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Family Vacation Ends On A Sour Note After Mom Gets Humbled For Her Parenting Style
British woman showing frustration outdoors, reacting to parenting lecture from French shop owner on holiday trip.

Family Vacation Ends On A Sour Note After Mom Gets Humbled For Her Parenting Style

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Unless it’s of a benevolent nature, prejudice is often ugly and potentially destructive. Having preconceived judgments about a person because of their race, religion, or where they came from only enforces division, which is never a good thing. 

This was an unfortunate experience a woman had while on vacation in France. Her visit to a local souvenir shop quickly turned unpleasant when the owner began throwing negative stereotypes at her and her children. 

She was understandably left stunned by the encounter, as she wondered whether the reputation of her people in other countries was warranted.

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    It all began during a visit to a local souvenir shop with her children

    British woman on holiday in France receiving a parenting lecture from a French shop owner during shopping trip.

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    Parenting advice clash between British woman and French shop owner during seaside holiday visit.

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    According to her, the owner didn’t like how the kids “left the place a mess”

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    Negative biases towards others may point to a person’s deep-seated trauma

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    The shop owner may have had her reasons for stereotyping the woman, which were likely formed from previous unpleasant experiences. However, it does not excuse her behavior at all. 

    According to the American Psychological Association, having negative biases toward other people could be a byproduct of post-traumatic stress disorder. The United States Department of Veterans Affairs also noted that racial trauma may, indeed, lead to PTSD, especially if the individual involved experienced some form of violence. 

    According to Very Well Mind, it may also be rooted in the general fear of anything unfamiliar. In most cases, it could be a bias against both a person’s physical appearance and cultural differences. 

    Dealing with a person who judges others based on their background is a losing battle. Trying to change their mind would be a futile effort. So, what would be the best way to handle a person with such prejudices? 

    The International Organization for Migration advises against responding to avoid giving the hateful person more fuel to spread their vitriol. This applies to both the online world and in real life. 

    The woman’s bewilderment at what happened was a natural response, considering it may have been a first-time experience for her. However, she did take the high road and handled the situation calmly, which was highly commendable of her.

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A stand doesn't fall over when a kid gently points at it and twisting the ears is not part of 'sitting with the stuffed rabbit on their lap'. The way she downplays all this makes me think the kids went through the store like a grabby-fingered hurricane.

    Ivona
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! They almost toppled over a delicate stand with a necklace on it, almost broke a delicate cup, and played with toys that don't belong to them. That speaks of poor manners and poor parenting on OP's part.

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    Nils Skirnir
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids shouldn’t be playing w/things they haven’t bought, unless they’re samples. I don’t know about England or France, but in the US toys are frequently destroyed by kids and unpaid for - it’s a good part of shrinkage. As far as being racist, aren’t France and England primarily the same race?

    Janissary35680
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pulling the "Racist" card really destroyed the OP's whole case in my opinion. The word has become virtually meaningless nowadays because of this sort of misuse.

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    Cee Cee
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP saw the shop contained valuable things but still allowed her kids to mess with items on display. Her post is desperately trying to exonerate her poor parenting by deflecting. Still I reckon she'll keep a much closer eye on her kids now.

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely. At 3 my mother wouldn't have let go of my hand. At 6 it was very much "you don't look with your fingers". And this woman honestly doesn't see what's wrong with small children sitting on chairs and playing with articles meant for sale?

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    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm French and I see all kinds of behaviours but in general the rule is children don't touch anything except if you buy it.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a big difference between you picking something up because you are considering buying it, and you letting your 3 year old maul something you have no intention of buying. Handcrafted fabric items will quickly get shopworn with handling, they're not child-proof. This was poor parenting and poor etiquette, and if you didn't pay for the soft toys, you are 100% in the wrong. Teach your kids "we look with our eyes, not our hands" or don't take them into any shop that doesn't have shopping carts.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've lived in France and the UK and when English people are on holiday, many of them go on holiday from being decent people. They littler, they let kids run riot and then suddenly scream at them, they park badly and take up several spaces, they don't follow skiing etiquette, they get teenager drunk and vomit and p**s in the streets before even 11 pm. This isn't how most behave at home or how they behave in a country they've emmigrated to, but it's a clear pattern when they holiday in the UK or in France. I've worked in tourism in Scotland and the consistently worst behaved tourists are English. I've never heard anything bad about German tourists though, I lived in the French Alps, not on the coast, but the only stereotype about Germans I heard was that a woman travelling alone was probably German. Maybe it's different on the coast.

