Husband Begs Wife Not To Throw Away 13 Years Together Over A “Mistake”, She’s Not Having It
Interview With ExpertCheating is always awful when you’re on the receiving end. It’s even worse when it involves one of your siblings. The ‘keep it in the family’ rule definitely doesn’t apply here. It can divide the whole extended family and make repairing previously close relationships nearly impossible.
The author of this story found out her husband was cheating on her with her own sister. Naturally, her first inclination was anger and contempt at both cheating parties. But, because her family had different opinions about her reactions, she decided to ask the Internet’s opinion.
Bored Panda sought the opinion of Clinical Psychologist Forrest Talley, Ph.D. He was kind enough to tell us more about how infidelity in the family can feel different and how the people involved might move on.
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A spouse’s infidelity can be even more hurtful when there’s another family member involved
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The OP of this story asked the Internet whether she was the jerk for wanting to divorce her husband who made out with her sister
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When such a huge betrayal comes from another family member, it causes double the pain
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A situation like this causes double the pain for the one who gets cheated on. The betrayal is not only from the husband but from the sister as well, especially when you’re that close. The OP writes, “Usually, if we needed to talk, we turned to each other,” so they must have been close.
Clinical Psychologist Forrest Talley tells Bored Panda that the betrayal in such situations becomes two times more heartbreaking. “All infidelity involves a betrayal of trust. When infidelity includes a close family member, then trust is doubly broken. By one’s spouse and also by the sister, brother, cousin, etc. This is an even greater burden for the one who has been betrayed,” Talley says.
The previously good relationship between the sisters makes the situation even more complicated. “This hurt will be much worse if the familial relationship between the one who was betrayed and the one who committed infidelity was especially close or very competitive,” Talley explains.
Sometimes, the siblings might have a relationship that resembles a rivalry. If there’s competitiveness, “the ego is even more bruised than it otherwise would be,” Talley says. “The betrayed individual feels even worse as he/she concludes that once again their competitor has won.”
Maintaining a relationship with that sibling will probably be very difficult
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Talley says that the best bet for those who want to salvage a relationship after infidelity is couples counseling. “The one who was unfaithful is unlikely to want to take full responsibility for their actions and subsequently do what is necessary to salvage the relationship,” the clinical psychologist explains.
“After all, they have already shown their lack of commitment, and this tepid desire to do the hard work to remain faithful then carries over to a lukewarm effort put into saving the relationship.” A couples counselor can guide the couples through this conflict and give them the best chance to move forward, Talley says.
“When a family member has been unfaithful, it will be especially important to come to peace with that relationship. You can divorce a spouse, leave a significant other, but a family member is connected by multiple familial relationships that you would not want to sever in order to gain distance.”
“There will be family get-togethers, birthday parties, Christmas celebrations, and more wherein both of you are likely to be in attendance. So in this regard, it is important to resolve your feelings of anger, hurt, and betrayal,” Talley emphasizes.
“To do this, approach that person when you have the self-discipline to remain calm,” Talley advises. “Make a list of the most important questions you have that need to be answered, in order for you to feel that you have a clear sense of what motivated them and how it was that they decided to betray you. Also, decide what it is you wish to say to them – this is your chance to assert yourself.”
Talking with a sibling who betrayed you like this likely won’t help to heal. Talley says that it’s more for gaining clarity. “With clarity, healing may occur, but it is just as likely that you will conclude that this family member is not someone who will any longer be part of your innermost circle. In that case, you are best served by treating them cordially but keeping them at a distance.”
However, evidence shows that most marriages end after one partner chooses to cheat
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Forrest Talley says research shows that, in most cases, infidelity ends a relationship. “This makes perfect sense,” he says. “Why stay in a relationship wherein your spouse or significant other has shown themselves to be untrustworthy?”
“Although some may reply that ‘It was a one-time lapse in judgment,’ this idea does not align with research showing that those who cheat once are three times more likely than their non-cheating counterparts to continue to be unfaithful.”
“With this in mind, it is most often best to separate from someone who has been unfaithful,” Talley adds. “Fear of the unknown is a primary obstacle that keeps people from separating and building a new future.”
“As with most fears, the key to moving forward is to take action in spite of your worries. Having done so, you will very quickly feel more confident and optimistic about the future.”
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***Please don’t throw away 13 years over a kiss***. She didn’t, Jerkass. You did.
I read once that when doing something you're not supposed to do, the first time is the most difficult (think the first time you were running late to work and sped like hell to mitigate it), every time after that is progressively easier. It's true, and it's the same with this mess. This was an affair he and the sister are only owning the make out part. She's entirely justified in her response (so is "Danny") because this guy is a worm.
