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Hey Pandas, AITA For Setting Boundaries On My Kids’ Time With My In-Laws?
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    I (53F) have four children. My BIL just asked to collect them and take them to a family lunch with his mum and cousins. I refused. AITA?

    My DH passed away two and a half years ago after a two-year battle with cancer. During that time, family tensions emerged, and things were not good with my MIL, BIL, (former) SIL, and the cousins.

    As soon as we told them about DH’s diagnosis, they stopped inviting us to family events

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    Literally, immediately after we shared the news, BIL and SIL (who live a four-hour drive away) came up for the weekend, claiming they wanted to support DH. However, they then asked to take one of our kids to play with their child at MIL’s house and told us not to pick her up until late afternoon. When we did, we found BIL, SIL, MIL, and the cousins finishing off a family lunch and pool party—something we had always done together.

    My husband was hurt, but being non-confrontational, he just asked me to take him home. Later that night, I privately spoke to the family, explaining that DH had limited time left and needed his family. I asked that we be included in future gatherings. They took it badly, accused me of causing drama, stopped speaking to us, and proceeded to post pictures of family gatherings we weren’t invited to on social media.

    After a couple of months of no contact, they resumed speaking to us—but only on the day of DH’s first surgery

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    However, they maintained their exclusionary behavior throughout his illness, leaving us out of birthdays, Christmases, and other events. They only visited him on his sickbed a few times. At his funeral, they attended but left abruptly without speaking to me or the kids. That same afternoon, they blocked me on social media. When I asked why, they told me I was no longer considered part of the family.

    Now, they’ve decided they want to see the children. BIL asked to take them to a family lunch but said I am not welcome.

    After losing their dad, it would be nice for my kids to have a wider sense of family

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    My own family lives a plane ride away, and we only see them once or twice a year. But I’m torn because my in-laws continue to hold this grudge against me and have refused all my attempts to talk to them.

    BIL’s daughter (an only child) is the same age as my middle two kids, and he is eager for them to see each other when he’s in town. This aligns with how I was raised—valuing family and sticking together—which is what I want for my kids. But excluding me feels cruel. I don’t want my kids caught in the middle of family drama, and I struggle with the idea of them spending time with people who abandoned us. Turning their backs on DH and the kids while continuing to ostracize me seems unnecessarily harsh, especially since all I ever wanted was family unity during DH’s illness.

    The kids aren’t keen on going without me. But MIL isn’t getting any younger, and I recognize that she struggled to cope with her son’s illness, is overwhelmed with grief, and may be scapegoating me. She has started telling people how lonely she is. Her nephew, whom she turned to during DH’s illness, recently passed away, and I’ve heard that his wife (whom MIL relies on) is planning to return to her native Thailand.

    I encourage my middle two kids to visit their Gran during their free time on school days (their school is only a five-minute walk from her house)

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    But for the youngest (8, still in primary school) and the oldest (18, now at university) to see her, I would need to drive them—a 60-minute round trip—where I am not welcome to stay. I did this once, a few months after DH’s passing, but when I greeted MIL, she turned her back on me and walked away. I ended up going to the local shops and returning after an hour to pick up the kids.

    On our first Christmas without DH, one of the cousins messaged me on Christmas Eve, asking to collect all four kids to celebrate the traditional family Christmas at MIL’s house—without me

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    I was shocked that they would try to leave me alone on our first Christmas without DH. The kids refused to go, saying they wanted to stay with me. My eldest messaged the family, asking why they were behaving this way, and in response, they blocked her too.

    I see BIL once or twice a year when he brings his daughter to our house to visit the kids, but the whole situation feels upsetting and baffling. Each time, it just reminds me that I’ve been cast out of the family, and it feels like BIL is merely using me for childcare.

    So, AITA for refusing this invitation for my kids, or should I be encouraging them to see the family without me?

    Expert’s Advice

    This is a really painful situation, and I can see why you’re struggling. You want your kids to have family, but these people have treated you (and them) poorly.

    A few key things to consider:

    • Your kids’ feelings matter most. If they don’t want to go without you, forcing them might make them feel abandoned or confused.
    • You deserve respect. It’s not okay for them to cut you out while expecting access to your kids. Healthy relationships involve mutual respect.
    • Boundaries are important. You can let your kids see their relatives if they want to, but only in ways that feel safe and fair—maybe neutral locations or supervised visits.
    • Trust actions, not just words. If they truly want to rebuild relationships, they should also be willing to treat you with kindness.

