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“Rich People, Don’t Spoil Your Kids”: Heated Discussion Starts After Dad Leaves His Kids In Coach While Flying First Class
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“Rich People, Don’t Spoil Your Kids”: Heated Discussion Starts After Dad Leaves His Kids In Coach While Flying First Class

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Flying with kids is a whole can of worms, but most people tend to talk about crying, keeping them entertained, and the general chaos they can create. Less often, does the discussion turn to the costs.

A dad filmed a TikTok that ended up going pretty viral as its contents split a lot of opinions online. In the clip, he leaves his kids in economy class (with a nanny) and heads off to fly first class, as he believes that one shouldn’t spoil children. The comments section was rife with discussion, as some agreed with this argument and others thought he was being unnecessarily cruel to his kids.
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Flying first class is comfortable, but is this luxury wasted on younger children?

Image credits: samuel_leeds

A dad certainly thought so, when he filmed a TikTok where he left his kids in economy class while he flew at the front of the plane

Image credits: samuel_leeds

Image credits: samuel_leeds

Image credits: samuel_leeds

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Image credits: samuel_leeds

Image credits: samuel_leeds

Image credits: samuel_leeds

You can watch the full clip here

@samuel_leeds Don’t worry, they were sat with their nanny ❤️ dint spoil your children #samuelleeds #richpeopleproblems #spoiledchild ♬ original sound – Samuel Leeds

When one sits down and thinks about it, a young child really will not understand the purported benefits of flying first class

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Image credits: Hanson Lu (not the actual photo)

Ultimately, it’s the parents’ children and the parents’ money, they are free to do whatever they want within the confines of the law. While some commenters decry “leaving the kids alone,” they are with a nanny, within easy reach, and do not seem unhappy at the whole situation. And if we step back and analyze Dad’s logic, it makes financial sense. First class obviously boasts better seats, privacy, and more legroom. Children, notoriously, are quite a bit smaller than adults, so even the minuscule seating a budget airline might provide would still be sufficient for someone half the size of an adult.

Let’s also go through the other benefits of first class. Better food and drink are always appreciated, but not by children or even some adults for that matter. It’s pretty unlikely that samuel_leeds kids were going to use the complimentary champagne or wine enjoyed by those at the front of the plane. Similarly, some kids have a curious palate, but most will find the “nicer” food uninspiring. Financially it also doesn’t make that much sense, as the parents would have to purchase two more first-class seats (or three if they include the nanny) for passengers who do not seem to care very much about where they are sitting.

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However, his intention to not spoil his kids may have gone right over their heads

Image credits: Anna Shvets (not the actual photo)

The one area where the dad may not meet his goals is in educating his kids. He states that he doesn’t want to spoil them, which is a noble cause, but it’s questionable if the kids will actually learn a lesson here. After all, they are already being taken care of by a nanny and are traveling, putting them financially ahead of most families. The excitement of flying and their seemingly young age all indicate that any intended lessons go right over their heads, like most things for someone that small. Psychologists also believe that the main way parents can combat a spoiled child is by modifying their behavior. A tantrum or moment of impetus is a teaching opportunity, but the kids in the video seem well-behaved and content.

This does indicate that samuel_leeds, his wife, and their nanny have all done the right things off-screen to keep the kids grounded, just this specific act is likely not going to contribute much. After all, spoiling a child normally happens when they constantly get whatever they demand, but there is no indication that they actually want to be in first class or even recognize that it’s something particularly desirable. Many comments seemed unnecessarily hostile, assuming a lot about the video’s creator and his parenting style. But once the knee-jerk reaction to “leaving the kids” is set aside, his and his wife’s decision makes total sense.

