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‘Hardcore Vegan’ Thinks She Can Shame Everyone At BBQ, Gets A Reality Check That Drives Her Mad
‘Hardcore Vegan’ Thinks She Can Shame Everyone At BBQ, Gets A Reality Check That Drives Her Mad
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‘Hardcore Vegan’ Thinks She Can Shame Everyone At BBQ, Gets A Reality Check That Drives Her Mad

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Healthy eating and nutrition are very sensitive topics, and nearly everyone seems to have an opinion on them. If you want to change someone’s mind about embracing a healthier diet, you have to be respectful and see them as your equal. A holier-than-thou attitude and insults will only drive the other person away. Besides, nobody wants to be angrily talked at during a social event or family gathering.

Internet user u/IFeelBad95 asked the AITA online group for a verdict on whether they were in the wrong for leaving their vegan sister-in-law ‘Erin’ out of the family barbeque. The reason? The woman’s incredibly aggressive attitude and non-stop shaming of her relatives. Scroll down for the full story, two very important updates, and to see how the net reacted to the spot of family drama. Bored Panda has reached out to the author for comment, and we’ll update the article as soon as we hear back from them.

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    A person asked the internet whether they were wrong not to invite their relative to a barbeque due to their over-the-top and militant vegan beliefs

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    Text excerpt about family BBQ and Erin's absence, leading to her anger over Facebook photos.

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    The host shared more information about the family drama later

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    Before you start making radical changes to your diet, talk to a healthcare professional. And always be aware of what your body needs

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    There are lots of general health, diet, and fitness guidelines that you can (and should!) follow to live a better, longer, and higher-quality life. That being said, you also have to take into consideration that your body’s needs may not be quite the same as someone else’s.

    Different people have different lifestyles, allergies, genes, nutritional deficiencies, etc. Just like you wouldn’t encourage a person with lactose intolerance or a nut allergy to drink milk or eat peanuts, you wouldn’t push one particular diet on people who have very different relationships with exercise.

    Similarly, someone with a vitamin B12 or iron deficiency would focus on certain foods far more than an individual who has healthy levels of both in their system. Supplements work, but they have to be taken in conjunction with a balanced and nutritious diet. Sometimes, giving up red meat or seafood isn’t an option from a dietary perspective, even if you support veganism ethically.

    There is no one-size-fits-all approach, though it’s definitely a good idea to try to eat healthier, move more, stay hydrated, get plenty of sleep, and invest in your positive relationships.

    So, not only is it vital that you listen to what your body is telling you, but you also shouldn’t make any drastic changes in your lifestyle and diet without consulting your doctor or a health specialist. What changes you make and how quickly you can introduce them into your life will depend on your goals.

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    Introducing a few more greens, legumes, seafood, and fiber into your life while eating slightly less junk food is fairly easy to do. Meanwhile, moving past any deep-seated addictions to sugar, caffeine, processed foods, nicotine, and alcohol will require far more time and effort to make your healthier habits stick.

    And, in some more serious cases, you may need to make your lifestyle changes in sync with therapy so you can reframe your relationship with what you consume.

    Generally, omnivores are more accepting of vegans who avoid animal products due to to health concerns rather than ethical reasons

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    The psychology behind the relationships between vegans, omnivores, and vegetarians is fascinating. The BBC reports that many meat-eaters find explanations for why eating animals is ‘correct,’ and part of their chain of thought is that they view vegans in a negative light.

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    Psychologist Julia Minson from the University of Pennsylvania studied attitudes towards vegans. 45% of participants had something negative to say about vegans’ social characteristics and included descriptions using words like weird, arrogant, preachy, militant, uptight, stupid, and (somewhat bizarrely) sadistic.

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    Meanwhile, the BBC writes that non-meat-eaters tend to think they’re better than other people. For instance, vegetarians tend to rate other vegetarians as more virtuous than non-vegetarians. And both omnivores and vegetarians tend to rate vegetarians as more virtuous yet less masculine than omnivores.

    However, the relationship between vegans and vegetarians can be quite tense, too. The former can think that the latter group is hypocritical.

    Psychologist Benoit Monin from Stanford University said that vegetarians tend to be more threatened by vegans than non-vegetarians actually are. “They [vegetarians] agree that there is something wrong about raising animals for food, and now they’re faced with someone who’s putting their money where their mouth is, more than they do.”

