Pumpkin Farm Kicks Out Karen Who Brought A Snake To Its Territory, She Threatens To Go To The Press, Gets Shut Down By The Owner
Sometimes common knowledge isn’t that common. Recently, one woman thought it was totally OK if her child brought his snake to New York’s largest fall festival at The Great Pumpkin Farm. So when security escorted the family off the territory, she couldn’t understand why: after all, the sign said “no dogs.”
Looking for answers, the lady contacted the establishment on the internet. What followed next turned out to be a conversation you wouldn’t dream of having even if you were a seasoned pro in customer service. Here’s how it went down.
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It would be interesting to know what snake the family brought as many of these reptiles are illegal in New York State.
Plus, it could’ve been kidnapped from its natural habitat.
Poaching for the exotic pet trade is devastating animal populations worldwide. For example, it has decimated a number of Madagascar’s prized radiated tortoises and led to the endangered status of African gray parrots, birds known for their impressive vocal skills.
Many animals suffer during their capture and transportation and even if they make it to their final destination alive, they are often distressed—unable to eat, move, and behave as they would in the wild.
The exotic pet business also affects humans and animals which aren’t involved in the trade directly—wild animals have the potential to attack their owners or spread diseases, such as Ebola and SARS.
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So exotic animals are dangerous not only to the individuals who possess them, but also to their neighbors, and to the community at large.
There have been reports of many incidents across the US where exotic animals held in private attacked humans and other animals, escaped from their enclosures, and freely roamed around. Children and adults have been mauled by tigers, bitten by monkeys, and asphyxiated by snakes.
In fact, an outbreak of exotic Newcastle disease (END), which resulted in the deaths of 12 million birds in the U.S. in the 1970s, was traced to parrots smuggled from South America.
Although many exotic animals are territorial and require group interactions, people often keep them in isolation, forcing the critters to spend time in a small enclosure unable to roam and express natural behaviors. These animals can be time bombs waiting to explode.
I’m not saying this particular snake was. But no wonder people and businesses don’t want to take any risks. Especially when they don’t know what they’re dealing with.
Here’s what people have been saying about the whole ordeal
I think this was the same place that kicked me out for bringing my pet hippopotamus. So. Rude!
Is this where we are now, that people are so stupid they need every unsuitable item spelling out to them? What next? Will places have to specify "No dogs. No snakes. No bombs or bomb making equipment. No nuclear reactors."
Yes Karen, we are all glued to the news outlet awaiting your wonderful sob story. NOT
It would have to be a slow news day in hell before some news outlet would bother to pick up this dumbass story
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This person is the reason why frozen pizza boxes have to say "cook before eating" and why bleach containers say "do not drink"
Ok, my mom has a legit fear of snakes to the point that I have to walk ahead in pet stores and warn her if any are in stock (and she’ll still start panicking!). Can’t even imagine how she would react to seeing one in a crowded area like that. Did these people not think that maybe a large percentage of other people might find Mr. Squiggles terrifying af?
One of my friends is afraid of snakes - not as much as your mom, but they do scare her. On one our walks, I happily yelled out, "A snake!" then had to assure her, "Don't worry it's gone." I've also gotten between a friendly dog (happy to get my attention) and a hiker who was afraid of them (grateful that the dog was distracted by me). On the other hand, I'd be very happy if someone else shooed away wasps for me.
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Is it just me that hate the phrase "building/making memories"? You can't fabricate a happy memory, something either stays with you or it doesn't and the weirdest things stick in your head. Your parents may think you remember a lovely day out you had when you were 4 years old but all you can remember is you dropped your ice cream and Daddy tripped over a step and said a naughty word. That's it. That's your memory that you "built"
Maybe she was trying to build memories for the snake and the kids were just tagging along.
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I was in part in San Francisco, and one guy was sitting on a bench in the sun, enjoying the day... with his two-foot-long pet iguana perched on his shoulder. I thought it was utterly charming, and the iguana looked as relaxed and happy as its human.
I've seen interesting pets on the street. I would have been interested in the snake, but I'm also aware that some people fear them. A business has the right to only allow trained assistants for the disabled.
