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Manager Wants Employee To Pass On 12 Years Of Experience Before Going On Vacation, He Just Resigns
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Manager Wants Employee To Pass On 12 Years Of Experience Before Going On Vacation, He Just Resigns

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When choosing between the efficiency of the company’s work processes and a strong desire to get a relative a great job, what will you choose as a boss? Paradoxically, there are many companies whose higher-ups pick the first (and then rant about “staff shortage” – but that’s another story…)

Well today’s tale, first told by the user u/StormShadowJoe, will tell you about one of such companies. One can only marvel at the patience of the author, who worked in the same place for 12 years without any promotions or pay raises. However, let’s just cut to the chase.

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    The author of the post had been working in a small IT company of around 45 employees for 12 years

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    The author worked as an information systems manager and had a wide range of responsibilities, making him a crucial cog in the machine

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    At the same time, all the author’s requests for getting promoted through all these years have been in vain

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    However, another guy who came to the company at the same time climbed the ladder, becoming a chief admin and the author’s boss

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    So one day, upon bringing that guy a 1-week PTO request, the author faced a demand to give him a “crash course” before actually going on vacation

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    It turned out the chief admin was the CEO’s cousin – but the author issued them both an ultimatum of either approving his PTO request or signing his 2-week notice

    So, the Original Poster (OP) had been working in one company for 12 years, and during this time he had become a very important cog in this small corporate machine (about 45 employees, as the author says). He worked as a systems manager, and over the years he had asked for a promotion or pay raise more than once, but was rejected every time.

    However, another employee, who joined the company at about the same time, had already managed to rise to the rank of chief admin, and became our hero’s immediate boss. So one fine day, when the author brought him a 1-week PTO application for signing, the boss demanded a 2-week “crash course” in response – just in case.

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    Of course, teaching him a decade’s worth of IT knowledge wasn’t feasible, and our hero simply recommended that in case of any emergencies, he simply contact their service provider. But the chief admin persisted – and said that otherwise he wouldn’t approve the PTO. The result was a meeting with the CEO and the chief admin, where the author found out that they were actually cousins.

    Our hero issued an ultimatum – either they sign his 1-week PTO, or they’d have to sign his 2-week notice. The higher-ups chickened out – but then they still tried to trick him into teaching a free IT course for the boss. But our hero had already realized the real state of affairs and began actively looking for a new job. With his experience and skills, finding a new, higher-paid place was quite possible.

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    Of course, it’s quite reasonable that the company wants to play it safe in case such an important employee goes on vacation – but it’s the action plan that the author suggested to the management that is usually considered typical in most companies. Simply pass on the basic instructions to colleagues – and in case of an emergency, contacting the service providers.

    Here, the original poster was essentially pressured to give a free express course on transferring all his knowledge and skills for a decade – and this seems completely weird. Moreover, experts do assure that the requirement to train one’s replacement as the main condition of PTO approval clearly contradicts the labor laws.

    In general, the situation looks like the OP was clearly not appreciated at his (hopefully former) job and, perhaps, they were secretly trying to prepare a replacement for him. By the way, many commenters also agreed with this. “In reality he wanted you to ‘train’ him because he wants to be able to terminate you down the road,” someone wrote in the comments.

    Responders also believed that the author definitely should have looked for a new job a few years ago. “Honestly no raise or promotion 12 years in IT. It’s about the time you stopped being their whipping boy” – this was probably the wisest of all pieces of advice given to the author. So do you, our dear readers, also agree with this?

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    Most commenters simply told the author to search for a new job immediately as this company had been mistreating him for years

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    sweet emotion
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    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have trained several newly hired direct managers on how to do my work, and I have also done many "side-by-sides" with upper management to demonstrate my job function. I have never understood why HR and senior management think it is a good idea to fill manager positions with people who don't have the first clue about what their team does on a day-to-day basis. Especially at the trench level of a large corporation it makes more sense to promote from the ranks (i.e. knowledge base), doesn't it?

    Uncle Panda
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    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had the supreme satisfaction of walking out of three similar situations, and with no job to go to. In each case, they hired 2-3 people to replace me. Pennywise and pound foolish.

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    Tabitha
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    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was me, I would set the a*****e up. I would “train” the CAO with all the wrong things to do , knowing for sure it will crash their whole system and get the CAO’s cousin, the CEO, to fire them on the spot while yelling at them that they’re a f*****g idiot who tanked every single one of the company’s operations. Would LOVE to be a fly on the wall at that family’s Thanksgiving dinner right after that particular incident.

    Binky Melnik
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    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a job sorta like that: It was a database of all the insurance companies in the US and the doctors who participated in each. Using a browser, you could find doctors in your area who took your insurance. I was the one who, on a monthly basis, received a file from the insurance companies listing all the doctors who took their plan. The files I was sent frequently made me laugh: I *wanted* a text file delimited with tabs or commas/quotes. What I *got* about 40% of the time were PDFs, Word documents, files from every database or spreadsheet application in existence, etc. (One lady sent it to me in Adobe Illustrator! 😳🤯 I 💩 you not! A VECTOR program! 😆) I wrote myself scripts to massage each format I received into what I needed in Perl or HyperCard. When the company eventually asked me to “document what I do,” I put in an email: 1. Receive the data; 2. Get it into a format the database can use. What else could I do? That was the truth: I did whatever it took to get the files into the right format.

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    sweet emotion
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    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have trained several newly hired direct managers on how to do my work, and I have also done many "side-by-sides" with upper management to demonstrate my job function. I have never understood why HR and senior management think it is a good idea to fill manager positions with people who don't have the first clue about what their team does on a day-to-day basis. Especially at the trench level of a large corporation it makes more sense to promote from the ranks (i.e. knowledge base), doesn't it?

    Uncle Panda
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    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've had the supreme satisfaction of walking out of three similar situations, and with no job to go to. In each case, they hired 2-3 people to replace me. Pennywise and pound foolish.

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    Tabitha
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    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was me, I would set the a*****e up. I would “train” the CAO with all the wrong things to do , knowing for sure it will crash their whole system and get the CAO’s cousin, the CEO, to fire them on the spot while yelling at them that they’re a f*****g idiot who tanked every single one of the company’s operations. Would LOVE to be a fly on the wall at that family’s Thanksgiving dinner right after that particular incident.

    Binky Melnik
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    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a job sorta like that: It was a database of all the insurance companies in the US and the doctors who participated in each. Using a browser, you could find doctors in your area who took your insurance. I was the one who, on a monthly basis, received a file from the insurance companies listing all the doctors who took their plan. The files I was sent frequently made me laugh: I *wanted* a text file delimited with tabs or commas/quotes. What I *got* about 40% of the time were PDFs, Word documents, files from every database or spreadsheet application in existence, etc. (One lady sent it to me in Adobe Illustrator! 😳🤯 I 💩 you not! A VECTOR program! 😆) I wrote myself scripts to massage each format I received into what I needed in Perl or HyperCard. When the company eventually asked me to “document what I do,” I put in an email: 1. Receive the data; 2. Get it into a format the database can use. What else could I do? That was the truth: I did whatever it took to get the files into the right format.

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