Anti-Vax Mom’s Messages After Finding Out Her 19-Year-Old Daughter Got Vaccinated Will Leave You Baffled
We make a lot of silly decisions when we come of age, but this 19-year-old girl probably made the smartest one she could. She got vaccines. Six of them. For us, being pro-vaccination might not sound like a big deal, but her anti-vax mom completely lost it, and someone on the internet documented her entire Facebook rage rant.
People have been destroying anti-vaxxers for a long time, but when nobody shuts them down for a duration of a full conversation, we get a good glimpse of what goes on in their heads. Weirdly enough, nobody talked about vaccines and autism, as this is usually the most prominent theme for anti-vaxxers to discuss. Scroll down to check out why this anti-vaccination mom and her friends felt “heartbroken” after her daughter went to the doctor to get an immunization, and let us know your thoughts about it in the comments!
Thank god she's smarter than her mamma
Holy s**t. I was not aware that so many people where this stupid. "Dont get vaccines that help you to not get sick". " They will make you sick". "Yes, the dead, miniscule amount of germs will make you sick.
I've got an autoimmune disease, and I still get my vaccines. I'm typically laid out for about a week afterwards, but they truly do help strengthen my immune system just a bit. Just that little bit is enough, since when I do catch colds and flu, they aren't as severe (I don't get fevers at all, which makes them drag on and on and on...). The problem is for people like me, are people like this mother and her buddies who refuse to get vaccinated. Diseases that were almost wiped out in North America are making a comeback because of them. We have a society mostly free of seriously harmful mass-epidemics because of vaccines. Herd immunity doesn't work for those with autoimmune or compromised immune systems when there are idiots like these that refuse to get vaccinated.
Well... i got my shots at 20, the first week after i felt fine, the next three i had a fever and felt like shit in general. Got small red bumps from the measels part of it. But that is a rarety. So yea, they can make you sick. But it's way better than actually getting the diseases themselves.
I don't think that it's that there are so many of them as that they tend to form herds and hang together. They live in a bubble.
@cherl bostrom that is thoroughly disturbing
NickelWorld123: not all vaccines have dead viruses in them. some have viruses in them that are still alive, but just barely. they are weakened to nearly dead to make it easier for the body to fight them, and to recognize them if the body is hit with them again.
You should look up how big the flat earth society has gotten. Ridiculous times right now
There are actually almost 130,000 in the closed/private support group this was taken from (screen shots)
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@Rasmus You can treat diseases naturally so you dont even have to risk getting sick either. Just use herbs/vitamins instead of vacs
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holy c*w. i was not aware you come back to earth, its been centuries since our last meet here (on earth). so, hows mars? you know we will be going there shortly, makes you wonder how we are going to get to mars shortly, right? ;)
I agree with you, these people are lunatics that don't vaccinate against horrible horrible diseases
What?! More like thank god she's smarter than ALL the idiots on that thread!! I'm sorry, but anyone that doesn't want to get vaccinated should be rounded up and put somewhere where they all live together. This way, the general public (which is smart enough to get vaccinated) is safe from these idiots. And when there's an outbreak in the unvaccinated, it only affects them. You can call it the thinning of the herd!
Bobby Clemente, in any society there are people who might not be completely immunized, such as babies who have not received all their shots yet, or people with compromised immune systems who cannot be vaccinated, and the rare instance where someone might not be completely immune even after getting vaccinated. But when enough people in a population get vaccinated, this vulnerable group can benefit from "herd immunity".
Hahaha this is sadistic but also like wouldn’t be entirely unfair evolutionarily speaking
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If the vaccines work why wouldn't the general public be safe?
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I have always been curious about suggestions such as this. If the rest of us are vaccinated, why should we be concerned about those around us that are not vaccinated?
'God' is just as pseudo-scientific as anti-vaccination ;-D
even churches support vaccination. You may be an athiest, but even those with faith can do the smart thing
Hahaha
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It's interesting that your faith in God's lack of existence is as fervent as that of those who believe in God. Frankly, those who believe in God are smarter. If they're wrong, they're no worse off. If you're wrong, whew. Bring sunblock, baby. It gonna get warm where you's goin'.
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536 upvotes... and all of them are deserved.
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https://thepeopleschemist.com/reasons-dont-vaccinate-children-vaccine-supporters-shouldnt-give/
Wow. What a pip. Classic child abuser. She's actually hunting for sympathy because her daughter doesn't want to die from cervical cancer. She's a piece of work. ...One thing the daughter can do is tell her physician that her medical information shouldn't be sent to her mother any more. She is a legal adult and she has the right to keep her personal information private. ... I suspect that if she does that, Mommy Dearest will threaten to take her off insurance, but that will just prove that she needs to get away from her abuser.
a weird off-shoot of Munchhausen by proxy
That is a very interesting thought....
Interesting and you’re probably right.
Defo!
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What is the matter with you people? Munchhausen By Proxy is a serious mental disability with the intent of doing harm. I do not agree with this woman either but she's not breaking the law. It is her right and her responsibility to do for her child what she thinks is best. If you want to step in and start telling people how to raise their children than stand back because someone is going to come in right behind you and do the same to you. MBP is a terrible and tragic matter of abuse. It is a crime. Deciding not to pump chemicals into your child is not a crime. God help us all if it ever becomes one.
My SIL died of cervical cancer. She had regular checkups that found the cancer early enough for treatment, which in her case would have been a partial hysterectomy. She lied to my brother and told him she got a second opinion and was treated successfully. All because her mother had her BRAINWASHED that if she did not have a baby of her own body that she was not a real woman. Her diseased reproductive system never got pregnant, and she died with her body absolutely riddled with cancer. I applaud this 19 year old young woman for protecting her health by getting immunized! Plus, immunization does not necessarily mean you're going to skip getting ill, I had measles as a child some months AFTER my shots were finished. Had chicken pox twice, too. (But I'm an admitted weirdo)
Vaccinations are never 100% and anyone who tells you that is lying. However if you DO get sick after getting vaccinated, you will recover more quickly and not get as sick in the first place, since you already have antibodies to the disease. .... None of these things are anything to play with. I remember vividly being forced into an ice bath when I had measles, because the fevers I was spiking were high enough to risk brain damage. There was no vaccination then. ...
Everyone still a chance of getting meas and chick pox, but stops the awful doses, that cause meningitis, encephalitis etc
What a terrible, sad story. I'm so sorry.
I thought the whole point was to keep her kid “safe” and “healthy.” Taking her off of medical insurance directly contradicts her original intentions and would give her daughter a hell of a lot of ammo. I kinda hope she does it.
She's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, though. I can see her making that threat, then being surprised when her daughter not only moves out, but stops having contact with her altogether.
Bunch of lunatics the don't vaccinate their children. It is a form of child abuse
actually all of her medical information legally is addressed to her, as soon as when a child turns 18 the doctors office would have automatically changed the guarantor, so the mom violated HIPAA by looking at her daughters records, not sure if her daughter left the paperwork out or if mom opened mail either way she broke the law.