    Ultimately, you’re not wrong for protecting your kids from a toxic dynamic. You’re being a good mom by putting their emotional well-being first.

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    ZombieMommy
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Time to cut them off and move closer to your family. The abandoned their own child/sibling while he was dying and told you that you're no longer family. Nope, they're done.

    V
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, no excuse for abandoning her son. When my mother had cancer my grandfather was very feeble, and my grandmother was a truly horrible person, yet they still managed to support my mother after every round of chemo.

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    Michelle C
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Normally, I don’t comment on this kind of thing, but I’d been through something similar growing up. After my parents divorced when I was not yet a preteen, certain members of my dad’s side of the family treated Mom horribly even though they knew the truth about what happened between them. My sibling and I made a point of trying to minimize contact with them as much as possible, and Mom simply chose to recognize our autonomy in that respect. OP is doing the right thing by allowing her kids to choose whether they would like to spend time with their paternal family and respecting whether they say yes or no. It seems they have said they would rather not spend time with their paternal family and OP recognizing their boundaries is perfectly normal and selfless!

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, it's really reassuring hearing your perspective, having experienced similar as a child. Yes, my kids are not impressed by the family's behaviour, and they're really not keen to see them all without me. The youngest barely knows them, as she was only three and a half when her dad was diagnosed, and absolutely, I think it's really important to respect my kids' opinions. I bet your mum really appreciated your love and loyalty in the face of harsh treatment during those upsetting times.

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    Janelle Collard
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    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If OP isn't "family" to those a**hats, then neither are her kids. The kids only link to those people died, so OP should follow what her kids want. If they want to see the out-laws, fine. If they won't go without OP, also fine. If I were OP, I'd block those horrible people on everything so they'd have to resort to a Singing Telegram or a CandyGram to get thru to me. 😁 I'd also make any social media private so none of the outlaws can find out what OP's fam is doing. Those people s**k.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, that's good advice. I'm not usually one for blocking people - hence me hanging in there for so long. Though honestly, I'm questioning why i did,, now! On the infrequent occasions when they pop up, it's so horrible and upsetting. I really am thinking it would be better to just never hear from them again. I'm going to do it!

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    Caffeine72
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people are completely insane. You are SO NTA, but they are horrible. Your children have a good idea of who they are already. They watched them abandon their father, whom these people supposedly loved, the second he got sick and treat you like a total pariah for just existing. Then they treated your daughter the same way for not pretending that you don't exist?. They have no discernible ethics or morals and shouldn't be allowed to try to have an influence on your kids, who sound like they are decent kids from loving parents. If their grandmother is lonely, she knows exactly why she is and she is reaping what she has sown. Wanting to take them on Christmas from you while you're all grieving and leave you alone? They're monsters! No wonder your kids would rather stay with you!

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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you. Yes they are good kids. The cousin was critical of them refusing to go, and of my eldest messaging them, which apparently sa upset them all. But it was such a simple, polite message, asking them to explain themselves. My daughter was only 16 at the time, but I told the cousin that they could all learn something about mature, open , honest communication from her, and how proud I was of her.

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    Vinnie
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP, I'm outraged. It's mind-boggling that ALL of the family ran away like teenage meanies (as if they wouldn't suffer similar if they were seriously sick or injured). Your children, are far more mature than your in-laws, so I'm glad you're allowing them to decide if they want to visit hostile relatives. I can imagine your husband saw that kindness in you and that was a big part of what he loved about you.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a lovely comment, thank you. I find it all outrageous and mind boggling too, it seems so uneccessary. I'm just grateful that the children are so level headed, kind and loving, because yes, that's absolutely how my husband and I have brought them up, and I know he'd be really proud of them right now.

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    D Gibson
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. The "mean" family have treated this woman horribly. They turned their back on a dying man. To me that means they are not family. (Block all communication). Protecting herself and her beloved kids are all that matters. Actions speak louder than words. Good riddance to bad people.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you. I think I needed to hear people telling me it's ok to block them. I've actually just done that now, so they can't surprise me with any further upsetting messages. It wasn't doing me or the kids any good. I feel like a weight has been lifted!

