Hey Pandas, AITA For Wanting Free Time After Work, Even Though I Live At My Parents’ Home?
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I (26F) have a younger bro (18M) and parents (both 47). My mum worked 2 years before she got pregnant with me.
During pregnancy and after, my mum always had excuses for not returning to work
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Whether I was small, my brother was small, there was a long break from working, or that she must take care of the home (4-room flat in the block, which for me takes 30 minutes of cleaning, for her 15).
My dad works for us all in heavy industry, at 80°C degrees with short breaks during shifts. She can’t even make a proper meal for the time when he comes back home. He comes back home at the same hour every day and sometimes she realizes ten minutes earlier that she may unfreeze something to eat.
Bro still attends high school and doesn’t work, also he doesn’t really pay attention to his grades to the point that he had to repeat two subjects during summer to pass. I did very well in high school and even went to the Olympics last year. From the time when I graduated, I was catching every job possible in our industrial area, as for women they are a little limited in variety. I wanted to take part of my costs of living from my dad. I wasn’t really happy with them, as usually they pay minimal wages on trash contracts. The longest job I had was a year and it was even without a contract.
When I had a chance, I moved to the capital city with my BF. I lived there for 3 years. I got a job with a normal type of contract
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If necessary I would find two types of additional jobs that pay right after it finishes (if necessary).
Due to inflation, problems with the house owner, and a new manager my family suggested coming back to my parents’ house. I agreed, but I see that almost nothing has changed
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I got a job with a trash contract again for 4 months, my mum goes to clean house 2 days for 5 hours. Ofc when she comes back she is very tired and expects me to do everything. I work full-time. I don’t have time to do things that I would like, like going to the gym for health reasons, meeting with my old friends, selling my clothes, investing in a graphic design course, paying attention to my diet, meeting with family, going for a date, or just reading a book for more than an hour because she finds me something to do or she wants to talk about something stupid that she watches on TV.
She wakes up around 7/8 am, and until 1 pm she watches series or does her nails, dusts, and vacuums. Then she “prepares” something frozen for lunch or dinner and she is already tired. If I’m at home in the morning, she expects me to do everything. But if something happens, she reminds me that the flat is hers, and I don’t have the right to say anything. Maybe Dad treats her like a princess, but after my work, I would also like to do things that can help me in the future and not do her standard housing care.
While living with BF and later, after the breakup, I was also cleaning, doing shopping, and cooking and it never made me have pretensions to anybody that I needed to do something around me.
She also tries to tell me how to take care of my health, not seeing that her lack of interest from the beginning in nutrition gave me problems that I had from the youngest years, later also mental.
Am I stupid or they are strange? Need other points of view.
P.S. I pay them part of the living cost. Also, I buy most of the food I eat with my money.
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Share on FacebookIf your mom is that tired all the time, maybe she's got an underlying health problem? Has she been to a doctor? But I don't think you're TA, you really just need to find a way to get away from them and build your own life. They should be able to take care of themselves without your constant help.
Was it just me or did op come across as resentful about their perception the mom was failing as a house wife?
That's what I got too. It seems like two very different lifestyles not in harmony. OP needs to just get better jobs and move out.
Load More Replies...1/2 A lot of parents see their kids as live-in servants. I had chores from when I was too young to manage them (literally the doctor told my parents to lay off). I couldn't socialize in high school or do extracurriculars because I had to watch my parents' friends' kids so the adults could have fun. I wanted to work at summer camps; nope, had to stay home and find a c**p job because Mum needed me to clean house (she liked things vacuumed daily). I lived at home and worked my way through uni, but every moment I was at home I had to be participating in "family life," which was most often supporting my parents' socialisation. I took to just not coming home until late most nights. I mean, I was fine to do a share of the housekeeping, but my dad would expect me to skip a party or put aside writing an essay to help him with paperwork for his job. He could do it, but I was just "so much faster." I had to skip classes to set up for their parties.
2/2. OP is contributing financially to the household. There should be a set schedule of chores each week, one commensurate with being one-fourth of the household and a financial contributor. They shouldn't have to just be there at Mum's beck and call whenever the mother wants. I think that's what they're resenting is the Mum demanding that they linger at home to do whatever pops into her head rather than being allowed to go out to be productive. There's no schedule to it, no way for OP to work out time to build their own life and find opportunities for their own future. Mum just sees a live-in servant/companion, not a young adult working toward success. Kids and young adults deserve a chance to build their own lives. The Mum is hindering OP from doing that. She doesn't want her kids to grow up to be independent. She just wants them under her thumb. Very unhealthy.