...by looking at her daughter’s records and then POSTING PHI on the web for the world to see. She included specific names of the vaccines and the full face pictures/ Facebook info that can be taken from this mother’s profile are both considered indentifiers. Her daughter could sue the shit out of her.
Actually she doesn't have to tell her Doctor that, you have it slightly backwards. They aren't allowed to give the adult daughter's information to ANYONE else WITHOUT her express permission to do so. HIPAA laws are very clear on this. Also, the Mother further violated HIPAA when she shared the daughter's medical information (what vaccines she'd received) openly on the internet again, clearly without her daughter's permission. From what I read though, the Mother likely read her mail without her permission either, so broken laws all around...
when that vaccine came out, I was disappointed I was too old to get it
If this is in the US then the insurance policy holders (parents) will often receive bills for their (grown) children. We had to specifically state to our insurance carrier that our grown children could pay for (and receive) their own bills.
They might receive the bills, but they do NOT have the right to see detailed medical records of another adult. The daughter can legally prevent her doctor and the insurance company from permitting her mother to see those details. Doctor/patient confidentiality is sacred. Always.
The EOB's received by the insurance are addressed to the subscriber/policy holder and have general information regarding the visit, not full details. it is possible the mom saw the EOB, but sounds like she somehow saw a visit summary from the office. She can contact the insurance and request her EOBS to be sent to her instead.
@Thomas - Cool your jets. Public health is in EVERYONE'S interest and should never be permitted to be ignored because deliberately ignorant parents would rather see children die from easily preventable diseases than give up their hysterical attachment to bullshit. .... I think that any parent whose child suffers permanent damage from a disease that could have been prevented with a simple jab (measles causes varying levels of brain damage and blindness, mumps isn't called the "viral vasectomy" for nothing) should go to prison for assault causing bodily harm. .... Any parent whose child dies of an easily preventable disease IS guilty of murder. They'd rather massage their own egos than protect their own children - which is sick on many, many levels.
Most people alive today, that have had sex, likely have the HPV. And, they don’t even know it! Until you are tested for it specifically, you don’t know. Same thing with herpes! There are more people out there with it, than don’t have it. There are those that have the breakouts and awful rashes, and those that experience no breakouts for their entire lives, but can still pass the virus to partners.
There was mention of her daughter being "at work" so I think it's safe to assume the daughter has her own insurance (through work) now.
Most jobs...even really good jobs...don't provide any sort of insurance or the offer an insurance option that it so expensive it is simply out of reach for the majority of their employees. If they make enough money, they can potentially get coverage via the Affordable Care Act, but that is also too expensive for multitudes of people working even multiple jobs. As a student, it's unlikely that she gets paid enough for the "luxury" of health insurance unless someone else is paying for it, like her mom, unfortunately.
You know, Aunt Messy, when you refer to people like this as "classic child abusers" you diminish the pain of those who suffered under the heavy hand of real abuse. I may not agree with it either but these people simply choose not to pump chemicals into their children's bodies. That is their legal right. It's not abuse. She clearly raised a wise and open-minded child. That is to her credit, not her shame. Stop being so flippant with the term "child abuse". Believe me, what you're doing is much worse than what this woman did. And far more painful.
You simply show your profound ignorance. You almost have to practice to be so wrong. See my above comments and either do some research or shut up.
Yes, PRIVATE - the screen shots were taken from a CLOSED support group... which has almost 130,000 members. Not cool that someone posted it here :-(
So... doesn’t that mean someone from the “support group” posted it? And in what world is 130,000 members considered “private?”
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I wouldn't call her a child abuser but the mother is a needy for attention hippie!
She most definitely is a child abuser, as well as all the other wackos that don't vaccinate their children.
This mother's greatest achievement is that against all odds she has raised a daughter smarter than her.
Thank GOD!!!
Chino - I don't have a clue what you're saying - and I doubt many others do either. It looks to me like, in spite of her mother's prejudices, the daughter was sensible enough and old enough to decide for herself. What that has to do with belief in a god of any description I have no idea.
Would like to know where the father is in all this. Was he present? Did he have any hand in this either way?
Wow! That's the real Whale.to. That's a conspiracy theory website where you learn among other things Hitler was a British agent, there is a shadow government of shape shifting reptiles, and the US Navy is committing genocide on the flying dolphins. It's also a repository for some really old fringe reports on vaccines like risks of the small pox vaccination. We don't routinely vaccinate for small pox unless you're military or a first responder.
Maybe not against all odds; it's easier having a child smarter than you when you start out stupid.
AV'ers the Big here is BIG Natural Health. If you follow the $$ that's where the big gains are
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All vaccines are toxic. If you are too stupid to have noticed, virtually every outbreak of infectious disease hits the vaccinated much harder than the unvaccinated. So - the people who got shot up in order to NOT get the disease just got hammered by the disease they aren't supposed to get. How damned ineffective can you get? 2015 - Disney's measles fantasy - depending on who you read over 120 or more people got sick. NONE died, none got permanent damage - over 70% were vaccinated. Those NOT vaccinated are now PERMANENTLY IMMUNE - those with vaccines can NEVER get real immunity, biochemically impossible. Then NY State had measles outbreak - 90% of the sick were vaccinated. Mumps outbreak same summer - 97% were vaccinated. Whooping cough outbreaks start from the vaccinated - AND recent studies prove that you are 6.3X more likely to breathe flu viruses on others and they come FROM THE VACCINE because despite the lies you have been told, not all the viruses get killed. Mostly 3 factors -
LOL. You obviously didn't do your homework, or used biased sources that don't base their findings on fact. The data shows the exact opposite of what you say. The incident and mortality rate of diseases drops significantly to near zero levels every time an effective vaccine is introduced. It is completely false that diseases hit the vaccinated "first and harder". It's sad that antivaxxers have to lie to recruit others into their cult. Unlike you, I've actually provided facts in the form of a graph that show polio mortality rates vs. introduction of the vaccine. Oh look at that drop! Stating the names of scaring sounding chemicals out of context is a common anti-vaxxer scare tactic. As with anything, education is key. Take formaldehyde for instance. Food, such as pears, naturally produce orders magnitude more formaldehyde than what's present in a vaccine. You also breath out more formaldehyde than what is present in a vaccine. Formaldehyde is a natural byproduct of your metabolism. polio-5a9c...e16788.png
Take your own advice and stop parroting the antivaxxer conspiracy theory propaganda you learned off facebook.
@Ryan Thanks for being sensible. Formaldehyde, phenols, and other ethyl or aldehyde groups are far more present in nature, including produced by the human body, than people realize. I think people hear formaldehyde but their brains process it as CHEMICAL 'O DEATH because of vague ideas about embalming, and then panic as a result of misty recollection, spurious association, and random collation of tenuous facts.
And if you had a brain, you'd be on the floor playing with it.
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Bradley save your time, they will never understand because they do not read or think, they choose to eat, shit and drink all that the government say and big pharma. They rather watch tv instead of spending time with family and think for themselves. Sad.
