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“Unacceptable”: 18 Arrested After Female Police Officers Go Undercover To Expose Men While Jogging
Police in Surrey, England, are drawing attention to the frequency and seriousness of catcalling faced by women by posing as joggers.
As part of an undercover operation, two female officers wore running gear and jogged during the evening rush hour in areas identified as harassment hotspots.
The “Jog On” campaign comes in response to a surge of reports of women being followed, approached, catcalled, or harassed while out running, according to LBC.
Highlights
- Surrey Police’s “Jog On” campaign deployed undercover female officers to expose the harassment women face while jogging.
- The campaign has resulted in 18 arrests for harassment, s**ual attacks, and theft.
- It emphasizes early intervention and public education to prevent violence against women.
The operation has so far resulted in 18 arrests for offenses such as harassment, s**ual attacks, and theft.
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Police in Surrey, England, deployed female officers in athletic gear during rush hour to expose how often women are harassed
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The two officers were targeted within minutes. One of the harassers was a man in a large truck who honked and made gestures out the window as the undercover officers jogged past.
“One of our officers was honked at within ten minutes — then another vehicle slowed down, beeping and making gestures just 30 seconds later – that’s how frequent it is,” explained Inspector John Vale.
Image credits: Fellipe Ditadi / Unsplash (not the actual photo)
“Someone slowing down, staring, shouting – even if it’s not always criminal – it can have a huge impact on people’s everyday lives and stops women from doing something as simple as going for a run.
“We have to ask: is that person going to escalate? Are they a s**ual offender? We want to manage that risk early.”
The undercover officers jogged through areas identified as harassment hotspots and were supported by nearby specialist units
Image credits: LBC
PC Abby Hayward, one of the police officers who volunteered to go undercover, said that many women are subjected to street-based harassment every day.
“We get catcalled. We get honked at. People slow down just to stare – or lean out the window to shout something. It’s so common, but it’s harassment and it needs to be recognized as that.”
Image credits: LBC
While not all instances of catcalling are considered harassment under the law or result in arrests, the campaign also focuses on educating the public and preventing violence against women.
“This behaviour is either a precursor to something more serious – or it’s ignorance, and it’s fixable. That’s where our interventions come in: to stop potential repeat offenders or help people understand that what they’re doing isn’t OK,” Hayward added.
“The rise in violence against women and girls is real – we’re talking about women being spat at, stalked, harassed while they’re just out on a run – it’s just horrendous.”
The operation, which began in July, has so far resulted in 18 arrests
Image credits: LBC
According to LBC, two men driving a van apologized after being stopped by officers for harassing a female runner.
“They said sorry to us, and it meant a lot as it shows this operation is working – we’re out here making change happen,” stressed Hayward.
“I’m proud to be part of this. It’s long overdue – and it’s making a difference.”
Surrey Police is also urging the public to report unsafe areas using the StreetSafe tool, which allows users to flag locations anonymously.
Image credits: LBC
Inspector Vale explained that the campaign acts as a deterrent and a method of early intervention against catcalling.
“You don’t know if the woman you’re harassing is a police officer – and that’s the point and we want people to think twice before acting like this.”
He continued: “We know that this kind of harassment is significantly under-reported thanks to a study carried out by Surrey County Council this year, which revealed that of 450 female residents surveyed, 49 per cent never reported.
“To date, we have made a number of interventions following reports of harassment of our plain clothes runners. In these cases, it was deemed appropriate to provide education around anti-social behavior.
“For repeat offenders or where the behavior is more serious, we will robustly pursue all criminal justice outcomes.”
“It’s so common, but it’s harassment and it needs to be recognized as that,” stressed police officer Abby Hayward
Image credits: LBC
Inspector Vale described street harassment as a “significant worry” for women and girls and said that police would continue to patrol running routes throughout the Redhill area.
Still, catcalling is a common issue throughout the entire South East England county. “This type of harassment isn’t just being experienced by communities in Reigate and Banstead, but communities across the whole of Surrey, and it’s unacceptable.
“We have female officers and staff members who have been the subject to such behavior when off duty.
“The message I would like to impart to perpetrators is this; your actions will not be tolerated.”
