Anti-Vax Mom’s Messages After Finding Out Her 19-Year-Old Daughter Got Vaccinated Will Leave You Baffled
We make a lot of silly decisions when we come of age, but this 19-year-old girl probably made the smartest one she could. She got vaccines. Six of them. For us, being pro-vaccination might not sound like a big deal, but her anti-vax mom completely lost it, and someone on the internet documented her entire Facebook rage rant.
People have been destroying anti-vaxxers for a long time, but when nobody shuts them down for a duration of a full conversation, we get a good glimpse of what goes on in their heads. Weirdly enough, nobody talked about vaccines and autism, as this is usually the most prominent theme for anti-vaxxers to discuss. Scroll down to check out why this anti-vaccination mom and her friends felt “heartbroken” after her daughter went to the doctor to get an immunization, and let us know your thoughts about it in the comments!
Holy s**t. I was not aware that so many people where this stupid. "Dont get vaccines that help you to not get sick". " They will make you sick". "Yes, the dead, miniscule amount of germs will make you sick.
Load More Replies...Wow. What a pip. Classic child abuser. She's actually hunting for sympathy because her daughter doesn't want to die from cervical cancer. She's a piece of work. ...One thing the daughter can do is tell her physician that her medical information shouldn't be sent to her mother any more. She is a legal adult and she has the right to keep her personal information private. ... I suspect that if she does that, Mommy Dearest will threaten to take her off insurance, but that will just prove that she needs to get away from her abuser.
This mother's greatest achievement is that against all odds she has raised a daughter smarter than her.
I hope all these people have no children, and do not go to public places either.
Load More Replies...I would like to take a moment, while we're talking about vaccines, to talk about autism. Autism is not caused by vaccinations. The cause of autism is unknown, and scientists are working really hard to find out what causes it, but we know for sure vaccines are not the answer. Now, I would like to talk about autism itself. Autism is a developmental disorder that is on a huge spectrum. I myself was born with very mild autism, meaning I can go about my normal life most of the time with some social difficulties. However, it can range to the point where some cannot speak, and still need help with basic tasks. Ok, now that I got that out of the way... Please do not talk to people with autism like babies! It drives me mad! Also, please, do not talk about a person with autism to another person when the person with autism is nearby! We can hear you just fine, we're not stupid! Thank you for reading my rant. If you have any questions, comment below
My nephew was born with severe autism and has a lot of difficulties, but I never speak to him like a baby. I can tell he understands everything that is said to him, but he has trouble communicating what he is thinking or feeling. Sometimes people talk to him like he's stupid and it makes me angry. The kid has a memory like a steel trap. I see him every weekend and as soon as i walk in the door he begins his routine of asking me a lot of questions (where's my house, where's my clothes, where's my car Sandy, etc.) He has a long list of questions and every so often he'll throw in a question about something he heard or saw months ago. His memory is amazing. He is truly special and gifted and i wouldn't change him for the world. But to make a long story short, thank you for bringing up the fact that is has nothing to do with vaccines and especially for asking people to not treat people with autism like they're babies.
Load More Replies..."I hope she had an awful reaction" F**k these people.....................hard
That person is a terrible, terrible person. Wishing someone ill like that? So messed up.
Load More Replies..."8 years I've been teaching her and she just listens to someone she deems more educated." Yeah like a f*****g doctor who went to medical school? I'm pretty they know more about that s**t than you do after reading some articles on Facebook lady
So much people without any medical/scientific/AnythingUsefulInThisSituation formation, who still think they KNOW how vaccines work after 5 minutes of research on google...Pitiful, but Isaac Asimov was right saying "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"...and not only in US, sadly...
It's Idiocracy. Soon enough we'll be watering crops with Mountain Dew.
Load More Replies...She probably would have all right with the heroin...if is was organic.
Load More Replies...I had Guillian Barre syndrome and am not allowed to take several different vaccines, so it is crucial that those around us are vaccinated!!! I was also a child born with a faulty immune system and was sick with everything except measles. Anti vaxxers are deadly to people with compromised immune systems!!!
That's another thing people don't consider, is that some people are more susceptible than others, so when you don't vaccinate your child you're not only putting them at risk, but someone else's kid too
Load More Replies...I mean you can believe in what you want but don’t force it on your children.... At least that’s what I believe
I agree, but in this case, the anti-vaxers believe vaccines are actual poison, so they think they're saving their lives. It's a bit like when your parents teach you against drug abuse, for example. Sure, we know about the importance of vaccines, but these people believe in conspiracies.
Load More Replies...My mom also is against vaccinations and never got me or my brother vaccinated, he's twenty now and I'm seventeen, I told her I wanted to be vaccinated and she said that even if she doesn't agree with it it's my choice, so I'm glad she at least doesn't try and fight me about it
people in Africa are screaming crying and dying for vaccins!!!!! you stupid ignorant woman...you did a search on google, and now you are an expert?? I FORBID YOU TO RUN TO A DOCTOR WHEN YOU GET ILL!!
This is so stupid. I'm glad my parents aren't complete idiots and get me vaccinated
She raised a young woman who felt strong enough in her own beliefs and decisions to go do What she felt was right for her body. If the mom did her best to educate, isn't it saying something that the daughter is smart enough to make her own choices? Did she want to raise a person who only thinks just like her?
Yes. She did. She believes the b******t, and even though HER parents vaccinated her, she wants her daughter to suffer.
Load More Replies...Until the child is an adult the parent I can make medical decisions... but good lord let the girl be! She's a legal adult and can make her own medical decisions. Smart girl doing her own research and talking to a health care provider.
The parent shouldn't have to decide, it should and must be mandatory. It's not a matter of choice.
Load More Replies...A bunch of delusionals fulfilling one another’s paranoia. I don’t know how you fight this level of idiocy 😨
Anti-vaxxers are flat-earthers who can harm *everyone*. They read articles without any actual knowledge of the topic, ignore the debunking, b/c it makes them feel better to think (???).... Than to eradicate measles, mumps, whooping cough, smallpox, polio --- y'know, disease that can kill, maim for life, small problems like *that*!
I say, SEGREGATE students who's parents don't vaccinate! let's see which group has the higher mortality rate. "Sorry your kid can't go with the group to the excursion, some kids have just recovered from chicken-pox, and you haven't vaccinated, its too risky for your child."
Load More Replies...Would like to get this mom on a plane TODAY, get her to a region of the world without access to vaccines. She can explain to the sick that they are lucky they didn't get the vaccines, their life devastating illnesses aren't really that bad.
Here is a picture of the Bridge family's children. Please look at and think. 12 beautiful children GONE. This is what happens when you can't vaccinate. Take full advantage of modern medicine my friends. grave-5a98...c04946.jpg
I'm truly horrified. I have a rare primary immunodeficiency disorder and I cringe every time I go into the doctor's office and there's some person (most likely not vaccinated) coughing their germs all over. I get every vaccine that I can, but some don't "take". I have no immunity to measles, for example, and I get warned whenever there's a local case. Then, I have to stay inside to avoid those who haven't been vaccinated. I was hospitalized with flu complications before vaccines were readily available to me. Because of my immune disorder, every time I get something minor like a cold, it escalates and I get very sick. I cannot believe that there are still people out there who think that a vaccine is dangerous. Those are the folks that I'm afraid of ... their ignorance may kill me some day.
I can kind of understand from their perspective *if* they truly thought they were having to decide between autism or the chance of contracting an illness; that would be a tough call for any parent to make, but it’s cases like yours that truly devastate me. People like you are counting on the rest of us to not get them sick and it’s not fair that you have to be scared of the world. It wasn’t your choice to be immunized-compromised, and it shouldn’t be theirs to put you in danger by not vaccinating.
Load More Replies...In Latvia the more serious vaccines are mandatory by law. Why isn't it like that in the USA?
Due to recent outbreaks, many states have already, or are in the process of, revoking the ability to "opt out" of routine vaccinations.
Load More Replies...Doesn't anybody believe in REAL science anymore? This woman and these commenters apparently subscribe to voodoo and not scientific understanding! It's a sad world with all of these people getting all of their knowledge from Facebook postings! Listen people, go and vaccinate!
Trust me, people who practice Voodoo are far more sane than Anti-Vaxxers.
Load More Replies...First of all, the anti-vaxxers show a clear prejudice against autism. o what, if your child is born autistic? How is that any different from having a child being born with one less/one plus chromosome (which has nothing to do with vaccines but with genetics, pure and simple?). Do these people support "eugenics" as well? Refusing to vaccinate your child can harm a community, a city, a whole country. Out of "beliefs". In this context, I would call the anti-vaxxers *fanatics* - people that believe in something with such determination that they simply shut their ears because their brains no longer function alone - they're on a heard level. I've never heard anything good coming from fanatics. By the way, autism is not at all bad as they try to picture it. Is it a little more difficult to raise andrelate to an autistic child? Indeed. But it's even harder to bear with the death of a child that could have been prevented. http://autismmythbusters.com/general-public/famous-autistic-people/
Wanna see my beautiful autistic son? Yup, it’s a challenge, but I wouldn’t trade him for anything. F6EDEE12-0...cd664.jpeg
Load More Replies...Perfect example of someone who has their Facebook friends locked down to an echo-chamber, how do you even find that many anti-vaxers.
This feels like a post to get be all riled up. A lot of people only surround themselves with like minded people. I disagree, but I don't know this small group of people. *Shrug*
I feel sad for the daughter. She's the only one with enough sense and initiative to go and do the right thing. It's sad that this poor girl had to be put at risk for so long because of her mother's ignorance. I wish people would just stop this nonsense.
Credit, respect, and hopes for continued courage to the daughter opting to get the vaccines.
Refusing to get a child vaccinated should legally be considered child abuse. End of story
Here at my place.. the government just made vaccination cards mandatory for school admissions. 👍🏽
Same. I don't understand how is possible that she went to school with others?!
Load More Replies...People that do not Vax their kids, should not be allowed to have their kids in public school. Vaccinations are a proven science and these losers are holding on to a study that was done by a man who was exposed as a fraud, lost his medical credentials and was sent to prison. To all the Anti-Vaxxers, I ask, Where's Polio if Vaccines don't work?
I had a choice; Risk my son getting polio or get a vaccine..... Is this a hard choice for people? Vaccinate !!!
If I ever have a child (I hope so, I can't yet due to a disease) I will vaccinate! I'd rather want my kid vaccinated than the poor kid getting polio or another horrible disease. And if my child gets a reaction. Well, that's sad. But better a reaction which will go away. And to the people claiming vaccinations cause autism. Well, I'd rather want my kid to have autism than polio. My SO works with people who have different forms of autism. They live on a farm where they are taken care of. My SO is one of the caregivers. I'd rather have this happen than my child getting polio or another horrible disease. Though I do not even believe vaccines cause autism. It could have been there from birth and develop further. And then they can get symptoms after the vaccinations. It doesn't mean that the vaccines CAUSE autism!!!
And to the people wishing this girl harm because she got herself vaccinated.. Oh I can't describe it. This makes me so angry. Wishing harm to a very clever 19 year old, just to "prove" their ‘right’. They need to be shamed for the rest of their lives! What kind of person wishes harm to a healthy person? That is just sick. I have 2 diseases myself, and even though I have excruciating (indescribable) pain 24/7, going on 12 years now, I would not wish this to my worst enemy. (I don’t have enemies, but if I had them, I still would not wish this to them). This is my opinion. I am glad I see my opinion shared a LOT over here. There are still smart people in the world who listen to very well educated doctors who studied extremely hard to help people with medical problems of any kind.
Load More Replies...I've met far right and far left people who are 'anti-vax', and one far left guy who is that way does feel strongly that the scientific consensus on global warming/climate change is true, and that evolution is biological reality. I agree w/ him on the latter two points and asked what is is epistemological basis (way of knowing) those latter points? His response: the scientific consensus. So then I said, so what about vaccines? Isn't the scientific consensus that they work well and don't cause autism? He got angry.
They do. He's completely irrational about he, he knows that and he's embarrassed by it, but he can't admit he's wrong, because...ego?
Load More Replies...I just can't with this level of stupidity. I have actually lost friends of mine because of the decision to vaccinate my children. My...almost grown...teenage daughters that are going off to college... and have been properly vaccinated. So....when the next stages of mumps and measles come around again...do we just put their kids in a bubble? Because more than likely....in their opinions....Vaccinations are evil!!! UGH
Dear God. "I hope she doesn't die!" In countries without easy access to vaccines, kids walk for DAYS to get the shots that they know can save their lives because they see what life is like both with and without vaccination, and they know life without vaccination is very dark indeed (particularly when you aren't fortunate enough to be benefitting from herd immunity). I just can't.
"she decided to listen she deemed more educated" Well, a doctor with all those years and years of education and experience can't be more educated than MOM, can he? All this hand-wringing about how her child has deceived her. What a narcissist! And all of her "groupies" clamoring around her. I was a bit sympathetic then one of those harpies wanted something terrible to happen to this person, so that she could learn a hard lesson. After that, I think those b**** can rot in hell.
This is absolutely insane. Her daughter is an adult, she can make her own decisions. What if any of these children of "anti-vaxers" want to be in the medical field or travel to underdeveloped countries? They have to have vaccines for that. If there only argument is the fear of getting Autism and/or being pumped full of chemicals, I have three points. 1. We eat chemicals, we bathe in chemicals, we breathe chemicals, we clean with chemicals- so unless you live like a bear in the woods, you are going to come into contact with chemicals. 2. Autism is typically diagnosed before the age of 2- there are no cases of "Adult-onset" Autism and 3. It has been researched and proven that there is no direct correlation between vaccines and an Autism diagnosis. And, lest we forget the rest out break of small pox and other nearly eradicated diseases because of anti-vaxer's.
My guess is, the daughter learned the truth from her high school biology class, and was just waiting until she was of legal age. Probably went to some on-campus counseling sessions during her freshman year of college to get some support too.
What a hysterical bunch of idiots! She is a young adult making an informed decision about her own health. Get over yourselves!
We three sisters had polio in 1953, before Jonas Salk found his vaccine. My sister was in an iron lung at age 10. Every morning the kids on the ward said their names, so the kids could all know who had died in the night. At 73 she still has nightmares about it. My bones were malformed and I was crippled and in agony, walking on the insides of my ankles until age 62, when there was a surgery to rebuild my feet and ankles. If you decide not to immunize your children, be sure you are ready to face them being crippled for life, or dying a horrible death, possibly taking other people’s children with them. There are lots of worse things than autism.
This really moves me. My mother is in a similar situation. She has broken her back twice, and she's in decline. Best wishes to all of you.
Load More Replies...so many delusional people these days.... and what is annoying the most, antivaxxers are so brainwashed, it's impossible to argue with them.
Part of me wants to say that anti-vax movement is a great way to thin the herd and eliminate people that are too stupid to live but then again....it's not the kids fault...it's the parent....so sadly the wrong person would be punished by their stupidity.
It is also terrifying that if someone not vaccinated gets one of those terrible diseases we are trying to prevent, it can easily spread to people who CAN'T get vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons, AND even to the people who ARE vaccinated if their immune systems are compromised for whatever reason. Measles epidemics are happening again because of the anti-vaccination whackjobs letting their carrier children around people who could potentially get sick. It's gotten bad enough that I am considering home schooling my VACCINATED children just to try to avoid the chance that little Timmy in their class isn't vaccinated and has somehow started spreading whooping cough or some other DEADLY disease. Hell, I'm genuinely afraid to leave my home on many days because of this.
Load More Replies...Some people are just dumb. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions more that they have ever harmed (if any!). Just do the maths - the risk is infinitesimal compared to the certainty of the damage these diseases can cause if you are unfortunate enough to succumb. I'd normally say something like, "This woman shouldn't be allowed to breed and have kids", but then we wouldn't have her far smarter daughter around.
