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Guy Starts Mansplaining Periods To His Little Sister During Family Dinner, His Fiancée Asks Him A Question That Shuts Him Down
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Guy Starts Mansplaining Periods To His Little Sister During Family Dinner, His Fiancée Asks Him A Question That Shuts Him Down

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Reddit user u/BlueVariety was having dinner with her fiancé, his mom, and his little sister, and everything seemed fine but the conversation took an unexpected turn.

The guy started “mansplaining” periods and birth control even though he obviously didn’t fully understand what he was talking about, and put the entire table in an awkward situation.

u/BlueVariety couldn’t sit still and confronted him, but after everything was said and done, she started having doubts about the way she handled the situation, so she turned to the subreddit ‘Am I the [Jerk]?’ to ask what they think about the whole ordeal.

This family was having a nice dinner at a restaurant, but the guy started teaching his sister about menstruation

Image credits: Andrea Piacquadio (not the actual photo)

And he clearly didn’t know what he was talking about

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Image credits: Karolina Grabowska (not the actual photo)

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Image credits: BlueVariety

According to Merriam-Webster, mansplaining is the act of explaining something to a woman in a condescending way that assumes she has no knowledge about the topic.

Image credits: cottonbro studio (not the actual photo)

Author Kim Goodwin thinks that the “-splaining” part comes down to three factors:

  • Does the person want an explanation? Unsolicited explanations may be fine (within reason) if you’re, for example, someone’s teacher or manager, but explaining after they’ve declined your help is almost always disrespectful, and a normal conversation is a good place to start building the habit of consent.
  • Are you making bad assumptions about competence? Explaining things to knowledgeable people isn’t just a waste of time. Regardless of your intentions, you may undermine them by implying you don’t trust their competence or intelligence. Plus, you run the risk of undermining yourself by looking like you have an inflated opinion of your own knowledge.
  • How does bias affect your interpretation of the above? We are taught gender bias in behavior and communication from an early age, with boys and girls often being criticized and praised for different behaviors in school. We like to think we treat people fairly, but men often assume women are less competent, and white people are likely to assume darker skin equals lower intelligence.

When it comes to women’s bodies, men generally aren’t the best experts on the subject

Image credits: Andrea Piacquadio (not the actual photo)

A 2019 YouGov survey reveals a widespread lack of anatomical knowledge about female genitalia.

Respondents were shown a diagram of that part of the body and were asked to label it to the best of their abilities. The researchers accepted misspelled but obviously correct answers, and even euphemistic or descriptive responses when appropriate (e.g. ‘wee hole’ for urethra or ‘lips’ for labia).

Even so, half of the people surveyed could not identify or describe the function of the urethra (58%), labia (47%), or vagina (52%).

The men did worse, but breaking those results down by gender, we see that women could refresh their knowledge too. While six in ten men (59%) could not even label the vagina, about half of women (45%) weren’t able to do it either. Slightly more didn’t know what the urethra was (61% of men and 55% of women), and around half of both genders failed to label the labia (52% of men and 43% of women).

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YouGov also asked a more practical question: whether it’s necessary to take out a tampon to urinate.

Respondents had to choose which statement they thought was true in regards to whether a tampon: “used to soak up blood during a period” and “interferes with urination.”

Six in ten men (57%) and eight in ten women (82%) correctly identified that a tampon does not interfere with how someone urinates (because the blood comes from a different hole), but a total of one in five women (18%) agreed with statements saying the tampon would need to be replaced, though none of the given statements were true, or said they did not know. This total rises to 43% of men.

So it sounds like a lot of us should open up a biology book before giving any lectures.

After the story went viral, the original poster (OP) answered a few questions

And people shared their take on the situation

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francescalittman avatar
Zohar
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like an all around okay guy - he has a strong enough relationship with his sister to talk about periods. Sounds like he is a bit immature and is capable of growing. Could use resources, besides his girlfriend, to help him mature.

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Brocken Blue
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10 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, having trouble reading a room and over explaining things is something that i *still* struggle with, as a middle aged adult. Is it annoying? Probably. But it doesn’t mean the person is a lost cause.

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Leo Domitrix
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The worst of this was reading far enough to see her defending the guy with "Oh but he used to be worse'".

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Cathy Roberts
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look, nobody is perfect. I'm not, and I'd venture a guess that you're not either. The most we can ask from people is that they try to work on the things they can....and he's doing that. It's too easy to make black and white character judgments on the internet.

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Dizzie D
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I assume their Dad, Yellow, also has a say in the matter?

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Themis
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He tried to help his sister with things he saw that happened to women around him. Doctors often use the birth control solution first for period regulation. So what he said was not stupid. I see no mansplaining or problem with what he said. If men don’t care about women things they are bad, if they try to help they are bad too. At the end they are always bad. He should have been less loud that’s all. But if he was shut down with everything he said it can be understandable that he instinctively rose the volume.