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1) concentration of (neurotoxic and carcinogenic) formaldehyde. 2) Duration of time IN the formaldehyde. 3) Whether or not the virus is immune because some of them have thick enough cell walls to NOT be killed by the toxic vax ingredient formaldehyde. DUH. Do your phukn homework or be a lemming and parrot things you are told but don't know.
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http://whale.to/c/vaccination_racket_summary.html
I hope the 19 year old doesn't have any younger siblings :/
I hope all these people have no children, and do not go to public places either.
I openly discriminate against people who don't vaccinate (not those who can't due to socio-economic reasons). If my kid gets chicken-pox, before I can get that kid home, and isolated, he or she has probably infected yours. A potentially life-threatening situation. Keep your weak-ass non-vaccinated kids outta my kids' way, or I'll make them breathe on yours.
Exactly! Newborns cannot be immunized nor can some people, so having twits who refuse to get immunized wandering around unknown, touching things could lead to a baby or someone else getting a virulent , even deadly, disease/virus is beyond irresponsible. It's willfully ignorant and could even be attempted murder.
Saw a poor new born on the news a few weeks ago. Her older brother had had all his vaccinations but she'd been near someone who hadn't unknowingly and she was stopping breathing every few minutes due to the amount she was coughing. It was something like croup or whooping cough that is nasty in an older, vaccinated kid but life threatening for this poor baby and her parents who had to keep watching her stop breathing several times an hour... Unless there is a specific medical reason not to; in the UK it should be the law to vaccinate!!
Well one of the mothers friends hoped she did have a negative reaction to the vaccine, what a piece of work
One of them that said the awful things about HOPING op's daughter gets sick to "teach her a lesson" said she has their own daughter who would do something like this. And you know what. I wish that on her. I wish that person's daughter is smarter and all around better than them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8CbgaDsoHs
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There are over 130,000 in that group alone, and it was supposed to be a private/closed support group. Not cool that someone took screen shots and posted it publicly .
I have a bad feeling this lady has a LITTER
I would like to take a moment, while we're talking about vaccines, to talk about autism. Autism is not caused by vaccinations. The cause of autism is unknown, and scientists are working really hard to find out what causes it, but we know for sure vaccines are not the answer. Now, I would like to talk about autism itself. Autism is a developmental disorder that is on a huge spectrum. I myself was born with very mild autism, meaning I can go about my normal life most of the time with some social difficulties. However, it can range to the point where some cannot speak, and still need help with basic tasks. Ok, now that I got that out of the way... Please do not talk to people with autism like babies! It drives me mad! Also, please, do not talk about a person with autism to another person when the person with autism is nearby! We can hear you just fine, we're not stupid! Thank you for reading my rant. If you have any questions, comment below
My nephew was born with severe autism and has a lot of difficulties, but I never speak to him like a baby. I can tell he understands everything that is said to him, but he has trouble communicating what he is thinking or feeling. Sometimes people talk to him like he's stupid and it makes me angry. The kid has a memory like a steel trap. I see him every weekend and as soon as i walk in the door he begins his routine of asking me a lot of questions (where's my house, where's my clothes, where's my car Sandy, etc.) He has a long list of questions and every so often he'll throw in a question about something he heard or saw months ago. His memory is amazing. He is truly special and gifted and i wouldn't change him for the world. But to make a long story short, thank you for bringing up the fact that is has nothing to do with vaccines and especially for asking people to not treat people with autism like they're babies.
What's more, the doctor that originally made the claim that the 2 were related got disbarred for it. He made up fake reports to back his claim and got caught. Yet these idiots just keep repeating it.
Wakefield was trying to make and market his own vaccines and he couldn't get permission for testing them, so he tested them on children that were already mentally disabled. The "study" he did was discredited before the ink was dry and he no longer has a license to practice medicine. He narrowly avoided prison.
My nephew was born with low functioning autism. He is now 20 yrs old, and cannot talk, and has just a few hand signals for things such as "toilet" "food" "water", and other basics. Two of my own three children have mild autism, the eldest being classified as Aspergers Syndrome; try talking to her like a baby, and she'll either walk away, look at you like you're insane, or slap you...all depending on her mood lol. Two of my maternal uncles' also had autism (have since passed away from unrelated health problems), and various family member have related conditions such as Tourette's, and ADHD. For us it is clearly hereditary, from the maternal side. I get so incredibly frustrated with anyone who related autism to vaccines; that theory was debunked a very long time ago, and it's an insult to science.
I'm glad you seem to have a good grasp on your family's needs and seems like a caring network. If your family is not good enough proof it is genetic, I don't know what would convince the woonatics
I'd like to take from "please do not talk to people with autism like babies" and ask you to apply it to people in wheelchairs too!!
And then of course there's the anti autism diets that some parents do. Making your child vegan and feeding them a crapton of herbal supplements will do noting.
Actually they've found the cause of Autism. People with Autism have too many nerosynaptic connections in the brain. They don't "prune" them the way other people do. It's just something you're born with.
So it's like the next step in Human evolution: more brainpower and enhanced mental abillities. Being unable to express oneself through speech may be a side effect of that. However, maybe it just means that we (Humanity) will be able to communicate in different ways in the future.
Except, Esmeleleu, if you study fairy folklore, specifically the folklore of the Changeling Child, you'll find that such a child is almost exactly that of a person with Autism. So Autism has been around for as long as there's been humans. Only at one time it was blamed on fairies.
That's so important that you speak up! I hate when people handle others as babies or stupid, just because the other person is somewhat different than they are....Also, this vaccination craziness is actually scary, how far ignorance can go....
In ABA, I often find that kids are talked to like babies, so I needed to rant about that.
Wow guys, I didn't know myself the cause of autism and bam! You guys swoop in! Thanks!
You go honey! Thanks for the rant, more people need to hear this.
We now know that autism is strongly linked to the age of the father, and so is Down's Syndrome. The older the father, the more likely it is that there will be mutations in his children.
As someone who works in the Autistic community I see no correlation with age of father and autistic kids..
@Megan - Sorry where did you go to medical school again?
I have an idea of my own (*PLEASE NOTE* - I am not a doctor or medical researcher, neither am I trying to sell anything) about what might be responsible for the dramatic uptick of autism in the highly developed world. I have a sneaking suspicion that it may (I have no evidence, just a hunch) have something to do with everything we touch, eat, drink, breathe, etc being made, with, or contained in plastics. I worked for a short time in a plastics-molding facility many moons ago, and due to curiosity and a retention for things I find unusual I have a loose, totally unverified, yet plausible notion. To preface, I'm 45 and the PlasFac I worked in when I was 20 was actually a baby-product manufactury. (Luv'N'Care)(in the textile portion of the building (I never worked textile) the brand was Mini-Togs) Being a 'bleeding-heart liberal', I actually cared that what I helped produce would be in contact with babies. (will continue)
The growth is due to the change in the definition of autism, which is now a much broader term. Hence, more autistic kids.
