Hey Pandas, AITA For Getting Upset At My Friend Who Didn’t Bring A Birthday Present?
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I had my birthday party at a movie theater, where tickets, snacks, lunch, and drinks were all paid for
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It was quite expensive and welled up to around $250 or more dollars for a party consisting of 8 people including me.
My friends arrive at the given time and when (let’s call her Sand) Sand gets here I notice she is empty-handed
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All the other party guests had brought some sort of gift, which I am very grateful for, so I was a bit confused when she didn’t have anything. Sand is not broke or poor and I know she can afford some sort of token of appreciation.
This was on a Sunday so I thought “Oh, maybe she just forgot the gift at home and will bring it to me on Monday, no big deal”
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She gets out of her car and comes up to the group where all of us are waiting before the movie starts and says a quick “happy birthday” to me and just stands there.
Anyway, the party was fun, and fast-forward to school on Monday. Still nothing from her. At lunch, I decided to try something. I thank a friend for a gift in front of her and I say to Sand, “Thanks for coming! I really liked your gift… wait, what did you bring again? I can’t remember for some reason… *Puts on my best thinking face*” then Sand has the nerve to look at me with a smile and say in an embarrassed tone, “Oh, I didn’t bring anything, sorry *Insert my name*.”
At this point, I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat but idk what to do. AITA?
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Share on FacebookSorry Ryna but yeah. It's one thing to feel a bit disappointed/puzzled that your friend didn't think to bring a gift, but friends don't owe tribute - and the passive-aggressive fake question after is definitely what BP likes to call a [jerk] move. A transactional attitude to friendship ain't great and now you've communicated to your friend that she owed you payment for being included. I'd say you have a bit of thinking to do about that.
Are you 12? If you're an adult, then does it really matter that your friend didn't get you a birthday gift? If you are an adult and you consider Sand a good friend, you shouldn't "need" or even expect a birthday gift. Also, what does it matter that Sand is not "broke or poor" and could "afford SOME sort of token of appreciation"? A token of appreciation of what - the royal blessing of your friendship?
Yeah, she might be twelve; she mentioned lunch at school. I can’t remember whether kids REQUIRED presents at every birthday when I was a kid, but I *do* remember that I was told not to EXPECT presents. I always got ‘em until I grew up, and now, of course, they’re optional, but I get the impression that yes, this kid expects a present. From everyone.
Load More Replies...I really wonder how this post got any upvotes at all. Yes, you are the AH. This really clinches it: "At this point, I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat" Because that's what you are. A spoiled brat.
Just noticed that I could downvote this post thanks to this comment! Ryna, you are acting like a spoiled brat. No question about it. Apparently a present is more important to you than a friendship. When you are older and wondering why you have lost friendships, this is the moment to think on. No one wants to be friends with someone who is greedy and purposefully tries to make them feel bad. Hopefully you can learn from your mistake and apologize to your friend for the passive aggressive/downright rude remark. And your comment "I'm a nice person"? People who are ACTUALLY nice never have to announce it to others. They just are nice and care about others feelings. They definitely would care more about having fun with their friends instead of just wanting a present.
Load More Replies...Yeah, you are, actually, and I hope the negativity and down votes speak to that for you. It's sad the first thing you noticed was your friend was empty handed, not being excited that she came and accepted your invite. Inviting someone to a birthday party does not obligate them to give you a damn thing. You don't invite friends for their gifts, you invite them for their company and to spend a special day with you. Then you had the nerve to pull that little backhanded passive aggressive BS talking to another friend about their gift, not even realizing you're insulting THAT friend by have to ask what they gave you, as if it wasn't good or memorable enough to remember. "Sand's" finances are also none of your damn business. I don't care if she's a millionaire, she didn't owe you anything. "The next day at school" makes me think this is teenage drama so hopefully some of the things you'll read in the comments help you understand that no, how you're acting and feel aren't cool.
But never too late to grow some self awareness and get your sh1t together. Hopefully the responses moves this agenda forward
Load More Replies...Yeah you're TA, you shouldn't expect gifts. It's nice to be given one but you don't deserve one. Sounds like you only had an expensive "party" to get gifts. Some years my own family don't get me anything except maybe a card. However, I'm an adult and realise I won't always get gifts. Seems to me you've got some growing up and maturing to do
You aren't entitled to gifts. I have only rarely given birthday presents to adult friends. Usually you go out to eat or for pints, if it's a milestone birthday maybe do something bigger, but apart from food and drink, no one in my friends groups in N America and the UK does gifts for friends regularly.
Sure, it is strange for someone to not bring a gift, especially if it's the convention and everyone else has brought one. I understand how that would feel a little odd. However you are in no way entitled to a gift. It's a gift; there's no actual obligation. What makes you TA is when you went fishing for a gift a few days later, and when you realised you didn't get one, your response was "wowww", which just comes across as rude and entitled. What's more, you think that response is what a "nice person" would say? You completely failied in not wanting to act like a spoiled brat.