The last comment: 'Go ready fully equipped with the knowledge..' - Priceless!
I am very disturbed that a mother would publicly post her daughter's health information. Her daughter is over the age of 18 and is responsible for what goes out and what doesn't. I think that the article is definitely worth reposting! except that, in this litigious society, I don't want to be responsible for the spreading of personal information without express permission. FROM THE DAUGHTER.
What a narcissist. More concerned that HER control was thwarted. Classic case of "How dare she defy me". I have some choice words for the harpies that are feeding her narcissism, especially the one who hopes that something terrible happens to this young brave woman ("because that'll show her we're right"): May Karma bite you on the a*s and give you all the horrible things that you wished upon someone trying to protect herself.
I wonder how many of these anti-vaxxers have been vaccinated when they were kids... And if they realize that they didn't die from any horrible disease etc... ? And the one comment wishing harm upon the 19y.o. is just awful. Sick people -_-
Probably most of them were vaccinated. Depends on the age, though. The chicken pox vaccine didn't exist until 1992.
Load More Replies...I don't know what's more appalling... The level of mental insanity of the mother, or the fact that she has so many friends coddling her and feeding into her insanity. This lady is truly disturbed.
Probably an anti-vaccination group she belongs to. Honestly, social media sites should use their right as a privately owned company to remove any kind of groups that promote these ideas. They are not required by any law to allow them to spread these lies and filth. I'm honestly shocked that spreading anti-vaccination propaganda isn't against their Terms of Service and End User License Agreement. Hell, it may be. And if it is, they need to start enforcing it.
Load More Replies...I understand the distrust of drug companies. And if I had a kid with severe allergies I might think twice about getting my child vaccinated. But ALL drugs can cause side effects in some people, but the danger of the disease usually outweighs the small risk of the vaccine.
Kids with severe allergies and other conditions that can't get vaccinated are the whole reason why it's so terribly important that children that are healthy need to get vaccinated. It's not only for their own sake, but also for the sake of others who can't get the shots themselves and rely on herd immunity. If you had a child with allergies, nobody would blame you for being afraid of drugs in general, I would be too.
Load More Replies...Terrifying. Who would wish ill on their own child to "teach them a lesson"? And then admit it on social media. What horrible, horrifying people.
So, I'm a firm believer that people can believe what they want and live they want. AS LONG AS they are not harming anyone else, putting anyone else at risk... Not vaccinating your kids and sending them out into the world is so incredibly dangerous. And stupid. And ignorant. I'm so proud of this girl for going and getting vaccinated despite her mom's crazy ranting. Good for her!!
The saddest part is the Lancet article all the anti-vaxers rely on was debunked 25 years ago. They would rather put their children at risk than believe the truth.
Smart kid deserves a better mother. There are many more young people who have found out their parents are idiots and have neglected their fundamental medical care due to deranged cult mentality. Thank goodness we can get these bright young people safely caught up on their shots.
WOW so many ignorant people on this earth ..Anti vaxers are sick sick people. Why would you endanger millions of other children by not getting your child vaccinated ? Completely selfish dangerous
"She just decided to listen to somebody who she deems more educated" you say it like she's wrong. What kind of person honestly thinks they know more than a doctor who went to school for many years? If anyone replied that this mother may be a doctor I'm just gonna ignore it because if she was I REAALLY doubt she'd be against vaccinations. Thank God the daughter is smarter than her incompetent mother
Anti-vaxxers are endangering children. Even if vaccinations DID cause autism, which it doesn't, what would you rather have: an autistic child or a dead child. The only thing even remotely wrong with vaccinations is that they hurt like hell, and even then a little distraction stops it all. Just vaccinate your kids already.
I'm more disappointed at how many people agreed with the mom? Like holy c**p, I wanted to scream the entire time I read this. People are ridiculous, but I'm glad she was smart enough to believe her doctor, a LICENSED PROFESSIONAL
When our kids were at the vaccine age, my wife and I were bombarded with the false information about vaccines causing autism among other things. Our oldest daughter had a slight reaction to her MMR so we stopped vaccines altogether and our youngest never got a single vaccine. Fast forward 20 years later and both my daughters chose to have all the vaccinations before attending college. I apologized to them since they both felt we put them in danger by not vaccinating.
My favorite part partea mea favorita "8 years I've been teaching her and she just decided to listen to somebody she deems more educated". Truth is hard.
If immunizations are so bad, why aren't all the previous generations going down like flies? Makes me sad about the future risk. Anybody up for another polio epidemic? I know me and mine are safe!
Sadly, because these people can become spreaders of those diseases, if you and yours have a compromised immune system due to an illness, or even just having to take steroids for some kind of medical treatment (they can weaken the immune system), you can become vulnerable to these easily prevented diseases. These self-righteous, circle-jerking, idiotic, science denying cretins aren't just putting themselves and their kids at risk. They are putting us all at risk.
Load More Replies...This is so deeply disturbing. I am committed to non-violence, and while I have always been an ardent feminist I am also a gentleman. But when confronted with this child abuse I want to slap this woman so hard she spins herself into the ground like a cheesy cartoon character.
Here's the difference...while you may have the URGE to, you DON'T. Although I could see sitting the dingus on a couch and slowly dumping all the evidence that PROVES that the lying liar that lied was wrong, and also his CONFESSION that the reason why he falsified the study was to sell his OWN formulation of vaccine.
Load More Replies...I wish they didn't block the names. That kind of crazy shouldn't be private.
She is a brave young woman with a huge amount of sense. It must have been really hard to go against her mothers' opinion like that. A big thank you from everyone else.
I'm concerned about the privacy violation. At 18, her doctor's office and insurance should have split off her account/health info from Mom's. Daughter would have to provide consent to give someone else access.
This woman and her friends are nuts. There is no proof vaccines are bad no matter want the internet says.
What's bothering me the most is that ignorant people such as these do not only hurt themselves but others too with their decisions! It really upsets me...
Maybe she wanted to make sure that she will not get sick with the mumps or another preventable illness when she's 30, and none of her friends catch anything because their parents were sane. Maybe she's sick of being afraid of catching stoppable illnesses that are deadly. Sometimes children are smarter than their parents!
Lol. I'm taking all AP and honors and still making A honor roll.
Load More Replies...Any mother who would refuse to have her children vaccinated should be arrested and her children taken away. What kind of ignorant, stupid person would do such a thing?
Oh my god!!! I hope she doesn't accidentally get healthy and become less of a risk to every single person she comes into contact with for the rest of her life!!! Are there really people who are this stupid in the world?
As rediculous as these people sound, I mean geeze, I have not given either of my children guardasill. And I won't. The FDA has a black label warning that specifically says NOT to give the new menengitis vaccine with guardasill. It has more of a chance to cause a terrible reaction. If you choose to give your children guardasill, make sure it's not at the same time as menengitis vaccines. Otherwise, I'm shocked at how stupid and rediculous these people sound!
I am a Nurse and studying to become a Nurse Practitioner. I am 100% in favor of the standard vaccinations that are currently on the market--the ones that have had years, and most DECADES of research and monitoring completed on them. They have been tried and proven highly successful, with very little overall risk but for a small few. I don't feel that way about The Giardisil vaccine. It needs further studies completed first, IMHO.
Load More Replies...Thank goodness the daughter was born with a brain. She should thank her grandparents.... they would have been apart of the generation that vaccinated her stupid mother which allowed her to lead a normal life and give birth to a healthy daughter.
My daughter contracted influenza (the big scary one) at 3 1/2 months MONTHS old and then developed a secondary respiratory infection 2 weeks later. She was placed on antibiotics and could have died. She gets every recommended vaccination and I will scream it from the roof tops. She has not gotten any other serious illness in her life. Vaccinate your kids for the good of public health.
I am so sorry to hear you and your family had to go through something like that. If any of my kids get that sick, I have no idea how I would handle it. All I know is that it would be 'not well' to a pretty severe degree.
Load More Replies...I am glad I leave in a country where vaccines are compulsory and enforced. Schools don't accept kids who did not get their vaccines. Rightfully so as kids catch illnesses so easily and they can spread quickly. A parent risks their child's health and life by choosing not to vaccine, unless they keep them locked up inside, away from human contact
It's quite possible that some people have bad reactions to vaccinations. I suppose it could be possible some illnesses that come on much later were somehow influenced by a vaccine, but there is no proof of that. Is (to use an example used by one of the people in the post) the rate of auto-immune diseases higher in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated? If so, show me the research. If not, then you don't even have the chance of a link between the two. Then there is the diseases the vaccines are actually for. Do these parents really believe the imagined risk of vaccines, to perhaps a few people, is more important that the 60,000 lives a year polio used to affect, and the thousands who died from it? They smugly go "while I'm OK" while they rely on the herd immunity (and common sense) of the rest of us to protect them. They may refuse vaccines, but they'd soon be in a panic if we were all so selfish.
What a pack of madwomen. Have they NEVER gone to a cemetery and seen the baby and children graves in the old section? Obviously not. LUDICROUS, CRIMINAL IDIOTS. Smart daughter.
This woman isn't abusive. She's just a concerned mother who is an idiot. To her its like telling her kid not to smoke her whole life and then she finds out her 19 yr old daughter is lighting up behind her back. She's not abusive, she's an idiot.
"But I meant well!" doesn't make abusive behavior un-abusive. That's the ugly thing about abuse. Many parents aren't aware of how cruel they are to their children because they think spankings/beratings/privacy violations/refusing to see a doctor when sick/pumping bleach up their kids' butt will do their kids good and help them to become better and healthier. Think of that one couple who treated their baby with essential oils and homeopathy, and the child died. They did not intend to torture and kill the child. But if these actions weren't considered abusive but just being an idiot, they wouldn't (rightfully) dragged to court. Being an idiot isn't punishable. Being abusive is and the motivation doesn't matter in the end if there's a suffering victim.
Load More Replies...Amazing how many ignorant people are still here on this planet. These anti vaxxers should go to third world countries and work in hospitals and see all the children getting sick and succumbing to illnesses we offer vaccines for.
Just leaving this here... https://www.boredpanda.com/immunologist-destroys-anti-vaxxer-explains-vaccines/
where is the logic, and how are so many people this stupid, there is no actuall evidince that vacines cause autsim, it's like saying"this brige is 99.97% safe. I think i'll swim" the reactions tha people have to vaccines are rare and treatable
I'd really like to beat the c**p out of all these so called parents. I swear the anti-vaxxer movement is just pure evil. They whine about imaginary toxins in vaccines, but give their kids bleach enemas - that's right - BLEACH ENEMAS! They call it Miracle Mineral Solution but it's really BLEACH. Autism has always been around. It's nothing new. It's just instead of blaming it on fairies like we used to (look up the folklore on The Changeling Child) we now know there's a medical reason - and now we know the reason. We're all born with a slew of neurosynaptic cells in our brain and we have a gene that tells us to "prune" them during our development in the womb. Well, people with Autism don't have that gene and therefore they don't do that pruning. So you're BORN with Autism. It's NOT caused by vaccines - which are safe - they're NOT caused by GMOs - which are also safe - they're NOT caused by chemtrails - which DO NOT EXIST - it's just caused by biology.
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10215415469637281&id=1153449901
THE GIRL DID THE RIGHT THING! IT'S THE MOTHER AND HER FRIEND(S) THAT SEEM TO BE WAAAAY OUT IN LEFT FIELD!
It honestly drives me crazy knowing that people in my family are exactly like this! Anti-abortion, anti-vax, etc. I was so lucky I ended up with my mom and not one of my uncles!
Ladies and gentlemen...we are on the verge of a Stupidity Singularity...
Good lord, this b***h and all her friends are r******d beyond belief. They should all just get together and have a Tide-Pod Party.
I put anti-vaxxers in the same category as climate deniers, flat earthers, and evolution deniers. They’re a bunch of simple minded idiots.
Wow! I am shocked by the ignorance and stupidity that people continue to believe that vaccines are the cause of....well... every disease or disorder. I am so tied of these people and their ignorance. One way that you can "adjust" their attitudes is make them financially responsible for any and all medical bills that a family incurs when the non-vaccinated kid infects another person. I say person instead of child because along with infants being too young to be vaccinated, the elderly, cancer patients, and others who's immune system is weak or compromised for whatever reason can be infected by the kid that has been infected and may be spreading measles, for example. Who should pay those bills? I think the parents of the non-vaccinated kid should pay. Hit them in the wallet. Personally I feel the amount of chemicals that are in our food supply, water and air are the reason for an increase of autism and such.
The clown who wrote this must live on an island. Anti-vaxxers are getting anything of the sort, but rather the movement is growing. Stay a SHEEP without looking into ir, Rokas.
I'm confused, did the daughter allow her doctor to give her a vaccination shot or did she allow her doctor to inject her with the ebola virus?
"Blablabla breach of trust blabla emotions yadayada prayers". Yeah, it's a cult. And a pretty severe one, at that.
As a former nurse, the diseases that kill are way worse than getting vaccinated. There is so much out there we don’t know, I feel vaccinating kids prevents them for the bad diseases we do know about and can stop! What if there were no polio vaccine? So many would have died, and did die, or spent the rest of their lives in an iron lung or unable to walk! Who would wish that on anyone? Small pox, OMG, why would you ever, in your life, prevent your child from having that vaccine?! How awful if your child got it, loved and was covered in pox scars for the rest of their life, because you, didn’t want to vaccinate your child?
Vaccines in theory are great-THE FDA'S INSIDIOUS NATURE OFALLOWING OTHER PATHOGENS TO SECRETLY ENTER THE BODY IS WHAT IS WRONG vaccines = great in utopian theory vaccines in our culture = government secretly puts more in the "vaccine" than that was is told to patient There are more molecules present in an HPV vaccine, than just the vaccine itself. I feel bad for the mom, she tried letting her know we live in a corrupt society; and that you can't trust others (including the Feds). Peace and Love to Everyone
How traumatic for the poor mom! Daughter discarded all Mom's misinformation and went and got vaccinated! Maybe DD should have stuck with Cocaine or Heroin, Mom wouldn't have been so upset. I mean, REALLY? This long winded, teary whinge about her daughter getting VACCINATED? I sincerely hope that's the worst DD ever does, otherwise this woman's going to end up in a trauma-induced catatonia....
What a bunch of delusional idiots. At least the daughter has more sense than those muppets. I feel sorry for all their kids that they stop from getting vaccinated.
The mother in question is the perfect example of a ‘yanktard’ This is not a public matter for her to espouse sympathy for her own private cause. However perhaps she should be perceived as a danger to public health and the relevant authorities notified.
Yeah, lets kill her because SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE! wright? Stupid people.... soon it will be illegal to think for yourself, just wait and see.... if this is what you are asking, this is what you and your children, and your grandkids will have soon: zero freedoms!
Load More Replies...With everything that had been going on lately, I really want to give these kinds of ”kids” a thumbs up! Good job!
I need to go to bed and lay down and rest I feel emotionally distraught after having to read that c**p. I hope all of you will gather round and support me while I get over the trauma of reading it. I means this woman and her friends are obviously idiots, but they supported her. Will you please support me till I get over this ordeal. LOL
Well isn’t that just tough f*****g s**t? Good on this young woman for taking responsibility for her health. She is going places.
Jesus christ. I knew there were people like this but my god are they really that f*cking ignorant?
Yes, and usually worse. I'm sure that is only the tip of the iceberg made of batshit.
Load More Replies...I can almost bet that mother is up to date on all her shots. She can thank her parents for looking out for her...
So how did this stupid mother get to see her daughter's private medical records?… Do American doctors give them out to the nosey parents of adults? … Don't start me on the idiots who're offering prayers and positive vibes… They aren't gonna cure anything.
I would think she'd be more concerned about how the mother found out! Absolutely none of mom's business, and I would have more than a few questions about dear old mom going through my mail.