Actually there is some evidence that it is also part of an inherited gene. For instance, my son is High Functioning Autistic (Asperger's Syndrome - but high end of that scale). We didn't think anything of his traits with not liking food to touch on a plate or being fussy with textures, not liking crowds, not looking in the eye, etc. etc. as my mother, my eldest brother and even my late grandfather (maternal) had some similar traits, even if not to such an extreme. Consequently my son wasn't diagnosed until he was 13. The specialist we saw said that there is some suggestion that it may be hereditary because people like my son would have just had to 'get on with it' back in my Grandfather's, mother's and even brother's day. Aspergers wasn't recognised until the 1980s, the fact that autism is a spectrum also wasn't recognised until around then. People just were not diagnosed whereas now they are, so it could be the improvement in diagnosis that has increased the number of kids with autism
Autism has been around for as long as humans have been around. You're BORN with it. Period.
It's partly due to growth in population. More people, more problems
(2nd continuation) In the roughly 2 generations since I was saving glass bottles, glass bottles have become an endangered species. Baby bottles are plastic. Everything the Mommy comes into contact with is plastic. And as the steady dominance of plastics has increased remarkably during my days, so have the cases of autism, as well as acute allergies. ONCE AGAIN - THIS IS A GUESS AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AUTHORITATIVE BY ANYONE.
(continuation) I became more aware of plastics' role in our lives, and the ever-increasing reliance on them. Plastics are derived from crude oil; they are cousins to gasoline. For that matter, these days, even chewing gum is a petroproduct with closer ties to Vaseline (which is actually used by some as a daily laxative) than any gum tree. When I was young, plastics were also young. We took our glass soda bottles back to the store because (well, because we would get 5-10c back per bottle) they were sent back to the bottler, washed, sterilized, and refilled. That was recycling back then - use what you have as long as you can. Then, DISPOSABLE became the go-to for 'Yuppies'. On the go, gotta make that dollar! Therefore, the investments went toward 100% DISPOSABLE EVERYTHING!!!!!! Plastics give off chemicals that, when taken into a human body, can mimic hormones. (will continue)
Yet the number of autism cases grow.....hmmmm.
They don't grow, it's that they're recognized and diagnosed more now instead of the excuses of "Well, they're just a weird child" or "they're really a fairy changeling, not a human being." I have a friend who found out as an adult she's on the spectrum. Her parents actually KNEW she was but didn't want to deal with it so they never told her. All this time she thought her various problems were because of her ADHD.
No. Our population grows, therefore the rates of autism grow. This has nothing to do with vaccines.
So... basically over the last few years, people have been having babies at later ages. The age of the father is directly correlated to Autism. So, bam.
Yeah, that's the only reason... corgi_eye_...4e1aaf.jpg
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The official govt court - the NVICP or National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has paid out over $3.5 BILLION dollars for injuries and deaths PROVEN to be caused by vaccines. Among them - 83 cases in which they paid out for PROVEN VACCINE DAMAGES which caused "neurological damage to include autism". Period. So you are wrong - SOME autism is vax related. Some is also caused by acetaminophen - which this last year the FDA recommended that you NOT take while pregnant (because of your fetus) or give to newborns, infants, or babies. In 1980 when the circumcision bozos made acetaminophen the painkiller of choice their circumcised boys IMMEDIATELY (and just them) immediately saw a jump in autism incidence. Two years in the 80s saw reducet acetaminophen sales because of contamination - those two years are the ONLY two years since the 70s in which autism decreased. So you give your kid a vaccine and it hurts their stomach becaue - duh - it's damaging their probiotic balance - and then b
Bradley, what color is the sky in your world? I'm genuinely curious as it appears you aren't living in the same phase as intelligent people.
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because they hurt - you give them some children's Tylenol..... Oops. Double whammy? Oh - and recently this year a scientific study stated that UNEQUIVOCALLY - a specific child had their autism caused by a vaccine. In reality what happens is that many vaccines have a possible negative response called encephalitis - a swelling in the brain. THAT can and does cause autism.
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You really need to at least take the time to watch VAXXED. And then do more research. I’m not going to get into a debate about vaccines here as it would be too long, but the USA has the heaviest vaccine administration in the world and has the highest autism rates and growing. Vaccines are big business and the CDC makes billions on them every year. Just follow the money!
Yeah, but you cant get diagnosed with autism if you die of polio first!
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Your right. Vaccines don't cause autism. Thousands of parents who watched their child regress straight after vaccination are probably all delusional
Schizophrenia often doesn't show up until your 30s. For a while some people thought owning a cat caused it (specifically cleaning the litter box) simply because a lot of Schizophrenics owned cats. But that's been debunked just like the vaccines causing Autism has been 100% debunked. People were going on correlation, not causation.
"I hope she had an awful reaction" Fuck these people.....................hard
That person is a terrible, terrible person. Wishing someone ill like that? So messed up.
I mean, I can’t say I don’t hope these people end up catching whatever they’ve refused to protect themselves against...
The mom agreed with her too!
The mother is hoping the same thing. She wants to be able to say "I told you so". The worst thing is that if the girl gets sick even an year later, the mother will say "I told you so". I feel bad for children who can't go to the doctors by themselves.
I mean I can understand it from her perspective but even so it still makes no sense
I hope someone was able to be get a screenshot of these comments to the daughter to confirm that she made the right choice and none of these people have her best interests at heart. Yikes.
Man, I hope she never sees it. This would be fucking devastating... her own mother wishing her ill.
"8 years I've been teaching her and she just listens to someone she deems more educated." Yeah like a fucking doctor who went to medical school? I'm pretty they know more about that shit than you do after reading some articles on Facebook lady
My thoughts exactly!
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that when you increase flu vaccinations in a specific population group, THAT group has higher flu incidence the following year. Hmmm. Look up OAS and it easily explains WHY the flu shot phooks up your immune system.
I was thinking the same too! Well said, Hannah
"Hey Mom, tell me again where you read vaxxing is BAD and DANGEROUS? From a stripper? Thanks Mom, but I think I'm going to listen to the advice of an actual doctor and so should you! " (aachoo!) Mother: "what's that, what's happening?! Sounds like a reaction from those shots, ohhhh nooo!" Daughter: "it's just dust in my nose, mom. I haven't caught autism , don't worry..."
lol
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sorry Hanna most MD's don't know how the body works,they are symptom managers.Its stupid simple our blood supply feeds the whole body its a closed loop.Its not designed to be breached with chemicals the body cant Identify.Those chems go to the organs and cause damage.I have been sick most of my life.I found out in 2000 when I almost died from a reaction to a work required vaccine.the damage vaccines are doing to us.Boost the immune system and let the body do its job .Its been taking care of us for thousands of years.Most vaccines are for things that are prevented.such as good hygiene not screwing around,etc thanks for letting me rant I'm living in hell thanks to vaccines destroying my nervous system.
That's just stupid. Have you not seen where measles, and other DEADLY diseases are making a comeback? That's because of these anti-vaxxers. Even the best hygiene won't protect you from some of those diseases! A child in Colorado actually caught the plague. I'm sorry that you are having problems with your nervous system, but for the good of society, vaccines are necessary.