The arrests were made for offences including harassment, s**ual attacks, and theft
Image credits: LBC
Image credits: Mika Baumeister / Unsplash (not the actual photo)
Inspector Vale urged people to “reflect” and ask themselves: “Is this how you would treat or want your partner, mother, sister to be treated?
“The next time you see a female jogger, just think, they could be a police officer with colleagues nearby ready to stop you. Your behaviour is not welcome in Surrey.”
The Jog On initiative is part of the police’s strategy to combat violence against women and girls (VAWG) in public spaces. These tactics, which involve undercover female officers working alongside uniformed colleagues, have previously been used to identify predatory behavior in bars, clubs, and town centers.
A study by the University of Manchester found that over two-thirds of women surveyed in north-west England had experienced harassment while jogging, including threats, verbal harassment, being followed, and having objects thrown at them, with only 5% reporting these attacks to the police.
Hundreds of netizens commented on the Surrey Police’s “Jog On” initiative
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katiekat0214 3 months ago
So women have been screaming about harassment for millenia. We've used our words. We have networks to warn other women, and little has changed. Why not hit men where it hurts, arrest them, fine them, give them a record? If they are still doing it after millenia, then it's all about power, control, dominance. Let's rip that away then. Let's absolutely criminalize it, and show real power, dominance, control through giving them a consequence that hurts. Every repeat offense gets a little more serious. I mean, what's it going to take, since women have been complaining about this for MILLENIA?
Ms.GB 3 months ago
It's technically harassment so I don't understand why it isn't illegal.
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Michael Largey 3 months ago
Simple rule, guys. Don't say anything to a woman on the street that you wouldn't want a man saying to you in prison.
Missy Moo Moo 3 months ago
Haha this!!!! I’ve been groped 100 times in my life, in pubs, bars, nightclubs, buses, trains, crowds… and I’ve always wondered how these men would feel about it if another man did it to them. I know they wouldn’t like it! In the end I used to walk with my hands by my side to I could grab them and I would crack their fingers as hard as I could. Even had a few complain to me later that I had really hurt them… it least I know I got the right ones
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KatSaidWhat 3 months ago
Spot the dude who said they should be concerned with actual crime... check your privilege, bud.
Nizumi 3 months ago
The men apologized when they were pulled over. They apologized when they realized they just harassed police officers. They do NOT apologize for every female presenting person they harass. I'm glad to be of an age where I just turn around and ask if they would speak to their nan like that. On a lighter note, back in university I was attending some Hallowe'en -related movie night where people were dressed up. Crowed hall, floor seating was all that was left. Enter three guys dressed as flashers, who of course flashed the young women sitting at cr*tch level because, well, that's what the costumes called for. They reached me - did the flash - I looked up to give them a withering glare when I recognized one of them: "Steve Michaels! My god - haven't seen you in years! Dude! How's your mum?" His coat slapped closed soooooo fast!
Lousha 3 months ago
Looking at the comments one cannot be surprised that this sort of behaviour is still around. They think catcalling is disgusting, but they don't think that saying it's not necessary to protect women is even more disgusting. It's just not a serious issue, is it? Why would police need to waste their time addressing something that affects half of the population? No blood is being spilled (most of the time), so why bother, right? It's harmless, it's not like constant harassment from childhood every time you to dare to step out of your home is causing any damage, right?
BrownEyedPanda 3 months ago (edited)
The point is that this kind of behavior can easily escalate to violence. Some men don't take kindly to being ignored, particularly by women who, in their minds, should be finding them irresistible. If catcalling doesn't produce the desired effect, they would have no qualms in cutting off the jogger's escape route and forcing them into their vehicle.
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Black Cat 3 months ago
It's not just comments though, it's threats of r**e, it's men pretending to or actually following them, it's men yelling obscenities at them. It's out and out intimidation because many men feel entitled to and, given the comments, a lot of other men don't see it as a big deal. No doubt these same men would get their y-fronts in a knot if huge burly homo guys and their friends started doing it to them.
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CatWoman1014 3 months ago
Can men just leave women the f**k alone? We can’t do anything in peace without fear of some man coming to harass us or worse. Yall make it easy to hate you.
AuspiciousTree283 3 months ago
"Police should be focusing on real crime." Anyone saying this are missing the point about how rampant this inappropriate behavior is.