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    Ru Bee
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people are simple terrible human beings it may be a lot of work but I'd cut them all off and move closer to my family. They sound absolutely horrendous.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, writing it down and thinking about it objectively, and reading people's responses, I'm wondering why I've tried so hard for so long to mend bridges with them. They've always been pretty hard work, and MIL never thought I was good enough for her son, so I shouldn't really be surprised. I did speak to the kids about moving closer to my side of the family, but it seemed like a big disruption for them, to change their home & their schools & friends etc immediately after losing their dad. Now it's been a few years, I think I'll talk to them all again. I think that making a few changes might help us move forward in our lives. In the meantime, we're planning a summer get together with my mum and brother and we're all really looking forward to it. Thank you for your advice

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    James016
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They couldn't give a s**t before, why now since according to them you are no longer family. Don't let them anywhere near you or your kids. Sorry for your loss. The fact they abruptly left their own immediate family member's funeral speaks volumes.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was trying to make allowances for them, it's all so sad - MIL losing her child, BIL losing his brother, plus his wife divorced him at the same time. But I think you're right, I think they just don't give a s☆☆t. I'm beginning to think that BIL just wants his child entertained, and MIL wants her grandchildren now that her family is getting smaller, with people dying and moving away. Thank you for your condolences. And yes, the abrupt departure from the funeral was really disrespectful and cold.

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    Nice Beast Ludo
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Regardless of the situation, especially if you are being excluded, if they want to see your children so badly then they should be going through you alone and including you. If it's a kids thing only and they have been invited, they should be the ones picking up and dropping off. That is just common courtesy of playdates between people that aren't related let alone family. If they want to see the kids they need to mend the relationship with you and communicate everything through you. I imagine they would try to woo the kids with outings and gifts and talk s**t to them about you. They seem like good kids that know what's going on and have made their own decisions about these toxic inlaws

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're all adults, apart from BIL's 13 year old daughter. Unfortunately this situation is affecting her too. Previously, when they'd make the trip to visit MIL, me and DH would go over each day, for lunch, a swim, a bike ride etc, so she was used to having 4 other kids to hang out with. Now the poor child just has a bunch of adult dinner parties with no company her own age, and I think this was BIL's attempt at relieving her boredom. I like to see the kids getting together, they're the innocent parties in all of this, and I've invited BIL to bring her round to us, or a trip out to the Waterpark etc.. now I'm not welcome there. I thought that was working OK, and I feel sorry for her, but I keep reminding myself that it's not my doing. I'd definitely be concerned about them all bad mouthing me in front of my kids. MIL used to try to talk s☆☆t to us about SIL before their divorce. It's really not the kind of environment I want for them. And thank you, yeah, they're good kids!

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    Gabby M
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but try as I might after a long period of trying to decipher the acronyms DH, DS D-what have you. can someone educate my old a$$ as to wtf these mean?

    Abby Reynolds
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear Husband, Dear Son, Dear Daughter, etc, I believe. It's shorthand, I guess. I find it silly. Like your phone/computer won't autocomplete those words for you if you don't want to take the time to type them out.

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    Bonesko
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry for your loss. Things are hard enough losing your husband, your children's father without this bulls**t your in-laws are putting you through. You are most definitely NTA! Your in-laws sound like awful people. If they don't like you, for whatever nonsense, fine. I get they want to see your kids, but to ban you from going with them! That's insane. It's not fair that the children on both sides can't see each other because your petty in-laws, but unless they are willing to bury the hatchet and be civil you shouldn't have contact with them. I hope the best for your family.

    Bahama Mama
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm just trying to figure out if this is even real 🤔! I just have a hard time believing that people would do this for no reason at all. Like why would they not give one ounce of care that their son/brother was dieing and then turn around and be horribly mean to his wife for no apparent reason? Like why, there has to be a reason?

    Chickie
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Using children as pawns is not cool. As someone who was used as a p**n as a child, I can now say that I wish my family members could have been adults and talked it out without getting my brother and me involved. Yeah...not cool.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally agree. It sounds like you had a rough time, I'm sorry to hear that. I am so heartbroken for my kids losing their dad. He was amazing and is a huge loss. I'm doing my best to give them the best life I can, without him. I'd hoped that his family could be a part of that, but they've just made an awful situation even more difficult and unpleasant.

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    Nuls Brawl
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    5 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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    Jamie Stevens
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA - But gently, your first mistake was ever allowing them to take any of your children without either you or DH (when he was alive). Time for you and your children to cut them out! Just because MIL is getting on in years/ running out of time doesn't mean she and her family get to treat you or your children this way. Think about what you're exposing your kids to. About the message that they're possibly getting here is that no matter how horribly they treat you, it's okay because they're family. Do NOT allow this to continue. Block them from all contact with you AND your children - well at least you're minor child, because not really up to you rather not your 18-year-old has a relationship with the toxic family members.