Load More Replies...Maybe your mother has something going on that has her tire so easily or maybe she is hiding depression but even if she doesn't have an underlying cause it's her life, her house and she can do what she wants or doesn't want to do. You know that living on your own you have to clean, go grocery shopping, pay your bills, do your laundry, cook, run errands, and so much more? As well as take good care of yourself, But, you are unhappy so that means you find a better paying job or two and find a new place. As for not being able to do things you want to do it is about scheduling properly. I was an actress long ago and I had to fit in jobs, all the regular stuff, booking, auditions, classes, more work to pay bills on and on. You can do this. Go out on your own. It will save your relationship with your mom.
I might be projecting here, but it sounds like you are feeling some resentment about a double standard? Like you're expected to work a ton, keep good grades, be healthy, etc., while your mom has a lot more free time and can enjoy herself more? And then she wants to lecture you about what you eat and how you spend your time, but you can't ever critique her? If that's what you're feeling, I definitely relate to it. The only thing that has saved me is learning to focus on myself and my own goals. Instead of trying to be the perfect daughter who pleases my parents, I've needed to pursue my own dreams and set boundaries with my parents. I try not to work too many hours, unless it's for something I really want. I don't allow comments on my diet or appearance from my parents. Over time, my relationship with my mom has improved a lot and I don't resent her nearly as much because I'm making the life I want for myself.
LOL. This isn't "AITA For Wanting Free Time After Work", this is "I think my mom is lazy and stupid and I hate that she talks to me about the stupid things she watches on TV". Also, are you paying any rent to live back at home? Not "part of the living cost" - actual rent to live there. You're an adult; your parents are no longer obligated to house you. It's also YOUR HOME where you live right now, so I would think that a responsible adult would want to contribute to keeping their domicile clean, regardless of whether it's their own apartment or their parents' house. You could also just, you know, stand up to your mom and leave to do all of these things you want to do with your free time. Set boundaries. You're an adult. Also, MANY adults who live with their parents work full-time and still manage to find time to do their own things. Source: myself and my older sister.
The mum is demanding their adult child linger in the house to be at her beck and call. She won't just schedule weekly chores; she wants her child there to follow her whims whenever possible. And it can be very difficult to set boundaries with this sort of parent. They are terribly manipulative. I don't see where OP is unwilling to do any chores; they just want a list so they can work out their own schedule rather than have to follow Mum's daily whims. This is a time where they need to be building a future, and the Mum is deliberately hindering that.
Load More Replies...Talk with your father. What does he thinks of the situation? Whatever is the answer, your parents household shouldn't be your priority. Try getting a better job, even/especially if you have to move out again for it. Nta
I’m sure you would move out if you could, so I’m not addressing that option. Something @Insomniac said gave me an idea. Sit down for an official meeting with your parents about their expectations for you and let them know what frustrates you. Work out a schedule where you agree to do certain chores or spend a certain amount of time each day/week doing chores or helping your mom & dad with stuff. Having your dad there may help temper expectations or at least add another perspective. Write relevant information down! There can be rules like “no springing things on me last minute,” and “cleaning up after yourself does _not_ count towards chore time.” Have the schedule written down and mark off time spent. After a few weeks/couple of months the schedule can be revisited and tweaked. If there is an actual emergency (ex leaking pipe), just help out, even if not scheduled, and that probably shouldn’t count towards your time.
Ex: you will spend ~2 hrs a week doing chores/projects for your parents + 4 hrs a month for miscellaneous projects/chores/bigger projects. Weekly time can be divided up into ~20 min a day, or ~1 hr 2x a week, etc. Or you do all the sweeping and mopping (for example) + 4 hrs a month for miscellaneous. The 4 hrs can be distributed through the month (~1hr/week) or used for a bigger weekend project, or whatever. Any big/multi-hour project needs to be scheduled sufficiently ahead of time.
Load More Replies...If your mom is that tired all the time, maybe she's got an underlying health problem? Has she been to a doctor? But I don't think you're TA, you really just need to find a way to get away from them and build your own life. They should be able to take care of themselves without your constant help.
Was it just me or did op come across as resentful about their perception the mom was failing as a house wife?
That's what I got too. It seems like two very different lifestyles not in harmony. OP needs to just get better jobs and move out.
Load More Replies...1/2 A lot of parents see their kids as live-in servants. I had chores from when I was too young to manage them (literally the doctor told my parents to lay off). I couldn't socialize in high school or do extracurriculars because I had to watch my parents' friends' kids so the adults could have fun. I wanted to work at summer camps; nope, had to stay home and find a c**p job because Mum needed me to clean house (she liked things vacuumed daily). I lived at home and worked my way through uni, but every moment I was at home I had to be participating in "family life," which was most often supporting my parents' socialisation. I took to just not coming home until late most nights. I mean, I was fine to do a share of the housekeeping, but my dad would expect me to skip a party or put aside writing an essay to help him with paperwork for his job. He could do it, but I was just "so much faster." I had to skip classes to set up for their parties.
