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Woman Follows Her Gut Feeling And Returns From Vacation Earlier, Realizes She Wasn’t Wrong
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Woman Follows Her Gut Feeling And Returns From Vacation Earlier, Realizes She Wasn’t Wrong

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Dealing with a narcissist can be a nightmare. It’s even worse when they’re your mother-in-law. Good communication and respect form the foundation for healthy relationships with everyone, including your in-laws. But if someone constantly ignores your boundaries, needs, and wants, you might be tempted to cut them out of your life.

Internet user u/Valkyriebw_105 vented to the ‘Two Hot Takes’ community about how, while she was on holiday when pregnant, her toxic mother-in-law secretly redecorated her entire house. Scroll down to read about the “full-blown panic attack” the author had when she realized just how much damage her MIL had done.

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    This woman revealed how she went on holiday while pregnant, only to come back to find that her mother-in-law had redecorated her entire house

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    The author then answered some people’s questions

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    Someone with narcissistic personality disorder usually has tense relationships. People try to avoid spending time with them

    It goes without saying that it’s unethical to redecorate someone’s home and throw out some of their property without their consent. If you’re offering your help to clean their house but end up overhauling the entire building to suit your own interior design taste, you’re essentially lying. And that does an untold amount of damage to your relationship.

    You cannot expect to have a healthy, positive relationship with someone if you trick them, set false expectations, and then avoid taking any responsibility for your actions. Of course, nobody changes for the better overnight. But if you want to salvage the relationship, aside from a heartfelt apology, you need to improve your self-awareness and start working on sanding the rough edges of your behavior.

    That is much easier said than done if someone is an actual narcissist. They may need the long-term help of a psychotherapist to change their behavior patterns.

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    Someone who has narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) unreasonably believes that they are much more important than they actually are. They crave attention and want other people to admire them. They sincerely believe that they deserve special favors and praise because of who they are.

    The downside, as Mayo Clinic highlights, is that narcissists lack the ability to understand or care about others’ feelings. In other words, they lack empathy. The result? Their relationships suffer: they are unfulfilling and troubled. Most people generally don’t enjoy spending time around narcissists, after all.

    Moreover, beyond the facade, individuals with NPD generally have a fragile sense of self-worth. They are very easily upset at even the slightest hint of criticism.

    Narcissists can, in theory, change their harmful behavior patterns. However, this requires consistent effort, patience, and, often, outside help

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    Meanwhile, Duke Health points out that the 9 signs of NPD spell out the acronym SPECIAL ME. Specifically:

    • Sense of self-importance;
    • Preoccupation with power, beauty, or success;
    • Entitled;
    • Can only be around people who are important or special;
    • Interpersonally exploitative for their own gain;
    • Arrogant;
    • Lack empathy;
    • Must be admired;
    • Envious of others or believe that others are envious of them.

    As Duke Health stresses, narcissists are not bad people. However, their behavior is problematic. “They have been conditioned to believe that they are special and deserve to be treated better than others and approach the world accordingly.”

    Your relationship with them can be stressful and challenging as a result. Your mental health can suffer because narcissists constantly put themselves first and may belittle you. You aren’t powerless, however. What you can do is set healthy boundaries (and actually enforce them!) and walk away if the person with NPD ignores them.

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    Meanwhile, Duke Health points out that while narcissists can recover, changing their learned behaviors takes time and effort. “People with NPD do not generally seek help on their own, and if they do, it is often because of a co-existing problem, like anxiety. […] If a person is willing to change and their therapist can help them bridge the gap between their current and desired behaviors, there is hope for recovery.”

    What’s your point of view, dear Pandas? Do you think the author was right to call out her mother-in-law and block her, or did she overreact? How would you have handled the entire situation?

    Do you have any narcissists among your family, friends, or coworkers who keep ignoring your boundaries? How do you deal with them in your day-to-day life? Don’t forget to share your thoughts.