BrownEyedPanda 3 months ago
Oh no they're not. They KNOW how rampant it is. They just want to minimize it in order to justify continuing this tasteless act.
Load More Replies... The Big Bad 3 months ago
I went to the comment section of this video at YouTube. I was a bit shocked. It looked like nobody supported it or saw street harassment of women as a problem. Just wow. I've felt so unsafe in my own city because of it and a lot of my female friends as well. It is a huge problem.
Tobias Reaper 3 months ago
it definitely is a problem an all to real one they complaining because they think its a waste of police resources. But if it works and it stops someone doing it again in future then its not a waste.
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Gordon 3 months ago
Maybe I'm not offended because I don't cat-call Women and I actually respect them...
arthbach 3 months ago
Gordon, we need more men like you. Here's the important part, men listen to their male friends, their male co-workers, their male supervisors, their male (anything). Please continue to do good by speaking up every time you hear another man catcalling, or acting in a disrespectful way. The men who disrespect women don't listen to women, only men.
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Scott Rackley 3 months ago
I've never understood this. What's the thinking behind it? You think catcalling a girl then she going to come over and grab your d**k?
Nitka Tsar 3 months ago
Sooo….. they do not want trans women to be allowed in womens bathrooms, even though there has never been any incidents, but when they do something against actual predators, it is a waste of time? (Talking about the last few comments)
winterwidow87 3 months ago
Yeah the police should go after actual criminals, like trans women wanting to pee in peace! /S
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Nova Rook 3 months ago
I'll never forget being in NYC in about 1992 and seeing four or six uniformed cops catcalling a woman who looked like an office worker (she was attractive and maybe 30?). And it was at night! The street was a little busy so she wasn't isolated or anything, but holy F, I was about 20 and knew catcalling was gross - but there was a bunch of NYC cops doing it!
Lee Banks 3 months ago
I was riding my bike to work some years ago.art modeling gig in the middle of summer, so i was just wearing what was comfy. It was six in the morning. This dude tried to run me off the road for three blocks while yelling lewd things. He finally realized that wasn't working, so he up and rolled down his window to flash money at me. I smashed his sideview with my U lock. Lost my job for being late.
Na Schi 3 months ago (edited)
"According to LBC, two men driving a van apologized after being stopped by officers for harassing a female runner." THIS MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT - EXPLOSIVELY! So this 2 nitwits said sorry to the police officers who caught them red-handed... And the police is happy with that outcome?!! Com'n we all know better! Best give the UK women the same "advice" German women received some years ago as it had become clear that visiting crowded events on their own wasn't safe anymore: "Always keep an arm-length distance to men you don't know!" (And if you get crowded by those men, turn around to keep them all at distance and declare that you are not comfortable with the situation.) And not to mention Germany is dealing with increasing harassment of girls/femal teenagers/women in public pools. But please don't worry too much. The hot temperatures get that specific group of men forget their manners. The women should be forgiving! AND! Those men also aren't used to women wearing such short swimwear!
Uncle Panda 3 months ago (edited)
Closest I ever got was my first day working at a plant store/tree nursery. In the same hour, I stepped on and hit myself in the face with a rake, a garter snake bit me, and an elderly pretty lesbian patted my derriere while telling me how cute I looked in overalls. On the whole, it was a pretty remarkable first day.
Margaret Brown 3 months ago
I'm guessing the posters saying police should go after real criminals are men. Just a very educated guess!
Judy Takács 3 months ago
Harrassment and threatening behavior IS a real crime. What these officers did is the same concept as police cars hiding behind a bridge to catch speeders. If you're not speeding, you don't have to worry. If you are, you have to watch out, slow down, stop speeding and obey the law, and if they catch you…face the consequences. Same goes for vehicular harassment…which is what this is. Just don't do it, and you won't get caught doing it.