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Dawnieangel76
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had 2 periods a month for 20+ years. Never found a doctor or a treatment that could explain and/or fix it. Nobody would let me have a hysterectomy either; I was told "get pregnant; it should reset your body". Yeah, that's great, it'll restart my bank account too! Finally, in my late 40's now, it's fading away. I actually didn't get one at all for like 2 months in a row.

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TheElderNom
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pill isn't the only thing that can regulate periods, any hormonal thing will. I have a little stick in my arm that I replace every three years.

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Nikki Sevven
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure, it's not at all embarrassing when you're 14 to have your 27yo uncle loudly talk about your period in a public place. WTactualF? ESH except for the teenager. Menstruation is hardly appropriate dinner conversation, and the two adult women there just let him go on and on being a mansplaining moron? You all suck.

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Pamela24
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The girl (Pink) started the conversation, though. If they're comfortable as a family talking about it during dinner, I don't see an issue, especially if it's been initiated by the person actually affected. Also - he's her brother, not her uncle. A much closer relationship. And the two adult women did stop the mansplainer. I wouldn't be okay talking about periods at the dinner table, but I'm still struggling with period shame. Sounds like you do too.

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Parmeisan
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know it wasn't meant this way, but I'd *like* to think that Agent Sparkles is suggesting that No Uterus No Opinion should be a general rule, like even for topics that have nothing whatsoever to do with women or gender. 😆

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Did I say that out loud?
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is hardly on a par with the genuine misogyny women face on a daily basis while trying to just go about their business. Maybe the Internet isn't the place for you.

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Zohar
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like an all around okay guy - he has a strong enough relationship with his sister to talk about periods. Sounds like he is a bit immature and is capable of growing. Could use resources, besides his girlfriend, to help him mature.

brockenblue avatar
Brocken Blue
Community Member
10 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, having trouble reading a room and over explaining things is something that i *still* struggle with, as a middle aged adult. Is it annoying? Probably. But it doesn’t mean the person is a lost cause.

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leodomitrix avatar
Leo Domitrix
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The worst of this was reading far enough to see her defending the guy with "Oh but he used to be worse'".

chroberts73 avatar
Cathy Roberts
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look, nobody is perfect. I'm not, and I'd venture a guess that you're not either. The most we can ask from people is that they try to work on the things they can....and he's doing that. It's too easy to make black and white character judgments on the internet.

Load More Replies...
dizzied avatar
Dizzie D
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I assume their Dad, Yellow, also has a say in the matter?

baidabaidaan avatar
Themis
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He tried to help his sister with things he saw that happened to women around him. Doctors often use the birth control solution first for period regulation. So what he said was not stupid. I see no mansplaining or problem with what he said. If men don’t care about women things they are bad, if they try to help they are bad too. At the end they are always bad. He should have been less loud that’s all. But if he was shut down with everything he said it can be understandable that he instinctively rose the volume.

dawnieangel76 avatar
Dawnieangel76
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had 2 periods a month for 20+ years. Never found a doctor or a treatment that could explain and/or fix it. Nobody would let me have a hysterectomy either; I was told "get pregnant; it should reset your body". Yeah, that's great, it'll restart my bank account too! Finally, in my late 40's now, it's fading away. I actually didn't get one at all for like 2 months in a row.

kesti-nielsen avatar
TheElderNom
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The pill isn't the only thing that can regulate periods, any hormonal thing will. I have a little stick in my arm that I replace every three years.

nikkisevven avatar
Nikki Sevven
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sure, it's not at all embarrassing when you're 14 to have your 27yo uncle loudly talk about your period in a public place. WTactualF? ESH except for the teenager. Menstruation is hardly appropriate dinner conversation, and the two adult women there just let him go on and on being a mansplaining moron? You all suck.

jitka-zachova avatar
Pamela24
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The girl (Pink) started the conversation, though. If they're comfortable as a family talking about it during dinner, I don't see an issue, especially if it's been initiated by the person actually affected. Also - he's her brother, not her uncle. A much closer relationship. And the two adult women did stop the mansplainer. I wouldn't be okay talking about periods at the dinner table, but I'm still struggling with period shame. Sounds like you do too.

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parmeisan avatar
Parmeisan
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know it wasn't meant this way, but I'd *like* to think that Agent Sparkles is suggesting that No Uterus No Opinion should be a general rule, like even for topics that have nothing whatsoever to do with women or gender. 😆

boatswain_bill avatar
andrew-w00197 avatar
Did I say that out loud?
Community Member
10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is hardly on a par with the genuine misogyny women face on a daily basis while trying to just go about their business. Maybe the Internet isn't the place for you.

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