“What Disgusting Advice Ended Up Being Actually Helpful?” (25 Answers)

As you seem to be to dense to trust any authority, training or guideline. You even make up that European authorities ask to leave helmets on, THEY DON'T! (link below) Hence: just put on your helmet, lie on your back and play unconscious : How good is your breathing? https://www.drk.de/hilfe-in-deutschland/erste-hilfe/verkehrsunfall/helm-abnehmen/ You need to stop peddling YOUR shiit.

You know how I know when someone realizes they lost the debate? They descend to personal insults while failing miserably to post the sources for their statements. Here are a handful of mine. Online first aid: The key advice is only remove the helmet if absolutely essential in order to maintain the person’s airway. Removing the helmet of someone who is unconscious is a two person job and should only be attempted if absolutely necessary in order to gain access to the person’s face and ensure their airway is clear. Theorytest.co.uk, You arrive at the scene of a motorcycle crash. The rider is injured. When should their helmet be removed? Correct answer: ONLY when it’s essential. https://www.resultsfirstaid.com: older style or ‘short’ helmets should not be removed, if CPR is necessary, full face helmets must be. https://emedicine.medscape.com: Contraindications, “ Healthcare providers with minimal knowledge of helmet removal should use caution if attempting to remove a helmet.” My issue with your $hit is you’re jumping straight to removing a helmet when all the advice says don’t unless you have verified that the person isn’t breathing and that you don’t have to remove a crash helmet that isn’t full face. Again, I’m a rider… I have literal skin in the game. BTW Ich spreche Deutsch. The article you referenced as supporting your argument, clearly states there are multiple types of crash helmet, only remove those that are full face if necessary (recommended as a two person job with instructions for TWO people on how to remove as safely as possible).

Did you do the test I told you? How was your breathing? (whenever that question comes up in a first aid course they ask a person to do that test)

I don’t need to redo the test, it gives an idea of what it’s like to experience a significant bike accident. Come back when you have been the person lying on the ground wondering if you’re going to survive, never mind retain control of your limbs, retain all your limbs. I’ve been there, can you say the same?

How does that experience help you to read a source and understand it's content? Because that's what's needed here. (And apparently you weren't unconscious which is the whole point of removing a helmet) Can you please provide a single link that supports your opinion? Your links were general links to websites and not to the content supporting your opinion. Due to my job I'm getting trained in first aid yearly. Every year this question pops up and every one of the dozen+ trainers said the same. Several have asked the person who asked to do the test I told you. But you are unwilling to take it as the result could go against your personal opinion. I'm defending the current consensus on the matter and yes if you want to make it simple you point at the red fuccing cross as reference for first aid.

How odd. Being involved in a bike accident doesn’t automatically confer superhuman comprehension but it does highlight the difference between theory and reality. I’m not willing to grant access to my personal hospital records so you’re going to have to deal with information that matches the energy of your own public data. I don’t care what you say you have “learned” I know from personal experience I’m alive and in full possession of my limbs because someone more knowledgeable than you chose to let my crash helmet do its job.

I posted direct links to the sources directly supporting of what I'm writing here. You posted general links that don't say anything about the matter if you open them. The things you claim to have copied from your sources also prove the point I'm making: if unconscious, remove the helmet. (what you "copied" mostly sais exactly that, but to do it carefully, or to consider if it's necessary if it's not a proper full helmet, do it with another person helping,.. But the advice remains)

You posted one link to a German source and insist the headline supports your position, whereas the article provides more details on when and why it’s appropriate. You dismiss my sources as “general” even though one of them is explicitly targeted at emergency responders. I will contradict your stance of removing a crash helmet to check vitals until my last breath, for the simple reason that my life and ability to function depend on people understanding that removing a crash helmet is 100% a last resort when one has done everything they can to confirm the airway is compromised &/or CPR is necessary. The odd thing in our exchanges is I’ve come to the conclusion you want people to survive as intact as possible, as I do. You just aren’t willing to step away from your original comment and acknowledge the complexity of figuring out when removing a crash helmet is the right thing to do.

On the link for THE German authority for first aid you find it VERY clearly written at the very top in bold: "If a motorcyclist is unconscious, it is necessary to remove the helmet, as only then can they be positioned properly (if breathing is present: stable lateral position)."

Coulda sworn I mentioned the headline (very clearly written in bold) was followed by details on when and why it’s appropriate to remove a FULL FACE crash helmet. Seriously, I wear a full face. My life and body functions literally depend on first responders doing all they can to verify life and breathing before taking my crash helmet off.

So you touch the counter and the cream container? Where the mist has settled? And then rub the cream on your body? Yummy.