Beak Hookage 3 months ago
I'm not a jogger, nor am I conventionally attractive, and I've had plenty of guys yell at me through car windows, honk their horns, and throw things. Nearly got hit by an egg and actually did get hit by a frigging tennis ball. Any woman who's near a road is fair game. I don't think some men realise just how SCARY they can be to most women. If a man decided to attack me, or worse, I know all too well that there's little or nothing I could do about it. When I had a clearly unhinged man shove my head down and kiss me while my neck was completely exposed, completely vulnerable, I didn't struggle or even protest. Just smiled and politely excused myself as soon as I could. Because if I HAD struggled, or screamed, or protested, god knows how he might have reacted and I was not going to take that risk. An unwanted kiss was horrible enough, but if he had gotten *violent*, what then? It's not just about being made to feel gross and uncomfortable; we are afraid for our lives, and for good reason.
Crystalwitch60 3 months ago
This is much needed , I always ran at 5 am daily to prevent this as I loath it , when in the gym I’d give withering rear is to the men as make sexist comments there , always have done , it’s unacceptable totally do better men !! Well done to those lasses for doing this , n maybe now it will be made a crime !! As it should be now ,if this is what it takes so be it !! MEN YOU ONLY GOT YOURSELVES TO BLAME !!
OldFedUp 3 months ago
This is a bit more complex than some here make it out. As a geeky teenage boy in the early 80s I get sexually bullied by girls (and boys), sometimes physically. Example: At 15 I had my a*s grabbed by one girl. When I turned toward her, she pulled the face and made the noise 70s kids used to mock learning disabled kids. Not all such touching was considered derogatory or unwelcome though. At college, it was common for both sexes to uninvited grab the others bums as a kind of banter or flirting. In the naive post-60s free-for-all, it seemed acceptable. On a drunken night out in the mid-80s, if a boy pinched a girls behind, it typically provoked one of two responses: an expletive / slap in the face or a smile. Even then though, any further was considered not OK - No still meant No. Attitudes have rightly changed. Many blokes need to catch up with the societal shift, but are not taught how to cope positively with feelings of attraction or beauty; so they fall into misogyny and harassment.
Faye Bosworth 3 months ago
The sad thing is, that when asked in a study what they would do if there were no men on earth for a day, many women said walk outside alone at night.
John Marconcini 3 months ago
wow dammit we need stop these women from talking to me at bars and soccer games I feel threatened ...My point being its ALWAYS the men well Ladies alot of us are offended you can put the finger on every male there are good and BAD in both sexes/where are the ones where women are pulling this c**p
Tyranamar Seuss 3 months ago
A woman is not going to physically overpower you. You can't say the same thing about a man harassing women. And who are you kidding. Women are not sexually harassing you wherever you go. That's just some incel fantasy. Your premise is preposterous.
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JayWantsACat 3 months ago
Obviously they're talking about slowing down to harass someone, rather than slowing down to be more safe. Did this really need to be clarified? I don't get why so many people either ignore the context, can't infer it, or just flat out just can't acknowledge the point being made. Do you also point at that "not all mean are bad" instead of just understanding the point being made about men... is obviously about "bad men"? JFC.
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Rimjabbathehutt 3 months ago
Maybe if those women should open their legs or flash their t**s every once in awhile.
BrownEyedPanda 3 months ago
Seriously? Is that all you gleaned from this article? Even if it was sarcasm, it isn't funny. Maybe you should reread what you posted and ask yourself this: would you be so nonchalant about this if someone you know was harassed in this manner?
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winterwidow87 3 months ago (edited)
I can assure you the men who catcalled me when i was 13 walking down the street with my mum where all white. So was the guy who sêxually harrassed me on a bus at 15, with a bunch of other white people just watching and not doing anything, bus driver included. Your point?
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Gin 3 months ago (edited)
I agree women can absolutely be inappropriate with men, and do sexually harrass and a-ssault them. However, there is usually one fundamental difference... Men don't tend, on the whole, to fear that a woman is going to seriously hurt/r-a-p-e/ki-ll them. You know, averagely speaking.
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Earonn - 3 months ago
Some of the arrests were made for theft. And yeah, your car broken into is totally the same as what women have to endure when they jog and men sexually a*****t them. Let's swap. You live with the cat calling, molestation and threat of ra*pe, and we have to worry about our cars. Oh, wait, we have to worry about that already. FFS.
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mp7dvnrw85 3 months ago
That’s because you don’t understand what entrapment means.