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Not everyone who isn't an MD is allowing theirself to be kept in ignorance as deeply as you, dear. Fact - in med school doctors get a short afternoon on vaccines, consisting of flawed vax theory, dishonest history, and their current CDC jab schedule. Agammimmunoglobuminaemia was found mid-1900s. People with this condition (estimated to be about 6% of the population) don't make ANY antibodies at all. Hmm - what is the significance you should wonder? Well vaccines are called effective because of their "antigen response". That means an antigen - something the body removes with antibodies - causes the body to make antibodies to get rid of the antigen, whether that is a food or pollen one is allergic to - or a vaccine ingredient. So - the industry says that vax "effectiveness" is proven by this - but they never test the results of the vax in terms of reducing the disease and measuring the safety of the vaccine in any sort of scientific manner. The industry has, shockingly, NEVER, EVER had
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a safety study in which there was an inert placebo. In which a vaccinated person was compared to an UN-vaccinated person -and thus no safety study is actually even scientific - by definition. So the people with this big long condition got the same childhood diseases as the vaccinated people now get and their cure rate and cure times were not different from the vaccinated people at all. This proves that "antigen response" is NOT an accurate measurement of vaccine effectiveness at all. Oh - and your doc doesn't know about agammaimmunoglobuminaemia, nor is he/she likely to know about OAS - Original Antigenic Sin - which PROVES beyond doubt that getting flu shots prevents your immune system from effectively dealing with the influenza virus as well as being non-vaccinated does. Oops. Perhaps if you knew what the hell YOU were talking about instead of just parroting the lamestream point of view - you'd say "HEY! THAT explains the Canadian Flu Paradox." You know, the repeated observation tha
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Yeah they have our best interests at heart, don't they? The indu$try that's controlled by Big Pharma.
So much people without any medical/scientific/AnythingUsefulInThisSituation formation, who still think they KNOW how vaccines work after 5 minutes of research on google...Pitiful, but Isaac Asimov was right saying "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"...and not only in US, sadly...
It's Idiocracy. Soon enough we'll be watering crops with Mountain Dew.
Brawndo - it's what plants crave
It's the thirst mutilator. It's got electrolytes.
I thought it was Gatorade. Because of the electrolytes.
hahaha i love that you made this reference
Electrolytes, they're what plants crave.
Maybe Soylent Green would be better. Made with anti-vaxxers. And before you get upset, it's a JOKE people! :)
This sort of ignorance is everywhere, So-Cat. We have the idiots here in Australia as well :( Sadly, they breed...
Truely this problem is international. It is a bad thing to say, but for me it is how natural selection works nowdays. The one who does not understand the value of vaccines, wiil be enevitably demiseed. Sadly they may influence others...
Not so sadly in my view. Natural selection is a good thing. If you're influenced into bad choices, then you're in the right place for being selected against. Better out than in!
What's really sad is, to be really effective and protect population from epidemics, vaccines must be taken by everyone. So these people are not only endangering themselves.
She reacted like her daughter took shot of heroin
She probably would have all right with the heroin...if is was organic.
I wish they had been around when I was a kid too ,friend's who died of polio ,some who lost months of school due to whooping cough , babies in utero damaged by German measles .Too manykids/people dying from things that the vaccines prevent or minimise today ..sigh
Bahaha!!! So sad but you've got a point!
So why aren't all of us who were vaccinated dead or disabled?
Damn good question! :-)
uhm I have M.E., one of many so called MUPS and without an explanation anything is possible, but because of antivaxxers (which I'm not) this can't even be discussed...to rule it out completely would be foolish too, imho
I keep asking the antivaxxers where the bodies are. Shouldn't babies be dropping like flies from all those vaccinations? How is it that there are any kids at all?
because we didn't get polio, maybe...
Some people have already died, Einstein, inc many vets who were given vaccs for anthrax before going to the Gulf War.
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Well. 1 in 6 children have chronic illness BUT you didn't get as many as they do. Born in 1995? 13 vaccines... 2017 it's 73 doses so...
Yes. And I wish they'd all been around when I was a kid, so I wouldn't have had to suffer through mumps (twice), measles, scarlet fever, chicken pox, and every other thing that are now easily preventable. There's nothing more selfish, ugly, and abusive than to force children to go through that hell.
I had Guillian Barre syndrome and am not allowed to take several different vaccines, so it is crucial that those around us are vaccinated!!! I was also a child born with a faulty immune system and was sick with everything except measles. Anti vaxxers are deadly to people with compromised immune systems!!!
That's another thing people don't consider, is that some people are more susceptible than others, so when you don't vaccinate your child you're not only putting them at risk, but someone else's kid too
They could be the death of you! Gosh, uou you are an excellent reason why they should vaccinate. They need to do it to help the herd immunity
Thank you , thank you for sharing this! It is so important that people understand this
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That's probably why your immune system was compromised...
I mean you can believe in what you want but don’t force it on your children.... At least that’s what I believe
I agree, but in this case, the anti-vaxers believe vaccines are actual poison, so they think they're saving their lives. It's a bit like when your parents teach you against drug abuse, for example. Sure, we know about the importance of vaccines, but these people believe in conspiracies.
Most all if them wete vaccinated too, I'd bet!
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I'm sure y'all have chemistry degrees, understand the chemistry behind the ingredient lists, and have read real research published by peer-reviewed scientific journals ;)
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These people actually read ingredient lists, and know history, and all too many have children who have become gravely ill soon after the child was vaccinated. They have seen the evidence of how NOT safe vaccines are, and know that if a study is funded by someone with a vested interest, then it is NOT unbiased.
Only that not vaccinating endangers the so-called "herd immunity", that relies on as many members of a group as possible to be vaccinated in order to protect those that cannot be (for whatever valid reason, like allergies, extremely weak immunesystem, whatever). If YOU don't vaccinate, OTHERS get hurt as well.
Yeahbut, you know what? They. Don't. Care. I've seen it written, they ONLY care about their own kids, completely and utterly and see this as a virtue. They are completely convinced that vaccines are poison/cause autism/cause chem trails, whatever else they've picked up on the internet (could this even have developed without the internet?) and will not be persuaded otherwise as they have their cronies to back them up every time. So, fuck anyone else's kids/babies/people with compromised immune systems, they're gonna lug diseases around rather than get a jab or two.
If vaccines work, Caroline, then you shouldn't be so damn scared. Nice language by the way.
My mom also is against vaccinations and never got me or my brother vaccinated, he's twenty now and I'm seventeen, I told her I wanted to be vaccinated and she said that even if she doesn't agree with it it's my choice, so I'm glad she at least doesn't try and fight me about it
Good on her and good for you for speaking up!
Good for you for using your brain, but it shouldn't be a choice.
Good for you ,for voicing your opinion and good for mum for allowing you to control what goes on your body
Smart kid. Nutjob mom.
people in Africa are screaming crying and dying for vaccins!!!!! you stupid ignorant woman...you did a search on google, and now you are an expert?? I FORBID YOU TO RUN TO A DOCTOR WHEN YOU GET ILL!!