    Later, as the story went viral, the author revealed more details in the comments

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    Most people were shocked by the mother-in-law’s behavior. Here’s what they said about the family drama

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    Unfortunately, a few of the other readers experienced something similar. Here are their traumatic stories

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    Meanwhile, here is the final update that the author of the post shared with everyone

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    Jonas Grinevičius

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    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real.At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design.In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle.I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    Jonas Grinevičius

    Jonas Grinevičius

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    Storytelling, journalism, and art are a core part of who I am. I've been writing and drawing ever since I could walk—there is nothing else I'd rather do. My formal education, however, is focused on politics, philosophy, and economics because I've always been curious about the gap between the ideal and the real.At work, I'm a Senior Writer and I cover a broad range of topics that I'm passionate about: from psychology and changes in work culture to healthy living, relationships, and design.In my spare time, I'm an avid hiker and reader, enjoy writing short stories, and love to doodle.I thrive when I'm outdoors, going on small adventures in nature. However, you can also find me enjoying a big mug of coffee with a good book (or ten) and entertaining friends with fantasy tabletop games and sci-fi movies.

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    kaycee14
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why doesn't the survey have a "PUNCH HER IN THE FACE" option?

    Boo
    Community Member
    4 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pregnant or not....I would've slapped the seven colours of shìte out of that woman! Nobody, and I mean NOBODY messes with my sanctuary without consequences! Hopefully OP goes NC with her MIL to protect her children.

    Mark Stewart
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right, homes are very personal to the people that live in them. Mine is a bit tatty in spots and could definitely use a makeover but I would slap the snot out of anyone that changed anything without my say so.

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    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moments like this are what 911 is for. What she did was a crime, and they could have had her arrested, then sue her for the missing items. It's considered theft. And the household changes are considered valdalism.

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't call 911, as the crime had already occurred and no one needed immediate assistance. Better to call non-emergency and have police come to take statements to present to the family court. OP and her husband voluntarily allowed the MIL access to their home, so she would have been given a key. They did agree the MIL was allowed to clean. This would still be scrutinized. There was no break and enter. Of course, there's a very high chance OP would win the case.

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    greenideas
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a mistake to give her access to the kids.

    Angela C
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a mistake to give her access to oxygen

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    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't plan a whole house decor on a whim and orchestrate it in a couple of days. She's been planning this for a while. I'd be NC.

    Beth Wheeler
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely not overreacting. I would have taken all of her c**p and dumped it in her front yard. I would have burned her a new aszhole for doing that to my house and stuff. She definitely wouldn't be alone with my kids ever! She would also have to pay for my stuff.

    Papa
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. When I read that some people were telling OP that she had over reacted I couldn't help thinking that just about the only over reaction to that situation would be murdering her mother-in-law.

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    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are saying OP's husband is not strong enough to stand up to his mom. As an offspring of a narcissist parent, who's experienced dealing with this type of person as a normal part of growing up, OP is right that her husband really is only waking up to how dangerous and over-bearing his mom is. He probably knows how controlling and nitpicky she can be. Likely thinks it's just her schtick. It does sound like he's tried standing up to her. Knowing narcissists, they try hard to stay one step ahead of you. They play your weaknesses to make you bend, throwing crippling ultimatums. It actually takes a lot of therapy to get to the point of being able to safely confront a narcissist in a way that won't retraumatize you. It can take people years to get up to that point. There are people who've went no contact cold turkey then sooner or later recontacted their narcissist because they start remember the good times, then think they are overreacting. What I think may have happened was the MIL...

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... made a nasty, crippling ultimatum with OP's husband, one on one (where she can have her mask off) that made him compromise against his wife's wishes. He needs more support and be encouraged to go to counselling with a therapist that specializes in narcissistic a*****e relationships.

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    lfc73
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NO CHILD should be exposed for even one moment with such a monstrous person. Redecorating your home while you’re away?!?! Nevemind, during a difficult pregnancy!?!? Sweet effing geezus, there’s is No Way in H*ll I would allow someone like that near my babies. End Of. If your husband is concerned about his father’s relationship with the kids, he can make arrangements to spend time with him Without the psychopath granny. FFS. People are nuts.