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Kari Panda 3 months ago
It‘s not. Entrapment is if an undercover cop tells you, "Yo, I bet you‘re too cowardly to go catcall these women over there, loser!" If the police women were simply out and about, that’s absolutely not entrapment.
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arthbach 3 months ago
Oh honey, we'd far rather than the 'mongrel invasion' than people like you in the UK. Your repugnant ideas are most unwelcome.
Load More Replies... katiekat0214 3 months ago
So women have been screaming about harassment for millenia. We've used our words. We have networks to warn other women, and little has changed. Why not hit men where it hurts, arrest them, fine them, give them a record? If they are still doing it after millenia, then it's all about power, control, dominance. Let's rip that away then. Let's absolutely criminalize it, and show real power, dominance, control through giving them a consequence that hurts. Every repeat offense gets a little more serious. I mean, what's it going to take, since women have been complaining about this for MILLENIA?
Ms.GB 3 months ago
It's technically harassment so I don't understand why it isn't illegal.
Load More Replies... Michael Largey 3 months ago
Simple rule, guys. Don't say anything to a woman on the street that you wouldn't want a man saying to you in prison.
Missy Moo Moo 3 months ago
Haha this!!!! I’ve been groped 100 times in my life, in pubs, bars, nightclubs, buses, trains, crowds… and I’ve always wondered how these men would feel about it if another man did it to them. I know they wouldn’t like it! In the end I used to walk with my hands by my side to I could grab them and I would crack their fingers as hard as I could. Even had a few complain to me later that I had really hurt them… it least I know I got the right ones
Load More Replies... KatSaidWhat 3 months ago
Spot the dude who said they should be concerned with actual crime... check your privilege, bud.
Nizumi 3 months ago
The men apologized when they were pulled over. They apologized when they realized they just harassed police officers. They do NOT apologize for every female presenting person they harass. I'm glad to be of an age where I just turn around and ask if they would speak to their nan like that. On a lighter note, back in university I was attending some Hallowe'en -related movie night where people were dressed up. Crowed hall, floor seating was all that was left. Enter three guys dressed as flashers, who of course flashed the young women sitting at cr*tch level because, well, that's what the costumes called for. They reached me - did the flash - I looked up to give them a withering glare when I recognized one of them: "Steve Michaels! My god - haven't seen you in years! Dude! How's your mum?" His coat slapped closed soooooo fast!
Lousha 3 months ago
Looking at the comments one cannot be surprised that this sort of behaviour is still around. They think catcalling is disgusting, but they don't think that saying it's not necessary to protect women is even more disgusting. It's just not a serious issue, is it? Why would police need to waste their time addressing something that affects half of the population? No blood is being spilled (most of the time), so why bother, right? It's harmless, it's not like constant harassment from childhood every time you to dare to step out of your home is causing any damage, right?
BrownEyedPanda 3 months ago (edited)
The point is that this kind of behavior can easily escalate to violence. Some men don't take kindly to being ignored, particularly by women who, in their minds, should be finding them irresistible. If catcalling doesn't produce the desired effect, they would have no qualms in cutting off the jogger's escape route and forcing them into their vehicle.
Load More Replies... Black Cat 3 months ago
It's not just comments though, it's threats of r**e, it's men pretending to or actually following them, it's men yelling obscenities at them. It's out and out intimidation because many men feel entitled to and, given the comments, a lot of other men don't see it as a big deal. No doubt these same men would get their y-fronts in a knot if huge burly homo guys and their friends started doing it to them.
Load More Replies... CatWoman1014 3 months ago
Can men just leave women the f**k alone? We can’t do anything in peace without fear of some man coming to harass us or worse. Yall make it easy to hate you.
AuspiciousTree283 3 months ago
"Police should be focusing on real crime." Anyone saying this are missing the point about how rampant this inappropriate behavior is.
BrownEyedPanda 3 months ago
Oh no they're not. They KNOW how rampant it is. They just want to minimize it in order to justify continuing this tasteless act.
Load More Replies... The Big Bad 3 months ago
I went to the comment section of this video at YouTube. I was a bit shocked. It looked like nobody supported it or saw street harassment of women as a problem. Just wow. I've felt so unsafe in my own city because of it and a lot of my female friends as well. It is a huge problem.