    Lynchamigsakta
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone that worked summers in a Swedish hotel as a teenager I unfortunately have to agree. I don't want to bunch people together like this but the English tourists where usually awful to deal with. Germans where generally super polite and easy to please

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    Cathy Lemay
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so entitled. Those toys weren't your children's to m****t. They broke something that the shopkeepers depended on to earn a living. They paid money for the stock. Your children aren't going to learn respect. Who,pray tell, do you think you are?

    Multa Nocte
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have been living in France now for almost 4 years and I have observed a definite difference between French children and English children. I live in Nouvelle-Aquitaine (southwest France) and we have a lot of local English people and a lot of English tourists - definitely more English tourists than from any other country. We see LOADS of tourists here, especially in the summer, and French children are definitely better behaved than English children. However, having lived in the US for all of my life previously (and being a doctorate level clinical child psychologist) I can easily say that English children are generally better behaved than American children.

    Bartlet for world domination
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm glad you don't mention the Dutch; I sometimes think we are the Americans of Europe. I was in England this summer and the moment I got off the plane back home, someone was oblivious to their surroundings and in my way again. Wouldn't happen in England, wouldn't happen in France.

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    Undercover
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knowing small kids, i never let my niblings touch things I didn't intend to buy in stores. Their hands are always sticky, they drool or put objects in their mouths, they're clumsy and have bad impulse control. No, you don't leave kids alone somewhere to browse a store, especially when they sell delicate and expensive items.

    roddy
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you teach them well, they won't do it. My parents (maybe because they were both in the forces) trained me well. Even at three years old, I didn't touch things that didn't belong to me, and waited to be invited before I ate anything set out for our meal. Even toddlers are not stupid, they can understand basic concepts and develop patience and restraint.

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    Craig Reynolds
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As long as the parents are willing to take responsibility and PAY for anything their kids damage, I don't see a problem.

    Winnie the Moo
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom always said: kijken doen we niet met onze handen. Which translates to: we don’t look with our hands… I still don’t touch trinkets in shops, and teach my children the same. OP sounds very entitled…

    Crissy Newbury
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shop owner should have been pulled up on having soft toys with DANGEROUS bits of wood in their ears where three year olds can just pick them up. That bit horrified me.

    Jac Carr
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They broke the rabbits so they can't be sold. Yes, she's absolutely responsible for paying for me

    Southie
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perfect little darlings. I’m on shop keepers side

    roddy
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not racism to call out a parent for letting their kids play with things in a shop that clearly don't belong to them. This obviously was not a cheap toystore full of plastic things from China, but a place of antiques and artsy pieces. Mother should have taken the kids out as soon as the first one picked up a china teacup. And apologized. Kids can be taught not to handle things that don't belong to them. It's a puzzle why people train their dogs, but not kids, who are much smarter.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While I think the shopkeeper was a bit rude, I do understand it's probably from a place of frustration. And while OP doe s a good job of seeing the shopkeepers perspective, I feel like they might be downplaying how their kids were in the shop. Her perception, because she's obviously used to her own kids, maybe downplay how they actually act. She also doesnt mention that she paid for the bunnies her kids broke? Also, kids aren't a monolith in any country or society so the shopkeeper was out of line saying French children are all behaved.

    Janissary35680
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not so much poor parenting as poor judgement. Delicate cup? No. Necklace on flimsy stand? No. Grab kids by hand say in the best French I can muster, "Excuse me, I forgot something outside" and exit shop. It's also possible the shopkeeper may have been having a bad day but that seems to come with the territory.🤷

    Multa Nocte
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you treat French shopkeepers with respect, try to remember to greet shop owners when you enter a shop as is an integral part of the culture, keep your children under control, and use manners, you will rarely be treated poorly in a French shop. I am appalled watching tourists come into French shops and I am not even a shop owner.