A major reason why we do get as old as we do, on average, is vaccinations.
nothing to do with healthcare, hygiene or nutrition. noooooo, no, no, no, no...
Load More Replies...OK I know very little about the anti-vaccine movement, but why do people think that they're being lied to about the link with autism? After reading this I looked aound the web and although there was a fear of this back in the 90's it's no longer considered a threat and what motive do people think there is to spread autism in kids?
so why do some vaccines list autism as a possible outcome? or, go look at the first reported cases of autism and when the chemical thiomersal was introduced into vaccines, agricultural and wood treatment
Load More Replies...This is THE MOST RIDICULOUS thing I have read all day. Thank goodness for medical science, with the Polio vaccine, this HORRIBLE disease has been under control in Africa for decades. Anti vaxxers are all big talk, until their kid, gets something HORRIFIC like Polio and realize that they could have prevented it. SMH
She should have been arrested for child endangerment after missing the first vaccination. No one should have to wait for their own adulthood to be able to protect themselves from avoidable illnesses! If someone chooses to be ignorant for themselves, that's their business but when your made-up beliefs endanger others someone has to step in to protect those who can not protect themselves.
The mom had to make it all about herself. Thank God the doctor and the girl were smart enough to know she's at risk by not vaccinating.
At least the mothers conscience is clear. You can only parent for so long before kids make their own minds.
I'm just a little confused here. Which of the two of those do you think is in the right?
Load More Replies...I wish stupid hurt the parents, but kids pay when they contract horrible diseases. Have some whooping cough, mom, you twit
The mother needs to stop with trying to make the child feel guilty, as if she did something wrong. And the people that wised her ill will, you know who you are, how terrible! I hope this child grows to be happy and confident.
It's this type of belief that makes me fear even more for the future of our species.
I don't even know what to say about this. How are people in this day and age so stupid? I mean, it's one thing to put yourself in harms way by not getting vaccinated, but making your kids suffer too? Ridiculous...
It's incredible how delusional educated adults can be. Good for the daughter!
Is that seriously a thing? This all just looks like an elaborate joke...surely people can't be THAT dumb, right? Even if vaccines aren't 100% harmless in 100% of cases, it'd take a negative amount of braincells to assume being suscepted to the actual illnesses is better o_O
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If the daughter did not tell her, how did mother find out?!?! HIPAA prevents medical professionals from divulging her info, even if she is on mom's insurance. She is an adult, she has to fill out paperwork to ok the release of info. I'd consult an attorney. (If mom opened her mail, she's in violation of FEDERAL LAW, if the Dr told her, the Dr is)
Look I´m sorry your daughter went beyond your beliefs, but are they her´s. I am going to side with the daughter because anti-vax just seems stupid. She now has a better chance of living longer. If you don´t like it fine, but do not go online looking for sympathy. Stuff like this stay´s of the internet. You don´t go advertising it for sympathy and so your daughter gets hate comments. You may not like it but it was her choice.
And this is why measals is killing people in Australia in 2018. Sooner or later something like Small Pox will come back because idiots refuse to vaccinate! (Okay, so maybe Small Pox is an over exgaduration but you get my point.)
The daughter had to sneak to the doctor to get shots. The daughter was also concerned about how the mom found out... They hope she gets sick from them and that she should be removed from the health insurance. All of this is so disturbing on so many levels.
If someone has a reaction to a vaccine, then that simply means they're allergic to it, like anyone can be allergic to anything. But doctor probably have alternatives for those people, right? (This is a legitimate question)
My mind is blown. So she's going to be happy if her daughter dies of one of the illness she got a vaccine for? Will she be smiling around the hospital bed saying 'thank goodness you're dying from a disease that has a vaccine you could have got, I'd have hated you to get a vaccine'. It's disturbing. And the other adult's reactions are frightening. If you're worried about autism (even after reading the science.....) would you rather have a child with autism (who are not even sick, just different people in themselves) or a dead child? Hmmmm.............
How ignorant can people get? Bravo to the daughter who made an adult decision on her own behalf, and has had her vaccines. She is smarter than her mother and probably better informed.
These are the people who cause epidemics and should be fined for doing so...
These people who refuse to vaccinate their kids are gonna end up killing them just because they think they're smarter than a doctor (which they're not) There's also the fact that they're putting other children in danger by having them exposed to an unvaccinated child. A doctor knows best and if you want your child to die or suffer or WHATEVER their goal is then go ahead. You're willing to put your childs life at risk just to be petty but whatever.
Poor, stupid mother! She should be thrilled that her daughter is independent, smart, and forward thinking! The children of other antivaxxers should follow her lead!
There was a discussion recently: What if the kid who was not vaccinated got sick and spread a disease to other kids who were vaccinated. Would the un-vaccinated kid and its parents be liable for damages in spreading the disease?
Mom is so ...... my son had his as soon as he was old enough for each one . I thank the lord every day he is doing great .
Why was this mother reading her adult daughter's after care summary? This is a very sick woman and her friends are just perpetuating her illness. I applaud her daughter for making her own decisions in life as it is just that, her life!!
Are you kidding this mother must be out to lunch. I have 8 kids and 31 grandkids. They all have had their vaccines and are quite healthy I also also have 2 nephews with autism and neither one have it because of vaccines. My done is also a P A and he told me vaccines has nothing to do with autism So is this mother a doctor or just some body that thinks she knows it all Lady get more info
When she gets cancer from the vaccine she will wish she had listened to her momma.
I've had not one vaccine in 20 years and not one days missing school or work from being sick.
All these comments are giving me hope for humanity. Thank you. My God these Anti-Vaxxers are so insanely stupid and they are hurting so many people.
Oh for f**k sake. Get a grip mum. It's not like she's killed someone. She's an adult, can do whatever she wants with her own body and is obviously sensible enough to not listen to any of the c**p that her mother and her cronies are spouting. Smart girl.
So makes me wonder if the mother is also a member of the flat earth society
The way they are talking make it sounds like she went and did something horrible! If you didn't know they were talking about vaccines, you'd think she should be put in jail. The one wishing for the poor girl to have a reaction is a psycho!! Vaccines have eliminated some of the most horrific diseases known to man. These people need a little education about polio, measles and chicken pox long term effects. I hope this young lady stays strong.
The EOB rats out another one. Most teens and young adults have no idea that the insurance company sends the policy owner (their parents) an EOB (Explanation of Benefits) after every time they use medical services. An EOB generally includes the name of the doctor, the date, and any tests or medicines given. Like vaccines. Or birth control. To ensure future medical privacy, the daughter (or any teen on their parent's insurance, or any abused person on their abuser's policy) needs to call the insurance company directly and ask what privacy options they have. Most of the time, you can request the EOB form be sent directly to you, under your name, rather than the policy holder. You might also be able to request they send the EOB to you via email, to avoid receiving paper mail if you're at the same address. If they can't do this, the insurance company might offer "filtered" or "masked" EOBs which will leave off details of the treatment, or conceal the medical billing codes.
The real crime here is the unnecessary attack on grammar and spelling. Ashameful!!1!!!!111!!1!
Maybe the 19 year old woman wanted to go to college (most require up-to-date vaccinations), not get easily prevented diseases that could cause permanent heart damage and infertility, and not be a potential carrier for those same diseases that could infect all those non-vaccinated kids out there.
I thank God this stupid mindset did not rule in the 1900's or we would still have Polio, Smallpox etc. etc.! what total idiots
did you know epidemic numbers were going down through better healthcare, hygiene and the likes LONG before the vaccinations started?
Load More Replies...An echo chamber of ignorance and stupidity. I'm surprised and relieved that the daughter wasn't brainwashed.
I think the mom is very selfish. There are no guarantees about vaccines, but does she have the right to stop her daughter from infecting innocent persons? I also think she needs to read more on the subject and sit with a mother whose child is dying from something that could have been prevented from the use of vaccines.
I was born before they had these immunizations available and thank goodness my boys didn't have to go through what I did as a child with the measles, mumps and chickenpox. BTW, my dad didn't have the mumps as a child and guess who got the mumps about a week or so after my brother and I finished up with ours, our dad. Mumps in an adult male, or one out of puberty, can be a serious matter. It put my dad in the hospital at the time for two weeks.
For the mama: when you grow up with friends struck by polio? You should have vaccinated your girl. You are a very lucky mama that your daughter never caught one of those nasty viruses that could have disabled her for life. At the same time: as a mother you should be critical of anything that you "feed" your kid, whether that is food or medication. I applaud you for being critical, but you should have been more critical of the anti-vaccination program.
"She [the daughter] was more concerned about how I found out." I'm concerned too. Was the after-visit summary mailed to their home? If the mother opened her daughter's mail, that's an offense. If she read her daughter's protected health information, that's another offense (HIPPA).
These screen shots were taken from a CLOSED/private support group page :-( Not cool. By the way, it has almost 130,000 members.
These anti-vaxxers are a menace. Gullible, stupid, afraid of the boogeyman. Suspicious of people who spend decades getting educated to be able to help others. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be in terror of "them" all of the time.
That woman is a FOOL. When I was a child I had ALL the available vaccines and never had any adverse reactions.
That woman is a FOOL. I had all the available vaccines when I was a child and never had a SINGLE adverse reaction.
What sort of parent is not only okay with another person wishing harm on her child, but agrees with that person?! Oh, yeah, the kind who is abusive. Which anti-vaxxers are. We need to start charging them with manslaughter when their sick kids kill babies (which has already happened). Maybe that will wake them up. But even if not, it will get them the f**k off the street.
what a crazy mom! And her friends are absolutely horrid, one hoping she has a horrible reaction to "teach her a lesson".
Too bad Bored Panda seems to think that the Vaccine War is a war of the Righteous against the loonies. Well - in truth there is a lot of good evidence based on scientific facts and studies on both sides. only - guess where the money goes? I for my part am very glad to live in Switzerland where we can make our own decisions. recently a study came out confirming that unvaccinated children are overall healthier...
Domenica, I agree. From now one I will stop visiting bored panda. I have an unvaccinated son of 18 months and trust me he is healthier that any other kid. He had no flu, no alergies, he is full of energy meanwhile a lots of kids of his age (vaccinated) have a lots of allergies, skin irritations, etc. Manny DOCTORS demonstrated that the vaccines are not safe! I made a vaccine myself 3 years ago, and since then I constantly have some allergies and irritations on my skin, it is terrible, I am scratching like a monkey all the time.
Load More Replies...I think, I'm general people. Red to be careful of what they read (research wise) on the internet. Internet addresses that end in ".com" are typically individuals or even companies, but the "information" they share is not peer reviewed (or verified). Web addresses that end in ".org" are--look to these, ESPECIALLY when seeking medical advice or information.
I am having a flashback to age 18 when I was away at school and came home for a holiday and had a check up. The nurse called my mother to warn her I might have an STD. It was a yeast infection!!!!! I had just started a BC pill. Mother had a hissy fit and I was 18!! There are privacy laws. I feel for this young woman.
Ignorance at its best. Thank God this girl is smarter than her mother (and friends.) Probably did her own research. My favorite are the friends that told Mom to go with her to the doctors....Ummm friends, do you really think mommy gets to go into the exam room with her 19 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER? SMH
Ignorance at it's best. Kudos to this young woman - keeping herself (and others) safe.
Good for her. But I hope she didn´t recieved all 6 vaccines in one session. That would be stupid.
I wish there was a vaccin against the virulent stupidity that is spreading through the "developed" world (most prominently the US and the Muslim world). I hope education is the vaccine. Then again, unfortunately home schooling is allowed in the US, so (on average) ignorant idiots are raising a new generation of ignorant idiots. And in Islamic countries laws dictate that schools need to spread nonsense. There is a ray of hope in this story in that respect: the daughter allowed herself to be informed by a professional instead of believing her mother.
This HAD to be on some sort of anti van Facebook page group. Because I can not see at all this being on a private persons Facebook and that many people agreeing with her. Not sure what this persons way of thinking makes any sense. And it infuriates me that it is fine getting other people sick with serious diseases because they're dumb enough to not get vaccines. Good job, daughter. Let your mom cry on Facebook.
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Oh my f***ing god. I mean, i laughed out loud at this lady's stupid faulty logic, but it is really saddening that there are people like that out there. I am glad her daughter is smarter and more logical than her and is escaping her brain washing attempts.
Anyone else disturbed that this mother wants to follow her grown daughter around (aka stalking) to keep her from getting the rest of her vaccinations?
I get that people want someone to blame for their child’s autism, I really do. And these people are absolutely CONVINCED they’re sentencing their child to this condition by vaccinating and don’t want to roll the dice. Unfortunately, the more the anti-vaccine movement grows, the less protection these children will have from herd immunity. I am terrified for the future and what the outcome will be. These people are not going to wake up until they’re forced to, and I fear it’s going to take a lot of deaths of innocent children for this to happen.
Thankfully the 19 year old, in spite of her mom's ignorance, managed to grow up to be a logical, reasonable person. If this is what the mom chooses to be heartbroken over, she is a pathetic excuse of a parent.
Wow with all the vaccines given since their inception, this should be a world filled with dead or horribly sick people. I never knew there were sooo many people dying. there must be trillions by now...(I wonder where they are all buried??) Guess you just can't fix stupid
My husband had hpv throat cancer. He almost died, it was horrible. He is two years out and has to get a pet scan once a year. I asked my son to get vaccinated. I pray he will. Why would you risk your childs health like that?
Why do we have this ridiculous war on science. It seems large numbers of people believe 1) That the AIDS virus was manufactured 2) Engineers created a car that runs on water 3) The medical community is hiding a cure for cancer 4) We are suppressing perpetual motion machines 5) Fluoride in water is making us complacent 6) Man never landed on the moon 7) Genetically Modified Food is dangerous 8) vaccines are dangerous 9) Man made climate change is a liberal conspiracy 10) The earth is on 6000 years old and evolution is a secularist myth. When will it end?
And why isn't anyone bothering to rally against things like cocaine abuse in men and women? There's a definite correlation between parental abuse of this drug and things like ADHD in offspring.
So many stupid people ,sad when the child has to be the adult !!!! I have 4 children and yes 1 has autism wasn't caused by vaccines as he was he showed symptoms from birth . Am upset ,outraged NO I'm happy my child is still alive and died due to the stupidity of other , my God woman I feel so sorry for you and praise your daughter highly for showing the backbone and intelligence it takes to defy your stupidity and keeping herself safe !!!!!
I can't believe this mom is that careless and stupid to think her daughter is killing herself with much needed vaccines. If anybody can shut this mother up is her own damn daughter!! And In laughing at the fact that her mother seemed like she s**t herself when she found out the way she did. But good for her for doing what she is doing. She's a big girl. She don't need mommy telling her what to do!! Or what she can't get. And if I was this mother's daughter best believe I would cuss her a*s out and put her in her place! You're only going to get sicker if you you don't get vaccinated. Since you don't. I don't recommend you EVER stepping foot outside or you'll get us vaccinated people sick! Enough said
In the past few years there have been at least 3 major universities that have published basically that the flu vaccines are not good for you and maybe even bad. They office little to no protection and some may even damage our immune systems. If I remember correctly the American ones were YALE and John Hopkins. Also how many of us who were born in the 50's to early 60's now have simian virus in us due to contaminated vaccines and now have/had cancer????
So. My story. In my childhood and teens I had a phobia of needles and doctors in general (still have it in my forties, learn to control it). They couldn't vaccinate me, because 4 people weren't enough to restrain me, so they could stick a needle in me. When I was 14 however, the high school I really wanted to go to wouldn't let me enroll unless I had the basic vaccines. So I made an appointment by myself, got the vaccines, and finished the school. Since then I am still the only person who can "restrain" me in medical procedures, but I am still grateful to the strict school rules. And I'm happy to live in a country, where basic vaccines are mandatory. The thing that pops in my mind reading about the whole anti-vax movement is something like: F**************ck! Why are there still people this stupid in the 21st century?