    Eri J
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hubby should have dragged his mom back to the house by her neck and forced her to fix everything before she could leave.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If anyone did that to my house, no-one would ever find the body.

    Hayhaypaula
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Psychopaths and narcissists! They will do a thing called sending out their flying monkeys! Your daughter will be very carefully trained to believe that you harmed the MIL! She will also use your daughter, one of the monkeys, to bring more grief toward you, since you dared to challenge her, and more importantly, since you see her for who she really is! You are now enemy number one, and she will slander you for the rest of her life. No contact is the only way! Grandpa can come to your gatherings, or just visit to see his grandchildren. He can even stay over, whenever. She does not have to be there! People with this mental illness are pathological liars without a conscience! They live in their own fantasy world. That is why she sees nothing wrong with her behavior. You are the one who isn't following the rules, not her! Don't let her influence your daughter! She's probably still working on destroying your relationship with your husband. Be very careful. They never change!

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have called the cops the second you got there, and the moment her (should have already been ex) husband said he wanted the kids to have contact with the convict, she should have started divorce procedings

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re forgetting that his dad is a good man, and he doesn’t want his dad out of his life and unfortunately, mom is part and parcel of dad’s life. If he wants to see his dad, he hasta put up with his mom. And you’re forgetting that she loves her husband and has no intentions of divorcing him.

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    Divado
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes feel the same way about Director's Cuts of films. But I LIKED the original! Why change things?

    CloPotato
    Community Member
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    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of how when we were vacationing my mil called pest control for my bf's apartment. He had like 15 fruit flies, we were going to take care of the pb after the vacation. I insisted it was dumb, but his parents insisted it was very serious (the company had told them so!). Thankfully , my bf let them cover the whopping 1200€ this b******t cost -as you can guess, the company quickly realized the kind of person they were dealing with, so they pumped up the prices. According to the workers, it took them 4 days 🤡 and it was very difficult. Also we shouldn't put clothes out to dry, the flies "nest" there (fruit flies don't nest, but that's a minor detail). Anyways, they also cleaned and reorganized his apartment, and I came home to food having been thrown away (cereal boxes, as well as cans for some reason) and pages of work notes also gone. It's less extreme than the post bc we don't live together, but if we move in together I'm getting cameras bc she'll do that.

    st4x2gt974
    Community Member
    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I both come from home with narcissistic mothers and neglective fathers. We have trauma bonded over this however more and more the damage that has been deeply sowed is rearing its very nasty head. Unfortunately neither of us have any idea what real love looks like. My MIL just left from a weekend with the grandkids (she sees them maybe once a year). She comes to our home and the only thing I ask is she feed them (meals I’ve already prepared and require only microwave) and play with them. She did neither. She didn’t feed them. She sat on her phone the entire weekend. My 11 yr old daughter was in shambles when I got home. My kids have been venting to me for days. My husband is a wonderful person but unfortunately I don’t think we can overcome the damage they’ve done and continue to do. Almost 20 years down the drain. I feel like my life is over. I can’t fix him, I can’t fix me and the beautiful family I’ve worked so hard for will all be gone soon.

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sorry to hear this lovely 💔💔you are stronger than you think tho, use your trauma as the strength to do what you need to do ,to protect you and your wonderful children, when it’s get to stressful, you can always come let off steam with us. We got you xxx

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    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If this happened to me, no contact would be the best option. Not for me. For MIL. But I know myself pretty well, and I doubt I would let it end there. I would probably take my time, plan my actions and potential results, and bide my time for the right moment. That revenge would chill like frozen nitrogen. That dish would stop electrons orbiting their protons.

    Marnie
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one thing that is really off about this is that OP talks about this like the MIL did it only to OP. It was OP's husband's house too! Was OP expecting all the sympathy from her husband, but didn't actually commiserate with him since it affected him, too? It reminds me of the poor guy whose wife died, and people would constantly ask women around him who were far less close (like his sister) how THEY were doing and never thought to check how HE was doing. Made me so sad.