"At this point, I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat..." when you arrived at this point in the narrative you absolutely became the AH. All of the posturing prior to this point is out the window, it's summed up perfectly. You are mean and entitled.
"I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat" this is not "nice" behavior. This is rude, spoiled brat behavior. Giving gifts isn't something that should ever be viewed as necessary. You may think she "can afford a token of appreciation" (seriously that's not what a birthday gift is) but you have no idea whether that's just your impression of her life (happens a lot). If someone who comes to your birthday party gives you 2 gifts one year and 1 the next are you going to go Dudley Dursley on them? Birthday parties are expensive. They're so the birthday person can spend time with people they care about. Not so that person can get as many gifts as possible. If I could talk to your friends I'd tell them to go to the dollar store next time and find something there, make it a group activity.
So, you threw a party expecting those invited to give gifts. That's not how invitations work. You invite, you pay - and expect nothing from your guests. That doesn't speak well of you, especially with your faked curiosity the next time you saw Sand. Step back and think about why you wanted the party in the first place. Did you truly want to spend time with your friends, or was it just a way to get something out of them? YTA, even if you are just a kid.
"At this point, I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat" Too late, you entirely look like a spoiled brat. You, being the host, should be gracious to your guests giving them the benefit of doubt and ensuring they don't feel put down or embarrassed. You thank them for coming to honor your birthday with you. You made yourself look like a selfish petty person seeking gifts under the guise of a party and perhaps made your friend feel awful about something she may not have had control over. Always be gracious and do not punish and humiliate others due to your greed.
OP. Look, I get it. When you invite people to a birthday party, the respectable thing to do is not come empty handed. With that being said, some people just suck at gift giving, while others (like me - it's my "love language.") It is something I enjoy! But I digress and do have questions. Has Sand given you gifts for your birthday/Christmas/holidays/etc., before? Or did you just become "good friends?" I mean it is kind of weird to be invited to a birthday party and not even bring a card, but you may not know the entire story. Sand may look like she could afford a trinket but looks can be deceiving. I'm going to give you a YTA for trying to play it off with a snarky remark to her.
Honestly, be happy that anyone even showed up. Its not always a given. There is a reason I stopped celebrating my birthday (or trying to host any kind of event). Too many times I would send out invites, people would tell me they were coming, I'd pour my heart and soul (not to mention money for food, etc) into setting things up. Then would come the inevitable "oh, I got invited to something else, I'm going to that instead." Sends a pretty clear message. So yeah, I don't expect gifts. I'm happy if people just show up.
The fact she asks a passive aggressive question about "oh, what did you bring again, I can't remember for some reason..." and then gives a "woww" because she apparently isn't a d**k, quite clearly proves the opposite is in fact true. Entitled little a-hole.
Somewhere along the way I hope someone tells this entitled little priss that gifts are OPTIONAL.
Might as well have said abracadabra because just like magic, that friendship disappeared.
When you are invited to a party, you bring a gift. Can be small and inexpensive, but in my opinion it's rude to show up empty handed. Unless they tell beforehand they don't expect a gift
But in this case OP obviously expected a gift and is angry she doesn't have it. That is rude too.
Load More Replies...Sorry Ryna but yeah. It's one thing to feel a bit disappointed/puzzled that your friend didn't think to bring a gift, but friends don't owe tribute - and the passive-aggressive fake question after is definitely what BP likes to call a [jerk] move. A transactional attitude to friendship ain't great and now you've communicated to your friend that she owed you payment for being included. I'd say you have a bit of thinking to do about that.
Are you 12? If you're an adult, then does it really matter that your friend didn't get you a birthday gift? If you are an adult and you consider Sand a good friend, you shouldn't "need" or even expect a birthday gift. Also, what does it matter that Sand is not "broke or poor" and could "afford SOME sort of token of appreciation"? A token of appreciation of what - the royal blessing of your friendship?
Yeah, she might be twelve; she mentioned lunch at school. I can’t remember whether kids REQUIRED presents at every birthday when I was a kid, but I *do* remember that I was told not to EXPECT presents. I always got ‘em until I grew up, and now, of course, they’re optional, but I get the impression that yes, this kid expects a present. From everyone.
Load More Replies...I really wonder how this post got any upvotes at all. Yes, you are the AH. This really clinches it: "At this point, I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat" Because that's what you are. A spoiled brat.
Just noticed that I could downvote this post thanks to this comment! Ryna, you are acting like a spoiled brat. No question about it. Apparently a present is more important to you than a friendship. When you are older and wondering why you have lost friendships, this is the moment to think on. No one wants to be friends with someone who is greedy and purposefully tries to make them feel bad. Hopefully you can learn from your mistake and apologize to your friend for the passive aggressive/downright rude remark. And your comment "I'm a nice person"? People who are ACTUALLY nice never have to announce it to others. They just are nice and care about others feelings. They definitely would care more about having fun with their friends instead of just wanting a present.