Ummmmmm, she 19. Hello, legally she's an adult. Oh, one question. Did she die?
Wonder if this 19 year old ADULT daughter know her mom violated her privacy by reading the doctor's note? There's a law about that, just a little thing called HIPAA...
My mother is 92. When she was a school kid in the 1930s, she had class mates die of whooping cough, diptheria, polio, and scarlet fever. Vaccines against those things hadn't been invented. When I was a school kid in the 1960s, not a single one of my class mates died of any infectious disease. My kids went to school in the 1990s/2000s and not one of their classmates died of any infectious disease. Would anyone care to hazard a guess as to what made the difference?
So I got all the vaccines when I was younger so my sister did and all my generation and the one after me and so on. I am ok so my sister is and all my friends. In our country we are complaining that we don’t receive enough vaccines for all kids. Idk what happened with all these people...
It's so devastating to see anti-vax mothers like this... There's so much conflicting information about what's best for your children, and so much pressure on mothers to do the right thing/be super-mom. There is overwhelming scientific evidence that shows that there is no link between vaccines and autism (which sparked the whole debate). But the fear has spread. It spreads through parents and mommy fb groups like wildfire and it's hard to stop because the whole debate targets the justified fears of parents. Even many parents who "accept" giving their kids vaccines, ask to "space-out" the vaccine schedule just to be safe (even though, medically, there's no reason to). Scared/confused parents will look things up online and find things that scare them. Then they "research" it and find more and more like-minded people with the same fears... These people clearly care for the well-being of their children as #1 priority...yet they're unknowingly putting their children at risk. So sad :/
You have got to be kidding me! Don't you know that schools, are not letting children go to class, unless they are vaccinated? They don't want the child that isn't vaccinated to infect other children! That is the smartest thing ever! Seriously lady, take you head out of the sand!
Crackpots. Unfortunately, this 'movement' is making it easier for old diseases we had almost eradicated to gain a new foothold. It really disappoints me that people are so willing to be misled.
Two years ago, one of my best friends died of HPV throat cancer. There is no vaccine reaction that is worse than what he went through or the fact he died at age 56. And don't get me started on tetanus. I ride horses, and tetanus is a major concern. Get those boosters!
So her mom went to medical school? Everyone is different, some people have a reaction and some don't. No one can predict it, but I'd rather have a vaccine than the disease
My god... you'd think she'd been caught on tape boinking the pope. What is wrong with people? Would it be better if she'd died of a preventable disease? WTF?
Surely this whole conversation is a made up joke. People out there really think this way? That's insane! I mean, to each their own, but I'm so glad the daughter was able to escape this prison her mother fully intended her to choose to remain in. And the people replying and sympathyzing?! Wow. Just wow. I'd feel the same if they were talking about aliens taking over the bodies of people around them.
Probably an anti-vaccination group she belongs to. Honestly, social media sites should use their right as a privately owned company to remove any kind of groups that promote these ideas. They are not required by any law to allow them to spread these lies and filth. I'm honestly shocked that spreading anti-vaccination propaganda isn't against their Terms of Service and End User License Agreement. Hell, it may be. And if it is, they need to start enforcing it.
Load More Replies...Read dozens of books about this subject, talk with parents that have kids with severe reactions 2 hours after vaccines, have yourself a strong reaction after your vaccine.... things like these make us to unvaccinate.
Load More Replies...Good for the daughter. The mother should be arrested for attempted murder since vaccines save lives and if you don't vaccinate your children you're saying you want them to die. Susan Smith was more humane in the way she murdered her children than anti-vaxxers are in the way they're trying to murder their's.
Oh no your offspring is living her own adult life, how awful that she lives by her own beliefs now. I think the mother needs to grow up more then the daughter.
Not one person said that vaccines are good and it’s actually WAY more dangerous to not have them?
Nop, so so sad. I think we should protect our kids and leave them to eat, inject and drink all the toxic things....
Load More Replies...Yeah, but we are not all the same! If I am allergic at something it does not means that you are too. If I fall and break my neck does not mean that you will break your neck too if you fall....
Load More Replies...Yes. How did you find out? I'm glad she's smart enough to be proactive about her health.
These people need to be deliberately exposed to the Polio virus. Let them argue against vaccination from wheelchairs (or worse). (Yes, that's horrible, but no worse than deliberately exposing children to crippling and fatal diseases).
Opposition to vaccines is based on fear and ignorance, they clearly don't know how vaccines work and think they're full of things like lead and mercury.
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We depend on 'herd immunity', so we don't have another polio epidemic or worse. That's why you get vaccinated. I worked near Boulder, CO and talk about antivaxxers- we have pertussis outbreaks regularly, because of these nut jobs. So we have newborns and elderly at risk. These diseases we get vaccinated for are a distant memory for this generation, but ask any baby boomer who had measles, or mumps, or worse- polio. These diseases kill, and can land an adult in ICU. You can't fix stupid. But the daughter should get her mom off her HIPPA- I would like to know how the mother found out.
I've become more and more aware lately that there are none so blind as those that will not see. The FB commentor in the article above, who said "I could totally see my daughter doing that and rubbing it in again and again when she didn't die" is the perfect example of wilfull blindness. It isn't about the facts (which I have a sneaking suspicion she knows are true) it's about control......and thinking that you, as a parent know what is "best" for your child more than someone with a degree. I hope more kids go out and do this when they hit 18.
I admit, when the anti-vaxxers started out - it made me a little afraid. I'm 70 in a few days - have been sick VERY VERY little during my life - My sons got everything available - I HAD the Measles, and Mumps, and Chicken Pox. The boys got the chicken pox, but none of the others, thank God. When I joined the Army, I got 10 shots in one arm (with that nifty little gun thing) and one in the other - one two separate occasions - guess what? I didn't die!!!!!!! Woo Hoo! I would do it again. After all these years, they're probably due again anyway LOL Got a Tetanus again a couple of years ago after I stepped on a nail. THIS woman, in THIS article, is one un-educated person. I have a friend like that on FB - Oh and SHE"S allllll about everything in the universe being a Govt Conspiracy, too.
The daughter is smarter than her Mom and Mom's friends. And did I read it correctly? Her Mom said she is going to talk her out of ever vaccinating her daughters children!!!
After every (piece of b******t) thing you tried to teach her she used her brain anyway and made an evidence-based decision about HER OWN BODY based on EXPERT ADVICE. OMG you had better just curl up in a ball and weep.
I have known too many whose lives were destroyed or seriously disrupted by diseases that these vaccines prevent. Friends who survived polio, only one made it without withered limbs. So many friends and family who have dealt with shingles because of the chicken pox, and more. Good for the daughter for taking charge of her own health. These rabid anti-vaxers are only a half step away from thosd cretins who let their children die of easily treated issues such as a kidney or other infection because they will only allow prayers as treatment and refuse to take them to a doctor.
i didn't realise it was so bad here. this is just painful to read. god help anyone who breaks the mold
Load More Replies...Antivaxxers are a parasite, they survive on the herd immunity built on mass vaccination. Maybe small pox or something will come thru and they will become a self solving problem. They are a cancer upon humanity.. Disgusting.
You don't say.... I imagine that you have this opinion because you read A LOT about this subject, I mean I read dozens of books and my opinion is according to that... so, did you read even one book about vaccines?
Load More Replies...Tfw your parents won't listen to you about something you know more about, but still, and then they ask their friends and they agree with them. Wtf
This "mother" is not only highly ignorant and ineducated, she is also deeply selfish. All parents should be OBLIGED to give vaccines to their children. IT is not all about YOUR CHILD, for f**k sake!!. There are other children who cannot get vax due to other conditions. Vaccination preserves the group and it is A DUTY OF EVERY SINGLE ONE to provide their offspring with vaccines. If you don't wanna live in a society, go to a desert island, as the society implies a Group and not a bunch of single people all caring for themselves only. GO VAX!!
As a doctor I can understand how lay people might consider taking vaccine is bad for health. Coz they have no understanding of the science behind it. But the way these r behaving is incredulous. They r acting like she assaulted or raped somebody. This is crazy.
So sorry mom that your parents did you the favor of vaccination (most likely) and you tired out okay and that your daughter has common sense. Also she's 19...she is legally allowed to go without you and make her own decisions. It's very concerning that you would try to stop her...
I don't know why the mom has to freak out about the fact that her daughter decided to make her own life decisions, and that she can make her own choices. In the end, the child may not listen to the parents, and in this case for very good reasons
The replies seem very emotional & vicious. They are quite judgemental & assume they are so much better informed than the concerned mother & her friends. There are always fervent views & perhaps we should try to respect other people's views & choices.
Why are you protecting the identies of these people? They posted all this stuff publicly. If they're going to be propagating false and dangerous (not to mention stupid) information, they should be outed for it.
Seriously. Unique individuals in this world. So she was vaccinated. Parents we raise our children to the best of our ability. The daughter has made her decision let her be.
This is why we need to have education...she f*****g thinks she knows more then a DOCTOR?
I was ready to jump through the screen and start going momma bear on some stupid people...
Mom is one giant drama filled idiot! Her daughter is an adult and can take care of herself, which she is doing!!!
FFS these people are horrible! Wishing the girl gets sick?! She is 19,she has a job,shes a bloody adult! Hopefully,she makes enough money to move out and leave the pathetic mother and her nut bag friends behind...And whats with all the "prayers"?!
I cant believe people are truly this r******d. They shouldnt be allowed to reproduce. Oh well, at least the daughter had someone influence her enough to get rid of the moronic views of her mother.
Genuinely bad people. If the reason you don't want your kids to have the vaccine is because you're afraid they'll have a bad reaction, why in God's name would they want a child who gets the vaccine to have a bad reaction? They need therapy.
Um...what's her facebook?(is that fb? Not sure) I really want to scream at her! Doctors are there to help you not try and do whatever you think you they did to your child xD this is so stupid
I see that you are very bored, find yourself a real job instead of texting to strange people.
Load More Replies...I am trying to respect their decisions but seriously! I mean, why react so harshly. Vaccines work you idiots! It is a lot more dangerous to not get them! I fully 100% support that 19 year old girl.
If vaccines are "perfectly safe" WHY did the Federal Government make it illegal to sue the manufacturers? Who would be suing them if nothing ever goes wrong?
Anti vaxxers are human scum. Their decision to let their children contract things like measles and whooping cough and the full effects of flu after flu when they could at least reduce the *likelihood and severity* of those diseases is torturous, sick, nightmarish abuse. Every last one of them deserve to have their kids taken away, at minimum. Moreso, anti vaxxers deserve to be beaten and kicked off the planet. They're evil, evil, subhuman trash.
Sorry the kid - and so many pro-vaxassination people are so damn stupid. Vaccines are NOT as safe and nowhere NEAR as effective as you are told - by companies that make billions off of them. CDC alone makes $6,000,000,000 per year on JUST their flu shots - and they hold 52 patents in related products - and are a Dunn & Bradstreet private corporation who is owned by the US Govt with 60% of it's shares. Duh - they get $$$ Until you idiots can explain the reason agammaimmunoblobuminaemia proves vaccine theory flawed - just shut the hell up with your idiotic parroting of the "safe and effective" b******t mantra. Until you can explain the OAS - Original Antigenic Sin and understand how this PROVES that more flu shots make your immune system less effective in fighting flu - shut the hell up. Until you can tell me about the S Korean chicken pox history from 2005-2015 and explain away how AGAIN there is zero herd immunity from vaccines - shut up. When you learn that "herd immunity" was based
based upon studies of MDs in the 1930s & 40s and that it ONLY had any effect with NON - VACCINE natural disease events - you won't understand that ZERO vaccines EVER can, have, or will provide immunity. Herd immunity from vaccines is a total myth. You people out here just repeating what you've heard from some money-making "expert" are sick ones. You know so damn little about the subject but are willing to accuse the mother of all sorts of even criminal offenses - Munchausen by Proxy my a*s. You fools don't even know that the flu shot causes more deaths and more damages by number than any other shot - as it makes your immune system less effective. You don't know that HPV vaccines have the highest per capita death/damage rate. You don't know that vaccines have been PROVEN to cause autism - 83 X the NVICP (oh - you jokers don't even know what the hell that is, do you, or VAERS?) had to pay out for PROVEN VACCINE DAMAGES CAUSING NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE INCLUDING AUTISM!!!! Official, in the b
Load More Replies...Actually there are two sets of evidence. The other one shows that the magnesium in the vaccines can brake your cells, so you will develop lifelong cronicle diseases - perhaps even autism. I don't know. The med-companyes are strong - and pursuasing... Which sience is right????
Never vaccinated. Never will, The Pharm industry have most of you by the balls i see. Meh to the sheeple
I would be absolutely devastated too. SIX vaccines including one of the most dangerous (HPV)? Luckily our boys have seen first hand the damage vaccines can do in their little brother and are as wary as I am. I'm sure this mum's reaction is funny to some, but when you've seen the consequences first hand, vaccine damage is no laughing matter. It's heartbreaking, and it never goes away. I dearly hope this girl is ok.
This is a trash article. It's mean-spirited, has garnered a lot of hate, including talk of hoping anti-vaxxers die. It pushes a narrative and is just plain cruel. Isn't there anything better to report on than some random lady we don't even know is real?
For all of the people flipping out, not capable of understanding parents fear over these vaccines...#1 Have you done YOUR research as to what is IN ALL of the vaccines children get?? #2 I know that it is time consuming, and that you may gain some knowledge, but, you had better have a look at the documentary called VAXXED. It is not saying whether vaccinations are good or bad. But, they DO now have ABSOLUTE evidence that the CDC fudged their numbers PURPOSELY.
And do you know WHY all that stuff is in the vaccines?
Load More Replies...https://thepeopleschemist.com/reasons-dont-vaccinate-children-vaccine-supporters-shouldnt-give/
Shame on you bored panda for this article. Have any of you done the massive in depth research it takes to choose to not vaccinate? no. I commend the moms I know who choose not to vaccinate for the amount of work they put in to make the best decision for their child. I'm talking months and months of legit research. People would have you think they are crazy but believe me they are not doing it on a whim. They are doing more research than they ever have in their lives for what is best for their children. Unless you've gone through it, you have nothing to say.
people say about how toxic it is to read the mum's post and replies - can they even read all these pro-vax comments in a neutral light and not say the same thing. some of these comments are simply disgusting
Load More Replies...Have you met the children that had some of the diseases that are preventable by vaccines? Oh, wait, you can't. They're dead!
Load More Replies...Well, you can't get autism if you die from polio. THINK what you READ
Load More Replies..."The vaccination debate is ongoing for a reason" The "wrong" reason.
Load More Replies...This is not an "american problem". I had a very gringy talk with a mother in France, that was anti-vaxxer because 2 of her kids were autists. I was sooo sick she was talking those s**t in front of her sons. I understand that having kds that do not enter "the norm" can be scary, that you can be angry and have to find a target for your anger but, it was so heartbreaking to listen to her while she was giving us detail about her kids medical condition (their private!!) and basically telling us she has to live with those difficult kids because of vaccins. For god sake her sons were sitting next to her and I'm sure this wasn't the first time they were hearing all those negative talks about themselves... I feel that in "western" countries we think that we're going to die old and forgot what it is to be scared of epidemics
Load More Replies...That was intensely stupid. Thank you for demonstrating that antivaxxers are idiots.
Load More Replies...Lemme see....because she's a narcissistic child abuser with the mental age of about four who can't understand why she can't let her child die?
Load More Replies...Wow! You're a horrible person! Maybe you should eat tide pods instead
Load More Replies...Riiiight. Child abuse makes her a "concerned" parent?
