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“She Was Raging”: Woman Says She’ll Join Family Vacation Only Without Cousin’s Little Kids, Gets Told Off By Relatives
“She Was Raging”: Woman Says She’ll Join Family Vacation Only Without Cousin’s Little Kids, Gets Told Off By Relatives
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“She Was Raging”: Woman Says She’ll Join Family Vacation Only Without Cousin’s Little Kids, Gets Told Off By Relatives

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Life is such an unpredictable thing that it can bring both pleasant and unpleasant surprises, and, what is most offensive, unpleasant ones usually happen when we have already made plans for ourselves, swung in the clouds and relaxed in anticipation of something good.

Well, here’s some further evidence, such as this story on the AITA Reddit community by user u/StrangeConcentrate22, about how her own relatives nearly ruined her plans for a perfect and long-awaited vacation. After all, what kind of rest and relaxation can we talk about when a couple of toddlers are traveling with you?

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    The author of the post was looking forward to her first vacation in six years, but her relatives ruined everything at the last moment

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    The older sister told her that she’d like to invite her cousin with two toddlers to join the family vacation

    "She Was Raging": Woman Says She'll Join Family Vacation Only Without Cousin's Little Kids, Gets Told Off By Relatives

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    "She Was Raging": Woman Says She'll Join Family Vacation Only Without Cousin's Little Kids, Gets Told Off By Relatives

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    The author confronted her sister, claiming that a trip with 2 kids is not the kind of vacation she was thinking about

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    The family drama ended with the sister giving the author the silent treatment over this situation

    So the Original Poster (OP) honestly admits that she has spent the last six years with little to no rest. If you can, of course, call short-term episodic breaks between several jobs, studying and teaching fitness classes as a side gig rest. Yes, the woman claims that even these short breaks can be counted on the fingers of one hand… And now, six years later, she has managed to find time for a full vacation.

    The OP’s parents and two older sisters suggested that the five of them go on a journey at the beginning of the year and, as the woman recalls, she spent the past months looking forward to a long-awaited vacation. And literally at the very last moment, one of the older sisters pitched a new idea – she said that she had invited her cousin with two small kids to join the trip.

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    Of course, you can perfectly understand the mother of two, 2 and 4 years old, who would also like to take them on a family trip. You can easily understand the older sister, who wanted to please her relative. But of course, it’s easiest to understand the author, who hasn’t been on a proper vacation in six years and, as she herself admits, “cannot imagine anything less relaxing than being on vacation with two toddlers.”

    In other words, the author of the post put a choice before her relatives – either her, or her cousin with her children. The OP’s mom, despite the fact that she understood her youngest daughter well, took a rather neutral position. But the older sister, on the contrary, threw a tantrum, not wanting to listen to any arguments. As a result, the sisters had a big fight and have not spoken to each other since. Needless to say, the family vacation turned out to be completely ruined.

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    In fact, a family trip with toddlers imposes many restrictions. Not only on the choice of your activities, but also on the choice of vacation spots too. And, of course, your time belongs not so much to you as to your children. “It stops being a vacation and becomes a trip,” New York Times columnist Heather Murphy quotes her friend after her first big family getaway.

    In any case, when planning a trip with kids, you should adhere to a whole series of rules – which means that after six years of hard work, the original poster would not have received her desired relaxation. But in the end, that’s all she wanted. “I should have realized early on our vacation wasn’t going to be the summertime-and-the-livin’-is-easy dream I was envisioning,” Particia Garcia, Vogue’s culture writer, recalls her first vacation with a child. But unlike all those moms, the OP doesn’t have her own kids – she just wanted to relax!

    And we must say that most people in the comments not only perfectly understand the original poster’s viewpoint, but also completely share it. According to the commenters, it’s a vacation and not their family holiday – and there is no guarantee that the author’s cousin will not try and guilt her to watch them so she can have a break and “enjoy her vacation too”. No, of course, people are well aware that the mom of 2 also wants to relax and unwind – but not at the expense of other relatives!