    Asmodeus Hare
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! When my grandmother who I often visited died... Everyone was asking my sister who did not visit as often. I would start talking and get told to "man up"

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    TheReader19
    Community Member
    3 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are so full of shít. Why are their options always "divorce your husband, don't allow her to see your kids." I truly believe most of these people have never been in a relationship. The mother-in-law is an absolute b***h, spiteful and bad minded. I'm so happy that the husband stood up for his wife and let her sit outside whilst he started to fix things. I can't see how he's behaviour equals leave him. OP is totally valid in her feelings and actions; some commenters need to get a life and/or a hobby. Kmt

    Invisible Potato
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if someone aranged my house, painted wall, move furniture, stuff clothes etc, throw stuff and replace it, i would lock that person in a house and burn it all down...

    Asmodeus Hare
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moving furniture would be normal. Moved pictures would be average if you dusted them .. gone means war.

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    WubiDubi
    Community Member
    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah family have access to keys via a multi step emergency protocol. They can ask friends for the key safe code. Time to change state/ country.

    Kimberly Lorton
    Community Member
    19 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You were right, she is crazy to knowingly violate your home. Thank goodness she will not be doing that again, an you did everything right. You do mot need to deal with her verbally or physically .

    GatorGran
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cleaning is one thing. Throwing out a person's belongings is an absolute NO! I have to closets I don't want anyone to see, but if they want to scrub my bathroom and kitchen floor, have at it! Just don't mess with my stuff.

    Miss Ann Thrope
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The best way to negotiate this relationship going forward is thru family therapy. You can't be at war with your mil for the rest of your life.

    Sarah Matsoukis
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd be in prison for burning her house down

    DC
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One too many overstepping here. Never allow her back anywhere!

    JSL
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Frankly, I would have filed a police report for theft and breaking and entering. MIL needs to feel the full weight of my rath and maybe understand finally that HER way is not MY way and she will never be allowed around me or my kids when I have the choice. FIL is welcome to come over to visit WITHOUT his wife.

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can’t do her for breaking and entering tho, they gave her the key ,and permission to clean up ,theft however 100% do her for.

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    Earonn -
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hubby felt man enough to father a child, but is a mommy-boy still suckling on his mama's t**s. Apparently it never occurred to him that his mother can fvck up a child as well as a flat. And putting his wishes for his daughter to have contact with both (he could bring his own Dad to his home instead!) over what was done to his wife? FFS, we need a mandatory suckling test for men before they are allowed to marry or have children.

    Asmodeus Hare
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow... Let's kick the battered women too....

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    kaycee14
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why doesn't the survey have a "PUNCH HER IN THE FACE" option?

    Boo
    Community Member
    4 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pregnant or not....I would've slapped the seven colours of shìte out of that woman! Nobody, and I mean NOBODY messes with my sanctuary without consequences! Hopefully OP goes NC with her MIL to protect her children.

    Mark Stewart
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right, homes are very personal to the people that live in them. Mine is a bit tatty in spots and could definitely use a makeover but I would slap the snot out of anyone that changed anything without my say so.

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    tori Ohno
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moments like this are what 911 is for. What she did was a crime, and they could have had her arrested, then sue her for the missing items. It's considered theft. And the household changes are considered valdalism.

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't call 911, as the crime had already occurred and no one needed immediate assistance. Better to call non-emergency and have police come to take statements to present to the family court. OP and her husband voluntarily allowed the MIL access to their home, so she would have been given a key. They did agree the MIL was allowed to clean. This would still be scrutinized. There was no break and enter. Of course, there's a very high chance OP would win the case.

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    greenideas
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a mistake to give her access to the kids.

    Angela C
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a mistake to give her access to oxygen

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    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't plan a whole house decor on a whim and orchestrate it in a couple of days. She's been planning this for a while. I'd be NC.

    Beth Wheeler
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Definitely not overreacting. I would have taken all of her c**p and dumped it in her front yard. I would have burned her a new aszhole for doing that to my house and stuff. She definitely wouldn't be alone with my kids ever! She would also have to pay for my stuff.

