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Worker Refuses To Donate Vacation Days To A Colleague With A Sick Daughter, Gets Hate From Entire Office, Wonders If He’s A Jerk
Worker Refuses To Donate Vacation Days To A Colleague With A Sick Daughter, Gets Hate From Entire Office, Wonders If He’s A Jerk
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Worker Refuses To Donate Vacation Days To A Colleague With A Sick Daughter, Gets Hate From Entire Office, Wonders If He’s A Jerk

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Office life is full of drama, and this story proves that you can become the villain even without doing anything.

A now-deleted Reddit user made a post on the subreddit ‘Am I the [Jerk]?‘ describing a particularly weird spot they ended up in.

Some time ago, one of their colleagues started asking around if somebody could “donate” their paid time off to her so she could attend to her sick daughter.

Eventually, word got out that our Redditor had a few days, and the woman confronted them. However, she received a negative reply, and the whole thing quickly escalated.

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    This person had saved up a few days off and was planning to spend them with their family

    Image credits: Jason Goodman (not the actual photo)

    But a coworker started demanding they “donate” their “savings”

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    Image credits: Sigmund (not the actual photo)

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    American workers are actually notorious for being workaholics. Since March of 2020, an overwhelming majority of U.S. employees have shortened, postponed, or canceled their vacation time, according to one survey of 2,000 people within the country.

    Another recent study found that 26% of its respondents had never taken two weeks of vacation at one time.

    And the Center for Economic and Policy Research has even gone so far as to call the U.S. the “No Vacation Nation.”

    However, leaving vacation time on the table is taking its toll on us. A recent study by the World Health Organization (WHO) found that 745,000 people died in 2016 from heart disease and stroke due to long hours and said the trend might worsen due to the Covid-19 pandemic. The research suggested that working 55 hours or more a week was associated with a 35% higher risk of stroke and a 17% higher risk of dying from heart disease than a workweek of 35 to 40 hours.

    So saying that our Redditor had “nothing to lose” by giving up their paid time off is actually simply not true.

    Not to mention that going on holiday makes you feel more present and stimulated. “When we travel, we are usually breaking our normal routine,” Richard Davidson, professor of psychology and psychiatry at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, and founder of the Center for Healthy Minds, told Forbes.

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    That means we break our autopilot cycle. “[The] decreased familiarity is an opportunity for most people to be more fully present, to really wake up,” he explained.

    According to other research, meditation and vacations appear to have overlapping effects—the report discovered that both meditation exercises and vacationing were associated with higher levels of well-being and increased mindfulness.

    So think twice the next time someone (or your own brain) tries to rationalize you out of getting some well-deserved rest!

    People think the original poster (OP) had every right to refuse

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    Marianne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The real problem here is that a mother has no possibility to care for her child other than begging for other people's well deserved vacation days. Here in Germany, you have unlimited sick days for yourself and a limited number to care for your children. If you go over that limit, your health insurance will come up for it.

    Lunar Rat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I work donating PTO is not permitted, which is as it should be, no risk of this kind of situation.

    Elizabeth Elliot
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem here is the stupid system which doesn't give parents time to look after sick kids.

    Jay Walsh
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a system, it's called FMLA, among others. The problem here is, she's a parent with bad planning and just "expects" everyone else to chip in to help her out. She is literally asking everyone to donate money to her, money they earned. Which if fine, but saying "no" should be equally fine. I have 4 kids, and working around a shedule to do a doctor's visit, school thing, or whatever is one thing. Literally asking for the equivalent of cash is another becuase my lack of planning. Make arrangements, save you PTO, have a GD emergency fund so you can take FMLA unpaid if needed. If your kid has these issues, you should of been preparing for this, this isn't sudden.Be freaking responsible for your children, choose to save for these unpaid days instead of the nails/hair/new iphone, nice car payment..... There are MANY options avaliable to her in the U.S, she is just a leech, and too lazy to exercise those options.

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    Julie
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "I got kids" argument pisses me off. Well yeah, I have a cat, so we are even!

    Ash
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same I have cats and dogs that needed attention and care too.

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    hot foot mask
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i wouldn't be surprised if the mom is milking her kid's condition to get days off. i don't see why psoriasis (a non-lifethreatening skin condition) would require her to use up all her sick days & garner enough sympathy for others to donate to her. her kid doesn't need an organ transplant. her kid doesn't have cancer. yeah psoriasis isn't pleasant, but it isn't a severe illness that requires round-the-clock care so based on the mother's entitled behavior & the nature of psoriasis as a condition i 100% believe she's duped her other coworkers into thinking her kid is wayyy sicker than they really are so they pity her & donate even though it isn't really necessary. the bullying goes farther than just op; i genuinely believe she's manipulated everyone to take advantage of kindness she's seen online (coworkers donating vacation days to someone going through chemo for example).

    Lydia Languish
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP is saying it’s psoriasis but could be something like psoriatic arthritis which is a pretty serious condition similar to rheumatoid arthritis. So the time off may be warranted. That being said the mother and coworkers are definitely out of line.

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    LEGOPernille
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do you accept donation as a solution for health-problems.... this is not normal. Bills, days off... everybody is almost forced to donate to make other survive... I don't understand the acceptance in this...

    RandomCitizen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It''s almost as if the people could get together and give a small amount of their wages to helpother people, and would be there if they also needed help. They could vote for an organisation that could administer a situation like this for everyone. In my country we call that "GOVERNMENT"

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    Tracy Wallick
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I f*****g detest this b******t of acting like people without kids are less deserving of time off than people who do have them. Additionally, it's on the employer to make allowances for time off for emergencies, not the other employees.

