 3 years. Luckily I never even met one who would insist even on 50/50 😂

    Broad Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really don't see how the relationship can continue. I'd never forget being told that. It says so much about him.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guy, there's a reason they call childbirth "labor".

    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus the labour starts 8-9 months before and continues for the rest of your life, with the most intense work done in the first 5 years.

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    Suzie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask him how much he thinks he'll owe you every month in child support.

    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What in the actual hell? F**k that. How about instead he ask himself what he physically owes her for all that she's going through with pregnancy and dealing with a newborn as a mother? Also, I will never understand married couples who keep finances separate at all. Just doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Do you want to do this life together forever or not? I understand maybe some people have trauma with past marriages so I can get behind setting up boundaries in future relationships. But also my wife went through a divorce already and dealt with the financial blows from it, yet we still share everything with no prenup. Or maybe I'm just stupid? idk

    Abraxas59
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well my flabber is gasted wtf did I just read honestly shocked now I’ve being in controlling and violent marriages but I’ve never had that thrown at me before that’s some kind of new abuse for sure I agree with everyone else sit down and write your own invoice out don’t even do him if it was a joke etc keep quiet do invoice with all the hourly amounts others suggested and hand it to him or to be even more petty mail it to him printed out on a pro looking invoice cos u can bet he owes you a lot more than he claims you do him ! Love the find out the surrogacy thing that’s normally around £10 k so start there then cooking cleaning etc being a nanny to his child find out the going rate for them yes go mega petty cos what he did was just that and keep us updated on the man child’s arrogance on this please lol Blessed be

    Trillian
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Send him an invoice for full-time nanny care of the baby.

    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And a bill for being the "surrogate" that carried the baby. :)

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    Tyke
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bill him for your time, for half the rental for your body, for half of all your maternity clothes, nipple patches, etc. Then see what he says.

    Greenmantle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude needs a massive reality check.

    roddy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does he think the pregnancy had nothing to do with him? He must be completely delusional.

    Matt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hit him with a bill showing he owes you for childcare for his 12 hours a day

    Petra brown
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS IS NOT NORMAL !!! I am so sorry that you had to birth his child to see him for what he really is: An abuser and hater of women. I have no words. You have his child, stay home to give the little one the best start in life and he writes you an invoice? When your finances are not in a good place? This guy is a predator and thinks he has you dead to rights - that you will go along with everything he wants because you are in a vulnerable position. This is serious. He neither deserves you nor your child. Don't engage in duscussions with him. Document everything and gather as much evidence as you can - especially his "invoice". Get a good divorce lawyer and follow his/her advice. Get out now! This will get a lot worse if you don't. You do not have the luxury to wait and find out how far this douchebag is willing to go. Your first responsibility is to your child.

    Emma S
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So much for 'for richer, for poorer.'

    Kari Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear husband can take paternity leave, wife can go back to work and then calculate the money her husband owes her each month 😇 (Seriously though, this man shouldn’t be anybody‘s husband or father.)

    Callie Ge
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Give him a Bill for all the hours of Child Care $25 per hour, house cleaning, $30 per hour, Laundry $14 per load, social secretary duties $25 per hour ( taking care of all family activities, keeping track of special occasions, shopping for those occasions, decorating for Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Easter etc) Then give him an estimate for the cost of a divorce & what he will pay in child support.

    Deborah Aitch
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you own the property put it on the market, if not start looking for a nursery, go back to work, never see him again. The baby won't miss him as he would probably only want access to get back at you. Don't you now realise 2 years in was a bit soon for committing to parenthood?

    Midnightoil
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run! Grab that baby and run far!!! You will do just fine raising your child without his selfish ‘me me me’ attitude. Don’t become a statistic of staying with a self centered sperm donat!

    Elke Knupp
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a real man. Send him back to his mommy.

    Canadadreams
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    U carry the baby only for 5 months and ask him to carry the remaining months in his tummy and also ask him to go thru the delivery pain. If thts impossible then ask him to keep his mouth shut. Actually pretend tht u also checked the possibility with the doctor and tell him to get ready

    Rizzo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He clearly doesn't understand the concept of a life-partnership.