    Ivona
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    10 months ago

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    ZombieMommy
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Time to cut them off and move closer to your family. The abandoned their own child/sibling while he was dying and told you that you're no longer family. Nope, they're done.

    V
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, no excuse for abandoning her son. When my mother had cancer my grandfather was very feeble, and my grandmother was a truly horrible person, yet they still managed to support my mother after every round of chemo.

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    Michelle C
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Normally, I don’t comment on this kind of thing, but I’d been through something similar growing up. After my parents divorced when I was not yet a preteen, certain members of my dad’s side of the family treated Mom horribly even though they knew the truth about what happened between them. My sibling and I made a point of trying to minimize contact with them as much as possible, and Mom simply chose to recognize our autonomy in that respect. OP is doing the right thing by allowing her kids to choose whether they would like to spend time with their paternal family and respecting whether they say yes or no. It seems they have said they would rather not spend time with their paternal family and OP recognizing their boundaries is perfectly normal and selfless!

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, it's really reassuring hearing your perspective, having experienced similar as a child. Yes, my kids are not impressed by the family's behaviour, and they're really not keen to see them all without me. The youngest barely knows them, as she was only three and a half when her dad was diagnosed, and absolutely, I think it's really important to respect my kids' opinions. I bet your mum really appreciated your love and loyalty in the face of harsh treatment during those upsetting times.

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    Janelle Collard
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    10 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If OP isn't "family" to those a**hats, then neither are her kids. The kids only link to those people died, so OP should follow what her kids want. If they want to see the out-laws, fine. If they won't go without OP, also fine. If I were OP, I'd block those horrible people on everything so they'd have to resort to a Singing Telegram or a CandyGram to get thru to me. 😁 I'd also make any social media private so none of the outlaws can find out what OP's fam is doing. Those people s**k.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you, that's good advice. I'm not usually one for blocking people - hence me hanging in there for so long. Though honestly, I'm questioning why i did,, now! On the infrequent occasions when they pop up, it's so horrible and upsetting. I really am thinking it would be better to just never hear from them again. I'm going to do it!

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    Caffeine72
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people are completely insane. You are SO NTA, but they are horrible. Your children have a good idea of who they are already. They watched them abandon their father, whom these people supposedly loved, the second he got sick and treat you like a total pariah for just existing. Then they treated your daughter the same way for not pretending that you don't exist?. They have no discernible ethics or morals and shouldn't be allowed to try to have an influence on your kids, who sound like they are decent kids from loving parents. If their grandmother is lonely, she knows exactly why she is and she is reaping what she has sown. Wanting to take them on Christmas from you while you're all grieving and leave you alone? They're monsters! No wonder your kids would rather stay with you!

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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you. Yes they are good kids. The cousin was critical of them refusing to go, and of my eldest messaging them, which apparently sa upset them all. But it was such a simple, polite message, asking them to explain themselves. My daughter was only 16 at the time, but I told the cousin that they could all learn something about mature, open , honest communication from her, and how proud I was of her.

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    Vinnie
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP, I'm outraged. It's mind-boggling that ALL of the family ran away like teenage meanies (as if they wouldn't suffer similar if they were seriously sick or injured). Your children, are far more mature than your in-laws, so I'm glad you're allowing them to decide if they want to visit hostile relatives. I can imagine your husband saw that kindness in you and that was a big part of what he loved about you.

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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a lovely comment, thank you. I find it all outrageous and mind boggling too, it seems so uneccessary. I'm just grateful that the children are so level headed, kind and loving, because yes, that's absolutely how my husband and I have brought them up, and I know he'd be really proud of them right now.

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    D Gibson
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. The "mean" family have treated this woman horribly. They turned their back on a dying man. To me that means they are not family. (Block all communication). Protecting herself and her beloved kids are all that matters. Actions speak louder than words. Good riddance to bad people.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you. I think I needed to hear people telling me it's ok to block them. I've actually just done that now, so they can't surprise me with any further upsetting messages. It wasn't doing me or the kids any good. I feel like a weight has been lifted!

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    Ru Bee
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people are simple terrible human beings it may be a lot of work but I'd cut them all off and move closer to my family. They sound absolutely horrendous.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, writing it down and thinking about it objectively, and reading people's responses, I'm wondering why I've tried so hard for so long to mend bridges with them. They've always been pretty hard work, and MIL never thought I was good enough for her son, so I shouldn't really be surprised. I did speak to the kids about moving closer to my side of the family, but it seemed like a big disruption for them, to change their home & their schools & friends etc immediately after losing their dad. Now it's been a few years, I think I'll talk to them all again. I think that making a few changes might help us move forward in our lives. In the meantime, we're planning a summer get together with my mum and brother and we're all really looking forward to it. Thank you for your advice

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    James016
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They couldn't give a s**t before, why now since according to them you are no longer family. Don't let them anywhere near you or your kids. Sorry for your loss. The fact they abruptly left their own immediate family member's funeral speaks volumes.