Load More Replies...Holy s**t. I was not aware that so many people where this stupid. "Dont get vaccines that help you to not get sick". " They will make you sick". "Yes, the dead, miniscule amount of germs will make you sick.
Load More Replies...Wow. What a pip. Classic child abuser. She's actually hunting for sympathy because her daughter doesn't want to die from cervical cancer. She's a piece of work. ...One thing the daughter can do is tell her physician that her medical information shouldn't be sent to her mother any more. She is a legal adult and she has the right to keep her personal information private. ... I suspect that if she does that, Mommy Dearest will threaten to take her off insurance, but that will just prove that she needs to get away from her abuser.
This mother's greatest achievement is that against all odds she has raised a daughter smarter than her.
I hope all these people have no children, and do not go to public places either.
Load More Replies...I would like to take a moment, while we're talking about vaccines, to talk about autism. Autism is not caused by vaccinations. The cause of autism is unknown, and scientists are working really hard to find out what causes it, but we know for sure vaccines are not the answer. Now, I would like to talk about autism itself. Autism is a developmental disorder that is on a huge spectrum. I myself was born with very mild autism, meaning I can go about my normal life most of the time with some social difficulties. However, it can range to the point where some cannot speak, and still need help with basic tasks. Ok, now that I got that out of the way... Please do not talk to people with autism like babies! It drives me mad! Also, please, do not talk about a person with autism to another person when the person with autism is nearby! We can hear you just fine, we're not stupid! Thank you for reading my rant. If you have any questions, comment below
My nephew was born with severe autism and has a lot of difficulties, but I never speak to him like a baby. I can tell he understands everything that is said to him, but he has trouble communicating what he is thinking or feeling. Sometimes people talk to him like he's stupid and it makes me angry. The kid has a memory like a steel trap. I see him every weekend and as soon as i walk in the door he begins his routine of asking me a lot of questions (where's my house, where's my clothes, where's my car Sandy, etc.) He has a long list of questions and every so often he'll throw in a question about something he heard or saw months ago. His memory is amazing. He is truly special and gifted and i wouldn't change him for the world. But to make a long story short, thank you for bringing up the fact that is has nothing to do with vaccines and especially for asking people to not treat people with autism like they're babies.
Load More Replies..."I hope she had an awful reaction" F**k these people.....................hard
That person is a terrible, terrible person. Wishing someone ill like that? So messed up.
Load More Replies..."8 years I've been teaching her and she just listens to someone she deems more educated." Yeah like a f*****g doctor who went to medical school? I'm pretty they know more about that s**t than you do after reading some articles on Facebook lady
So much people without any medical/scientific/AnythingUsefulInThisSituation formation, who still think they KNOW how vaccines work after 5 minutes of research on google...Pitiful, but Isaac Asimov was right saying "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"...and not only in US, sadly...
It's Idiocracy. Soon enough we'll be watering crops with Mountain Dew.
Load More Replies...She probably would have all right with the heroin...if is was organic.
Load More Replies...I had Guillian Barre syndrome and am not allowed to take several different vaccines, so it is crucial that those around us are vaccinated!!! I was also a child born with a faulty immune system and was sick with everything except measles. Anti vaxxers are deadly to people with compromised immune systems!!!
That's another thing people don't consider, is that some people are more susceptible than others, so when you don't vaccinate your child you're not only putting them at risk, but someone else's kid too
Load More Replies...I mean you can believe in what you want but don’t force it on your children.... At least that’s what I believe
I agree, but in this case, the anti-vaxers believe vaccines are actual poison, so they think they're saving their lives. It's a bit like when your parents teach you against drug abuse, for example. Sure, we know about the importance of vaccines, but these people believe in conspiracies.
Load More Replies...My mom also is against vaccinations and never got me or my brother vaccinated, he's twenty now and I'm seventeen, I told her I wanted to be vaccinated and she said that even if she doesn't agree with it it's my choice, so I'm glad she at least doesn't try and fight me about it
people in Africa are screaming crying and dying for vaccins!!!!! you stupid ignorant woman...you did a search on google, and now you are an expert?? I FORBID YOU TO RUN TO A DOCTOR WHEN YOU GET ILL!!
This is so stupid. I'm glad my parents aren't complete idiots and get me vaccinated
She raised a young woman who felt strong enough in her own beliefs and decisions to go do What she felt was right for her body. If the mom did her best to educate, isn't it saying something that the daughter is smart enough to make her own choices? Did she want to raise a person who only thinks just like her?
Yes. She did. She believes the b******t, and even though HER parents vaccinated her, she wants her daughter to suffer.
Load More Replies...Until the child is an adult the parent I can make medical decisions... but good lord let the girl be! She's a legal adult and can make her own medical decisions. Smart girl doing her own research and talking to a health care provider.
The parent shouldn't have to decide, it should and must be mandatory. It's not a matter of choice.
Load More Replies...A bunch of delusionals fulfilling one another’s paranoia. I don’t know how you fight this level of idiocy 😨
Anti-vaxxers are flat-earthers who can harm *everyone*. They read articles without any actual knowledge of the topic, ignore the debunking, b/c it makes them feel better to think (???).... Than to eradicate measles, mumps, whooping cough, smallpox, polio --- y'know, disease that can kill, maim for life, small problems like *that*!
I say, SEGREGATE students who's parents don't vaccinate! let's see which group has the higher mortality rate. "Sorry your kid can't go with the group to the excursion, some kids have just recovered from chicken-pox, and you haven't vaccinated, its too risky for your child."
Load More Replies...Would like to get this mom on a plane TODAY, get her to a region of the world without access to vaccines. She can explain to the sick that they are lucky they didn't get the vaccines, their life devastating illnesses aren't really that bad.
Here is a picture of the Bridge family's children. Please look at and think. 12 beautiful children GONE. This is what happens when you can't vaccinate. Take full advantage of modern medicine my friends. grave-5a98...c04946.jpg
I'm truly horrified. I have a rare primary immunodeficiency disorder and I cringe every time I go into the doctor's office and there's some person (most likely not vaccinated) coughing their germs all over. I get every vaccine that I can, but some don't "take". I have no immunity to measles, for example, and I get warned whenever there's a local case. Then, I have to stay inside to avoid those who haven't been vaccinated. I was hospitalized with flu complications before vaccines were readily available to me. Because of my immune disorder, every time I get something minor like a cold, it escalates and I get very sick. I cannot believe that there are still people out there who think that a vaccine is dangerous. Those are the folks that I'm afraid of ... their ignorance may kill me some day.
I can kind of understand from their perspective *if* they truly thought they were having to decide between autism or the chance of contracting an illness; that would be a tough call for any parent to make, but it’s cases like yours that truly devastate me. People like you are counting on the rest of us to not get them sick and it’s not fair that you have to be scared of the world. It wasn’t your choice to be immunized-compromised, and it shouldn’t be theirs to put you in danger by not vaccinating.
Load More Replies...In Latvia the more serious vaccines are mandatory by law. Why isn't it like that in the USA?
Due to recent outbreaks, many states have already, or are in the process of, revoking the ability to "opt out" of routine vaccinations.
Load More Replies...Doesn't anybody believe in REAL science anymore? This woman and these commenters apparently subscribe to voodoo and not scientific understanding! It's a sad world with all of these people getting all of their knowledge from Facebook postings! Listen people, go and vaccinate!
Trust me, people who practice Voodoo are far more sane than Anti-Vaxxers.
Load More Replies...First of all, the anti-vaxxers show a clear prejudice against autism. o what, if your child is born autistic? How is that any different from having a child being born with one less/one plus chromosome (which has nothing to do with vaccines but with genetics, pure and simple?). Do these people support "eugenics" as well? Refusing to vaccinate your child can harm a community, a city, a whole country. Out of "beliefs". In this context, I would call the anti-vaxxers *fanatics* - people that believe in something with such determination that they simply shut their ears because their brains no longer function alone - they're on a heard level. I've never heard anything good coming from fanatics. By the way, autism is not at all bad as they try to picture it. Is it a little more difficult to raise andrelate to an autistic child? Indeed. But it's even harder to bear with the death of a child that could have been prevented. http://autismmythbusters.com/general-public/famous-autistic-people/
Wanna see my beautiful autistic son? Yup, it’s a challenge, but I wouldn’t trade him for anything. F6EDEE12-0...cd664.jpeg
Load More Replies...Perfect example of someone who has their Facebook friends locked down to an echo-chamber, how do you even find that many anti-vaxers.
This feels like a post to get be all riled up. A lot of people only surround themselves with like minded people. I disagree, but I don't know this small group of people. *Shrug*
I feel sad for the daughter. She's the only one with enough sense and initiative to go and do the right thing. It's sad that this poor girl had to be put at risk for so long because of her mother's ignorance. I wish people would just stop this nonsense.
Credit, respect, and hopes for continued courage to the daughter opting to get the vaccines.
Refusing to get a child vaccinated should legally be considered child abuse. End of story
Here at my place.. the government just made vaccination cards mandatory for school admissions. 👍🏽
Same. I don't understand how is possible that she went to school with others?!
Load More Replies...People that do not Vax their kids, should not be allowed to have their kids in public school. Vaccinations are a proven science and these losers are holding on to a study that was done by a man who was exposed as a fraud, lost his medical credentials and was sent to prison. To all the Anti-Vaxxers, I ask, Where's Polio if Vaccines don't work?
I had a choice; Risk my son getting polio or get a vaccine..... Is this a hard choice for people? Vaccinate !!!
If I ever have a child (I hope so, I can't yet due to a disease) I will vaccinate! I'd rather want my kid vaccinated than the poor kid getting polio or another horrible disease. And if my child gets a reaction. Well, that's sad. But better a reaction which will go away. And to the people claiming vaccinations cause autism. Well, I'd rather want my kid to have autism than polio. My SO works with people who have different forms of autism. They live on a farm where they are taken care of. My SO is one of the caregivers. I'd rather have this happen than my child getting polio or another horrible disease. Though I do not even believe vaccines cause autism. It could have been there from birth and develop further. And then they can get symptoms after the vaccinations. It doesn't mean that the vaccines CAUSE autism!!!
And to the people wishing this girl harm because she got herself vaccinated.. Oh I can't describe it. This makes me so angry. Wishing harm to a very clever 19 year old, just to "prove" their ‘right’. They need to be shamed for the rest of their lives! What kind of person wishes harm to a healthy person? That is just sick. I have 2 diseases myself, and even though I have excruciating (indescribable) pain 24/7, going on 12 years now, I would not wish this to my worst enemy. (I don’t have enemies, but if I had them, I still would not wish this to them). This is my opinion. I am glad I see my opinion shared a LOT over here. There are still smart people in the world who listen to very well educated doctors who studied extremely hard to help people with medical problems of any kind.
Load More Replies...I've met far right and far left people who are 'anti-vax', and one far left guy who is that way does feel strongly that the scientific consensus on global warming/climate change is true, and that evolution is biological reality. I agree w/ him on the latter two points and asked what is is epistemological basis (way of knowing) those latter points? His response: the scientific consensus. So then I said, so what about vaccines? Isn't the scientific consensus that they work well and don't cause autism? He got angry.
They do. He's completely irrational about he, he knows that and he's embarrassed by it, but he can't admit he's wrong, because...ego?
Load More Replies...I just can't with this level of stupidity. I have actually lost friends of mine because of the decision to vaccinate my children. My...almost grown...teenage daughters that are going off to college... and have been properly vaccinated. So....when the next stages of mumps and measles come around again...do we just put their kids in a bubble? Because more than likely....in their opinions....Vaccinations are evil!!! UGH
Dear God. "I hope she doesn't die!" In countries without easy access to vaccines, kids walk for DAYS to get the shots that they know can save their lives because they see what life is like both with and without vaccination, and they know life without vaccination is very dark indeed (particularly when you aren't fortunate enough to be benefitting from herd immunity). I just can't.
"she decided to listen she deemed more educated" Well, a doctor with all those years and years of education and experience can't be more educated than MOM, can he? All this hand-wringing about how her child has deceived her. What a narcissist! And all of her "groupies" clamoring around her. I was a bit sympathetic then one of those harpies wanted something terrible to happen to this person, so that she could learn a hard lesson. After that, I think those b**** can rot in hell.
This is absolutely insane. Her daughter is an adult, she can make her own decisions. What if any of these children of "anti-vaxers" want to be in the medical field or travel to underdeveloped countries? They have to have vaccines for that. If there only argument is the fear of getting Autism and/or being pumped full of chemicals, I have three points. 1. We eat chemicals, we bathe in chemicals, we breathe chemicals, we clean with chemicals- so unless you live like a bear in the woods, you are going to come into contact with chemicals. 2. Autism is typically diagnosed before the age of 2- there are no cases of "Adult-onset" Autism and 3. It has been researched and proven that there is no direct correlation between vaccines and an Autism diagnosis. And, lest we forget the rest out break of small pox and other nearly eradicated diseases because of anti-vaxer's.
My guess is, the daughter learned the truth from her high school biology class, and was just waiting until she was of legal age. Probably went to some on-campus counseling sessions during her freshman year of college to get some support too.
What a hysterical bunch of idiots! She is a young adult making an informed decision about her own health. Get over yourselves!
We three sisters had polio in 1953, before Jonas Salk found his vaccine. My sister was in an iron lung at age 10. Every morning the kids on the ward said their names, so the kids could all know who had died in the night. At 73 she still has nightmares about it. My bones were malformed and I was crippled and in agony, walking on the insides of my ankles until age 62, when there was a surgery to rebuild my feet and ankles. If you decide not to immunize your children, be sure you are ready to face them being crippled for life, or dying a horrible death, possibly taking other people’s children with them. There are lots of worse things than autism.
This really moves me. My mother is in a similar situation. She has broken her back twice, and she's in decline. Best wishes to all of you.
Load More Replies...so many delusional people these days.... and what is annoying the most, antivaxxers are so brainwashed, it's impossible to argue with them.
Part of me wants to say that anti-vax movement is a great way to thin the herd and eliminate people that are too stupid to live but then again....it's not the kids fault...it's the parent....so sadly the wrong person would be punished by their stupidity.
It is also terrifying that if someone not vaccinated gets one of those terrible diseases we are trying to prevent, it can easily spread to people who CAN'T get vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons, AND even to the people who ARE vaccinated if their immune systems are compromised for whatever reason. Measles epidemics are happening again because of the anti-vaccination whackjobs letting their carrier children around people who could potentially get sick. It's gotten bad enough that I am considering home schooling my VACCINATED children just to try to avoid the chance that little Timmy in their class isn't vaccinated and has somehow started spreading whooping cough or some other DEADLY disease. Hell, I'm genuinely afraid to leave my home on many days because of this.
Load More Replies...Some people are just dumb. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions more that they have ever harmed (if any!). Just do the maths - the risk is infinitesimal compared to the certainty of the damage these diseases can cause if you are unfortunate enough to succumb. I'd normally say something like, "This woman shouldn't be allowed to breed and have kids", but then we wouldn't have her far smarter daughter around.
The last comment: 'Go ready fully equipped with the knowledge..' - Priceless!
I am very disturbed that a mother would publicly post her daughter's health information. Her daughter is over the age of 18 and is responsible for what goes out and what doesn't. I think that the article is definitely worth reposting! except that, in this litigious society, I don't want to be responsible for the spreading of personal information without express permission. FROM THE DAUGHTER.
What a narcissist. More concerned that HER control was thwarted. Classic case of "How dare she defy me". I have some choice words for the harpies that are feeding her narcissism, especially the one who hopes that something terrible happens to this young brave woman ("because that'll show her we're right"): May Karma bite you on the a*s and give you all the horrible things that you wished upon someone trying to protect herself.