    Papa
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. When I read that some people were telling OP that she had over reacted I couldn't help thinking that just about the only over reaction to that situation would be murdering her mother-in-law.

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    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are saying OP's husband is not strong enough to stand up to his mom. As an offspring of a narcissist parent, who's experienced dealing with this type of person as a normal part of growing up, OP is right that her husband really is only waking up to how dangerous and over-bearing his mom is. He probably knows how controlling and nitpicky she can be. Likely thinks it's just her schtick. It does sound like he's tried standing up to her. Knowing narcissists, they try hard to stay one step ahead of you. They play your weaknesses to make you bend, throwing crippling ultimatums. It actually takes a lot of therapy to get to the point of being able to safely confront a narcissist in a way that won't retraumatize you. It can take people years to get up to that point. There are people who've went no contact cold turkey then sooner or later recontacted their narcissist because they start remember the good times, then think they are overreacting. What I think may have happened was the MIL...

    StrangeOne
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ... made a nasty, crippling ultimatum with OP's husband, one on one (where she can have her mask off) that made him compromise against his wife's wishes. He needs more support and be encouraged to go to counselling with a therapist that specializes in narcissistic a*****e relationships.

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    lfc73
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NO CHILD should be exposed for even one moment with such a monstrous person. Redecorating your home while you’re away?!?! Nevemind, during a difficult pregnancy!?!? Sweet effing geezus, there’s is No Way in H*ll I would allow someone like that near my babies. End Of. If your husband is concerned about his father’s relationship with the kids, he can make arrangements to spend time with him Without the psychopath granny. FFS. People are nuts.

    Eri J
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hubby should have dragged his mom back to the house by her neck and forced her to fix everything before she could leave.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If anyone did that to my house, no-one would ever find the body.

    Hayhaypaula
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Psychopaths and narcissists! They will do a thing called sending out their flying monkeys! Your daughter will be very carefully trained to believe that you harmed the MIL! She will also use your daughter, one of the monkeys, to bring more grief toward you, since you dared to challenge her, and more importantly, since you see her for who she really is! You are now enemy number one, and she will slander you for the rest of her life. No contact is the only way! Grandpa can come to your gatherings, or just visit to see his grandchildren. He can even stay over, whenever. She does not have to be there! People with this mental illness are pathological liars without a conscience! They live in their own fantasy world. That is why she sees nothing wrong with her behavior. You are the one who isn't following the rules, not her! Don't let her influence your daughter! She's probably still working on destroying your relationship with your husband. Be very careful. They never change!

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Should have called the cops the second you got there, and the moment her (should have already been ex) husband said he wanted the kids to have contact with the convict, she should have started divorce procedings

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re forgetting that his dad is a good man, and he doesn’t want his dad out of his life and unfortunately, mom is part and parcel of dad’s life. If he wants to see his dad, he hasta put up with his mom. And you’re forgetting that she loves her husband and has no intentions of divorcing him.

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    Divado
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    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes feel the same way about Director's Cuts of films. But I LIKED the original! Why change things?

    CloPotato
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    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of how when we were vacationing my mil called pest control for my bf's apartment. He had like 15 fruit flies, we were going to take care of the pb after the vacation. I insisted it was dumb, but his parents insisted it was very serious (the company had told them so!). Thankfully , my bf let them cover the whopping 1200€ this b******t cost -as you can guess, the company quickly realized the kind of person they were dealing with, so they pumped up the prices. According to the workers, it took them 4 days 🤡 and it was very difficult. Also we shouldn't put clothes out to dry, the flies "nest" there (fruit flies don't nest, but that's a minor detail). Anyways, they also cleaned and reorganized his apartment, and I came home to food having been thrown away (cereal boxes, as well as cans for some reason) and pages of work notes also gone. It's less extreme than the post bc we don't live together, but if we move in together I'm getting cameras bc she'll do that.

    st4x2gt974
    Community Member
    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I both come from home with narcissistic mothers and neglective fathers. We have trauma bonded over this however more and more the damage that has been deeply sowed is rearing its very nasty head. Unfortunately neither of us have any idea what real love looks like. My MIL just left from a weekend with the grandkids (she sees them maybe once a year). She comes to our home and the only thing I ask is she feed them (meals I’ve already prepared and require only microwave) and play with them. She did neither. She didn’t feed them. She sat on her phone the entire weekend. My 11 yr old daughter was in shambles when I got home. My kids have been venting to me for days. My husband is a wonderful person but unfortunately I don’t think we can overcome the damage they’ve done and continue to do. Almost 20 years down the drain. I feel like my life is over. I can’t fix him, I can’t fix me and the beautiful family I’ve worked so hard for will all be gone soon.