    Omnivores tend to find ethical vegans and vegetarians more irritating than people who avoid animal products for health reasons. Meanwhile, faced with cognitive dissonance and discomfort, omnivores can react to pro-vegan adverts that focus on animal suffering by eating more meat to justify their actions and lifestyles.

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    Cognitive dissonance is what happens when someone has two incompatible views in their head (for instance, eating meat but also caring about animals) and acts in one way but not the other. It can make the present feel stressed, irritated, and unhappy, so they might lash out by blaming others.

    If your goal is to change someone’s perspective about food and health, you can’t act judgmental and holier-than-thou

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    That being said, you won’t change many people’s minds by being preachy or judging them. Any good diplomat knows that you have to create a genuine connection with the other person. Actively listen to them, consider their perspective, and be open to having an actual discussion with them.

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    If you blame someone for (not) eating meat or any other product, they’ll get defensive, ignore you, or lash out at you. What you want is a genuine dialogue, not a monologue where you show off how much ‘better’ and morally upstanding you are than the people you supposedly care about. Nobody likes a show-off.

    Then there’s the issue of timing. Shaming people about what they’re eating at a family barbeque is ridiculous. It’s a get-together that’s meant to bring people closer, not push them away. If you have genuinely good recommendations for how someone can live longer and feel healthier, you can always find a less public way of approaching those topics.

    And in many cases, actions speak far louder than words. If you want to show off the benefits of veganism, you can start to convince your family by cooking up some amazing dishes at the family barbeque. To be blunt, people love tasty food. If it’s nutritious on top of that, it’s a plus!

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    What are your thoughts about the entire family drama, dear Pandas? Have you ever not invited a relative or friend because they’re overly passionate about one cause or another? What do you think is a good way to broach the topic of healthier eating and living in the first place?

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    Has anyone, whether a passionate vegan or over-the-top carnivore, ever tried to browbeat you into changing your diet without caring what you think? Grab a snack or a hot beverage and tell us what you think and what you’ve experienced in the comments!

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    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    Jonas Grinevičius

    Jonas Grinevičius

    Writer, Senior Writer

    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real. At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design. In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle. I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    L. Murphy
    Community Member
    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a vegan and if I say another vegan act like this at a BBQ that they chose to attend, I would b***h slap her with a cutlet. The pic they used to depict this twat was perfect btw. Tattooed, ear gauges, butch haircut, and pierced looks like every other weirdo in Seattle. So attention seeking and insecure.

    Suzie
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone wants to be vegan, more power to them. I draw the line when they want to criticize everyone else for their dietary choices.

    Hell Iz
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been called a « stupid hypocrite” by vegans because I’m vegetarian. So yeah.

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    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So she ate a vegan patty that had been cooked on a BBQ grill? lol. Actually, I found a unicorn IRL. We hired this woman to be our toolroom crib manager at work. Took me a couple of weeks to notice she never ate animal products at lunch. So I did ask her if she was vegetarian and she replied with "Vegan." I was surprised because usually that's the first thing out of their mouth after you meet them. Nice girl, great crib manager.

    L. Murphy
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The nice vegans don't talk about their diet because we don't want to be lectured or asked dumb questions.

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    L. Murphy
    Community Member
    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am a vegan and if I say another vegan act like this at a BBQ that they chose to attend, I would b***h slap her with a cutlet. The pic they used to depict this twat was perfect btw. Tattooed, ear gauges, butch haircut, and pierced looks like every other weirdo in Seattle. So attention seeking and insecure.

    Suzie
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone wants to be vegan, more power to them. I draw the line when they want to criticize everyone else for their dietary choices.

    Hell Iz
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been called a « stupid hypocrite” by vegans because I’m vegetarian. So yeah.

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    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So she ate a vegan patty that had been cooked on a BBQ grill? lol. Actually, I found a unicorn IRL. We hired this woman to be our toolroom crib manager at work. Took me a couple of weeks to notice she never ate animal products at lunch. So I did ask her if she was vegetarian and she replied with "Vegan." I was surprised because usually that's the first thing out of their mouth after you meet them. Nice girl, great crib manager.

    L. Murphy
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The nice vegans don't talk about their diet because we don't want to be lectured or asked dumb questions.

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