Load More Replies...Um no, HE threw 13 years away over a kiss - but I'm a curious panda, why was OP working nights not a problem when he was a labourer but was a problem with his new job?
I will never understand why the victim is almost always expected to be "the bigger person" in these situations. They already ARE the bigger person; it's the cheater who has made themselves the lesser person. Also, there is no way you can convince me that this "indiscretion" was unplanned. The husband and sister are full-grown adults, not adolescents; this was not yet another remake of "The Blue Lagoon." Even if it were only kissing (riiiiiiiiight!), the trust is irreparably broken. OP is at least being honest about it, with those involved as well as with herself. Dad is already losing a son-in-law; unless he also wants to lose his daughter, he needs to support her or butt out.
Oo, loved your clarification on that. So right that they are already the bigger person. Believe me, always agrees but in that perception, much clearer argument.
Load More Replies...I can't be the only one who thinks the dirty couple is lying. They are trickle-truthing. They hoped if they said they were just 'kissing' that they would get forgiven. Both of them were so hell-bent on looking for trouble that I think they felt entitled enough and drunk enough to go farther and are now shocked that their spouses aren't indulging this tantrum-like stepping out. In 2 more weeks, one of the pair will be so frustrated that it will slip that a lot more happened.
I absolutely loathe when cheaters say it was a mistake. No, it's NOT just one mistake. It was a series of mistakes that culminated in the act. Jackass suddenly kissing her sister was a mistake. Sister not stopping Jackass immediately was another mistake. Jackass and sister not catching themselves and decided to make out was another big one.
This is just my opinion, but sister is the worst here because they are blood. There is no way on God's green earth I would let my sister's husband kiss me and just let that slide. I would have been on the phone the moment it happened. This is why people shouldn't drink. If all it takes to cheat on your wife is some alcohol, then don't drink. Dad needs to stay out of it. If he dislikes unpleasant things, then he needs to talk to his other daughter about causing unpleasant things. Husband needs to go somewhere else with his "throwing marriage away" bs. He's the one that did that.
Agree with so much you've written here; except Sis and Jackass are BOTH equally at fault. It would have taken action (to move away) by only ONE of them for this abomination to never have happened.
Load More Replies...If it was "just a kiss" then why did he feel the need to lie about it. Twice. And he prioritized his needs of hanging out with his friends over the marriage but she's the one "throwing away" the marriage? lmao so NTA
Apparently 13 years of marriage weren't of value to ex-husband, sister or father. So why should it matter to you?
of course husband and sister don't want OP to file for divorce! they cheated with each other and now everything's blowing up in their faces and they are trying to do damage control. Block them both OP, they absolutely do not care about you, only about the consequences. Why your father is supporting your sister I do not understand; maybe he's just afraid of all the drama this is causing in the family or she's told him an edited version that makes her look like the victim. Just block him too. But your mother and BIL are on your side, so there's that. Anyway, why would you want to continue with husband knowing you can't trust him? It looks like that, for you, the loss of trust is not something that you can live with. So don't. Put yourself first for once. File for divorce.
Sister was clearly looking for something. Glad she's giving them both the boot. "I miss you but I don't want to miss playing games so I wont inconvenience myself to be with you."
I work days. My wife works nights, traveling. She's away from home 3 nights of the week, and when she gets home she has to readjust her schedule to be on track with us and the kids. And we still make that work without me kissing strangers. It takes creativity from both parties to make that work. I found a bar that needed someone hosting trivia night one of her nights off. Now we treat that trivia game as our paid date night each week
NTA. Some people give a cheater a second chance, others end the relationship. It’s a personal decision, whether it’s something you can forgive, whether you think the relationship is worth fighting for, etc. it sounds like the relationship wasn’t perfect before the cheating so that probably made her decision easier.
You know that when you start digging, you are going to find more dirt. This isn’t the first time he cheated, it’s just the first time he got caught.
She may have confessed to kissing, but I'm sure a lot more than that happened.
Good thing she doesn't have kids with the cheating Jack hole loser.
AND you know it wasn't "just a kiss". Multiply the actions confessed to by at least 10 - to get the true picture.
Sounds like there is way more going on, I think the kiss was the last straw
You don't kiss your wife's [family]. You don't kiss anyone but fam is the worst. Yes, I have made drunken mistakes but the only time I ever kiss cheated on a bf, I broke up the next day. Which he had no choice on since I had come home from a holiday to a hickey on his neck.