    WindySwede
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And here is what you own me for risking my life and squishing out a crotch goblin.. 🙃 /jk

    lenka
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. In addition to the X$ for medical expenses, vitamins, supplements. pre-natal care, birth costs and medical expenses and post natal care, you can also contribute X% to my pension fund to reimburse me for time away from employment and x% annual adjustment of my income per year for lost professional advancement and promotional opportunities. You want to 'split the costs'? These are very real costs childbirth.

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    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insure.com figures the wage a mother should earn for many jobs she must tackle on maternity leave is $126,725. Tell him to shove that in his pipe and smoke it.

    Snow_White
    Community Member
    1 year ago

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    Dude... maternity is paid by government and companies in UK and EU.

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    Korok
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact that she pays for all the groceries anyway really got me too!

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny how this rule didn't apply when you were earning more. Backdate his share to the beginning, bill him and file for divorce. He can pay 50% for baby from thereon while you get on with your life with a fully developed life partner.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When married, all money, assets and debts, is considered joint. OP would be paying him out of his own money. I'd be suspicious that he's spending money out of his personal account that he doesn't have. Looking after a house and family counts as work, people!

    Schnitzel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy Moly Pasta Pie! O.O This is cause for a divorce because it won't getter any better than this. This is such a huge turnoff for me.

    Widdershins66
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    🤷🤷🤷🤦🤦🤦 Words escape me...!!!!!!!!!

    ॐBoyGanesh
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ya gotta love transactional relationships! Kidding. I took off to raise our son and it didn’t change much other than our income, as we share everything. But then, my husband already knows at what rate I value my time and if things were going to be divided, separate and transactional, he couldn’t afford me to take on all the labor I did. That OP seems to take on most of the shared responsibilities and even pays for groceries, I can pretty much guess she takes on all the mental & emotional labor along with the household/family logistical labor. Not to mention the “surrogacy” of which he was responsible for 50% of. Again, transactional relationships are rather opaque and if ya wanna needle costs, you’re gonna get screwed.

    ZGutr
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't get it .... You marry to spend your life together (days, meals, house, holidays etc etc etc) , even raise kids. But ... then there is your money and there is my money ?? What makes money so special it's the only thing not to be shared?

    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the couple‘s circumstances. My husband and I both contribute a certain amount to bills, then I have my business account and we also have our own separate accounts. I grew up understanding that money = a way to escape if things go bad. Even my grandmother used to tell me to always have a little money set aside because women can’t depend on men to make good financial decisions on their behalf.

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    Christopher Walkies
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She says in one reply: ‘his family are all weird’. She thinks she got the normal one. The twist: there is no normal one in these families. Sorry.

    Cronecast AtTheRisingMoon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, when she says it is out of character, it's really a case of no, no. He got all the way through calculating what she owes him for taking care of their child and presented her with a number. That's not a weird, "man, what was I even thinking?" moment, that's something he worked on for ten months. Poor woman needs to recognize that she believes her husband to have a different set of values than he pretty clearly does. Also, run for your life to a lawyer who can then legally calculate who owes what. This isn't just a red flag, this man honestly thought for ten months that he should be paid for his wife's provision of childcare for their infant child. That's not a brainfart, that's a clear indication of his feeling of responsibility to his child. Run now, and stop having children with this man. Accept who he has shown himself to be and if she's not leaving now, she needs to be hyperaware of figuring out who this guy actually is.

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    Socks Thecate
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd get rid. Shame she didn't find out how horrible he was until after she birthed his child.

    Ekaterina Myers
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would never ever have kids with a man who would refuse to fully financially support me and my baby during pregnancy and at least the first 3 years. Luckily I never even met one who would insist even on 50/50 😂

    Broad Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really don't see how the relationship can continue. I'd never forget being told that. It says so much about him.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Guy, there's a reason they call childbirth "labor".

    cerinamroth
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus the labour starts 8-9 months before and continues for the rest of your life, with the most intense work done in the first 5 years.

