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Man Bans GF’s Religion In Their Home, She’s Confused About How To Proceed
Man Bans GF’s Religion In Their Home, She’s Confused About How To Proceed
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Man Bans GF’s Religion In Their Home, She’s Confused About How To Proceed

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Deciding to move in together is a big step. Two separate individuals merging their lives under one roof doesn’t always go smoothly. Throw in a difference in cleanliness, schedules, decor preferences and political or religious beliefs and there are bound to be a few bumps in the road. Many couples take a while to find their groove.

One woman’s excitement about moving in with her boyfriend of a year soon turned to dismay when he told her he wouldn’t allow any religious things in “his” new home. The girlfriend has a spiritual altar that she’s not willing to part with. But her Atheist partner wants her to sacrifice it in the name of love. Now, she’s not sure what to do. Bored Panda got some great advice from Rosalinda Randall, a sought-after etiquette and communications expert.

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    One woman is now questioning her relationship after her Atheist BF demanded she sacrifice her altar to stay with him

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    “Tommy needs to take a grown-up pill”: an expert weighs in

    When we reach out to renowned etiquette expert Rosalinda Randall for her opinion, she tells us that she knows a few couples who have successfully worked through similar issues. Randall believes it is possible for couples with opposing religious views to have a healthy and happy relationship.

    The secret is to discuss and agree on parameters and expectations, she tells Bored Panda. “For example, are they required to attend a holiday gathering? Will you be taking your dog to a ‘pet blessing?’ In other words, how will your beliefs or practices affect the other person? And, is either person willing to comprise or bend a little?” advised the expert.

    Randall adds that if you have strong beliefs, whether for or against any religion or spiritual practices, it would be wise to share those when the relationship begins to evolve from dating to ‘let’s-see-where-this goes.’

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    We asked her how best to bring up the subject of religion with a partner without offending them. “Don’t discuss your differences or point out their religious practices when you’re at a boiling point,” she cautioned. “Before stating reasons on why your beliefs make more sense, ask them why they believe what they do. Learn and understand before admonishing them.

    “Sometimes, with understanding, which does not equal agreeing with, comes acceptance; something you can both respect and live with,” says Randall.

    Bored Panda was curious to know what Randall would say to the girlfriend in this situation. “Sometimes we feel our gut alerting us as to how to proceed, but we often ignore it because our focus is on what could be or how it’ll magically work itself out,” she replied.

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     “You’ve invested one year in a relationship and what have you learned? That your religious beliefs are a part of who you are and wish to continue,” added the guru. “That you didn’t see the signs about how Tommy felt about your beliefs. That at this point, either Tommy is not the most suitable long-term partner for you and that you might consider renewing your lease to see how the relationship evolves. Are you willing to hide or stop practicing your religion for Tommy? That this stern request may be the first of other to come. A scary thought.”

    As for Tommy, Randall thinks he needs to man up. “Tommy needs to take a grown-up pill. Or find himself a girl who likes to be told what she can and cannot do in their rental. Especially without a ring on their fingers!” she exclaimed.

    “Tommy had one year to voice his opinion about her altar. Was he being polite because it wasn’t ‘their’ home?” continued Randall, adding that if being in the presence of the altar was offensive, he should have told her a long time ago.

    Randall told Bored Panda that Tommy doesn’t seem to practice the art of compromise, which is a necessary skill when two people are involved. “Why wait until she fell in love? Was Tommy so sure of her devotion thinking that she’d conform to all of his requests?”

    The expert said if the woman is still unsure about moving in with Tommy, she’d advise her to talk to a trusted source—whether it’s a clergy member, a parent, or a professional counselor. Randall adds that both partners are at fault for not having discussed their opinions in the year they were together.

    A newsflash for the Tommys out there,” said Randall in closing… “Having your name on a lease alongside your girlfriend’s name, does not make it solely ‘your house; your rules.'”

    Even some Atheists agreed that the boyfriend was out of line

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    The woman later revealed that her BF had read her post and they’d come to an agreement

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    Some felt the woman was still ignoring red flags

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    Ilona Baliūnaitė

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    Danish Susanne
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an ateist my immediate thought was, that your boyfriend is not, because to a real ateist, you altar would mean only a decoration in your home, and nothing else.

    zovjraar me
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes, i'm atheist as well, and thought, why does he care? i have little angel figurines because they're pretty. religious stuff is just decoration to me.

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    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Theres a difference between "Im an atheist because I dont believe in anything" versus "Im an atheist because I think religion is stupid". The latter group really cannot date anyone of faith

    PFD
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. And it's good to see that in this case, the person ended up listening, learning and changing their understanding.

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    Stannous Flouride
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was ready to criticize his "disrespecting his beliefs" line but fortunately I stuck with the whole thing and read the follow-up where he opened up to learning about her beliefs and being more tolerant.

    Funhog
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with Difficult_Falcon1022: "Feels more like he saw the door closing and he stuck his foot in it, but ok." BF's initial reaction was to call it his home, and not their home -- his views on this have not magically changed. It was a test and he started with a pretty big one. The smaller tests will persist and, over time, will ratchet up.

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    PeepPeep the duck
    Community Member
    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tommy needs to grow up, I’m from a family where I have Muslim aunts married to Christian (catholic) uncles and one Anglican uncle on my dad’s side married a Shintoist from Japan. If religion or politics define your relationships, you have alot of internal growing to do. I’m agnostic and date a Christian myself, it’s not a big deal.