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I mean, I met a lady who was on a walk with her snake (it sat on her shoulders) and it was very pleasant encounter. Luckily, noone there minded snakes. And it was a public park and there was a lot of space to avoid each other if needed. Like, it's cool to be able to bring your pets along, but use common sense.
I'm quite sure that no business has a sign saying that lions, tigers and panters are not allowed on the premises. Sometimes you do not have to explain every detail. Not even for entitled idiots who obviously are too stupid to have any animal in their house.
What you're saying is I should leave my crocodile home. A sad state of affairs!
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It's because of people like this that those stupid Terms&Conditions documents are 20 pages long...
I could buy their having an emotionally supportive python. After all, they _are_ known for their hugs.
This lady is an idiot. There aren't any signs at McDonalds that say no crapping at the entrance either. And yet, you don't see people taking their dumps nilly-w***y all over the place now now do you?
Whaddya mean I can't bring my pet Anaconda? I know he's 24 feet long, but he's a gentle giant. He only squeezes the life out of neighborhood pets and, since there are no dogs allowed, we thought it would be okay.
I'm confused. I know very little about snakes or farms - why is being at a pumpkin farm dangerous to a snake? And did people complain because of that danger to a poor animal or do people simply dislike snakes over there?..
Snakes are able to get into almost any hole and if it was a good-sized snake, it could implode (Not many people know this word so I'm clarifying, it's an explosion inwards) a pumpkin or swallow one whole.
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Gnomes had a built-in resistance to rules. This didn’t just apply to the law, but to all the invisible rules that most people obeyed unthinkingly, like “Do not attempt to eat this giraffe” - Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Element.
but how can you take a snake out with you though?? 😦 wouldn’t it just slither away you cant put a lead on it???
Only in months with no K in them. Which means that your snake can enjoy a visit to a pumpkin farm in Germany, Austria,and Luxembourg in Oktober.
Load More Replies... What even is the point of having a pet snake? Ok, I'm not to judge, as long as the snake is fine and well cared for, it's kinda fine with me, fine enough for now for sure. But, why would one bring a snake to such a fair? To brag, to look oh-so-edgy? "Look, I'm so badass, my Mom buyed (yes...) me a snake!"? Is the sanke gonna have any fun there? Would the snake herself prefer being home, maybe, and just hanging around, having a little brake from the little pesty brat that shows her off endlessly whenever possible? Likely so. Also, I'm by no means convinced the snake is well cared for, but strongly believe the opposite to be true. Kids not always understand animals' needs, adults neither, and often, it isn't of that much interest. Likely, when Brattie gets into puberty, he'll be bored by his snake and neglect her, she'll get sick, no one will notice, and when they notice that the snake is somehow broken, they'll end up putting her down because spare parts for exotic devices cost too much
That's... completely beside the point; but a large fraction of the population has pet reptiles. They have many advantages over dogs and cats, from allergies to dealing better with being left alone. Has nothing to do with dragging them out of their safe space like here though.
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Excuse me but my emotional support animal is a snake. Not every pet has to have fur. Not everyone likes the same things and the heartless narrowminded people on here leaving trash comments dont have a clue. Like I get it that they didn't want the snake there, but security seems a little over the top. It was probably just a harmless ball python. They could have just told her to leave it in the car or take it home and come back. I def didn't get the "Karen" vibe on this one, sorry. She was right if the sign only said "no dogs". If people can bring their smelly flea bags into restaurants that serve food, than a snake outside isn't a big deal. People are such wussies, scared of their own shadows and dumb stuff (like snakes) but will do the most outrageous dangerous crap. I like snakes better than most people.
Love snakes, friendly things if socialized right but the owner can choose to allow or not allow them.
She should have said her son's snake was a service animal. Problem solved. Ridiculous, but solved.
Darn it, that means I can't take Patricia, my pet golden eagle to the fair, I'm going to the the Press!
Darn. I was gonna bring my ostrich but I guess I can’t now. Very sad
Member of the press here. People who pitch these kinds of story ideas are ridiculed for years.