This is so stupid. I'm glad my parents aren't complete idiots and get me vaccinated
I know right
She raised a young woman who felt strong enough in her own beliefs and decisions to go do What she felt was right for her body. If the mom did her best to educate, isn't it saying something that the daughter is smart enough to make her own choices? Did she want to raise a person who only thinks just like her?
Yes. She did. She believes the bullshit, and even though HER parents vaccinated her, she wants her daughter to suffer.
She thinks her daughter is going to wake up Autistic with cancer now. So yeah, she wanted her daughter to just parrot her.
Until the child is an adult the parent I can make medical decisions... but good lord let the girl be! She's a legal adult and can make her own medical decisions. Smart girl doing her own research and talking to a health care provider.
The parent shouldn't have to decide, it should and must be mandatory. It's not a matter of choice.
You're very smart! We should all let the government to choose for us wright? You think this is intelligent? Look at that happens in Venezuela!!!!
Nazism is always the ticket, Aahzmandus! kitteh_eye...005b4d.jpg
I hate that that is needed, but it really is
A bunch of delusionals fulfilling one another’s paranoia. I don’t know how you fight this level of idiocy 😨
Anti-vaxxers are flat-earthers who can harm *everyone*. They read articles without any actual knowledge of the topic, ignore the debunking, b/c it makes them feel better to think (???).... Than to eradicate measles, mumps, whooping cough, smallpox, polio --- y'know, disease that can kill, maim for life, small problems like *that*!
I say, SEGREGATE students who's parents don't vaccinate! let's see which group has the higher mortality rate. "Sorry your kid can't go with the group to the excursion, some kids have just recovered from chicken-pox, and you haven't vaccinated, its too risky for your child."
Most states now require standard immunization records before a child can be registered and admitted to schools. The kids with no immunizations must be home-schooled.
Damn straight good shout!!
I say let them get the damn pox and see how well their inferior immune systems handle it! Might shut some of these people up.
Oh man...then the parents would just cry DISCRIMINATION!!!
Willful ignorance is the worst kind.
Would like to get this mom on a plane TODAY, get her to a region of the world without access to vaccines. She can explain to the sick that they are lucky they didn't get the vaccines, their life devastating illnesses aren't really that bad.
Here is a picture of the Bridge family's children. Please look at and think. 12 beautiful children GONE. This is what happens when you can't vaccinate. Take full advantage of modern medicine my friends. grave-5a98...c04946.jpg
I'm truly horrified. I have a rare primary immunodeficiency disorder and I cringe every time I go into the doctor's office and there's some person (most likely not vaccinated) coughing their germs all over. I get every vaccine that I can, but some don't "take". I have no immunity to measles, for example, and I get warned whenever there's a local case. Then, I have to stay inside to avoid those who haven't been vaccinated. I was hospitalized with flu complications before vaccines were readily available to me. Because of my immune disorder, every time I get something minor like a cold, it escalates and I get very sick. I cannot believe that there are still people out there who think that a vaccine is dangerous. Those are the folks that I'm afraid of ... their ignorance may kill me some day.
I can kind of understand from their perspective *if* they truly thought they were having to decide between autism or the chance of contracting an illness; that would be a tough call for any parent to make, but it’s cases like yours that truly devastate me. People like you are counting on the rest of us to not get them sick and it’s not fair that you have to be scared of the world. It wasn’t your choice to be immunized-compromised, and it shouldn’t be theirs to put you in danger by not vaccinating.
If vaccines cause autism, I would still vaccinate my children. Autism is NOT worse than polio, measles, mumps, or death!
I don't even understand if vaccines did cause Autism. You'd rather your child die then live with something that can be minor. And even when severe I'd still think it's preferable to an agonizing death.
Her mom Googled the ingredients of vaccines once and now thinks she's smarter than people who went through med school.
Doesn't anybody believe in REAL science anymore? This woman and these commenters apparently subscribe to voodoo and not scientific understanding! It's a sad world with all of these people getting all of their knowledge from Facebook postings! Listen people, go and vaccinate!
Trust me, people who practice Voodoo are far more sane than Anti-Vaxxers.
In Latvia the more serious vaccines are mandatory by law. Why isn't it like that in the USA?
Due to recent outbreaks, many states have already, or are in the process of, revoking the ability to "opt out" of routine vaccinations.
In some school districts children are not permitted to go to a public school unless they are fully vaccinated. Many doctors refuse to treat unvaccinated patients, too. Mine does not want sick kids in his waiting room infecting little ones who are too young for vaccines or older people who can't be vaccinated. ... People yell and scream about it, but he demands that ALL new patients fill out a questionnaire online before they're even allowed to set foot in the office.
It sort of was until Jenny McCarthy opened her yap about a flawed study of 12 children who had been vaccinated and showed some signs of autistic behavior.
Truth. You never really heard about the anti-vaxxers until she used her grade-C celebrity to cry about it. She just can not accept that maybe her child just isn't as perfect as she is (or thinks she is)! She should have used her big mouth to open minds and pocketbooks for helping treat autism!
First of all, the anti-vaxxers show a clear prejudice against autism. o what, if your child is born autistic? How is that any different from having a child being born with one less/one plus chromosome (which has nothing to do with vaccines but with genetics, pure and simple?). Do these people support "eugenics" as well? Refusing to vaccinate your child can harm a community, a city, a whole country. Out of "beliefs". In this context, I would call the anti-vaxxers *fanatics* - people that believe in something with such determination that they simply shut their ears because their brains no longer function alone - they're on a heard level. I've never heard anything good coming from fanatics. By the way, autism is not at all bad as they try to picture it. Is it a little more difficult to raise andrelate to an autistic child? Indeed. But it's even harder to bear with the death of a child that could have been prevented. http://autismmythbusters.com/general-public/famous-autistic-people/
Wanna see my beautiful autistic son? Yup, it’s a challenge, but I wouldn’t trade him for anything. F6EDEE12-0...cd664.jpeg
Dr. Hayes, thank you for showing us the photograph of your wonderful and amazing son. We also have a son that is in the medium to mild spectrum with some developmental delays as well. He will turn 29 on April 7 of this year. Like a lot of autistic kids, he exhibits some savant skills geared towards people's names, dates and places. He never forgets anyone he has ever met or when he met them. He can tell you what he got for Christmas and birthdays from the time he was 2 years old on up. It wasn't until he was nearly 4 that we discovered he was hyper sensitive to nearly all artificial colors, flavors and most preservatives. They aggravated his ADHD to no end. OH, he never meets someone he doesn't like and will talk their heads off if they mention anything about country music or the Bible.
Awesome. I feel the same way about my son. He is an amazing, loving human being.
Perfect example of someone who has their Facebook friends locked down to an echo-chamber, how do you even find that many anti-vaxers.