    Paul C
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not a big deal, so long as it is not a big deal to both parties.

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    RedHairedDragon
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm born and raised as a christian, but when I moved away from home I became an atheist. To me, all forms of religious practice and symbols fills me with unease. I would not have been able to keep an altar in my home. But then again, active religious practice would have been a deal breaker for me in a relationship, so I probably wouldn't find myself in this position.

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Know thyself, as they say. Some people grew up with first hand negative experiences of religion.

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    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah, I do love a happy ending! Especially one that centres on someone educating themselves on a matter. My initial response was going to be that he was the one not respecting beliefs - hers - but now they are sorted. Yay!

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your bf only respects your choices when enough strangers on the internet do, it's not a good sign. Also, how can an atheist think an altar is creepy? Seems inconsistent with not believing it has power.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was raised that way, he now knows better. The internet can be more objective than your friends and family sometimes.

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's not an atheist, he's being controlling. I (atheist myself) understand that religion can get in the way, if it is a big part of the other's life, then there is just too much we don't have in common. But a small altar?

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine thinking there is only one religion in the world, like a lot of you in these comments are doing. Perhaps you too should read some more books, ask some more questions and be enlightened like the boyfriend was. Bring on the downvotes.

    G A
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I genuinely has not heard of people doing that or working with saints, and as the OP didn't explicitly say I asked for some advice. No presumption made, as I truly did not know the references. I am an atheist myself but am respectful of other's beliefs/non-beliefs.

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    G A
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would this be for Voodoo? Genuine question. I've never heard of working with Saints and I know it's a bit of a cross between Christian and African beliefs.

    Jumping Jellyfishes
    Community Member
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    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey! As a former Catholic, I can answer this one: "working with saints" is like asking some friends to pray for you, as saints may or may not have more pull with God. Saints are known in the Catholic community for interceding for people in need, depending on their specialty. My MIL used to tell me she needed to talk to "Tony" when she needed help finding something (St. Anthony, patron saint of lost items).

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    Danish Susanne
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an ateist my immediate thought was, that your boyfriend is not, because to a real ateist, you altar would mean only a decoration in your home, and nothing else.

    zovjraar me
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes, i'm atheist as well, and thought, why does he care? i have little angel figurines because they're pretty. religious stuff is just decoration to me.

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    Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Theres a difference between "Im an atheist because I dont believe in anything" versus "Im an atheist because I think religion is stupid". The latter group really cannot date anyone of faith

    PFD
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. And it's good to see that in this case, the person ended up listening, learning and changing their understanding.

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    Stannous Flouride
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was ready to criticize his "disrespecting his beliefs" line but fortunately I stuck with the whole thing and read the follow-up where he opened up to learning about her beliefs and being more tolerant.

    Funhog
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with Difficult_Falcon1022: "Feels more like he saw the door closing and he stuck his foot in it, but ok." BF's initial reaction was to call it his home, and not their home -- his views on this have not magically changed. It was a test and he started with a pretty big one. The smaller tests will persist and, over time, will ratchet up.

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    PeepPeep the duck
    Community Member
    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tommy needs to grow up, I’m from a family where I have Muslim aunts married to Christian (catholic) uncles and one Anglican uncle on my dad’s side married a Shintoist from Japan. If religion or politics define your relationships, you have alot of internal growing to do. I’m agnostic and date a Christian myself, it’s not a big deal.

    Paul C
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not a big deal, so long as it is not a big deal to both parties.

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    RedHairedDragon
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm born and raised as a christian, but when I moved away from home I became an atheist. To me, all forms of religious practice and symbols fills me with unease. I would not have been able to keep an altar in my home. But then again, active religious practice would have been a deal breaker for me in a relationship, so I probably wouldn't find myself in this position.

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Know thyself, as they say. Some people grew up with first hand negative experiences of religion.

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    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah, I do love a happy ending! Especially one that centres on someone educating themselves on a matter. My initial response was going to be that he was the one not respecting beliefs - hers - but now they are sorted. Yay!

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your bf only respects your choices when enough strangers on the internet do, it's not a good sign. Also, how can an atheist think an altar is creepy? Seems inconsistent with not believing it has power.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He was raised that way, he now knows better. The internet can be more objective than your friends and family sometimes.

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He's not an atheist, he's being controlling. I (atheist myself) understand that religion can get in the way, if it is a big part of the other's life, then there is just too much we don't have in common. But a small altar?

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine thinking there is only one religion in the world, like a lot of you in these comments are doing. Perhaps you too should read some more books, ask some more questions and be enlightened like the boyfriend was. Bring on the downvotes.

    G A
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I genuinely has not heard of people doing that or working with saints, and as the OP didn't explicitly say I asked for some advice. No presumption made, as I truly did not know the references. I am an atheist myself but am respectful of other's beliefs/non-beliefs.

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    G A
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would this be for Voodoo? Genuine question. I've never heard of working with Saints and I know it's a bit of a cross between Christian and African beliefs.

    Jumping Jellyfishes
    Community Member
    Premium
    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hey! As a former Catholic, I can answer this one: "working with saints" is like asking some friends to pray for you, as saints may or may not have more pull with God. Saints are known in the Catholic community for interceding for people in need, depending on their specialty. My MIL used to tell me she needed to talk to "Tony" when she needed help finding something (St. Anthony, patron saint of lost items).

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