The people trying to equate this to bringing a tiger, claiming that people's irrational animal phobias should be accommodated for, and whoever wrote the article to try to demonize people simply for having a pet snake because exotic pet trade strawman should be forcibly removed with no refunds. The people pointing out that letting a small child carry around a snake at a peopled location in autumn is probably bad for the animal can stay and get a refund regardless.
Friend had a parrot for many years. Parrot was a total asshole. He liked to perch on top of a door in the guy’s house that was never closed. I swear to God there was a streak of dried parrot s**t four feet long, a foot wide, & at least two inches thick. Did I mention that the parrot was a total asshole? I told him he was welcome at my house but the parrot wasn’t. He said he won’t go anywhere that won’t allow the parrot. Fine.
That place went above and beyond to make sure they got a 2nd chance. Most places would say tough luck. That snake could easily bite one of the many kids running around it's a hazard. And on the snowballs chance in hell it is a support animal it should have to be licensed ( like my cat is & he doesn't even leave the house and I have his paperwork) the snake should have to remain in a carrier case.
I think this was the same place that kicked me out for bringing my pet hippopotamus. So. Rude!
Is this where we are now, that people are so stupid they need every unsuitable item spelling out to them? What next? Will places have to specify "No dogs. No snakes. No bombs or bomb making equipment. No nuclear reactors."
Yes Karen, we are all glued to the news outlet awaiting your wonderful sob story. NOT
It would have to be a slow news day in hell before some news outlet would bother to pick up this dumbass story
Load More Replies... This person is the reason why frozen pizza boxes have to say "cook before eating" and why bleach containers say "do not drink"
Ok, my mom has a legit fear of snakes to the point that I have to walk ahead in pet stores and warn her if any are in stock (and she’ll still start panicking!). Can’t even imagine how she would react to seeing one in a crowded area like that. Did these people not think that maybe a large percentage of other people might find Mr. Squiggles terrifying af?
One of my friends is afraid of snakes - not as much as your mom, but they do scare her. On one our walks, I happily yelled out, "A snake!" then had to assure her, "Don't worry it's gone." I've also gotten between a friendly dog (happy to get my attention) and a hiker who was afraid of them (grateful that the dog was distracted by me). On the other hand, I'd be very happy if someone else shooed away wasps for me.
Load More Replies... Is it just me that hate the phrase "building/making memories"? You can't fabricate a happy memory, something either stays with you or it doesn't and the weirdest things stick in your head. Your parents may think you remember a lovely day out you had when you were 4 years old but all you can remember is you dropped your ice cream and Daddy tripped over a step and said a naughty word. That's it. That's your memory that you "built"
Maybe she was trying to build memories for the snake and the kids were just tagging along.
Load More Replies... I was in part in San Francisco, and one guy was sitting on a bench in the sun, enjoying the day... with his two-foot-long pet iguana perched on his shoulder. I thought it was utterly charming, and the iguana looked as relaxed and happy as its human.
I've seen interesting pets on the street. I would have been interested in the snake, but I'm also aware that some people fear them. A business has the right to only allow trained assistants for the disabled.
Load More Replies... I mean, I met a lady who was on a walk with her snake (it sat on her shoulders) and it was very pleasant encounter. Luckily, noone there minded snakes. And it was a public park and there was a lot of space to avoid each other if needed. Like, it's cool to be able to bring your pets along, but use common sense.
I'm quite sure that no business has a sign saying that lions, tigers and panters are not allowed on the premises. Sometimes you do not have to explain every detail. Not even for entitled idiots who obviously are too stupid to have any animal in their house.
What you're saying is I should leave my crocodile home. A sad state of affairs!
Load More Replies... It's because of people like this that those stupid Terms&Conditions documents are 20 pages long...
I could buy their having an emotionally supportive python. After all, they _are_ known for their hugs.
This lady is an idiot. There aren't any signs at McDonalds that say no crapping at the entrance either. And yet, you don't see people taking their dumps nilly-w***y all over the place now now do you?
Whaddya mean I can't bring my pet Anaconda? I know he's 24 feet long, but he's a gentle giant. He only squeezes the life out of neighborhood pets and, since there are no dogs allowed, we thought it would be okay.