I wonder how many of these anti-vaxxers have been vaccinated when they were kids... And if they realize that they didn't die from any horrible disease etc... ? And the one comment wishing harm upon the 19y.o. is just awful. Sick people -_-
Probably most of them were vaccinated. Depends on the age, though. The chicken pox vaccine didn't exist until 1992.
Load More Replies...I don't know what's more appalling... The level of mental insanity of the mother, or the fact that she has so many friends coddling her and feeding into her insanity. This lady is truly disturbed.
Probably an anti-vaccination group she belongs to. Honestly, social media sites should use their right as a privately owned company to remove any kind of groups that promote these ideas. They are not required by any law to allow them to spread these lies and filth. I'm honestly shocked that spreading anti-vaccination propaganda isn't against their Terms of Service and End User License Agreement. Hell, it may be. And if it is, they need to start enforcing it.
Load More Replies...I understand the distrust of drug companies. And if I had a kid with severe allergies I might think twice about getting my child vaccinated. But ALL drugs can cause side effects in some people, but the danger of the disease usually outweighs the small risk of the vaccine.
Kids with severe allergies and other conditions that can't get vaccinated are the whole reason why it's so terribly important that children that are healthy need to get vaccinated. It's not only for their own sake, but also for the sake of others who can't get the shots themselves and rely on herd immunity. If you had a child with allergies, nobody would blame you for being afraid of drugs in general, I would be too.
Load More Replies...Terrifying. Who would wish ill on their own child to "teach them a lesson"? And then admit it on social media. What horrible, horrifying people.
So, I'm a firm believer that people can believe what they want and live they want. AS LONG AS they are not harming anyone else, putting anyone else at risk... Not vaccinating your kids and sending them out into the world is so incredibly dangerous. And stupid. And ignorant. I'm so proud of this girl for going and getting vaccinated despite her mom's crazy ranting. Good for her!!
The saddest part is the Lancet article all the anti-vaxers rely on was debunked 25 years ago. They would rather put their children at risk than believe the truth.
Smart kid deserves a better mother. There are many more young people who have found out their parents are idiots and have neglected their fundamental medical care due to deranged cult mentality. Thank goodness we can get these bright young people safely caught up on their shots.
WOW so many ignorant people on this earth ..Anti vaxers are sick sick people. Why would you endanger millions of other children by not getting your child vaccinated ? Completely selfish dangerous
"She just decided to listen to somebody who she deems more educated" you say it like she's wrong. What kind of person honestly thinks they know more than a doctor who went to school for many years? If anyone replied that this mother may be a doctor I'm just gonna ignore it because if she was I REAALLY doubt she'd be against vaccinations. Thank God the daughter is smarter than her incompetent mother
Anti-vaxxers are endangering children. Even if vaccinations DID cause autism, which it doesn't, what would you rather have: an autistic child or a dead child. The only thing even remotely wrong with vaccinations is that they hurt like hell, and even then a little distraction stops it all. Just vaccinate your kids already.
I'm more disappointed at how many people agreed with the mom? Like holy c**p, I wanted to scream the entire time I read this. People are ridiculous, but I'm glad she was smart enough to believe her doctor, a LICENSED PROFESSIONAL
When our kids were at the vaccine age, my wife and I were bombarded with the false information about vaccines causing autism among other things. Our oldest daughter had a slight reaction to her MMR so we stopped vaccines altogether and our youngest never got a single vaccine. Fast forward 20 years later and both my daughters chose to have all the vaccinations before attending college. I apologized to them since they both felt we put them in danger by not vaccinating.
My favorite part partea mea favorita "8 years I've been teaching her and she just decided to listen to somebody she deems more educated". Truth is hard.
If immunizations are so bad, why aren't all the previous generations going down like flies? Makes me sad about the future risk. Anybody up for another polio epidemic? I know me and mine are safe!
Sadly, because these people can become spreaders of those diseases, if you and yours have a compromised immune system due to an illness, or even just having to take steroids for some kind of medical treatment (they can weaken the immune system), you can become vulnerable to these easily prevented diseases. These self-righteous, circle-jerking, idiotic, science denying cretins aren't just putting themselves and their kids at risk. They are putting us all at risk.
Load More Replies...This is so deeply disturbing. I am committed to non-violence, and while I have always been an ardent feminist I am also a gentleman. But when confronted with this child abuse I want to slap this woman so hard she spins herself into the ground like a cheesy cartoon character.
Here's the difference...while you may have the URGE to, you DON'T. Although I could see sitting the dingus on a couch and slowly dumping all the evidence that PROVES that the lying liar that lied was wrong, and also his CONFESSION that the reason why he falsified the study was to sell his OWN formulation of vaccine.
Load More Replies...I wish they didn't block the names. That kind of crazy shouldn't be private.
She is a brave young woman with a huge amount of sense. It must have been really hard to go against her mothers' opinion like that. A big thank you from everyone else.
I'm concerned about the privacy violation. At 18, her doctor's office and insurance should have split off her account/health info from Mom's. Daughter would have to provide consent to give someone else access.
This woman and her friends are nuts. There is no proof vaccines are bad no matter want the internet says.
What's bothering me the most is that ignorant people such as these do not only hurt themselves but others too with their decisions! It really upsets me...
Maybe she wanted to make sure that she will not get sick with the mumps or another preventable illness when she's 30, and none of her friends catch anything because their parents were sane. Maybe she's sick of being afraid of catching stoppable illnesses that are deadly. Sometimes children are smarter than their parents!
Lol. I'm taking all AP and honors and still making A honor roll.
Load More Replies...Any mother who would refuse to have her children vaccinated should be arrested and her children taken away. What kind of ignorant, stupid person would do such a thing?
Oh my god!!! I hope she doesn't accidentally get healthy and become less of a risk to every single person she comes into contact with for the rest of her life!!! Are there really people who are this stupid in the world?
As rediculous as these people sound, I mean geeze, I have not given either of my children guardasill. And I won't. The FDA has a black label warning that specifically says NOT to give the new menengitis vaccine with guardasill. It has more of a chance to cause a terrible reaction. If you choose to give your children guardasill, make sure it's not at the same time as menengitis vaccines. Otherwise, I'm shocked at how stupid and rediculous these people sound!
I am a Nurse and studying to become a Nurse Practitioner. I am 100% in favor of the standard vaccinations that are currently on the market--the ones that have had years, and most DECADES of research and monitoring completed on them. They have been tried and proven highly successful, with very little overall risk but for a small few. I don't feel that way about The Giardisil vaccine. It needs further studies completed first, IMHO.
Load More Replies...Thank goodness the daughter was born with a brain. She should thank her grandparents.... they would have been apart of the generation that vaccinated her stupid mother which allowed her to lead a normal life and give birth to a healthy daughter.
My daughter contracted influenza (the big scary one) at 3 1/2 months MONTHS old and then developed a secondary respiratory infection 2 weeks later. She was placed on antibiotics and could have died. She gets every recommended vaccination and I will scream it from the roof tops. She has not gotten any other serious illness in her life. Vaccinate your kids for the good of public health.
I am so sorry to hear you and your family had to go through something like that. If any of my kids get that sick, I have no idea how I would handle it. All I know is that it would be 'not well' to a pretty severe degree.
Load More Replies...I am glad I leave in a country where vaccines are compulsory and enforced. Schools don't accept kids who did not get their vaccines. Rightfully so as kids catch illnesses so easily and they can spread quickly. A parent risks their child's health and life by choosing not to vaccine, unless they keep them locked up inside, away from human contact
It's quite possible that some people have bad reactions to vaccinations. I suppose it could be possible some illnesses that come on much later were somehow influenced by a vaccine, but there is no proof of that. Is (to use an example used by one of the people in the post) the rate of auto-immune diseases higher in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated? If so, show me the research. If not, then you don't even have the chance of a link between the two. Then there is the diseases the vaccines are actually for. Do these parents really believe the imagined risk of vaccines, to perhaps a few people, is more important that the 60,000 lives a year polio used to affect, and the thousands who died from it? They smugly go "while I'm OK" while they rely on the herd immunity (and common sense) of the rest of us to protect them. They may refuse vaccines, but they'd soon be in a panic if we were all so selfish.
What a pack of madwomen. Have they NEVER gone to a cemetery and seen the baby and children graves in the old section? Obviously not. LUDICROUS, CRIMINAL IDIOTS. Smart daughter.
This woman isn't abusive. She's just a concerned mother who is an idiot. To her its like telling her kid not to smoke her whole life and then she finds out her 19 yr old daughter is lighting up behind her back. She's not abusive, she's an idiot.
"But I meant well!" doesn't make abusive behavior un-abusive. That's the ugly thing about abuse. Many parents aren't aware of how cruel they are to their children because they think spankings/beratings/privacy violations/refusing to see a doctor when sick/pumping bleach up their kids' butt will do their kids good and help them to become better and healthier. Think of that one couple who treated their baby with essential oils and homeopathy, and the child died. They did not intend to torture and kill the child. But if these actions weren't considered abusive but just being an idiot, they wouldn't (rightfully) dragged to court. Being an idiot isn't punishable. Being abusive is and the motivation doesn't matter in the end if there's a suffering victim.
Load More Replies...Amazing how many ignorant people are still here on this planet. These anti vaxxers should go to third world countries and work in hospitals and see all the children getting sick and succumbing to illnesses we offer vaccines for.
Just leaving this here... https://www.boredpanda.com/immunologist-destroys-anti-vaxxer-explains-vaccines/
where is the logic, and how are so many people this stupid, there is no actuall evidince that vacines cause autsim, it's like saying"this brige is 99.97% safe. I think i'll swim" the reactions tha people have to vaccines are rare and treatable
I'd really like to beat the c**p out of all these so called parents. I swear the anti-vaxxer movement is just pure evil. They whine about imaginary toxins in vaccines, but give their kids bleach enemas - that's right - BLEACH ENEMAS! They call it Miracle Mineral Solution but it's really BLEACH. Autism has always been around. It's nothing new. It's just instead of blaming it on fairies like we used to (look up the folklore on The Changeling Child) we now know there's a medical reason - and now we know the reason. We're all born with a slew of neurosynaptic cells in our brain and we have a gene that tells us to "prune" them during our development in the womb. Well, people with Autism don't have that gene and therefore they don't do that pruning. So you're BORN with Autism. It's NOT caused by vaccines - which are safe - they're NOT caused by GMOs - which are also safe - they're NOT caused by chemtrails - which DO NOT EXIST - it's just caused by biology.
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10215415469637281&id=1153449901
THE GIRL DID THE RIGHT THING! IT'S THE MOTHER AND HER FRIEND(S) THAT SEEM TO BE WAAAAY OUT IN LEFT FIELD!
It honestly drives me crazy knowing that people in my family are exactly like this! Anti-abortion, anti-vax, etc. I was so lucky I ended up with my mom and not one of my uncles!
Ladies and gentlemen...we are on the verge of a Stupidity Singularity...
Good lord, this b***h and all her friends are r******d beyond belief. They should all just get together and have a Tide-Pod Party.
I put anti-vaxxers in the same category as climate deniers, flat earthers, and evolution deniers. They’re a bunch of simple minded idiots.
Wow! I am shocked by the ignorance and stupidity that people continue to believe that vaccines are the cause of....well... every disease or disorder. I am so tied of these people and their ignorance. One way that you can "adjust" their attitudes is make them financially responsible for any and all medical bills that a family incurs when the non-vaccinated kid infects another person. I say person instead of child because along with infants being too young to be vaccinated, the elderly, cancer patients, and others who's immune system is weak or compromised for whatever reason can be infected by the kid that has been infected and may be spreading measles, for example. Who should pay those bills? I think the parents of the non-vaccinated kid should pay. Hit them in the wallet. Personally I feel the amount of chemicals that are in our food supply, water and air are the reason for an increase of autism and such.
The clown who wrote this must live on an island. Anti-vaxxers are getting anything of the sort, but rather the movement is growing. Stay a SHEEP without looking into ir, Rokas.
I'm confused, did the daughter allow her doctor to give her a vaccination shot or did she allow her doctor to inject her with the ebola virus?
"Blablabla breach of trust blabla emotions yadayada prayers". Yeah, it's a cult. And a pretty severe one, at that.
As a former nurse, the diseases that kill are way worse than getting vaccinated. There is so much out there we don’t know, I feel vaccinating kids prevents them for the bad diseases we do know about and can stop! What if there were no polio vaccine? So many would have died, and did die, or spent the rest of their lives in an iron lung or unable to walk! Who would wish that on anyone? Small pox, OMG, why would you ever, in your life, prevent your child from having that vaccine?! How awful if your child got it, loved and was covered in pox scars for the rest of their life, because you, didn’t want to vaccinate your child?
Vaccines in theory are great-THE FDA'S INSIDIOUS NATURE OFALLOWING OTHER PATHOGENS TO SECRETLY ENTER THE BODY IS WHAT IS WRONG vaccines = great in utopian theory vaccines in our culture = government secretly puts more in the "vaccine" than that was is told to patient There are more molecules present in an HPV vaccine, than just the vaccine itself. I feel bad for the mom, she tried letting her know we live in a corrupt society; and that you can't trust others (including the Feds). Peace and Love to Everyone
How traumatic for the poor mom! Daughter discarded all Mom's misinformation and went and got vaccinated! Maybe DD should have stuck with Cocaine or Heroin, Mom wouldn't have been so upset. I mean, REALLY? This long winded, teary whinge about her daughter getting VACCINATED? I sincerely hope that's the worst DD ever does, otherwise this woman's going to end up in a trauma-induced catatonia....
What a bunch of delusional idiots. At least the daughter has more sense than those muppets. I feel sorry for all their kids that they stop from getting vaccinated.
The mother in question is the perfect example of a ‘yanktard’ This is not a public matter for her to espouse sympathy for her own private cause. However perhaps she should be perceived as a danger to public health and the relevant authorities notified.
Yeah, lets kill her because SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE! wright? Stupid people.... soon it will be illegal to think for yourself, just wait and see.... if this is what you are asking, this is what you and your children, and your grandkids will have soon: zero freedoms!
Load More Replies...With everything that had been going on lately, I really want to give these kinds of ”kids” a thumbs up! Good job!
I need to go to bed and lay down and rest I feel emotionally distraught after having to read that c**p. I hope all of you will gather round and support me while I get over the trauma of reading it. I means this woman and her friends are obviously idiots, but they supported her. Will you please support me till I get over this ordeal. LOL
Well isn’t that just tough f*****g s**t? Good on this young woman for taking responsibility for her health. She is going places.
Jesus christ. I knew there were people like this but my god are they really that f*cking ignorant?
Yes, and usually worse. I'm sure that is only the tip of the iceberg made of batshit.
Load More Replies...I can almost bet that mother is up to date on all her shots. She can thank her parents for looking out for her...
So how did this stupid mother get to see her daughter's private medical records?… Do American doctors give them out to the nosey parents of adults? … Don't start me on the idiots who're offering prayers and positive vibes… They aren't gonna cure anything.
I would think she'd be more concerned about how the mother found out! Absolutely none of mom's business, and I would have more than a few questions about dear old mom going through my mail.
A major reason why we do get as old as we do, on average, is vaccinations.
nothing to do with healthcare, hygiene or nutrition. noooooo, no, no, no, no...
Load More Replies...OK I know very little about the anti-vaccine movement, but why do people think that they're being lied to about the link with autism? After reading this I looked aound the web and although there was a fear of this back in the 90's it's no longer considered a threat and what motive do people think there is to spread autism in kids?
so why do some vaccines list autism as a possible outcome? or, go look at the first reported cases of autism and when the chemical thiomersal was introduced into vaccines, agricultural and wood treatment
Load More Replies...This is THE MOST RIDICULOUS thing I have read all day. Thank goodness for medical science, with the Polio vaccine, this HORRIBLE disease has been under control in Africa for decades. Anti vaxxers are all big talk, until their kid, gets something HORRIFIC like Polio and realize that they could have prevented it. SMH
She should have been arrested for child endangerment after missing the first vaccination. No one should have to wait for their own adulthood to be able to protect themselves from avoidable illnesses! If someone chooses to be ignorant for themselves, that's their business but when your made-up beliefs endanger others someone has to step in to protect those who can not protect themselves.
