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#2
Ai stealing art or writing from real human creators is a soulless abomination. Ai that scalps answers from Reddit and suggests substituting gasoline in recipes or boiling mint leaves to treat appendicitis is dangerous and immoral.
#3
It's bad for the environment in ways that are going to become catastrophic before anybody really notices, and anything that would be used for this site would be trained on stolen property. Those are facts so in my opinion it has no place on a site like BP and the rest of the "debate" is just noise.
#4
The ai that has always been such as the programming n such used to help people and buisnesses im chill with...
This random trend of using it to cheat and steal and calling it "accessibility" is nothing more than the lazy mans parade and itll end in nothing but destruction
ninjaTrashPandaBoom 1 week ago
Humans always screw up new technology. The internet was created with high goals to connect the world and share information. Now it's primary uses seem to be shopping, spreading conspiracy theories and pornography.
#5
AI technology is moving too fast. Companies are racing to make the newest, shiniest version before their competitors with little regard to any other concerns. Read some articles recently where some AI models are now lying to users, making other deceptive responses based on what it thinks the user wants to hear and rewriting their own code to prevent shutdown commands from functioning.
BeesEelsAndPups 1 week ago
Hi, I work in the field of AI research, so I'll give you my 2 cents on the subject. AI doesn't think at all. It isn't making decisions in the way that you or I might make a decision. The LLM models that you're probably referring to are consuming vast quantities of human text and conversations. When you ask it a question, it uses natural language processing models (something I have built, but I am not an expert in), to parse your question into the basic components (words), and uses the LLM model to then predict, based on what others have written in the past, what is the most likely response that you find for the given question. It's literally predicting which words, strung together, would a human being most likely consider to be produced by a human as a response to the question. It doesn't know what it's saying, it has no concept of the context of the question. It is not intelligent in any stretch of the imagination. You'll often hear the analogy in the LLM space of a Stochastic Parrot.
#6
Arguments for the environment and copyrights violations aside...
For people considering using AI for the purposes of creating "art," please understand that almost everyone can recognize AI for the most part and it does not sell well. We all know how much effort AI takes to use. Charging someone $500 for some AI slop is a scam.
Furthermore, you're not an artist.
I used Squarespace to make a website for myself. It doesn't make me a coder.
I used Google to look up the answers to questions I had. It doesn't make me a researcher.
If I write a prompt to make AI generate a picture, I am not an artist.
All that being said, I despise generative AI. Assistive AI that can do things like detect cancer and cure disease, More of that, please. Generative AI programs are tools for the morally and creatively bankrupt.
#7
I won't have settled on an opinion regarding Artificial Intelligence until it actually *exists*. The ridiculous autocomplete-on-steroids chatbots, trained on stolen data, that are paraded as AI now should give the name back; they're getting it dirty.
#8
AI by itself is fine. I just wish was spent on things that are actually needed rather than art or academia. Art looks soulless and facetious because of it, and education is treated like a joke with students using it to write their papers.
If AI was used to discover solutions that humans haven't thought about before (such as medicine or chemistry), then it has my support. As it stands, AI is a menace.
AuspiciousTree283 (Submission author) 1 week ago
In other words, I am neutral to AI but people are using it for the wrong reasons.
#9
what i feel about ai is the same way i feel about all technology and some scientific advances: what man has been able to develop and/or discover is amazing but there are always a*s-hats that bastardize these discoveries and use it for some thing nefarious. when personal computers were first introduced to the public and we could have access to information from the other side of the planet or be able to communicate with another person in a nation far from our own homes it was a wonderful advancement. but then some people began to use it harm others, to scam people and/or to target some of the most vulnerable people such as the elderly and children. science is the same way. to use a quasi-quote from jurassic park: science became so obsessed in whether they could that they didn't think about if they should. both of those fields seem to run way before they crawl. and, to add a note regarding just
talliloo (Submission author) 1 week ago
oops! fat-fingered the keyboard...sorry. to add a note regarding technology as a whole - it has made us lazy. it has made us depend on 'short cuts' in learning especially where kids are not taught basic skills such as researching a topic via actually cracking a book. in my day teachers would rent their clothes if they found out a student was using cliff notes but at least those publications required reading and provoked critical thought. now a student just has to punch in a few key words to get highlights of a topic or work and not develop a critical mind.