I would bet it's a dedicated FB page
That makes sense.
yeah it is
This feels like a post to get be all riled up. A lot of people only surround themselves with like minded people. I disagree, but I don't know this small group of people. *Shrug*
*to get people all riled up (dammit siri)
I would be willing to bet it's posted on a page dedicated to anti-vaxers
This mother is f*cking crazy!
I feel sad for the daughter. She's the only one with enough sense and initiative to go and do the right thing. It's sad that this poor girl had to be put at risk for so long because of her mother's ignorance. I wish people would just stop this nonsense.
Credit, respect, and hopes for continued courage to the daughter opting to get the vaccines.
Dear lord... her poor daughter
Refusing to get a child vaccinated should legally be considered child abuse. End of story
Word!
I have 1 comment for anti-vaxxers, stay the hell away from the rest of us!
Here at my place.. the government just made vaccination cards mandatory for school admissions. 👍🏽
Same. I don't understand how is possible that she went to school with others?!
Probably home schooled her kids.
People that do not Vax their kids, should not be allowed to have their kids in public school. Vaccinations are a proven science and these losers are holding on to a study that was done by a man who was exposed as a fraud, lost his medical credentials and was sent to prison. To all the Anti-Vaxxers, I ask, Where's Polio if Vaccines don't work?
I had a choice; Risk my son getting polio or get a vaccine..... Is this a hard choice for people? Vaccinate !!!
Good for the daughter to get out from under the yoke of her parents (or at least mom). That can be very difficult to do!
If I ever have a child (I hope so, I can't yet due to a disease) I will vaccinate! I'd rather want my kid vaccinated than the poor kid getting polio or another horrible disease. And if my child gets a reaction. Well, that's sad. But better a reaction which will go away. And to the people claiming vaccinations cause autism. Well, I'd rather want my kid to have autism than polio. My SO works with people who have different forms of autism. They live on a farm where they are taken care of. My SO is one of the caregivers. I'd rather have this happen than my child getting polio or another horrible disease. Though I do not even believe vaccines cause autism. It could have been there from birth and develop further. And then they can get symptoms after the vaccinations. It doesn't mean that the vaccines CAUSE autism!!!
And to the people wishing this girl harm because she got herself vaccinated.. Oh I can't describe it. This makes me so angry. Wishing harm to a very clever 19 year old, just to "prove" their ‘right’. They need to be shamed for the rest of their lives! What kind of person wishes harm to a healthy person? That is just sick. I have 2 diseases myself, and even though I have excruciating (indescribable) pain 24/7, going on 12 years now, I would not wish this to my worst enemy. (I don’t have enemies, but if I had them, I still would not wish this to them). This is my opinion. I am glad I see my opinion shared a LOT over here. There are still smart people in the world who listen to very well educated doctors who studied extremely hard to help people with medical problems of any kind.
Polio stole over 50 years of my life.
I'm so sorry!
If the governments are so nice and they want us just to be happy and safe then WHY in Venezuela the people are dying from starvation because they cut all the supplies, why are they killing so many children in Siria??? Why?
I've met far right and far left people who are 'anti-vax', and one far left guy who is that way does feel strongly that the scientific consensus on global warming/climate change is true, and that evolution is biological reality. I agree w/ him on the latter two points and asked what is is epistemological basis (way of knowing) those latter points? His response: the scientific consensus. So then I said, so what about vaccines? Isn't the scientific consensus that they work well and don't cause autism? He got angry.
They do. He's completely irrational about he, he knows that and he's embarrassed by it, but he can't admit he's wrong, because...ego?
what the actual fuck did i just read?
Good question.
Dear God. "I hope she doesn't die!" In countries without easy access to vaccines, kids walk for DAYS to get the shots that they know can save their lives because they see what life is like both with and without vaccination, and they know life without vaccination is very dark indeed (particularly when you aren't fortunate enough to be benefitting from herd immunity). I just can't.
"she decided to listen she deemed more educated" Well, a doctor with all those years and years of education and experience can't be more educated than MOM, can he? All this hand-wringing about how her child has deceived her. What a narcissist! And all of her "groupies" clamoring around her. I was a bit sympathetic then one of those harpies wanted something terrible to happen to this person, so that she could learn a hard lesson. After that, I think those b**** can rot in hell.
How did such a smart kid come out of such a stupid mother?
Vaccines aren’t bad... if you don’t get vaccinated, you have more of a risk walking to work than vaccinated people have being around someone who’s acually sick.
This is absolutely insane. Her daughter is an adult, she can make her own decisions. What if any of these children of "anti-vaxers" want to be in the medical field or travel to underdeveloped countries? They have to have vaccines for that. If there only argument is the fear of getting Autism and/or being pumped full of chemicals, I have three points. 1. We eat chemicals, we bathe in chemicals, we breathe chemicals, we clean with chemicals- so unless you live like a bear in the woods, you are going to come into contact with chemicals. 2. Autism is typically diagnosed before the age of 2- there are no cases of "Adult-onset" Autism and 3. It has been researched and proven that there is no direct correlation between vaccines and an Autism diagnosis. And, lest we forget the rest out break of small pox and other nearly eradicated diseases because of anti-vaxer's.
My guess is, the daughter learned the truth from her high school biology class, and was just waiting until she was of legal age. Probably went to some on-campus counseling sessions during her freshman year of college to get some support too.
What a hysterical bunch of idiots! She is a young adult making an informed decision about her own health. Get over yourselves!
I just can't with this level of stupidity. I have actually lost friends of mine because of the decision to vaccinate my children. My...almost grown...teenage daughters that are going off to college... and have been properly vaccinated. So....when the next stages of mumps and measles come around again...do we just put their kids in a bubble? Because more than likely....in their opinions....Vaccinations are evil!!! UGH
Anti-vax is child abuse
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No is not!
Yes it is. When you don't vaccinate your child you're putting them at risk of DYING of a vaccine preventable disease. You're saying you HATE your kid so much you want them to DIE. Might as well buy a gun and blow their brains out, it's kinder and more humane than letting them die slowly and painfully of polio. So it's more than just child abuse to be anti-vaxx, it's attempted murder!
We three sisters had polio in 1953, before Jonas Salk found his vaccine. My sister was in an iron lung at age 10. Every morning the kids on the ward said their names, so the kids could all know who had died in the night. At 73 she still has nightmares about it. My bones were malformed and I was crippled and in agony, walking on the insides of my ankles until age 62, when there was a surgery to rebuild my feet and ankles. If you decide not to immunize your children, be sure you are ready to face them being crippled for life, or dying a horrible death, possibly taking other people’s children with them. There are lots of worse things than autism.
This really moves me. My mother is in a similar situation. She has broken her back twice, and she's in decline. Best wishes to all of you.
so many delusional people these days.... and what is annoying the most, antivaxxers are so brainwashed, it's impossible to argue with them.
Part of me wants to say that anti-vax movement is a great way to thin the herd and eliminate people that are too stupid to live but then again....it's not the kids fault...it's the parent....so sadly the wrong person would be punished by their stupidity.