The mom had to make it all about herself. Thank God the doctor and the girl were smart enough to know she's at risk by not vaccinating.
At least the mothers conscience is clear. You can only parent for so long before kids make their own minds.
I'm just a little confused here. Which of the two of those do you think is in the right?
Load More Replies...I wish stupid hurt the parents, but kids pay when they contract horrible diseases. Have some whooping cough, mom, you twit
The mother needs to stop with trying to make the child feel guilty, as if she did something wrong. And the people that wised her ill will, you know who you are, how terrible! I hope this child grows to be happy and confident.
It's this type of belief that makes me fear even more for the future of our species.
I don't even know what to say about this. How are people in this day and age so stupid? I mean, it's one thing to put yourself in harms way by not getting vaccinated, but making your kids suffer too? Ridiculous...
It's incredible how delusional educated adults can be. Good for the daughter!
Is that seriously a thing? This all just looks like an elaborate joke...surely people can't be THAT dumb, right? Even if vaccines aren't 100% harmless in 100% of cases, it'd take a negative amount of braincells to assume being suscepted to the actual illnesses is better o_O
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Load More Replies...It seems really ridiculous that there are those who believe that the vaccine is the enemy. thinking back to the great epidemics that have devastated Europe and America over the centuries, I wonder how happy the sick would have been to know that a simple vaccine could have saved their lives, whereas today these diseases are under control ( but not disappeared, because from some parter a small outbreak of any germ could still exisitere) there are those who prefer to risk their own life and their own figl, ie not vaccinated, so that if there should be a resurgence of infection, they would be the first to succumb . What fools are those who think that what has not been seen for so long has definitely disappeared. here in Italy no typhoid fever was seen for decades, and yet today we have admitted a case of typhoid fever. tuberculosis belonged to the past, yet at infectious diseases we have at least 4 hospitalizations. I myself have been the victim of scarlet fever at the age of 50, because w
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If the daughter did not tell her, how did mother find out?!?! HIPAA prevents medical professionals from divulging her info, even if she is on mom's insurance. She is an adult, she has to fill out paperwork to ok the release of info. I'd consult an attorney. (If mom opened her mail, she's in violation of FEDERAL LAW, if the Dr told her, the Dr is)
Look I´m sorry your daughter went beyond your beliefs, but are they her´s. I am going to side with the daughter because anti-vax just seems stupid. She now has a better chance of living longer. If you don´t like it fine, but do not go online looking for sympathy. Stuff like this stay´s of the internet. You don´t go advertising it for sympathy and so your daughter gets hate comments. You may not like it but it was her choice.
And this is why measals is killing people in Australia in 2018. Sooner or later something like Small Pox will come back because idiots refuse to vaccinate! (Okay, so maybe Small Pox is an over exgaduration but you get my point.)
The daughter had to sneak to the doctor to get shots. The daughter was also concerned about how the mom found out... They hope she gets sick from them and that she should be removed from the health insurance. All of this is so disturbing on so many levels.
If someone has a reaction to a vaccine, then that simply means they're allergic to it, like anyone can be allergic to anything. But doctor probably have alternatives for those people, right? (This is a legitimate question)
My mind is blown. So she's going to be happy if her daughter dies of one of the illness she got a vaccine for? Will she be smiling around the hospital bed saying 'thank goodness you're dying from a disease that has a vaccine you could have got, I'd have hated you to get a vaccine'. It's disturbing. And the other adult's reactions are frightening. If you're worried about autism (even after reading the science.....) would you rather have a child with autism (who are not even sick, just different people in themselves) or a dead child? Hmmmm.............
How ignorant can people get? Bravo to the daughter who made an adult decision on her own behalf, and has had her vaccines. She is smarter than her mother and probably better informed.
These are the people who cause epidemics and should be fined for doing so...
These people who refuse to vaccinate their kids are gonna end up killing them just because they think they're smarter than a doctor (which they're not) There's also the fact that they're putting other children in danger by having them exposed to an unvaccinated child. A doctor knows best and if you want your child to die or suffer or WHATEVER their goal is then go ahead. You're willing to put your childs life at risk just to be petty but whatever.
Poor, stupid mother! She should be thrilled that her daughter is independent, smart, and forward thinking! The children of other antivaxxers should follow her lead!
There was a discussion recently: What if the kid who was not vaccinated got sick and spread a disease to other kids who were vaccinated. Would the un-vaccinated kid and its parents be liable for damages in spreading the disease?
Mom is so ...... my son had his as soon as he was old enough for each one . I thank the lord every day he is doing great .
Why was this mother reading her adult daughter's after care summary? This is a very sick woman and her friends are just perpetuating her illness. I applaud her daughter for making her own decisions in life as it is just that, her life!!
Are you kidding this mother must be out to lunch. I have 8 kids and 31 grandkids. They all have had their vaccines and are quite healthy I also also have 2 nephews with autism and neither one have it because of vaccines. My done is also a P A and he told me vaccines has nothing to do with autism So is this mother a doctor or just some body that thinks she knows it all Lady get more info
When she gets cancer from the vaccine she will wish she had listened to her momma.
I've had not one vaccine in 20 years and not one days missing school or work from being sick.
All these comments are giving me hope for humanity. Thank you. My God these Anti-Vaxxers are so insanely stupid and they are hurting so many people.
Oh for f**k sake. Get a grip mum. It's not like she's killed someone. She's an adult, can do whatever she wants with her own body and is obviously sensible enough to not listen to any of the c**p that her mother and her cronies are spouting. Smart girl.
So makes me wonder if the mother is also a member of the flat earth society
The way they are talking make it sounds like she went and did something horrible! If you didn't know they were talking about vaccines, you'd think she should be put in jail. The one wishing for the poor girl to have a reaction is a psycho!! Vaccines have eliminated some of the most horrific diseases known to man. These people need a little education about polio, measles and chicken pox long term effects. I hope this young lady stays strong.
The EOB rats out another one. Most teens and young adults have no idea that the insurance company sends the policy owner (their parents) an EOB (Explanation of Benefits) after every time they use medical services. An EOB generally includes the name of the doctor, the date, and any tests or medicines given. Like vaccines. Or birth control. To ensure future medical privacy, the daughter (or any teen on their parent's insurance, or any abused person on their abuser's policy) needs to call the insurance company directly and ask what privacy options they have. Most of the time, you can request the EOB form be sent directly to you, under your name, rather than the policy holder. You might also be able to request they send the EOB to you via email, to avoid receiving paper mail if you're at the same address. If they can't do this, the insurance company might offer "filtered" or "masked" EOBs which will leave off details of the treatment, or conceal the medical billing codes.
The real crime here is the unnecessary attack on grammar and spelling. Ashameful!!1!!!!111!!1!
Maybe the 19 year old woman wanted to go to college (most require up-to-date vaccinations), not get easily prevented diseases that could cause permanent heart damage and infertility, and not be a potential carrier for those same diseases that could infect all those non-vaccinated kids out there.
I thank God this stupid mindset did not rule in the 1900's or we would still have Polio, Smallpox etc. etc.! what total idiots
did you know epidemic numbers were going down through better healthcare, hygiene and the likes LONG before the vaccinations started?
Load More Replies...An echo chamber of ignorance and stupidity. I'm surprised and relieved that the daughter wasn't brainwashed.
I think the mom is very selfish. There are no guarantees about vaccines, but does she have the right to stop her daughter from infecting innocent persons? I also think she needs to read more on the subject and sit with a mother whose child is dying from something that could have been prevented from the use of vaccines.
I was born before they had these immunizations available and thank goodness my boys didn't have to go through what I did as a child with the measles, mumps and chickenpox. BTW, my dad didn't have the mumps as a child and guess who got the mumps about a week or so after my brother and I finished up with ours, our dad. Mumps in an adult male, or one out of puberty, can be a serious matter. It put my dad in the hospital at the time for two weeks.
For the mama: when you grow up with friends struck by polio? You should have vaccinated your girl. You are a very lucky mama that your daughter never caught one of those nasty viruses that could have disabled her for life. At the same time: as a mother you should be critical of anything that you "feed" your kid, whether that is food or medication. I applaud you for being critical, but you should have been more critical of the anti-vaccination program.
"She [the daughter] was more concerned about how I found out." I'm concerned too. Was the after-visit summary mailed to their home? If the mother opened her daughter's mail, that's an offense. If she read her daughter's protected health information, that's another offense (HIPPA).
These screen shots were taken from a CLOSED/private support group page :-( Not cool. By the way, it has almost 130,000 members.
These anti-vaxxers are a menace. Gullible, stupid, afraid of the boogeyman. Suspicious of people who spend decades getting educated to be able to help others. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be in terror of "them" all of the time.
That woman is a FOOL. When I was a child I had ALL the available vaccines and never had any adverse reactions.
That woman is a FOOL. I had all the available vaccines when I was a child and never had a SINGLE adverse reaction.
What sort of parent is not only okay with another person wishing harm on her child, but agrees with that person?! Oh, yeah, the kind who is abusive. Which anti-vaxxers are. We need to start charging them with manslaughter when their sick kids kill babies (which has already happened). Maybe that will wake them up. But even if not, it will get them the f**k off the street.
what a crazy mom! And her friends are absolutely horrid, one hoping she has a horrible reaction to "teach her a lesson".
Too bad Bored Panda seems to think that the Vaccine War is a war of the Righteous against the loonies. Well - in truth there is a lot of good evidence based on scientific facts and studies on both sides. only - guess where the money goes? I for my part am very glad to live in Switzerland where we can make our own decisions. recently a study came out confirming that unvaccinated children are overall healthier...
Domenica, I agree. From now one I will stop visiting bored panda. I have an unvaccinated son of 18 months and trust me he is healthier that any other kid. He had no flu, no alergies, he is full of energy meanwhile a lots of kids of his age (vaccinated) have a lots of allergies, skin irritations, etc. Manny DOCTORS demonstrated that the vaccines are not safe! I made a vaccine myself 3 years ago, and since then I constantly have some allergies and irritations on my skin, it is terrible, I am scratching like a monkey all the time.
Load More Replies...I think, I'm general people. Red to be careful of what they read (research wise) on the internet. Internet addresses that end in ".com" are typically individuals or even companies, but the "information" they share is not peer reviewed (or verified). Web addresses that end in ".org" are--look to these, ESPECIALLY when seeking medical advice or information.
I am having a flashback to age 18 when I was away at school and came home for a holiday and had a check up. The nurse called my mother to warn her I might have an STD. It was a yeast infection!!!!! I had just started a BC pill. Mother had a hissy fit and I was 18!! There are privacy laws. I feel for this young woman.
Ignorance at its best. Thank God this girl is smarter than her mother (and friends.) Probably did her own research. My favorite are the friends that told Mom to go with her to the doctors....Ummm friends, do you really think mommy gets to go into the exam room with her 19 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER? SMH
Ignorance at it's best. Kudos to this young woman - keeping herself (and others) safe.
Good for her. But I hope she didn´t recieved all 6 vaccines in one session. That would be stupid.
I wish there was a vaccin against the virulent stupidity that is spreading through the "developed" world (most prominently the US and the Muslim world). I hope education is the vaccine. Then again, unfortunately home schooling is allowed in the US, so (on average) ignorant idiots are raising a new generation of ignorant idiots. And in Islamic countries laws dictate that schools need to spread nonsense. There is a ray of hope in this story in that respect: the daughter allowed herself to be informed by a professional instead of believing her mother.
This HAD to be on some sort of anti van Facebook page group. Because I can not see at all this being on a private persons Facebook and that many people agreeing with her. Not sure what this persons way of thinking makes any sense. And it infuriates me that it is fine getting other people sick with serious diseases because they're dumb enough to not get vaccines. Good job, daughter. Let your mom cry on Facebook.
Original post on reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/80jz2z/mother_isnt_happy_with_her_19yearold_daughter_who/
Oh my f***ing god. I mean, i laughed out loud at this lady's stupid faulty logic, but it is really saddening that there are people like that out there. I am glad her daughter is smarter and more logical than her and is escaping her brain washing attempts.
Anyone else disturbed that this mother wants to follow her grown daughter around (aka stalking) to keep her from getting the rest of her vaccinations?
I get that people want someone to blame for their child’s autism, I really do. And these people are absolutely CONVINCED they’re sentencing their child to this condition by vaccinating and don’t want to roll the dice. Unfortunately, the more the anti-vaccine movement grows, the less protection these children will have from herd immunity. I am terrified for the future and what the outcome will be. These people are not going to wake up until they’re forced to, and I fear it’s going to take a lot of deaths of innocent children for this to happen.
Thankfully the 19 year old, in spite of her mom's ignorance, managed to grow up to be a logical, reasonable person. If this is what the mom chooses to be heartbroken over, she is a pathetic excuse of a parent.
Wow with all the vaccines given since their inception, this should be a world filled with dead or horribly sick people. I never knew there were sooo many people dying. there must be trillions by now...(I wonder where they are all buried??) Guess you just can't fix stupid
My husband had hpv throat cancer. He almost died, it was horrible. He is two years out and has to get a pet scan once a year. I asked my son to get vaccinated. I pray he will. Why would you risk your childs health like that?
Why do we have this ridiculous war on science. It seems large numbers of people believe 1) That the AIDS virus was manufactured 2) Engineers created a car that runs on water 3) The medical community is hiding a cure for cancer 4) We are suppressing perpetual motion machines 5) Fluoride in water is making us complacent 6) Man never landed on the moon 7) Genetically Modified Food is dangerous 8) vaccines are dangerous 9) Man made climate change is a liberal conspiracy 10) The earth is on 6000 years old and evolution is a secularist myth. When will it end?
And why isn't anyone bothering to rally against things like cocaine abuse in men and women? There's a definite correlation between parental abuse of this drug and things like ADHD in offspring.
So many stupid people ,sad when the child has to be the adult !!!! I have 4 children and yes 1 has autism wasn't caused by vaccines as he was he showed symptoms from birth . Am upset ,outraged NO I'm happy my child is still alive and died due to the stupidity of other , my God woman I feel so sorry for you and praise your daughter highly for showing the backbone and intelligence it takes to defy your stupidity and keeping herself safe !!!!!
I can't believe this mom is that careless and stupid to think her daughter is killing herself with much needed vaccines. If anybody can shut this mother up is her own damn daughter!! And In laughing at the fact that her mother seemed like she s**t herself when she found out the way she did. But good for her for doing what she is doing. She's a big girl. She don't need mommy telling her what to do!! Or what she can't get. And if I was this mother's daughter best believe I would cuss her a*s out and put her in her place! You're only going to get sicker if you you don't get vaccinated. Since you don't. I don't recommend you EVER stepping foot outside or you'll get us vaccinated people sick! Enough said
In the past few years there have been at least 3 major universities that have published basically that the flu vaccines are not good for you and maybe even bad. They office little to no protection and some may even damage our immune systems. If I remember correctly the American ones were YALE and John Hopkins. Also how many of us who were born in the 50's to early 60's now have simian virus in us due to contaminated vaccines and now have/had cancer????
So. My story. In my childhood and teens I had a phobia of needles and doctors in general (still have it in my forties, learn to control it). They couldn't vaccinate me, because 4 people weren't enough to restrain me, so they could stick a needle in me. When I was 14 however, the high school I really wanted to go to wouldn't let me enroll unless I had the basic vaccines. So I made an appointment by myself, got the vaccines, and finished the school. Since then I am still the only person who can "restrain" me in medical procedures, but I am still grateful to the strict school rules. And I'm happy to live in a country, where basic vaccines are mandatory. The thing that pops in my mind reading about the whole anti-vax movement is something like: F**************ck! Why are there still people this stupid in the 21st century?