    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was trying to make allowances for them, it's all so sad - MIL losing her child, BIL losing his brother, plus his wife divorced him at the same time. But I think you're right, I think they just don't give a s☆☆t. I'm beginning to think that BIL just wants his child entertained, and MIL wants her grandchildren now that her family is getting smaller, with people dying and moving away. Thank you for your condolences. And yes, the abrupt departure from the funeral was really disrespectful and cold.

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    Nice Beast Ludo
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Regardless of the situation, especially if you are being excluded, if they want to see your children so badly then they should be going through you alone and including you. If it's a kids thing only and they have been invited, they should be the ones picking up and dropping off. That is just common courtesy of playdates between people that aren't related let alone family. If they want to see the kids they need to mend the relationship with you and communicate everything through you. I imagine they would try to woo the kids with outings and gifts and talk s**t to them about you. They seem like good kids that know what's going on and have made their own decisions about these toxic inlaws

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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They're all adults, apart from BIL's 13 year old daughter. Unfortunately this situation is affecting her too. Previously, when they'd make the trip to visit MIL, me and DH would go over each day, for lunch, a swim, a bike ride etc, so she was used to having 4 other kids to hang out with. Now the poor child just has a bunch of adult dinner parties with no company her own age, and I think this was BIL's attempt at relieving her boredom. I like to see the kids getting together, they're the innocent parties in all of this, and I've invited BIL to bring her round to us, or a trip out to the Waterpark etc.. now I'm not welcome there. I thought that was working OK, and I feel sorry for her, but I keep reminding myself that it's not my doing. I'd definitely be concerned about them all bad mouthing me in front of my kids. MIL used to try to talk s☆☆t to us about SIL before their divorce. It's really not the kind of environment I want for them. And thank you, yeah, they're good kids!

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    Gabby M
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry but try as I might after a long period of trying to decipher the acronyms DH, DS D-what have you. can someone educate my old a$$ as to wtf these mean?

    Abby Reynolds
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear Husband, Dear Son, Dear Daughter, etc, I believe. It's shorthand, I guess. I find it silly. Like your phone/computer won't autocomplete those words for you if you don't want to take the time to type them out.

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    Bonesko
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry for your loss. Things are hard enough losing your husband, your children's father without this bulls**t your in-laws are putting you through. You are most definitely NTA! Your in-laws sound like awful people. If they don't like you, for whatever nonsense, fine. I get they want to see your kids, but to ban you from going with them! That's insane. It's not fair that the children on both sides can't see each other because your petty in-laws, but unless they are willing to bury the hatchet and be civil you shouldn't have contact with them. I hope the best for your family.

    Bahama Mama
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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm just trying to figure out if this is even real 🤔! I just have a hard time believing that people would do this for no reason at all. Like why would they not give one ounce of care that their son/brother was dieing and then turn around and be horribly mean to his wife for no apparent reason? Like why, there has to be a reason?

    Chickie
    Community Member
    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Using children as pawns is not cool. As someone who was used as a p**n as a child, I can now say that I wish my family members could have been adults and talked it out without getting my brother and me involved. Yeah...not cool.

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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally agree. It sounds like you had a rough time, I'm sorry to hear that. I am so heartbroken for my kids losing their dad. He was amazing and is a huge loss. I'm doing my best to give them the best life I can, without him. I'd hoped that his family could be a part of that, but they've just made an awful situation even more difficult and unpleasant.

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    Nuls Brawl
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    5 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Enough heavy talk — now let’s take a break and play some Nulls Brawl. Leave the stress behind and have some fun! https://nulsbrawl.tr/

    Jamie Stevens
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA - But gently, your first mistake was ever allowing them to take any of your children without either you or DH (when he was alive). Time for you and your children to cut them out! Just because MIL is getting on in years/ running out of time doesn't mean she and her family get to treat you or your children this way. Think about what you're exposing your kids to. About the message that they're possibly getting here is that no matter how horribly they treat you, it's okay because they're family. Do NOT allow this to continue. Block them from all contact with you AND your children - well at least you're minor child, because not really up to you rather not your 18-year-old has a relationship with the toxic family members.

    Ivona
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    10 months ago

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