    RandomCitizen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem is that the bosses tried to play the workers against each other by publishing the PTO data (would be illegal in Europe) rather than deal with the issue themselves.

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    Judes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder what the father of the child is up to.

    Plenty Pineapples
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't you just love it when greedy, stingy management turn employees against each other instead of providing fair work conditions...

    Bobbi McGough Robert
    Community Member
    3 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    No company will offer unlimited paid leave. If they did their business wouldn't last very long.

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    Thundercuss
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wrong from beginning to end. The mom should NEVER have had access to how much PTO each employee had. The boss should have protected from that and not made a spreadsheet for all to see. You do not browbeat people into donating what they have earned. If they choose not to, that's where it ends. I would donate, if I could, to someone in crisis for whatever reason. I would not, however, continue to donate to someone who has a recurring reason to keep asking. There are solutions for situations like that which are not the responsibility of fellow employees to provide.

    Lainie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely, I don't generally understand why would anyone know how much PTO I have left, or don't have any. I don't care about others people's work days also. That concept seems pretty harmful to me because it gives other associates the right to talk about it between themselves, whether you're present or not. Very bad working atmosphere and therefore, worse results. In my artistic work environment, it would never pass as normal. Because it's not.

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    Marianne
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The real problem here is that a mother has no possibility to care for her child other than begging for other people's well deserved vacation days. Here in Germany, you have unlimited sick days for yourself and a limited number to care for your children. If you go over that limit, your health insurance will come up for it.

    Lunar Rat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I work donating PTO is not permitted, which is as it should be, no risk of this kind of situation.

    Elizabeth Elliot
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem here is the stupid system which doesn't give parents time to look after sick kids.

    Jay Walsh
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a system, it's called FMLA, among others. The problem here is, she's a parent with bad planning and just "expects" everyone else to chip in to help her out. She is literally asking everyone to donate money to her, money they earned. Which if fine, but saying "no" should be equally fine. I have 4 kids, and working around a shedule to do a doctor's visit, school thing, or whatever is one thing. Literally asking for the equivalent of cash is another becuase my lack of planning. Make arrangements, save you PTO, have a GD emergency fund so you can take FMLA unpaid if needed. If your kid has these issues, you should of been preparing for this, this isn't sudden.Be freaking responsible for your children, choose to save for these unpaid days instead of the nails/hair/new iphone, nice car payment..... There are MANY options avaliable to her in the U.S, she is just a leech, and too lazy to exercise those options.

    Load More Replies...
    Julie
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "I got kids" argument pisses me off. Well yeah, I have a cat, so we are even!

    Ash
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same I have cats and dogs that needed attention and care too.

    Load More Replies...
    hot foot mask
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i wouldn't be surprised if the mom is milking her kid's condition to get days off. i don't see why psoriasis (a non-lifethreatening skin condition) would require her to use up all her sick days & garner enough sympathy for others to donate to her. her kid doesn't need an organ transplant. her kid doesn't have cancer. yeah psoriasis isn't pleasant, but it isn't a severe illness that requires round-the-clock care so based on the mother's entitled behavior & the nature of psoriasis as a condition i 100% believe she's duped her other coworkers into thinking her kid is wayyy sicker than they really are so they pity her & donate even though it isn't really necessary. the bullying goes farther than just op; i genuinely believe she's manipulated everyone to take advantage of kindness she's seen online (coworkers donating vacation days to someone going through chemo for example).

    Lydia Languish
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP is saying it’s psoriasis but could be something like psoriatic arthritis which is a pretty serious condition similar to rheumatoid arthritis. So the time off may be warranted. That being said the mother and coworkers are definitely out of line.

    Load More Replies...
    LEGOPernille
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do you accept donation as a solution for health-problems.... this is not normal. Bills, days off... everybody is almost forced to donate to make other survive... I don't understand the acceptance in this...

    RandomCitizen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It''s almost as if the people could get together and give a small amount of their wages to helpother people, and would be there if they also needed help. They could vote for an organisation that could administer a situation like this for everyone. In my country we call that "GOVERNMENT"

    Load More Replies...
    Tracy Wallick
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I f*****g detest this b******t of acting like people without kids are less deserving of time off than people who do have them. Additionally, it's on the employer to make allowances for time off for emergencies, not the other employees.

    RandomCitizen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem is that the bosses tried to play the workers against each other by publishing the PTO data (would be illegal in Europe) rather than deal with the issue themselves.

    Load More Replies...
    Judes
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder what the father of the child is up to.

    Plenty Pineapples
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't you just love it when greedy, stingy management turn employees against each other instead of providing fair work conditions...

    Bobbi McGough Robert
    Community Member
    3 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    No company will offer unlimited paid leave. If they did their business wouldn't last very long.

    Load More Replies...
    Thundercuss
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wrong from beginning to end. The mom should NEVER have had access to how much PTO each employee had. The boss should have protected from that and not made a spreadsheet for all to see. You do not browbeat people into donating what they have earned. If they choose not to, that's where it ends. I would donate, if I could, to someone in crisis for whatever reason. I would not, however, continue to donate to someone who has a recurring reason to keep asking. There are solutions for situations like that which are not the responsibility of fellow employees to provide.

    Lainie
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely, I don't generally understand why would anyone know how much PTO I have left, or don't have any. I don't care about others people's work days also. That concept seems pretty harmful to me because it gives other associates the right to talk about it between themselves, whether you're present or not. Very bad working atmosphere and therefore, worse results. In my artistic work environment, it would never pass as normal. Because it's not.

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