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sorry to hear this lovely 💔💔you are stronger than you think tho, use your trauma as the strength to do what you need to do ,to protect you and your wonderful children, when it’s get to stressful, you can always come let off steam with us. We got you xxx

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    Chris the Bobcat
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If this happened to me, no contact would be the best option. Not for me. For MIL. But I know myself pretty well, and I doubt I would let it end there. I would probably take my time, plan my actions and potential results, and bide my time for the right moment. That revenge would chill like frozen nitrogen. That dish would stop electrons orbiting their protons.

    Marnie
    Community Member
    3 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one thing that is really off about this is that OP talks about this like the MIL did it only to OP. It was OP's husband's house too! Was OP expecting all the sympathy from her husband, but didn't actually commiserate with him since it affected him, too? It reminds me of the poor guy whose wife died, and people would constantly ask women around him who were far less close (like his sister) how THEY were doing and never thought to check how HE was doing. Made me so sad.

    Asmodeus Hare
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This! When my grandmother who I often visited died... Everyone was asking my sister who did not visit as often. I would start talking and get told to "man up"

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    TheReader19
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    3 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are so full of shít. Why are their options always "divorce your husband, don't allow her to see your kids." I truly believe most of these people have never been in a relationship. The mother-in-law is an absolute b***h, spiteful and bad minded. I'm so happy that the husband stood up for his wife and let her sit outside whilst he started to fix things. I can't see how he's behaviour equals leave him. OP is totally valid in her feelings and actions; some commenters need to get a life and/or a hobby. Kmt

    Invisible Potato
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if someone aranged my house, painted wall, move furniture, stuff clothes etc, throw stuff and replace it, i would lock that person in a house and burn it all down...

    Asmodeus Hare
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moving furniture would be normal. Moved pictures would be average if you dusted them .. gone means war.

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    WubiDubi
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah family have access to keys via a multi step emergency protocol. They can ask friends for the key safe code. Time to change state/ country.

    Kimberly Lorton
    Community Member
    19 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You were right, she is crazy to knowingly violate your home. Thank goodness she will not be doing that again, an you did everything right. You do mot need to deal with her verbally or physically .

    GatorGran
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cleaning is one thing. Throwing out a person's belongings is an absolute NO! I have to closets I don't want anyone to see, but if they want to scrub my bathroom and kitchen floor, have at it! Just don't mess with my stuff.

    Miss Ann Thrope
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The best way to negotiate this relationship going forward is thru family therapy. You can't be at war with your mil for the rest of your life.

    Sarah Matsoukis
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd be in prison for burning her house down

    DC
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One too many overstepping here. Never allow her back anywhere!

    JSL
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Frankly, I would have filed a police report for theft and breaking and entering. MIL needs to feel the full weight of my rath and maybe understand finally that HER way is not MY way and she will never be allowed around me or my kids when I have the choice. FIL is welcome to come over to visit WITHOUT his wife.

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can’t do her for breaking and entering tho, they gave her the key ,and permission to clean up ,theft however 100% do her for.

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    Earonn -
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    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hubby felt man enough to father a child, but is a mommy-boy still suckling on his mama's t**s. Apparently it never occurred to him that his mother can fvck up a child as well as a flat. And putting his wishes for his daughter to have contact with both (he could bring his own Dad to his home instead!) over what was done to his wife? FFS, we need a mandatory suckling test for men before they are allowed to marry or have children.

    Asmodeus Hare
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow... Let's kick the battered women too....

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