2/2. OP is contributing financially to the household. There should be a set schedule of chores each week, one commensurate with being one-fourth of the household and a financial contributor. They shouldn't have to just be there at Mum's beck and call whenever the mother wants. I think that's what they're resenting is the Mum demanding that they linger at home to do whatever pops into her head rather than being allowed to go out to be productive. There's no schedule to it, no way for OP to work out time to build their own life and find opportunities for their own future. Mum just sees a live-in servant/companion, not a young adult working toward success. Kids and young adults deserve a chance to build their own lives. The Mum is hindering OP from doing that. She doesn't want her kids to grow up to be independent. She just wants them under her thumb. Very unhealthy.
Load More Replies...Maybe your mother has something going on that has her tire so easily or maybe she is hiding depression but even if she doesn't have an underlying cause it's her life, her house and she can do what she wants or doesn't want to do. You know that living on your own you have to clean, go grocery shopping, pay your bills, do your laundry, cook, run errands, and so much more? As well as take good care of yourself, But, you are unhappy so that means you find a better paying job or two and find a new place. As for not being able to do things you want to do it is about scheduling properly. I was an actress long ago and I had to fit in jobs, all the regular stuff, booking, auditions, classes, more work to pay bills on and on. You can do this. Go out on your own. It will save your relationship with your mom.
I might be projecting here, but it sounds like you are feeling some resentment about a double standard? Like you're expected to work a ton, keep good grades, be healthy, etc., while your mom has a lot more free time and can enjoy herself more? And then she wants to lecture you about what you eat and how you spend your time, but you can't ever critique her? If that's what you're feeling, I definitely relate to it. The only thing that has saved me is learning to focus on myself and my own goals. Instead of trying to be the perfect daughter who pleases my parents, I've needed to pursue my own dreams and set boundaries with my parents. I try not to work too many hours, unless it's for something I really want. I don't allow comments on my diet or appearance from my parents. Over time, my relationship with my mom has improved a lot and I don't resent her nearly as much because I'm making the life I want for myself.
LOL. This isn't "AITA For Wanting Free Time After Work", this is "I think my mom is lazy and stupid and I hate that she talks to me about the stupid things she watches on TV". Also, are you paying any rent to live back at home? Not "part of the living cost" - actual rent to live there. You're an adult; your parents are no longer obligated to house you. It's also YOUR HOME where you live right now, so I would think that a responsible adult would want to contribute to keeping their domicile clean, regardless of whether it's their own apartment or their parents' house. You could also just, you know, stand up to your mom and leave to do all of these things you want to do with your free time. Set boundaries. You're an adult. Also, MANY adults who live with their parents work full-time and still manage to find time to do their own things. Source: myself and my older sister.
The mum is demanding their adult child linger in the house to be at her beck and call. She won't just schedule weekly chores; she wants her child there to follow her whims whenever possible. And it can be very difficult to set boundaries with this sort of parent. They are terribly manipulative. I don't see where OP is unwilling to do any chores; they just want a list so they can work out their own schedule rather than have to follow Mum's daily whims. This is a time where they need to be building a future, and the Mum is deliberately hindering that.
Load More Replies...Talk with your father. What does he thinks of the situation? Whatever is the answer, your parents household shouldn't be your priority. Try getting a better job, even/especially if you have to move out again for it. Nta
I’m sure you would move out if you could, so I’m not addressing that option. Something @Insomniac said gave me an idea. Sit down for an official meeting with your parents about their expectations for you and let them know what frustrates you. Work out a schedule where you agree to do certain chores or spend a certain amount of time each day/week doing chores or helping your mom & dad with stuff. Having your dad there may help temper expectations or at least add another perspective. Write relevant information down! There can be rules like “no springing things on me last minute,” and “cleaning up after yourself does _not_ count towards chore time.” Have the schedule written down and mark off time spent. After a few weeks/couple of months the schedule can be revisited and tweaked. If there is an actual emergency (ex leaking pipe), just help out, even if not scheduled, and that probably shouldn’t count towards your time.
Ex: you will spend ~2 hrs a week doing chores/projects for your parents + 4 hrs a month for miscellaneous projects/chores/bigger projects. Weekly time can be divided up into ~20 min a day, or ~1 hr 2x a week, etc. Or you do all the sweeping and mopping (for example) + 4 hrs a month for miscellaneous. The 4 hrs can be distributed through the month (~1hr/week) or used for a bigger weekend project, or whatever. Any big/multi-hour project needs to be scheduled sufficiently ahead of time.
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