Why can't people just say "I'm heartbroken because my husband made out with my sister, I could really use some support and kind words" instead of pretending they actually wonder whether they're the AH, it's so fake.
Because when 3 people you love with all your heart stab you in the back some people will genuinely question if it's the people they loved whos wring or if it's them. Sometines its easier to say it's themselves that's wrong rather than those they loved.
Load More Replies...Neither ex nor sis can be trusted. They may never earn your trust back. So, don't be married to a man you can't trust. As for sister, she will always be your sister, but I bet you will never trust her again, either. I would not look at Dad's opinion too closely. At first blush, I think he went down that road and Mom has not yet fully forgiven him. You are gonna be ok!
Why did he want her home at night when he needed it for games and friends? To bring the beer and chips?
I have one word & two syllables for this... DI-VORCE. The "sister" decided to visit YOUR place of residence without YOUR knowledge & thought it would be perfectly fine to be around YOUR "husband" without YOUR presence (drinking heavily too). I beyond guarantee you if the shoe was on the other foot where it was just you & Danny during their day shift work schedule they'll be livid. The intentions between those two have most likely been going on for a while & you couldn't see any of it. I truly hope you don't stay with J*ck*ss & let "DeadToMe" out of your life forever. You can do so much better, hopefully with Danny by your side instead. 😁
I'd be more apt to forgive the sister than the husband. She did wrong, but she confessed unprompted. It would depend on the relationship whether or not I'd actually forgive her, but I definitely wouldn't forgive the husband.
Nonsense. The sister is MORE at fault initially, because she went over there when her sister was working and did NOT leave, creating opportunity, while keeping the secret for some time. Also, you do not just decide to tongue a relative - blood or not - just because you're drunk, unless you're a sociopath. There had to be some shady goings on - or flirtation prior, which is a NO-NO. Her motives for confessing to her sister are suspect as f**k - since she could be attempting sabotage. Also "forgiveness" does NOT mean reconciliation. It means not remaining burdened by the past deeds of the person; that includes sometimes going NO CONTACT if the trust is irrevocably broken. Certain actions, once done, cannot be undone. The fault is then EQUAL on both betrayers.
Load More Replies...***Please don’t throw away 13 years over a kiss***. She didn’t, Jerkass. You did.
I read once that when doing something you're not supposed to do, the first time is the most difficult (think the first time you were running late to work and sped like hell to mitigate it), every time after that is progressively easier. It's true, and it's the same with this mess. This was an affair he and the sister are only owning the make out part. She's entirely justified in her response (so is "Danny") because this guy is a worm.
Load More Replies...Um no, HE threw 13 years away over a kiss - but I'm a curious panda, why was OP working nights not a problem when he was a labourer but was a problem with his new job?
I will never understand why the victim is almost always expected to be "the bigger person" in these situations. They already ARE the bigger person; it's the cheater who has made themselves the lesser person. Also, there is no way you can convince me that this "indiscretion" was unplanned. The husband and sister are full-grown adults, not adolescents; this was not yet another remake of "The Blue Lagoon." Even if it were only kissing (riiiiiiiiight!), the trust is irreparably broken. OP is at least being honest about it, with those involved as well as with herself. Dad is already losing a son-in-law; unless he also wants to lose his daughter, he needs to support her or butt out.
Oo, loved your clarification on that. So right that they are already the bigger person. Believe me, always agrees but in that perception, much clearer argument.
Load More Replies...I can't be the only one who thinks the dirty couple is lying. They are trickle-truthing. They hoped if they said they were just 'kissing' that they would get forgiven. Both of them were so hell-bent on looking for trouble that I think they felt entitled enough and drunk enough to go farther and are now shocked that their spouses aren't indulging this tantrum-like stepping out. In 2 more weeks, one of the pair will be so frustrated that it will slip that a lot more happened.
I absolutely loathe when cheaters say it was a mistake. No, it's NOT just one mistake. It was a series of mistakes that culminated in the act. Jackass suddenly kissing her sister was a mistake. Sister not stopping Jackass immediately was another mistake. Jackass and sister not catching themselves and decided to make out was another big one.
This is just my opinion, but sister is the worst here because they are blood. There is no way on God's green earth I would let my sister's husband kiss me and just let that slide. I would have been on the phone the moment it happened. This is why people shouldn't drink. If all it takes to cheat on your wife is some alcohol, then don't drink. Dad needs to stay out of it. If he dislikes unpleasant things, then he needs to talk to his other daughter about causing unpleasant things. Husband needs to go somewhere else with his "throwing marriage away" bs. He's the one that did that.