I'm confused. I know very little about snakes or farms - why is being at a pumpkin farm dangerous to a snake? And did people complain because of that danger to a poor animal or do people simply dislike snakes over there?..
Snakes are able to get into almost any hole and if it was a good-sized snake, it could implode (Not many people know this word so I'm clarifying, it's an explosion inwards) a pumpkin or swallow one whole.
Load More Replies... Gnomes had a built-in resistance to rules. This didn’t just apply to the law, but to all the invisible rules that most people obeyed unthinkingly, like “Do not attempt to eat this giraffe” - Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Element.
but how can you take a snake out with you though?? 😦 wouldn’t it just slither away you cant put a lead on it???
Only in months with no K in them. Which means that your snake can enjoy a visit to a pumpkin farm in Germany, Austria,and Luxembourg in Oktober.
Load More Replies... What even is the point of having a pet snake? Ok, I'm not to judge, as long as the snake is fine and well cared for, it's kinda fine with me, fine enough for now for sure. But, why would one bring a snake to such a fair? To brag, to look oh-so-edgy? "Look, I'm so badass, my Mom buyed (yes...) me a snake!"? Is the sanke gonna have any fun there? Would the snake herself prefer being home, maybe, and just hanging around, having a little brake from the little pesty brat that shows her off endlessly whenever possible? Likely so. Also, I'm by no means convinced the snake is well cared for, but strongly believe the opposite to be true. Kids not always understand animals' needs, adults neither, and often, it isn't of that much interest. Likely, when Brattie gets into puberty, he'll be bored by his snake and neglect her, she'll get sick, no one will notice, and when they notice that the snake is somehow broken, they'll end up putting her down because spare parts for exotic devices cost too much
That's... completely beside the point; but a large fraction of the population has pet reptiles. They have many advantages over dogs and cats, from allergies to dealing better with being left alone. Has nothing to do with dragging them out of their safe space like here though.
Load More Replies... Excuse me but my emotional support animal is a snake. Not every pet has to have fur. Not everyone likes the same things and the heartless narrowminded people on here leaving trash comments dont have a clue. Like I get it that they didn't want the snake there, but security seems a little over the top. It was probably just a harmless ball python. They could have just told her to leave it in the car or take it home and come back. I def didn't get the "Karen" vibe on this one, sorry. She was right if the sign only said "no dogs". If people can bring their smelly flea bags into restaurants that serve food, than a snake outside isn't a big deal. People are such wussies, scared of their own shadows and dumb stuff (like snakes) but will do the most outrageous dangerous crap. I like snakes better than most people.
Love snakes, friendly things if socialized right but the owner can choose to allow or not allow them.
She should have said her son's snake was a service animal. Problem solved. Ridiculous, but solved.
Darn it, that means I can't take Patricia, my pet golden eagle to the fair, I'm going to the the Press!
Darn. I was gonna bring my ostrich but I guess I can’t now. Very sad
Member of the press here. People who pitch these kinds of story ideas are ridiculed for years.
The people trying to equate this to bringing a tiger, claiming that people's irrational animal phobias should be accommodated for, and whoever wrote the article to try to demonize people simply for having a pet snake because exotic pet trade strawman should be forcibly removed with no refunds. The people pointing out that letting a small child carry around a snake at a peopled location in autumn is probably bad for the animal can stay and get a refund regardless.
Friend had a parrot for many years. Parrot was a total asshole. He liked to perch on top of a door in the guy’s house that was never closed. I swear to God there was a streak of dried parrot s**t four feet long, a foot wide, & at least two inches thick. Did I mention that the parrot was a total asshole? I told him he was welcome at my house but the parrot wasn’t. He said he won’t go anywhere that won’t allow the parrot. Fine.
That place went above and beyond to make sure they got a 2nd chance. Most places would say tough luck. That snake could easily bite one of the many kids running around it's a hazard. And on the snowballs chance in hell it is a support animal it should have to be licensed ( like my cat is & he doesn't even leave the house and I have his paperwork) the snake should have to remain in a carrier case.
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