It is also terrifying that if someone not vaccinated gets one of those terrible diseases we are trying to prevent, it can easily spread to people who CAN'T get vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons, AND even to the people who ARE vaccinated if their immune systems are compromised for whatever reason. Measles epidemics are happening again because of the anti-vaccination whackjobs letting their carrier children around people who could potentially get sick. It's gotten bad enough that I am considering home schooling my VACCINATED children just to try to avoid the chance that little Timmy in their class isn't vaccinated and has somehow started spreading whooping cough or some other DEADLY disease. Hell, I'm genuinely afraid to leave my home on many days because of this.
I am so sorry for the rant/novella I just posted as a reply to your comment
Some people are just dumb. Vaccines have saved hundreds of millions more that they have ever harmed (if any!). Just do the maths - the risk is infinitesimal compared to the certainty of the damage these diseases can cause if you are unfortunate enough to succumb. I'd normally say something like, "This woman shouldn't be allowed to breed and have kids", but then we wouldn't have her far smarter daughter around.
The last comment: 'Go ready fully equipped with the knowledge..' - Priceless!
Smart daughter!!
I am very disturbed that a mother would publicly post her daughter's health information. Her daughter is over the age of 18 and is responsible for what goes out and what doesn't. I think that the article is definitely worth reposting! except that, in this litigious society, I don't want to be responsible for the spreading of personal information without express permission. FROM THE DAUGHTER.
What a narcissist. More concerned that HER control was thwarted. Classic case of "How dare she defy me". I have some choice words for the harpies that are feeding her narcissism, especially the one who hopes that something terrible happens to this young brave woman ("because that'll show her we're right"): May Karma bite you on the ass and give you all the horrible things that you wished upon someone trying to protect herself.
Painful to read.
I wonder how many of these anti-vaxxers have been vaccinated when they were kids... And if they realize that they didn't die from any horrible disease etc... ? And the one comment wishing harm upon the 19y.o. is just awful. Sick people -_-
Probably most of them were vaccinated. Depends on the age, though. The chicken pox vaccine didn't exist until 1992.
I don't know what's more appalling... The level of mental insanity of the mother, or the fact that she has so many friends coddling her and feeding into her insanity. This lady is truly disturbed.
Probably an anti-vaccination group she belongs to. Honestly, social media sites should use their right as a privately owned company to remove any kind of groups that promote these ideas. They are not required by any law to allow them to spread these lies and filth. I'm honestly shocked that spreading anti-vaccination propaganda isn't against their Terms of Service and End User License Agreement. Hell, it may be. And if it is, they need to start enforcing it.
I understand the distrust of drug companies. And if I had a kid with severe allergies I might think twice about getting my child vaccinated. But ALL drugs can cause side effects in some people, but the danger of the disease usually outweighs the small risk of the vaccine.
Kids with severe allergies and other conditions that can't get vaccinated are the whole reason why it's so terribly important that children that are healthy need to get vaccinated. It's not only for their own sake, but also for the sake of others who can't get the shots themselves and rely on herd immunity. If you had a child with allergies, nobody would blame you for being afraid of drugs in general, I would be too.
Terrifying. Who would wish ill on their own child to "teach them a lesson"? And then admit it on social media. What horrible, horrifying people.
Sorry lady, the doctor is clearly more intelligent than you are.
i was so hard to read this without cringing.
Einstein said - "Two things are endless, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe.".
The saddest part is the Lancet article all the anti-vaxers rely on was debunked 25 years ago. They would rather put their children at risk than believe the truth.
Smart kid deserves a better mother. There are many more young people who have found out their parents are idiots and have neglected their fundamental medical care due to deranged cult mentality. Thank goodness we can get these bright young people safely caught up on their shots.
WOW so many ignorant people on this earth ..Anti vaxers are sick sick people. Why would you endanger millions of other children by not getting your child vaccinated ? Completely selfish dangerous
Some people are such idiots
Woohoo! Thank goodness she is more wise than her mother
How? How is this even possible?! I am so shocked right now. Do they not realise that the only reason they don't get diseases like polio and smallpox BECAUSE of vaccinations?!?!?!?
what the fudge
"She just decided to listen to somebody who she deems more educated" you say it like she's wrong. What kind of person honestly thinks they know more than a doctor who went to school for many years? If anyone replied that this mother may be a doctor I'm just gonna ignore it because if she was I REAALLY doubt she'd be against vaccinations. Thank God the daughter is smarter than her incompetent mother
Anti-vaxxers are endangering children. Even if vaccinations DID cause autism, which it doesn't, what would you rather have: an autistic child or a dead child. The only thing even remotely wrong with vaccinations is that they hurt like hell, and even then a little distraction stops it all. Just vaccinate your kids already.
I'm more disappointed at how many people agreed with the mom? Like holy crap, I wanted to scream the entire time I read this. People are ridiculous, but I'm glad she was smart enough to believe her doctor, a LICENSED PROFESSIONAL
people are so retarded
So, I'm a firm believer that people can believe what they want and live they want. AS LONG AS they are not harming anyone else, putting anyone else at risk... Not vaccinating your kids and sending them out into the world is so incredibly dangerous. And stupid. And ignorant. I'm so proud of this girl for going and getting vaccinated despite her mom's crazy ranting. Good for her!!
I'm embarrassed to be the same species as these people.
Me too.
My favorite part partea mea favorita "8 years I've been teaching her and she just decided to listen to somebody she deems more educated". Truth is hard.
If immunizations are so bad, why aren't all the previous generations going down like flies? Makes me sad about the future risk. Anybody up for another polio epidemic? I know me and mine are safe!
Sadly, because these people can become spreaders of those diseases, if you and yours have a compromised immune system due to an illness, or even just having to take steroids for some kind of medical treatment (they can weaken the immune system), you can become vulnerable to these easily prevented diseases. These self-righteous, circle-jerking, idiotic, science denying cretins aren't just putting themselves and their kids at risk. They are putting us all at risk.
This is so deeply disturbing. I am committed to non-violence, and while I have always been an ardent feminist I am also a gentleman. But when confronted with this child abuse I want to slap this woman so hard she spins herself into the ground like a cheesy cartoon character.
Here's the difference...while you may have the URGE to, you DON'T. Although I could see sitting the dingus on a couch and slowly dumping all the evidence that PROVES that the lying liar that lied was wrong, and also his CONFESSION that the reason why he falsified the study was to sell his OWN formulation of vaccine.
I wish they didn't block the names. That kind of crazy shouldn't be private.
These people are the very definition of "batshit crazy."
She is a brave young woman with a huge amount of sense. It must have been really hard to go against her mothers' opinion like that. A big thank you from everyone else.
I'm concerned about the privacy violation. At 18, her doctor's office and insurance should have split off her account/health info from Mom's. Daughter would have to provide consent to give someone else access.
Oh, and it's a federal law.
This woman and her friends are nuts. There is no proof vaccines are bad no matter want the internet says.
talk about guilting the poor kid
WTF?!?!
What's bothering me the most is that ignorant people such as these do not only hurt themselves but others too with their decisions! It really upsets me...