Agree with so much you've written here; except Sis and Jackass are BOTH equally at fault. It would have taken action (to move away) by only ONE of them for this abomination to never have happened.
Load More Replies...If it was "just a kiss" then why did he feel the need to lie about it. Twice. And he prioritized his needs of hanging out with his friends over the marriage but she's the one "throwing away" the marriage? lmao so NTA
Apparently 13 years of marriage weren't of value to ex-husband, sister or father. So why should it matter to you?
of course husband and sister don't want OP to file for divorce! they cheated with each other and now everything's blowing up in their faces and they are trying to do damage control. Block them both OP, they absolutely do not care about you, only about the consequences. Why your father is supporting your sister I do not understand; maybe he's just afraid of all the drama this is causing in the family or she's told him an edited version that makes her look like the victim. Just block him too. But your mother and BIL are on your side, so there's that. Anyway, why would you want to continue with husband knowing you can't trust him? It looks like that, for you, the loss of trust is not something that you can live with. So don't. Put yourself first for once. File for divorce.
Sister was clearly looking for something. Glad she's giving them both the boot. "I miss you but I don't want to miss playing games so I wont inconvenience myself to be with you."
I work days. My wife works nights, traveling. She's away from home 3 nights of the week, and when she gets home she has to readjust her schedule to be on track with us and the kids. And we still make that work without me kissing strangers. It takes creativity from both parties to make that work. I found a bar that needed someone hosting trivia night one of her nights off. Now we treat that trivia game as our paid date night each week
NTA. Some people give a cheater a second chance, others end the relationship. It’s a personal decision, whether it’s something you can forgive, whether you think the relationship is worth fighting for, etc. it sounds like the relationship wasn’t perfect before the cheating so that probably made her decision easier.
You know that when you start digging, you are going to find more dirt. This isn’t the first time he cheated, it’s just the first time he got caught.
She may have confessed to kissing, but I'm sure a lot more than that happened.
Good thing she doesn't have kids with the cheating Jack hole loser.
AND you know it wasn't "just a kiss". Multiply the actions confessed to by at least 10 - to get the true picture.
Sounds like there is way more going on, I think the kiss was the last straw
You don't kiss your wife's [family]. You don't kiss anyone but fam is the worst. Yes, I have made drunken mistakes but the only time I ever kiss cheated on a bf, I broke up the next day. Which he had no choice on since I had come home from a holiday to a hickey on his neck.
Why can't people just say "I'm heartbroken because my husband made out with my sister, I could really use some support and kind words" instead of pretending they actually wonder whether they're the AH, it's so fake.
Because when 3 people you love with all your heart stab you in the back some people will genuinely question if it's the people they loved whos wring or if it's them. Sometines its easier to say it's themselves that's wrong rather than those they loved.
Load More Replies...Neither ex nor sis can be trusted. They may never earn your trust back. So, don't be married to a man you can't trust. As for sister, she will always be your sister, but I bet you will never trust her again, either. I would not look at Dad's opinion too closely. At first blush, I think he went down that road and Mom has not yet fully forgiven him. You are gonna be ok!
Why did he want her home at night when he needed it for games and friends? To bring the beer and chips?
I have one word & two syllables for this... DI-VORCE. The "sister" decided to visit YOUR place of residence without YOUR knowledge & thought it would be perfectly fine to be around YOUR "husband" without YOUR presence (drinking heavily too). I beyond guarantee you if the shoe was on the other foot where it was just you & Danny during their day shift work schedule they'll be livid. The intentions between those two have most likely been going on for a while & you couldn't see any of it. I truly hope you don't stay with J*ck*ss & let "DeadToMe" out of your life forever. You can do so much better, hopefully with Danny by your side instead. 😁
I'd be more apt to forgive the sister than the husband. She did wrong, but she confessed unprompted. It would depend on the relationship whether or not I'd actually forgive her, but I definitely wouldn't forgive the husband.
Nonsense. The sister is MORE at fault initially, because she went over there when her sister was working and did NOT leave, creating opportunity, while keeping the secret for some time. Also, you do not just decide to tongue a relative - blood or not - just because you're drunk, unless you're a sociopath. There had to be some shady goings on - or flirtation prior, which is a NO-NO. Her motives for confessing to her sister are suspect as f**k - since she could be attempting sabotage. Also "forgiveness" does NOT mean reconciliation. It means not remaining burdened by the past deeds of the person; that includes sometimes going NO CONTACT if the trust is irrevocably broken. Certain actions, once done, cannot be undone. The fault is then EQUAL on both betrayers.
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