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    Smeghead Tribble Down Under
    Community Member
    3 months ago

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    I bet not many kids in France have ''autism''. (Re: universal excuse for bad behaviour)

    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I misred your comment at first. Do you mean many people give " my child has autism" as an excuse for poor behavior?

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    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    3 months ago (edited)

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    I wouldn't let it bother me. The French give their babies watered down wine or brandy in their bottles to "shut them up". Bad parenting on your part or not, the French have no right to wag fingers at anyone

    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In what place do you live? Where exactly did you see that? Or is it a third-hand rumor you heard back in the days?

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    Wij
    Community Member
    3 months ago

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    The french are upset because you guys bonfired joan of arc

    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The French don't give a rat's hat about Jeanne d'Arc

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A stand doesn't fall over when a kid gently points at it and twisting the ears is not part of 'sitting with the stuffed rabbit on their lap'. The way she downplays all this makes me think the kids went through the store like a grabby-fingered hurricane.

    Ivona
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! They almost toppled over a delicate stand with a necklace on it, almost broke a delicate cup, and played with toys that don't belong to them. That speaks of poor manners and poor parenting on OP's part.

    Load More Replies...
    Nils Skirnir
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids shouldn’t be playing w/things they haven’t bought, unless they’re samples. I don’t know about England or France, but in the US toys are frequently destroyed by kids and unpaid for - it’s a good part of shrinkage. As far as being racist, aren’t France and England primarily the same race?

    Janissary35680
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pulling the "Racist" card really destroyed the OP's whole case in my opinion. The word has become virtually meaningless nowadays because of this sort of misuse.

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    Cee Cee
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP saw the shop contained valuable things but still allowed her kids to mess with items on display. Her post is desperately trying to exonerate her poor parenting by deflecting. Still I reckon she'll keep a much closer eye on her kids now.

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely. At 3 my mother wouldn't have let go of my hand. At 6 it was very much "you don't look with your fingers". And this woman honestly doesn't see what's wrong with small children sitting on chairs and playing with articles meant for sale?

    Load More Replies...
    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm French and I see all kinds of behaviours but in general the rule is children don't touch anything except if you buy it.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a big difference between you picking something up because you are considering buying it, and you letting your 3 year old maul something you have no intention of buying. Handcrafted fabric items will quickly get shopworn with handling, they're not child-proof. This was poor parenting and poor etiquette, and if you didn't pay for the soft toys, you are 100% in the wrong. Teach your kids "we look with our eyes, not our hands" or don't take them into any shop that doesn't have shopping carts.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've lived in France and the UK and when English people are on holiday, many of them go on holiday from being decent people. They littler, they let kids run riot and then suddenly scream at them, they park badly and take up several spaces, they don't follow skiing etiquette, they get teenager drunk and vomit and p**s in the streets before even 11 pm. This isn't how most behave at home or how they behave in a country they've emmigrated to, but it's a clear pattern when they holiday in the UK or in France. I've worked in tourism in Scotland and the consistently worst behaved tourists are English. I've never heard anything bad about German tourists though, I lived in the French Alps, not on the coast, but the only stereotype about Germans I heard was that a woman travelling alone was probably German. Maybe it's different on the coast.

    Lynchamigsakta
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone that worked summers in a Swedish hotel as a teenager I unfortunately have to agree. I don't want to bunch people together like this but the English tourists where usually awful to deal with. Germans where generally super polite and easy to please

    Load More Replies...
    Cathy Lemay
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so entitled. Those toys weren't your children's to m****t. They broke something that the shopkeepers depended on to earn a living. They paid money for the stock. Your children aren't going to learn respect. Who,pray tell, do you think you are?