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    Suzie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask him how much he thinks he'll owe you every month in child support.

    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What in the actual hell? F**k that. How about instead he ask himself what he physically owes her for all that she's going through with pregnancy and dealing with a newborn as a mother? Also, I will never understand married couples who keep finances separate at all. Just doesn't make a lick of sense to me. Do you want to do this life together forever or not? I understand maybe some people have trauma with past marriages so I can get behind setting up boundaries in future relationships. But also my wife went through a divorce already and dealt with the financial blows from it, yet we still share everything with no prenup. Or maybe I'm just stupid? idk

    Abraxas59
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well my flabber is gasted wtf did I just read honestly shocked now I’ve being in controlling and violent marriages but I’ve never had that thrown at me before that’s some kind of new abuse for sure I agree with everyone else sit down and write your own invoice out don’t even do him if it was a joke etc keep quiet do invoice with all the hourly amounts others suggested and hand it to him or to be even more petty mail it to him printed out on a pro looking invoice cos u can bet he owes you a lot more than he claims you do him ! Love the find out the surrogacy thing that’s normally around £10 k so start there then cooking cleaning etc being a nanny to his child find out the going rate for them yes go mega petty cos what he did was just that and keep us updated on the man child’s arrogance on this please lol Blessed be

    Trillian
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Send him an invoice for full-time nanny care of the baby.

    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And a bill for being the "surrogate" that carried the baby. :)

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    Tyke
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bill him for your time, for half the rental for your body, for half of all your maternity clothes, nipple patches, etc. Then see what he says.

    Greenmantle
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude needs a massive reality check.

    roddy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does he think the pregnancy had nothing to do with him? He must be completely delusional.

    Matt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hit him with a bill showing he owes you for childcare for his 12 hours a day

    Petra brown
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS IS NOT NORMAL !!! I am so sorry that you had to birth his child to see him for what he really is: An abuser and hater of women. I have no words. You have his child, stay home to give the little one the best start in life and he writes you an invoice? When your finances are not in a good place? This guy is a predator and thinks he has you dead to rights - that you will go along with everything he wants because you are in a vulnerable position. This is serious. He neither deserves you nor your child. Don't engage in duscussions with him. Document everything and gather as much evidence as you can - especially his "invoice". Get a good divorce lawyer and follow his/her advice. Get out now! This will get a lot worse if you don't. You do not have the luxury to wait and find out how far this douchebag is willing to go. Your first responsibility is to your child.

    Emma S
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So much for 'for richer, for poorer.'

    Kari Panda
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear husband can take paternity leave, wife can go back to work and then calculate the money her husband owes her each month 😇 (Seriously though, this man shouldn’t be anybody‘s husband or father.)

    Callie Ge
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Give him a Bill for all the hours of Child Care $25 per hour, house cleaning, $30 per hour, Laundry $14 per load, social secretary duties $25 per hour ( taking care of all family activities, keeping track of special occasions, shopping for those occasions, decorating for Christmas, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Easter etc) Then give him an estimate for the cost of a divorce & what he will pay in child support.

    Deborah Aitch
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you own the property put it on the market, if not start looking for a nursery, go back to work, never see him again. The baby won't miss him as he would probably only want access to get back at you. Don't you now realise 2 years in was a bit soon for committing to parenthood?

    Midnightoil
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run! Grab that baby and run far!!! You will do just fine raising your child without his selfish ‘me me me’ attitude. Don’t become a statistic of staying with a self centered sperm donat!

    Elke Knupp
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a real man. Send him back to his mommy.

    Canadadreams
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    U carry the baby only for 5 months and ask him to carry the remaining months in his tummy and also ask him to go thru the delivery pain. If thts impossible then ask him to keep his mouth shut. Actually pretend tht u also checked the possibility with the doctor and tell him to get ready

    Rizzo
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He clearly doesn't understand the concept of a life-partnership.

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