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Woman Presents 6 Constructive Arguments On Why Those Who Consider A Fetus To Be A Baby Are Wrong
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People, Social Issues1 year ago

Woman Presents 6 Constructive Arguments On Why Those Who Consider A Fetus To Be A Baby Are Wrong

Abortions and recent laws related to it have always been followed by a heated debate. It divided people and made them choose between “pro-life” and “pro-choice” or “pro-reproductive rights” and “anti-abortion”. After Texas implemented an anti-abortion law on September 1st, 2021, people became even more vocal about this issue, stressing what really is at stake in this case. One of the TikTok users @drq_dpt made a video accentuating what should change in the system after a fetus is recognized as a baby. This TikTok soon became viral with more than 400k views inviting people to discuss this matter further.

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Talks about the anti-abortion law stirred quite a debate and caused a division in society

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This TikTok user decided to share her thoughts on changes that should be implemented if a fetus is considered to be a baby

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These two viewpoints draw a very strict line between what people believe is the right thing to do in case of unwanted pregnancy. Those who choose “pro-life” are known to be concerned about the well-being of a new life, not taking into account that the woman who is carrying the fetus would not be able to raise and take care of the newborn. Their main argument is that even at the very early stage, the fetus is already alive and has the right to live. “Pro-choice” supporters think that women are the ones in this case who have the right to have the final say. There are numerous situations when an abortion is needed in order to save a woman’s life.

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Quozette Valera who is a pelvic floor physical therapist shared her thoughts on TikTok about the anti-abortion law and how things should change so that both, the fetus and woman, would be well. One of the most important parts of the debate is whether the fetus should already be counted as a live human being. Having this in mind, the TikTok user presented some of the possible implementations in case the fetus is considered to be a baby.

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She started her video by suggesting there should be a life insurance policy that would entitle women who had a miscarriage to receive insurance. While applying her makeup, she also added that with this implementation, having 6 miscarriages would then make her a millionaire. Quozette suggested that if a fetus is a baby, then child support should also start not from the moment the baby is born, but right after the pregnancy is confirmed. She then goes on with a few more examples of how things should change once the fetus is treated like a baby.

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The TikTok user ended her video by saying “But now because a fetus isn’t a baby, you just want to control a woman’s reproductive rights”. A lot of people in the comments agreed with the creator, stating that it is easy to demonstrate one’s morals, but it takes time and recourse to actually make these things happen.

What is your take on this situation? Leave your thoughts in the comments down below!

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You can watch the full video here!

@drq_dptyall be splitting hairs over the wrong thing🙄 #mindyourownuterus #prochoice #proabortion #reproductiverights #reprorights #sb8 #exvangelicaltiktok♬ original sound – Tik Toker

People in the comments also expressed their opinions on the ongoing discussion about reproductive rights

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Burs
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1 year ago

This is brilliant. But for me there is one argument that winds them all. Foetus are not babies but it is irrelevant. The government does not have the right to ask you to donate your body to save another person, even if they will die. They cannot force you to donate blood or give part of your liver to save a citizen that will die. Every “pro life” person would be against that. Therefore the government cannot force women to risk their life and health and give their uterus to a fetus no matter if it’s or not a person.

Abhinc
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

and the government can't force you to give organs after you die. dead bodies have more rights than women !! and btw i think we need to stop calling them "pro life'. they are just anti freedom !!

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Ausrine Ciapaite
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1 year ago

I'm so sad to see that such posts need to exist. It's always shocking for me to see how people fight to treat the "symptoms" not the root of the "symptoms". You want to stop the abortions? Then go to deal with the reasons why women want/need the abortions in the first place. Is birth control readily available/affordable? Is the father taking the responsibility? Is it a seed of the rape? Was a teenager too ashamed to buy birth control/unable to ask parents for it? Was a teenager denied the sex education? Etc. Pro-life people have tons of energy and a great ambition. I just really wished they used it in a right manner.

Rei
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1 year ago (edited)

Absolutely agree. I am pro life but I would never judge a fellow woman in a stressful situation who chose abortion, but rather offer the (emotional) support she needs. Too often, the women do not get a proper and much needed support and I can't imagine how distraught many of them must be being pregnant on top of being in the middle of a vulnerable phase of life where they feel like they wouldn't be able to take care of (yet another) baby.