Load More Replies...Yeah, you are, actually, and I hope the negativity and down votes speak to that for you. It's sad the first thing you noticed was your friend was empty handed, not being excited that she came and accepted your invite. Inviting someone to a birthday party does not obligate them to give you a damn thing. You don't invite friends for their gifts, you invite them for their company and to spend a special day with you. Then you had the nerve to pull that little backhanded passive aggressive BS talking to another friend about their gift, not even realizing you're insulting THAT friend by have to ask what they gave you, as if it wasn't good or memorable enough to remember. "Sand's" finances are also none of your damn business. I don't care if she's a millionaire, she didn't owe you anything. "The next day at school" makes me think this is teenage drama so hopefully some of the things you'll read in the comments help you understand that no, how you're acting and feel aren't cool.
But never too late to grow some self awareness and get your sh1t together. Hopefully the responses moves this agenda forward
Load More Replies...Yeah you're TA, you shouldn't expect gifts. It's nice to be given one but you don't deserve one. Sounds like you only had an expensive "party" to get gifts. Some years my own family don't get me anything except maybe a card. However, I'm an adult and realise I won't always get gifts. Seems to me you've got some growing up and maturing to do
You aren't entitled to gifts. I have only rarely given birthday presents to adult friends. Usually you go out to eat or for pints, if it's a milestone birthday maybe do something bigger, but apart from food and drink, no one in my friends groups in N America and the UK does gifts for friends regularly.
Sure, it is strange for someone to not bring a gift, especially if it's the convention and everyone else has brought one. I understand how that would feel a little odd. However you are in no way entitled to a gift. It's a gift; there's no actual obligation. What makes you TA is when you went fishing for a gift a few days later, and when you realised you didn't get one, your response was "wowww", which just comes across as rude and entitled. What's more, you think that response is what a "nice person" would say? You completely failied in not wanting to act like a spoiled brat.
"At this point, I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat..." when you arrived at this point in the narrative you absolutely became the AH. All of the posturing prior to this point is out the window, it's summed up perfectly. You are mean and entitled.
"I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat" this is not "nice" behavior. This is rude, spoiled brat behavior. Giving gifts isn't something that should ever be viewed as necessary. You may think she "can afford a token of appreciation" (seriously that's not what a birthday gift is) but you have no idea whether that's just your impression of her life (happens a lot). If someone who comes to your birthday party gives you 2 gifts one year and 1 the next are you going to go Dudley Dursley on them? Birthday parties are expensive. They're so the birthday person can spend time with people they care about. Not so that person can get as many gifts as possible. If I could talk to your friends I'd tell them to go to the dollar store next time and find something there, make it a group activity.
So, you threw a party expecting those invited to give gifts. That's not how invitations work. You invite, you pay - and expect nothing from your guests. That doesn't speak well of you, especially with your faked curiosity the next time you saw Sand. Step back and think about why you wanted the party in the first place. Did you truly want to spend time with your friends, or was it just a way to get something out of them? YTA, even if you are just a kid.
"At this point, I just say “wowww” in a joking tone because I’m a nice person and I don’t wanna act like a spoiled brat" Too late, you entirely look like a spoiled brat. You, being the host, should be gracious to your guests giving them the benefit of doubt and ensuring they don't feel put down or embarrassed. You thank them for coming to honor your birthday with you. You made yourself look like a selfish petty person seeking gifts under the guise of a party and perhaps made your friend feel awful about something she may not have had control over. Always be gracious and do not punish and humiliate others due to your greed.
OP. Look, I get it. When you invite people to a birthday party, the respectable thing to do is not come empty handed. With that being said, some people just suck at gift giving, while others (like me - it's my "love language.") It is something I enjoy! But I digress and do have questions. Has Sand given you gifts for your birthday/Christmas/holidays/etc., before? Or did you just become "good friends?" I mean it is kind of weird to be invited to a birthday party and not even bring a card, but you may not know the entire story. Sand may look like she could afford a trinket but looks can be deceiving. I'm going to give you a YTA for trying to play it off with a snarky remark to her.
Honestly, be happy that anyone even showed up. Its not always a given. There is a reason I stopped celebrating my birthday (or trying to host any kind of event). Too many times I would send out invites, people would tell me they were coming, I'd pour my heart and soul (not to mention money for food, etc) into setting things up. Then would come the inevitable "oh, I got invited to something else, I'm going to that instead." Sends a pretty clear message. So yeah, I don't expect gifts. I'm happy if people just show up.
The fact she asks a passive aggressive question about "oh, what did you bring again, I can't remember for some reason..." and then gives a "woww" because she apparently isn't a d**k, quite clearly proves the opposite is in fact true. Entitled little a-hole.
Somewhere along the way I hope someone tells this entitled little priss that gifts are OPTIONAL.
Might as well have said abracadabra because just like magic, that friendship disappeared.
When you are invited to a party, you bring a gift. Can be small and inexpensive, but in my opinion it's rude to show up empty handed. Unless they tell beforehand they don't expect a gift
But in this case OP obviously expected a gift and is angry she doesn't have it. That is rude too.
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