Ummmmmm, she 19. Hello, legally she's an adult. Oh, one question. Did she die?
Wonder if this 19 year old ADULT daughter know her mom violated her privacy by reading the doctor's note? There's a law about that, just a little thing called HIPAA...
My mother is 92. When she was a school kid in the 1930s, she had class mates die of whooping cough, diptheria, polio, and scarlet fever. Vaccines against those things hadn't been invented. When I was a school kid in the 1960s, not a single one of my class mates died of any infectious disease. My kids went to school in the 1990s/2000s and not one of their classmates died of any infectious disease. Would anyone care to hazard a guess as to what made the difference?
So I got all the vaccines when I was younger so my sister did and all my generation and the one after me and so on. I am ok so my sister is and all my friends. In our country we are complaining that we don’t receive enough vaccines for all kids. Idk what happened with all these people...
It's so devastating to see anti-vax mothers like this... There's so much conflicting information about what's best for your children, and so much pressure on mothers to do the right thing/be super-mom. There is overwhelming scientific evidence that shows that there is no link between vaccines and autism (which sparked the whole debate). But the fear has spread. It spreads through parents and mommy fb groups like wildfire and it's hard to stop because the whole debate targets the justified fears of parents. Even many parents who "accept" giving their kids vaccines, ask to "space-out" the vaccine schedule just to be safe (even though, medically, there's no reason to). Scared/confused parents will look things up online and find things that scare them. Then they "research" it and find more and more like-minded people with the same fears... These people clearly care for the well-being of their children as #1 priority...yet they're unknowingly putting their children at risk. So sad :/
You have got to be kidding me! Don't you know that schools, are not letting children go to class, unless they are vaccinated? They don't want the child that isn't vaccinated to infect other children! That is the smartest thing ever! Seriously lady, take you head out of the sand!
Crackpots. Unfortunately, this 'movement' is making it easier for old diseases we had almost eradicated to gain a new foothold. It really disappoints me that people are so willing to be misled.
Two years ago, one of my best friends died of HPV throat cancer. There is no vaccine reaction that is worse than what he went through or the fact he died at age 56. And don't get me started on tetanus. I ride horses, and tetanus is a major concern. Get those boosters!
So her mom went to medical school? Everyone is different, some people have a reaction and some don't. No one can predict it, but I'd rather have a vaccine than the disease
My god... you'd think she'd been caught on tape boinking the pope. What is wrong with people? Would it be better if she'd died of a preventable disease? WTF?
Surely this whole conversation is a made up joke. People out there really think this way? That's insane! I mean, to each their own, but I'm so glad the daughter was able to escape this prison her mother fully intended her to choose to remain in. And the people replying and sympathyzing?! Wow. Just wow. I'd feel the same if they were talking about aliens taking over the bodies of people around them.
Probably an anti-vaccination group she belongs to. Honestly, social media sites should use their right as a privately owned company to remove any kind of groups that promote these ideas. They are not required by any law to allow them to spread these lies and filth. I'm honestly shocked that spreading anti-vaccination propaganda isn't against their Terms of Service and End User License Agreement. Hell, it may be. And if it is, they need to start enforcing it.
Load More Replies...Read dozens of books about this subject, talk with parents that have kids with severe reactions 2 hours after vaccines, have yourself a strong reaction after your vaccine.... things like these make us to unvaccinate.
Load More Replies...Good for the daughter. The mother should be arrested for attempted murder since vaccines save lives and if you don't vaccinate your children you're saying you want them to die. Susan Smith was more humane in the way she murdered her children than anti-vaxxers are in the way they're trying to murder their's.
Oh no your offspring is living her own adult life, how awful that she lives by her own beliefs now. I think the mother needs to grow up more then the daughter.
Not one person said that vaccines are good and it’s actually WAY more dangerous to not have them?
Nop, so so sad. I think we should protect our kids and leave them to eat, inject and drink all the toxic things....
Load More Replies...Yeah, but we are not all the same! If I am allergic at something it does not means that you are too. If I fall and break my neck does not mean that you will break your neck too if you fall....
Load More Replies...Yes. How did you find out? I'm glad she's smart enough to be proactive about her health.
These people need to be deliberately exposed to the Polio virus. Let them argue against vaccination from wheelchairs (or worse). (Yes, that's horrible, but no worse than deliberately exposing children to crippling and fatal diseases).
Opposition to vaccines is based on fear and ignorance, they clearly don't know how vaccines work and think they're full of things like lead and mercury.
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We depend on 'herd immunity', so we don't have another polio epidemic or worse. That's why you get vaccinated. I worked near Boulder, CO and talk about antivaxxers- we have pertussis outbreaks regularly, because of these nut jobs. So we have newborns and elderly at risk. These diseases we get vaccinated for are a distant memory for this generation, but ask any baby boomer who had measles, or mumps, or worse- polio. These diseases kill, and can land an adult in ICU. You can't fix stupid. But the daughter should get her mom off her HIPPA- I would like to know how the mother found out.
I've become more and more aware lately that there are none so blind as those that will not see. The FB commentor in the article above, who said "I could totally see my daughter doing that and rubbing it in again and again when she didn't die" is the perfect example of wilfull blindness. It isn't about the facts (which I have a sneaking suspicion she knows are true) it's about control......and thinking that you, as a parent know what is "best" for your child more than someone with a degree. I hope more kids go out and do this when they hit 18.
I admit, when the anti-vaxxers started out - it made me a little afraid. I'm 70 in a few days - have been sick VERY VERY little during my life - My sons got everything available - I HAD the Measles, and Mumps, and Chicken Pox. The boys got the chicken pox, but none of the others, thank God. When I joined the Army, I got 10 shots in one arm (with that nifty little gun thing) and one in the other - one two separate occasions - guess what? I didn't die!!!!!!! Woo Hoo! I would do it again. After all these years, they're probably due again anyway LOL Got a Tetanus again a couple of years ago after I stepped on a nail. THIS woman, in THIS article, is one un-educated person. I have a friend like that on FB - Oh and SHE"S allllll about everything in the universe being a Govt Conspiracy, too.
The daughter is smarter than her Mom and Mom's friends. And did I read it correctly? Her Mom said she is going to talk her out of ever vaccinating her daughters children!!!
After every (piece of b******t) thing you tried to teach her she used her brain anyway and made an evidence-based decision about HER OWN BODY based on EXPERT ADVICE. OMG you had better just curl up in a ball and weep.
I have known too many whose lives were destroyed or seriously disrupted by diseases that these vaccines prevent. Friends who survived polio, only one made it without withered limbs. So many friends and family who have dealt with shingles because of the chicken pox, and more. Good for the daughter for taking charge of her own health. These rabid anti-vaxers are only a half step away from thosd cretins who let their children die of easily treated issues such as a kidney or other infection because they will only allow prayers as treatment and refuse to take them to a doctor.
i didn't realise it was so bad here. this is just painful to read. god help anyone who breaks the mold
Load More Replies...Antivaxxers are a parasite, they survive on the herd immunity built on mass vaccination. Maybe small pox or something will come thru and they will become a self solving problem. They are a cancer upon humanity.. Disgusting.
You don't say.... I imagine that you have this opinion because you read A LOT about this subject, I mean I read dozens of books and my opinion is according to that... so, did you read even one book about vaccines?
Load More Replies...Tfw your parents won't listen to you about something you know more about, but still, and then they ask their friends and they agree with them. Wtf
This "mother" is not only highly ignorant and ineducated, she is also deeply selfish. All parents should be OBLIGED to give vaccines to their children. IT is not all about YOUR CHILD, for f**k sake!!. There are other children who cannot get vax due to other conditions. Vaccination preserves the group and it is A DUTY OF EVERY SINGLE ONE to provide their offspring with vaccines. If you don't wanna live in a society, go to a desert island, as the society implies a Group and not a bunch of single people all caring for themselves only. GO VAX!!
As a doctor I can understand how lay people might consider taking vaccine is bad for health. Coz they have no understanding of the science behind it. But the way these r behaving is incredulous. They r acting like she assaulted or raped somebody. This is crazy.
So sorry mom that your parents did you the favor of vaccination (most likely) and you tired out okay and that your daughter has common sense. Also she's 19...she is legally allowed to go without you and make her own decisions. It's very concerning that you would try to stop her...
I don't know why the mom has to freak out about the fact that her daughter decided to make her own life decisions, and that she can make her own choices. In the end, the child may not listen to the parents, and in this case for very good reasons
The replies seem very emotional & vicious. They are quite judgemental & assume they are so much better informed than the concerned mother & her friends. There are always fervent views & perhaps we should try to respect other people's views & choices.
Why are you protecting the identies of these people? They posted all this stuff publicly. If they're going to be propagating false and dangerous (not to mention stupid) information, they should be outed for it.
Seriously. Unique individuals in this world. So she was vaccinated. Parents we raise our children to the best of our ability. The daughter has made her decision let her be.
This is why we need to have education...she f*****g thinks she knows more then a DOCTOR?
I was ready to jump through the screen and start going momma bear on some stupid people...
Mom is one giant drama filled idiot! Her daughter is an adult and can take care of herself, which she is doing!!!
FFS these people are horrible! Wishing the girl gets sick?! She is 19,she has a job,shes a bloody adult! Hopefully,she makes enough money to move out and leave the pathetic mother and her nut bag friends behind...And whats with all the "prayers"?!
I cant believe people are truly this r******d. They shouldnt be allowed to reproduce. Oh well, at least the daughter had someone influence her enough to get rid of the moronic views of her mother.
Genuinely bad people. If the reason you don't want your kids to have the vaccine is because you're afraid they'll have a bad reaction, why in God's name would they want a child who gets the vaccine to have a bad reaction? They need therapy.
Um...what's her facebook?(is that fb? Not sure) I really want to scream at her! Doctors are there to help you not try and do whatever you think you they did to your child xD this is so stupid
I see that you are very bored, find yourself a real job instead of texting to strange people.
Load More Replies...I am trying to respect their decisions but seriously! I mean, why react so harshly. Vaccines work you idiots! It is a lot more dangerous to not get them! I fully 100% support that 19 year old girl.
If vaccines are "perfectly safe" WHY did the Federal Government make it illegal to sue the manufacturers? Who would be suing them if nothing ever goes wrong?
Anti vaxxers are human scum. Their decision to let their children contract things like measles and whooping cough and the full effects of flu after flu when they could at least reduce the *likelihood and severity* of those diseases is torturous, sick, nightmarish abuse. Every last one of them deserve to have their kids taken away, at minimum. Moreso, anti vaxxers deserve to be beaten and kicked off the planet. They're evil, evil, subhuman trash.
Sorry the kid - and so many pro-vaxassination people are so damn stupid. Vaccines are NOT as safe and nowhere NEAR as effective as you are told - by companies that make billions off of them. CDC alone makes $6,000,000,000 per year on JUST their flu shots - and they hold 52 patents in related products - and are a Dunn & Bradstreet private corporation who is owned by the US Govt with 60% of it's shares. Duh - they get $$$ Until you idiots can explain the reason agammaimmunoblobuminaemia proves vaccine theory flawed - just shut the hell up with your idiotic parroting of the "safe and effective" b******t mantra. Until you can explain the OAS - Original Antigenic Sin and understand how this PROVES that more flu shots make your immune system less effective in fighting flu - shut the hell up. Until you can tell me about the S Korean chicken pox history from 2005-2015 and explain away how AGAIN there is zero herd immunity from vaccines - shut up. When you learn that "herd immunity" was based
based upon studies of MDs in the 1930s & 40s and that it ONLY had any effect with NON - VACCINE natural disease events - you won't understand that ZERO vaccines EVER can, have, or will provide immunity. Herd immunity from vaccines is a total myth. You people out here just repeating what you've heard from some money-making "expert" are sick ones. You know so damn little about the subject but are willing to accuse the mother of all sorts of even criminal offenses - Munchausen by Proxy my a*s. You fools don't even know that the flu shot causes more deaths and more damages by number than any other shot - as it makes your immune system less effective. You don't know that HPV vaccines have the highest per capita death/damage rate. You don't know that vaccines have been PROVEN to cause autism - 83 X the NVICP (oh - you jokers don't even know what the hell that is, do you, or VAERS?) had to pay out for PROVEN VACCINE DAMAGES CAUSING NEUROLOGICAL DAMAGE INCLUDING AUTISM!!!! Official, in the b
Load More Replies...Actually there are two sets of evidence. The other one shows that the magnesium in the vaccines can brake your cells, so you will develop lifelong cronicle diseases - perhaps even autism. I don't know. The med-companyes are strong - and pursuasing... Which sience is right????
Never vaccinated. Never will, The Pharm industry have most of you by the balls i see. Meh to the sheeple
I would be absolutely devastated too. SIX vaccines including one of the most dangerous (HPV)? Luckily our boys have seen first hand the damage vaccines can do in their little brother and are as wary as I am. I'm sure this mum's reaction is funny to some, but when you've seen the consequences first hand, vaccine damage is no laughing matter. It's heartbreaking, and it never goes away. I dearly hope this girl is ok.
This is a trash article. It's mean-spirited, has garnered a lot of hate, including talk of hoping anti-vaxxers die. It pushes a narrative and is just plain cruel. Isn't there anything better to report on than some random lady we don't even know is real?
For all of the people flipping out, not capable of understanding parents fear over these vaccines...#1 Have you done YOUR research as to what is IN ALL of the vaccines children get?? #2 I know that it is time consuming, and that you may gain some knowledge, but, you had better have a look at the documentary called VAXXED. It is not saying whether vaccinations are good or bad. But, they DO now have ABSOLUTE evidence that the CDC fudged their numbers PURPOSELY.
And do you know WHY all that stuff is in the vaccines?
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Shame on you bored panda for this article. Have any of you done the massive in depth research it takes to choose to not vaccinate? no. I commend the moms I know who choose not to vaccinate for the amount of work they put in to make the best decision for their child. I'm talking months and months of legit research. People would have you think they are crazy but believe me they are not doing it on a whim. They are doing more research than they ever have in their lives for what is best for their children. Unless you've gone through it, you have nothing to say.
people say about how toxic it is to read the mum's post and replies - can they even read all these pro-vax comments in a neutral light and not say the same thing. some of these comments are simply disgusting
Load More Replies...Have you met the children that had some of the diseases that are preventable by vaccines? Oh, wait, you can't. They're dead!
Load More Replies...Well, you can't get autism if you die from polio. THINK what you READ
Load More Replies..."The vaccination debate is ongoing for a reason" The "wrong" reason.
Load More Replies...This is not an "american problem". I had a very gringy talk with a mother in France, that was anti-vaxxer because 2 of her kids were autists. I was sooo sick she was talking those s**t in front of her sons. I understand that having kds that do not enter "the norm" can be scary, that you can be angry and have to find a target for your anger but, it was so heartbreaking to listen to her while she was giving us detail about her kids medical condition (their private!!) and basically telling us she has to live with those difficult kids because of vaccins. For god sake her sons were sitting next to her and I'm sure this wasn't the first time they were hearing all those negative talks about themselves... I feel that in "western" countries we think that we're going to die old and forgot what it is to be scared of epidemics
Load More Replies...That was intensely stupid. Thank you for demonstrating that antivaxxers are idiots.
Load More Replies...Lemme see....because she's a narcissistic child abuser with the mental age of about four who can't understand why she can't let her child die?
Load More Replies...Wow! You're a horrible person! Maybe you should eat tide pods instead
Load More Replies...Riiiight. Child abuse makes her a "concerned" parent?
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