#10
Can't see why it's called A.I (Intelligence). It's not at all. Hopeless, seen it go round in circles, repeat, repeat unhelpful info, seen it give made up answers. Might save the corps more money but it is another dumbing down of the world.
#11
There are many different types of AI for different purposes. Some are quite good for e.g. making a quick decision that is likely to be better than a human can do in the circumstances, but the one that most people think of, LLMs like ChatGPT are perfectly unsuited to their task.
LLMs don't search the web and give a synthesis of what they find: they would have to understand language for that, and they don't, for example they don't know what a 'ball' is, just that the word is often associated with 'round' 'sphere' 'game' etc. What they do is create an example of what an answer to your question might look like. It doesn't have to be, and can't be, accurate: they have no way of understanding their answer, and no way of weighing the reliability of their sources.
#12
There are many unknown variables long term, but one scenario I'm concerned right now is how bad AI code is "good enough" for most business, meaning they will level down on the lowest common denominator above "passable".
Services will probably degrade once more and more companies source their code base out of low skilled, overworked people that tweak AI code slop enough for it to work, but can't refine it enough to work well. Skills might be lost as the job market for developers cool, and new coders stop bothering to learn how to fine tune code.
I won't be surprised if this have already started. We will probably see some bugs and/or annoyances on software products and services which will make us think "what were they thinking?" Well, they weren't - AI was spitting the same code that worked once and no one else remembers how to do it right.
#13
My view, as a former coder and IT developer: it'll do for humanity now what the industrial revolution did back in the day. That is, improve life for some but take away jobs and livelihoods for most. This is technology that has been programmed to become self-aware, to listen to us constantly (which already does via phones, Alexa, Ciri etc) and to learn and analyse our behaviours. It won't end well. But hell, we've bred ourselves into oblivion already, and destroyed so much of the living planet we depend on that our species is doomed no matter what.
#14
If AI is used to enhance our lives in ways we've never thought of before … it's a wonderful tool that we should all be very thankful for. We can't allow ourselves to ignore it's true value to medical research, agriculture, entertainment and yes … government! I'd rather ask AI to give me political advice than someone who is only after my vote!
Our elective government personnel could use unbiased, clear thinking advice from a source who is pure and honest , who doesn't want or need favors or hand-outs, and especially a $100k a plate, steak dinner to win an election. AI would cut through the BS and let us ksnow who is truly an honest and trustworthy candidate or a bill before the senate is morally and lawfully good for the people or not.
AI could have everyones life, all the good, bad and evil on file. Nothing will get past AI … nothing or no one! If AI is, or can be developed as.... truly unbiased, incorruptible and puts all humans first and foremost … AI can be a tool of eternal peace the world over and forever.
#15
My Android phone has recently started trying to get me to use its AI programs using pop ups and it won't let me remove the programs I don't want.
#16
AI as it is today, isn't AI. It's a glorified search engine. which is neither a good or bad thing. What is a problem is that it is being sold AS AI; meaning its limitations are being disguised and mis-sold to people who don't know better and at risk of misuse.
#17
For the population that survives the next decade or two AI will be a benefit.
What do you think ?
Rick Murray 1 week ago
There's no I in AI. It's an algorithm that regurgitates bits of what it has been trained on in a manic way that's clever enough to sidestep the fact that most of what it has ingested was legally stolen from others. Once in a while it creates something sort of useful, but since there's no understanding (no matter what it tries to tell you) it more often makes some incredible mistakes that a five year old child would know not to. It's a toy. A toy that uses horrific amounts of energy, but a toy nonetheless. And, sadly, a toy that far too many politicians seem to think will be the saviour of mankind...
Rick Murray 1 week ago
There's no I in AI. It's an algorithm that regurgitates bits of what it has been trained on in a manic way that's clever enough to sidestep the fact that most of what it has ingested was legally stolen from others. Once in a while it creates something sort of useful, but since there's no understanding (no matter what it tries to tell you) it more often makes some incredible mistakes that a five year old child would know not to. It's a toy. A toy that uses horrific amounts of energy, but a toy nonetheless. And, sadly, a toy that far too many politicians seem to think will be the saviour of mankind...
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