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    However, any trip with relatives can turn into a real tragicomedy – like, for example, what happened in this tale of ours about a guy who invited his entire extended family to Disney World – only to realize how petty and annoying they all were. And there are actually a huge number of such stories – perhaps you will also share one of them in the comments?

    Most people in the comments, however, sided with the author, stating that she did everything right

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    Hope Tirendi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Notice how the OP stated in one comment that the cousin can't even come unless the WHOLE family chips in and pays for her!!! Then her a*s and her brats stay home. How entitled do you need to be that your family owes you and your undisciplined brats a free vacation!?!

    Lokitti
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm definitely on the side of the OP here but I think you misunderstood, it was the sister who wanted the cousin and her kids to go, not the cousin herself. She likely knew nothing about it. Can't really call her entitled.

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    Casey McAlister
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The more people you take on vacation with you, the higher risk to get your vacation ruined. If you take kids, the risk is almost 100%.

    Marilyn Russell
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with every commenter who states good for her for setting her boundaries and knowing what she will and will put put up with. Something I wish I’d learned a long time ago myself and would have saved me a hell of a lot of heartache and headaches. Boy other people really like to throw a f**k right into our lives and plans sometimes, don’t they? Wonder where they get the sense of entitlement from?

    Felicia Marsin
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've discovered that sometimes some people have this sense of entitlement because nobody has dared say "no" to them. I've been the one to say that a couple of times, and the look on entitled one's face is priceless.

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    V
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look, a vacation with kids can be a lot of fun. But it is never relaxing, so if the main reason you are going on holiday is to relax it should be childfree.

    Allison B
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agree about it not being relaxing when kids are on vacation with you. However for me a vacation with kids sounds horrible not fun at all. But then I don't like kids. Being a 35 year old woman I've gotten s**t for that over the years

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    Ashlee H
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t think she’s the a*****e, but I do wonder if her sisters had children if she would have done the same. Also, I feel she could go and be child free and set boundaries. Just because you vacation together doesn’t mean you spend the whole time with them. Have them get their own room and make it clear you will not be changing the itinerary or watching any children.

    Lisa Westerfield
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Generally speaking there are two types of vacations; adult vacays and kid/family get-aways. Adults can have fun doing kid centered activities but that doesn't mean the opposite is true. What kid wants to trail along with parents during a winery tour? Sounds like the graduating woman wants a holiday of family laughter and closeness that is restorative with maybe some hardy conversations thrown in. Also it sounded like a vacation celebrating her recent achievements and future - not a yearly excursion. If older sister wants to hang with cousin and her troop she should either plan going on two holidays or simply hang with cousin because a single mother of two needs to have laughter and fun too. She definitely doesn't need to be vilified as I am seeing in some comments.

    VodkaInMySweetTea
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is such a great way of explaining it. I agree OP appears to have a particular type of trip in mind to celebrate her graduation. But almost all of these comments are like "yeah! f**k that single mom and her kids!" Which obviously is also not ok. It sounds like her sister is trying to do a really kind thing but is going about it the wrong way. And it seems like there must be better solutions.

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    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Robert Benchley said, "There are two levels of travel - first class and with children."

    Lizzie Lola
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even as a mom, I wouldn't DREAM of intruding on someone's vacay, ESPECIALLY if I couldn't cover my own costs, when my kids were little!

    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the sister wants her there so bad, SHE can watch them!!! See how fast her tune changes, lol.

    PeepPeep the duck
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love my nieces, but the 4am wake up calls and loud video game sounds at that hour are annoying and new to me as a childless person who works late nights in bars and restaurants. I’m so with her on this one 😆 vacation means sleeping in not waking up to toddlers being loud as fudge at the break of dawn. But if I had kids I would probably say the opposite 😂

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most (normal) people don't really enjoy other people's children. I have two myself, but as I used to joke "but I can beat mine. Other people tend to get really upset". And it sounds like OP knows the cousin well enough to know that she would get saddled babysitting. Go someplace by yourself and relax.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't want to go with your sister or cousin

    Judy Takács
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Def NTA. Its either a kids vacation or not. If it was planned as a no kids vacation, it should stay that way unless everyone wants to convert it to a kids vacation…without being pressured or guilted into it.