    Multa Nocte
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have been living in France now for almost 4 years and I have observed a definite difference between French children and English children. I live in Nouvelle-Aquitaine (southwest France) and we have a lot of local English people and a lot of English tourists - definitely more English tourists than from any other country. We see LOADS of tourists here, especially in the summer, and French children are definitely better behaved than English children. However, having lived in the US for all of my life previously (and being a doctorate level clinical child psychologist) I can easily say that English children are generally better behaved than American children.

    Bartlet for world domination
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm glad you don't mention the Dutch; I sometimes think we are the Americans of Europe. I was in England this summer and the moment I got off the plane back home, someone was oblivious to their surroundings and in my way again. Wouldn't happen in England, wouldn't happen in France.

    Load More Replies...
    Undercover
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knowing small kids, i never let my niblings touch things I didn't intend to buy in stores. Their hands are always sticky, they drool or put objects in their mouths, they're clumsy and have bad impulse control. No, you don't leave kids alone somewhere to browse a store, especially when they sell delicate and expensive items.

    roddy
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you teach them well, they won't do it. My parents (maybe because they were both in the forces) trained me well. Even at three years old, I didn't touch things that didn't belong to me, and waited to be invited before I ate anything set out for our meal. Even toddlers are not stupid, they can understand basic concepts and develop patience and restraint.

    Load More Replies...
    Craig Reynolds
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As long as the parents are willing to take responsibility and PAY for anything their kids damage, I don't see a problem.

    Winnie the Moo
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom always said: kijken doen we niet met onze handen. Which translates to: we don’t look with our hands… I still don’t touch trinkets in shops, and teach my children the same. OP sounds very entitled…

    Crissy Newbury
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 week ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shop owner should have been pulled up on having soft toys with DANGEROUS bits of wood in their ears where three year olds can just pick them up. That bit horrified me.

    Jac Carr
    Community Member
    2 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They broke the rabbits so they can't be sold. Yes, she's absolutely responsible for paying for me

    Southie
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Perfect little darlings. I’m on shop keepers side

    roddy
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not racism to call out a parent for letting their kids play with things in a shop that clearly don't belong to them. This obviously was not a cheap toystore full of plastic things from China, but a place of antiques and artsy pieces. Mother should have taken the kids out as soon as the first one picked up a china teacup. And apologized. Kids can be taught not to handle things that don't belong to them. It's a puzzle why people train their dogs, but not kids, who are much smarter.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While I think the shopkeeper was a bit rude, I do understand it's probably from a place of frustration. And while OP doe s a good job of seeing the shopkeepers perspective, I feel like they might be downplaying how their kids were in the shop. Her perception, because she's obviously used to her own kids, maybe downplay how they actually act. She also doesnt mention that she paid for the bunnies her kids broke? Also, kids aren't a monolith in any country or society so the shopkeeper was out of line saying French children are all behaved.

    Janissary35680
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not so much poor parenting as poor judgement. Delicate cup? No. Necklace on flimsy stand? No. Grab kids by hand say in the best French I can muster, "Excuse me, I forgot something outside" and exit shop. It's also possible the shopkeeper may have been having a bad day but that seems to come with the territory.🤷

    Multa Nocte
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you treat French shopkeepers with respect, try to remember to greet shop owners when you enter a shop as is an integral part of the culture, keep your children under control, and use manners, you will rarely be treated poorly in a French shop. I am appalled watching tourists come into French shops and I am not even a shop owner.

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    Smeghead Tribble Down Under
    Community Member
    3 months ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    I bet not many kids in France have ''autism''. (Re: universal excuse for bad behaviour)

    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I misred your comment at first. Do you mean many people give " my child has autism" as an excuse for poor behavior?

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    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    3 months ago (edited)

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    I wouldn't let it bother me. The French give their babies watered down wine or brandy in their bottles to "shut them up". Bad parenting on your part or not, the French have no right to wag fingers at anyone

    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In what place do you live? Where exactly did you see that? Or is it a third-hand rumor you heard back in the days?

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    Wij
    Community Member
    3 months ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    The french are upset because you guys bonfired joan of arc

    Nadine Debard
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The French don't give a rat's hat about Jeanne d'Arc

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