Tobias Reaper 3 months ago
it definitely is a problem an all to real one they complaining because they think its a waste of police resources. But if it works and it stops someone doing it again in future then its not a waste.
Load More Replies... Gordon 3 months ago
Maybe I'm not offended because I don't cat-call Women and I actually respect them...
arthbach 3 months ago
Gordon, we need more men like you. Here's the important part, men listen to their male friends, their male co-workers, their male supervisors, their male (anything). Please continue to do good by speaking up every time you hear another man catcalling, or acting in a disrespectful way. The men who disrespect women don't listen to women, only men.
Load More Replies... Scott Rackley 3 months ago
I've never understood this. What's the thinking behind it? You think catcalling a girl then she going to come over and grab your d**k?
Nitka Tsar 3 months ago
Sooo….. they do not want trans women to be allowed in womens bathrooms, even though there has never been any incidents, but when they do something against actual predators, it is a waste of time? (Talking about the last few comments)
winterwidow87 3 months ago
Yeah the police should go after actual criminals, like trans women wanting to pee in peace! /S
Load More Replies... Nova Rook 3 months ago
I'll never forget being in NYC in about 1992 and seeing four or six uniformed cops catcalling a woman who looked like an office worker (she was attractive and maybe 30?). And it was at night! The street was a little busy so she wasn't isolated or anything, but holy F, I was about 20 and knew catcalling was gross - but there was a bunch of NYC cops doing it!
Lee Banks 3 months ago
I was riding my bike to work some years ago.art modeling gig in the middle of summer, so i was just wearing what was comfy. It was six in the morning. This dude tried to run me off the road for three blocks while yelling lewd things. He finally realized that wasn't working, so he up and rolled down his window to flash money at me. I smashed his sideview with my U lock. Lost my job for being late.
Na Schi 3 months ago (edited)
"According to LBC, two men driving a van apologized after being stopped by officers for harassing a female runner." THIS MAKES ME WANT TO VOMIT - EXPLOSIVELY! So this 2 nitwits said sorry to the police officers who caught them red-handed... And the police is happy with that outcome?!! Com'n we all know better! Best give the UK women the same "advice" German women received some years ago as it had become clear that visiting crowded events on their own wasn't safe anymore: "Always keep an arm-length distance to men you don't know!" (And if you get crowded by those men, turn around to keep them all at distance and declare that you are not comfortable with the situation.) And not to mention Germany is dealing with increasing harassment of girls/femal teenagers/women in public pools. But please don't worry too much. The hot temperatures get that specific group of men forget their manners. The women should be forgiving! AND! Those men also aren't used to women wearing such short swimwear!
Uncle Panda 3 months ago (edited)
Closest I ever got was my first day working at a plant store/tree nursery. In the same hour, I stepped on and hit myself in the face with a rake, a garter snake bit me, and an elderly pretty lesbian patted my derriere while telling me how cute I looked in overalls. On the whole, it was a pretty remarkable first day.
Margaret Brown 3 months ago
I'm guessing the posters saying police should go after real criminals are men. Just a very educated guess!
Judy Takács 3 months ago
Harrassment and threatening behavior IS a real crime. What these officers did is the same concept as police cars hiding behind a bridge to catch speeders. If you're not speeding, you don't have to worry. If you are, you have to watch out, slow down, stop speeding and obey the law, and if they catch you…face the consequences. Same goes for vehicular harassment…which is what this is. Just don't do it, and you won't get caught doing it.
Beak Hookage 3 months ago
I'm not a jogger, nor am I conventionally attractive, and I've had plenty of guys yell at me through car windows, honk their horns, and throw things. Nearly got hit by an egg and actually did get hit by a frigging tennis ball. Any woman who's near a road is fair game. I don't think some men realise just how SCARY they can be to most women. If a man decided to attack me, or worse, I know all too well that there's little or nothing I could do about it. When I had a clearly unhinged man shove my head down and kiss me while my neck was completely exposed, completely vulnerable, I didn't struggle or even protest. Just smiled and politely excused myself as soon as I could. Because if I HAD struggled, or screamed, or protested, god knows how he might have reacted and I was not going to take that risk. An unwanted kiss was horrible enough, but if he had gotten *violent*, what then? It's not just about being made to feel gross and uncomfortable; we are afraid for our lives, and for good reason.