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sofacushionfort
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1 year ago

Any middle ground here or…no? Both sides must acknowledge this fact: there will always be abortions. Will the pro-choice agree that an abortion isn’t a very humane thing to do to a human being, even if it’s still a fetus? Will the anti-abortion side agree that the best way to reduce them is by sex-ed and birth control, and acceptance of human sexual activity in its actual wide range? Do that and I guarantee you that legal abortions will be far, far fewer than coat-hanger abortions.

Troux
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

"Will the pro-choice agree that an abortion isn’t a very humane thing to do to a human being, even if it’s still a fetus?" This has never, ever been a point of contention unless you believe far-right media. Pro-choice people don't go out and have abortions for fun. It's f*****g awful and exhausting and tragic and will likely haunt you for the rest of your life emotionally and no pro-choice person wants to go through an abortion themselves. However, they want to BE ALLOWED TO go through with it when it's the better long-term choice for themselves and the potential child, especially if it can happen before the sense of pain is developed (~20 weeks). These are women trying to look out for children by not knowingly bringing them into a bad situation. Maybe while we have over 100,000 children in the US currently up for adoption, we shouldn't be FORCING more into the country without a welcoming family? To quote D**k Wolf, "an unwanted child’s already got two strikes against it." [Ed.: BP censors are Richards]

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Burs
Community Member
1 year ago

This is brilliant. But for me there is one argument that winds them all. Foetus are not babies but it is irrelevant. The government does not have the right to ask you to donate your body to save another person, even if they will die. They cannot force you to donate blood or give part of your liver to save a citizen that will die. Every “pro life” person would be against that. Therefore the government cannot force women to risk their life and health and give their uterus to a fetus no matter if it’s or not a person.

Abhinc
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

and the government can't force you to give organs after you die. dead bodies have more rights than women !! and btw i think we need to stop calling them "pro life'. they are just anti freedom !!

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Ausrine Ciapaite
Community Member
1 year ago

I'm so sad to see that such posts need to exist. It's always shocking for me to see how people fight to treat the "symptoms" not the root of the "symptoms". You want to stop the abortions? Then go to deal with the reasons why women want/need the abortions in the first place. Is birth control readily available/affordable? Is the father taking the responsibility? Is it a seed of the rape? Was a teenager too ashamed to buy birth control/unable to ask parents for it? Was a teenager denied the sex education? Etc. Pro-life people have tons of energy and a great ambition. I just really wished they used it in a right manner.

Rei
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

Absolutely agree. I am pro life but I would never judge a fellow woman in a stressful situation who chose abortion, but rather offer the (emotional) support she needs. Too often, the women do not get a proper and much needed support and I can't imagine how distraught many of them must be being pregnant on top of being in the middle of a vulnerable phase of life where they feel like they wouldn't be able to take care of (yet another) baby.

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sofacushionfort
Community Member
1 year ago

Any middle ground here or…no? Both sides must acknowledge this fact: there will always be abortions. Will the pro-choice agree that an abortion isn’t a very humane thing to do to a human being, even if it’s still a fetus? Will the anti-abortion side agree that the best way to reduce them is by sex-ed and birth control, and acceptance of human sexual activity in its actual wide range? Do that and I guarantee you that legal abortions will be far, far fewer than coat-hanger abortions.

Troux
Community Member
1 year ago (edited)

"Will the pro-choice agree that an abortion isn’t a very humane thing to do to a human being, even if it’s still a fetus?" This has never, ever been a point of contention unless you believe far-right media. Pro-choice people don't go out and have abortions for fun. It's f*****g awful and exhausting and tragic and will likely haunt you for the rest of your life emotionally and no pro-choice person wants to go through an abortion themselves. However, they want to BE ALLOWED TO go through with it when it's the better long-term choice for themselves and the potential child, especially if it can happen before the sense of pain is developed (~20 weeks). These are women trying to look out for children by not knowingly bringing them into a bad situation. Maybe while we have over 100,000 children in the US currently up for adoption, we shouldn't be FORCING more into the country without a welcoming family? To quote D**k Wolf, "an unwanted child’s already got two strikes against it." [Ed.: BP censors are Richards]

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