    Paulo Leitao
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    excuse me, what? school FULL time plus work FULL time plus a side gig ? how many hours are in this person's day, 36 ? school full time is at least 6 hours. work full time is 8 hours. plus comutes ? this is all very poorly explain or just bs.

    HC
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Immediate family does not include cousins. It especially does not include offspring of cousins. Nor does it include footing the bill for said family offshoots. Let the cousin and her kids show up at a reunion some time, debt-free. Or let the sister and the cousin have their own time together, regardless of the finances. I can't even imagine inviting outsiders and expecting everyone else to pay for them. Another entitled snot.

    VickyG
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. I would also not go on a trip with kids that need attending to. That's not a relaxing vacation. It's additional chore.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I offered to go to Disneyland with my brother's family to help out with the kids. They decided a FAMILY vacation was better and went without me. I know they had fun but when they got back they said that they'd wished I was there to give them a break. Next time.

    zena bena
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate kids they are noisy demanding and always there which is why i have none so i sure in the hell wouldnt go on a vacation with two toddlers no less.

    Phil Vaive
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like I'm the only one that thinks she's kind of the AH here, mostly because a lot of assumptions are being made. She didn't say the kids are brats or that the cousin always makes other people take care of them. She didn't say that the cousin is rude or mean or negligent. She didn't say the cousin was demanding everyone pay for her. She's just assuming that because the kids will be there, the vacation will be ruined. Every single negative thing she mentioned was an assumption. Further, the family never had an agreement that it was just their immediate family. The OP just mentioned that so far it was only them. Who is she to dictate who can and can't go on vacation?

    RoanTheMad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She stated in comments that her cousin definitely "wouldn't be looking after her kids" and that the kids are "just not well behaved" plus kind of s****y to plan a getaway that initially was adults only, and then suddenly add on two toddlers anyway. It completely changes plans. Also, "cousin can't come unless the whole family chips in for her".. i'm sorry, but if you can't pay for yourself, you stay tf at home. Family or not, no one owes you a holiday.

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    Hope Tirendi
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Notice how the OP stated in one comment that the cousin can't even come unless the WHOLE family chips in and pays for her!!! Then her a*s and her brats stay home. How entitled do you need to be that your family owes you and your undisciplined brats a free vacation!?!

    Lokitti
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm definitely on the side of the OP here but I think you misunderstood, it was the sister who wanted the cousin and her kids to go, not the cousin herself. She likely knew nothing about it. Can't really call her entitled.

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    Casey McAlister
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The more people you take on vacation with you, the higher risk to get your vacation ruined. If you take kids, the risk is almost 100%.

    Marilyn Russell
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with every commenter who states good for her for setting her boundaries and knowing what she will and will put put up with. Something I wish I’d learned a long time ago myself and would have saved me a hell of a lot of heartache and headaches. Boy other people really like to throw a f**k right into our lives and plans sometimes, don’t they? Wonder where they get the sense of entitlement from?

    Felicia Marsin
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've discovered that sometimes some people have this sense of entitlement because nobody has dared say "no" to them. I've been the one to say that a couple of times, and the look on entitled one's face is priceless.

    Load More Replies...
    V
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look, a vacation with kids can be a lot of fun. But it is never relaxing, so if the main reason you are going on holiday is to relax it should be childfree.

    Allison B
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agree about it not being relaxing when kids are on vacation with you. However for me a vacation with kids sounds horrible not fun at all. But then I don't like kids. Being a 35 year old woman I've gotten s**t for that over the years

    Load More Replies...
    Ashlee H
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t think she’s the a*****e, but I do wonder if her sisters had children if she would have done the same. Also, I feel she could go and be child free and set boundaries. Just because you vacation together doesn’t mean you spend the whole time with them. Have them get their own room and make it clear you will not be changing the itinerary or watching any children.