Crystalwitch60 3 months ago
This is much needed , I always ran at 5 am daily to prevent this as I loath it , when in the gym I’d give withering rear is to the men as make sexist comments there , always have done , it’s unacceptable totally do better men !! Well done to those lasses for doing this , n maybe now it will be made a crime !! As it should be now ,if this is what it takes so be it !! MEN YOU ONLY GOT YOURSELVES TO BLAME !!
OldFedUp 3 months ago
This is a bit more complex than some here make it out. As a geeky teenage boy in the early 80s I get sexually bullied by girls (and boys), sometimes physically. Example: At 15 I had my a*s grabbed by one girl. When I turned toward her, she pulled the face and made the noise 70s kids used to mock learning disabled kids. Not all such touching was considered derogatory or unwelcome though. At college, it was common for both sexes to uninvited grab the others bums as a kind of banter or flirting. In the naive post-60s free-for-all, it seemed acceptable. On a drunken night out in the mid-80s, if a boy pinched a girls behind, it typically provoked one of two responses: an expletive / slap in the face or a smile. Even then though, any further was considered not OK - No still meant No. Attitudes have rightly changed. Many blokes need to catch up with the societal shift, but are not taught how to cope positively with feelings of attraction or beauty; so they fall into misogyny and harassment.
Faye Bosworth 3 months ago
The sad thing is, that when asked in a study what they would do if there were no men on earth for a day, many women said walk outside alone at night.
John Marconcini 3 months ago
wow dammit we need stop these women from talking to me at bars and soccer games I feel threatened ...My point being its ALWAYS the men well Ladies alot of us are offended you can put the finger on every male there are good and BAD in both sexes/where are the ones where women are pulling this c**p
Tyranamar Seuss 3 months ago
A woman is not going to physically overpower you. You can't say the same thing about a man harassing women. And who are you kidding. Women are not sexually harassing you wherever you go. That's just some incel fantasy. Your premise is preposterous.
Load More Replies... JayWantsACat 3 months ago
Obviously they're talking about slowing down to harass someone, rather than slowing down to be more safe. Did this really need to be clarified? I don't get why so many people either ignore the context, can't infer it, or just flat out just can't acknowledge the point being made. Do you also point at that "not all mean are bad" instead of just understanding the point being made about men... is obviously about "bad men"? JFC.
Load More Replies... Rimjabbathehutt 3 months ago
Maybe if those women should open their legs or flash their t**s every once in awhile.
BrownEyedPanda 3 months ago
Seriously? Is that all you gleaned from this article? Even if it was sarcasm, it isn't funny. Maybe you should reread what you posted and ask yourself this: would you be so nonchalant about this if someone you know was harassed in this manner?
Load More Replies... winterwidow87 3 months ago (edited)
I can assure you the men who catcalled me when i was 13 walking down the street with my mum where all white. So was the guy who sêxually harrassed me on a bus at 15, with a bunch of other white people just watching and not doing anything, bus driver included. Your point?
Load More Replies... Gin 3 months ago (edited)
I agree women can absolutely be inappropriate with men, and do sexually harrass and a-ssault them. However, there is usually one fundamental difference... Men don't tend, on the whole, to fear that a woman is going to seriously hurt/r-a-p-e/ki-ll them. You know, averagely speaking.
Load More Replies... Earonn - 3 months ago
Some of the arrests were made for theft. And yeah, your car broken into is totally the same as what women have to endure when they jog and men sexually a*****t them. Let's swap. You live with the cat calling, molestation and threat of ra*pe, and we have to worry about our cars. Oh, wait, we have to worry about that already. FFS.
Load More Replies... mp7dvnrw85 3 months ago
That’s because you don’t understand what entrapment means.
Load More Replies... Kari Panda 3 months ago
It‘s not. Entrapment is if an undercover cop tells you, "Yo, I bet you‘re too cowardly to go catcall these women over there, loser!" If the police women were simply out and about, that’s absolutely not entrapment.
Load More Replies... arthbach 3 months ago
Oh honey, we'd far rather than the 'mongrel invasion' than people like you in the UK. Your repugnant ideas are most unwelcome.
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