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Some viewers agreed with the logic, after all, kids don’t need lots of legroom and complimentary champagne

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While others thought it wasn’t actually teaching the kids anything

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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dad and his wife put me and my siblings on a flight without them. I was 13, they were 11, 7 and 6. My dad was in the navy and the navy was OK with putting 4 children unaccompanied on a commercial flight. So, we're flying from LA to Chicago and about half way there, people start getting mad that my 6 year old brother is kicking seats, running up and down the isle with my 7 year old sister joining him while laughing and yelling. The flight crew is pretty irritated too so one of them says loudly that's their oldest sister over there (pointing to my seat). The last half of the flight, I had adults keep asking me why I couldn't keep my siblings under control. Fun trip. Parents need to supervise their kids plus nowadays, it's getting kinda scary to fly with fights breaking out among passengers not to mention the creeps that would be delighted to sit next to unaccompanied little children.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's crappy that you got stuck with the role of responsible adult - you were a 13-year-old expected to have authority over your rambunctious siblings. I hope your parents didn't repeat the experiment. In the above case, the couple delegated to their nanny, who has the maturity and experience (and likely the training) to deal with young children.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i don't really mind if they wanted some private time. they had a nanny, so it's basically the equivalent of going on a date and leaving them with a sitter, but they're even closer if they're needed what i don't get is the idea that it teaches a lesson. like unless the kids were throwing tantrums because they demanded stuff and were acting spoiled, what lesson are they supposed to learn/puzzle out from all this? by all means, you work hard and deserve a treat and some quiet, upscale time together, but you're not the morality teacher you think you are.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dunno, I kinda like being with my kids and holidays are family time so I'd want to be with them even more so for the whole experience. Yeah it's nice to get a break once in a while but I wouldn't ever plan a family event with the express purpose of being apart. I mean, why have a family if you want to act like you don't? I'm fully accepting that I could be the odd one out here, but I'd feel awful sending the message that I deserve better treatment than my children or that I don't want to be with them - it'd sit in my separate seat away from them wishing they were with me so I guess it defeats the purpose, I'd be popping back every few mins to see them even if they were being looked after by someone else. I like their company, I have fun with them. Each to their own but definitely not something I would do because I wouldn't want to.

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Kina Mathis
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I agree my parents did not even let me out of their sight at that age especially on vacations. Everything was done together as a family and my parents and I had a blast together. Some people actually like their kids and love spending time with them. I wonder if they let them stay in a nice hotel with them or did they leave their kids at a roach motel as well 🙄

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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My dad and his wife put me and my siblings on a flight without them. I was 13, they were 11, 7 and 6. My dad was in the navy and the navy was OK with putting 4 children unaccompanied on a commercial flight. So, we're flying from LA to Chicago and about half way there, people start getting mad that my 6 year old brother is kicking seats, running up and down the isle with my 7 year old sister joining him while laughing and yelling. The flight crew is pretty irritated too so one of them says loudly that's their oldest sister over there (pointing to my seat). The last half of the flight, I had adults keep asking me why I couldn't keep my siblings under control. Fun trip. Parents need to supervise their kids plus nowadays, it's getting kinda scary to fly with fights breaking out among passengers not to mention the creeps that would be delighted to sit next to unaccompanied little children.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's crappy that you got stuck with the role of responsible adult - you were a 13-year-old expected to have authority over your rambunctious siblings. I hope your parents didn't repeat the experiment. In the above case, the couple delegated to their nanny, who has the maturity and experience (and likely the training) to deal with young children.

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athornedrose
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i don't really mind if they wanted some private time. they had a nanny, so it's basically the equivalent of going on a date and leaving them with a sitter, but they're even closer if they're needed what i don't get is the idea that it teaches a lesson. like unless the kids were throwing tantrums because they demanded stuff and were acting spoiled, what lesson are they supposed to learn/puzzle out from all this? by all means, you work hard and deserve a treat and some quiet, upscale time together, but you're not the morality teacher you think you are.

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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dunno, I kinda like being with my kids and holidays are family time so I'd want to be with them even more so for the whole experience. Yeah it's nice to get a break once in a while but I wouldn't ever plan a family event with the express purpose of being apart. I mean, why have a family if you want to act like you don't? I'm fully accepting that I could be the odd one out here, but I'd feel awful sending the message that I deserve better treatment than my children or that I don't want to be with them - it'd sit in my separate seat away from them wishing they were with me so I guess it defeats the purpose, I'd be popping back every few mins to see them even if they were being looked after by someone else. I like their company, I have fun with them. Each to their own but definitely not something I would do because I wouldn't want to.

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Kina Mathis
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah I agree my parents did not even let me out of their sight at that age especially on vacations. Everything was done together as a family and my parents and I had a blast together. Some people actually like their kids and love spending time with them. I wonder if they let them stay in a nice hotel with them or did they leave their kids at a roach motel as well 🙄

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