    Lisa Westerfield
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Generally speaking there are two types of vacations; adult vacays and kid/family get-aways. Adults can have fun doing kid centered activities but that doesn't mean the opposite is true. What kid wants to trail along with parents during a winery tour? Sounds like the graduating woman wants a holiday of family laughter and closeness that is restorative with maybe some hardy conversations thrown in. Also it sounded like a vacation celebrating her recent achievements and future - not a yearly excursion. If older sister wants to hang with cousin and her troop she should either plan going on two holidays or simply hang with cousin because a single mother of two needs to have laughter and fun too. She definitely doesn't need to be vilified as I am seeing in some comments.

    VodkaInMySweetTea
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is such a great way of explaining it. I agree OP appears to have a particular type of trip in mind to celebrate her graduation. But almost all of these comments are like "yeah! f**k that single mom and her kids!" Which obviously is also not ok. It sounds like her sister is trying to do a really kind thing but is going about it the wrong way. And it seems like there must be better solutions.

    Load More Replies...
    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Robert Benchley said, "There are two levels of travel - first class and with children."

    Lizzie Lola
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even as a mom, I wouldn't DREAM of intruding on someone's vacay, ESPECIALLY if I couldn't cover my own costs, when my kids were little!

    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the sister wants her there so bad, SHE can watch them!!! See how fast her tune changes, lol.

    PeepPeep the duck
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love my nieces, but the 4am wake up calls and loud video game sounds at that hour are annoying and new to me as a childless person who works late nights in bars and restaurants. I’m so with her on this one 😆 vacation means sleeping in not waking up to toddlers being loud as fudge at the break of dawn. But if I had kids I would probably say the opposite 😂

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most (normal) people don't really enjoy other people's children. I have two myself, but as I used to joke "but I can beat mine. Other people tend to get really upset". And it sounds like OP knows the cousin well enough to know that she would get saddled babysitting. Go someplace by yourself and relax.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't want to go with your sister or cousin

    Judy Takács
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Def NTA. Its either a kids vacation or not. If it was planned as a no kids vacation, it should stay that way unless everyone wants to convert it to a kids vacation…without being pressured or guilted into it.

    Paulo Leitao
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    excuse me, what? school FULL time plus work FULL time plus a side gig ? how many hours are in this person's day, 36 ? school full time is at least 6 hours. work full time is 8 hours. plus comutes ? this is all very poorly explain or just bs.

    HC
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Immediate family does not include cousins. It especially does not include offspring of cousins. Nor does it include footing the bill for said family offshoots. Let the cousin and her kids show up at a reunion some time, debt-free. Or let the sister and the cousin have their own time together, regardless of the finances. I can't even imagine inviting outsiders and expecting everyone else to pay for them. Another entitled snot.

    VickyG
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. I would also not go on a trip with kids that need attending to. That's not a relaxing vacation. It's additional chore.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I offered to go to Disneyland with my brother's family to help out with the kids. They decided a FAMILY vacation was better and went without me. I know they had fun but when they got back they said that they'd wished I was there to give them a break. Next time.

    zena bena
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate kids they are noisy demanding and always there which is why i have none so i sure in the hell wouldnt go on a vacation with two toddlers no less.

    Phil Vaive
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like I'm the only one that thinks she's kind of the AH here, mostly because a lot of assumptions are being made. She didn't say the kids are brats or that the cousin always makes other people take care of them. She didn't say that the cousin is rude or mean or negligent. She didn't say the cousin was demanding everyone pay for her. She's just assuming that because the kids will be there, the vacation will be ruined. Every single negative thing she mentioned was an assumption. Further, the family never had an agreement that it was just their immediate family. The OP just mentioned that so far it was only them. Who is she to dictate who can and can't go on vacation?

    RoanTheMad
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She stated in comments that her cousin definitely "wouldn't be looking after her kids" and that the kids are "just not well behaved" plus kind of s****y to plan a getaway that initially was adults only, and then suddenly add on two toddlers anyway. It completely changes plans. Also, "cousin can't come unless the whole family chips in for her".. i'm sorry, but if you can't pay for yourself, you stay tf at home. Family or not, no one owes you a holiday.

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