Airplane Passenger Who Cut In Line To Exit The Plane Gets Schooled By Other Passenger, Seeks Backup Online, Gets Schooled Some More
Let’s applaud the historians and archaeologists – they really do an incredible job, and thanks to their research we know who actually made the first trip around the world (hint – his name was not Magellan…) and when the first printed book appeared. Which king ruled in Babylon 3K years ago, and when each of the great pyramids of Egypt was built…
But there is something that no historian will definitely tell you – although each of us at least once in a lifetime would probably like to know. Who was the very first entitled person in the history of humanity, and how was it expressed? Perhaps then we would be closer to understanding why stories like this one by the user u/amiadick736283 happen regularly. Or would we…
The original poster once traveled by plane with no assigned seats and had his seat in one of the back rows
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When the plane landed and the seatbelt sign was off, the guy grabbed his backpack and rushed to the exit
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Most of the passengers on the plane were indignant over such behavior and tried to tell him off
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However, the author believes there’s no strict rules governing leaving the plane, so he didn’t violate anything
You know what’s the funniest thing about this story? The fact that the Original Poster (OP) turned out to be the entitled person himself, although he probably sincerely considers himself a ‘system breaker’ or something like that. So, the author of the post once flew from Austin, TX to Denver, CO (the OP does not give these details, but we found out anyway…) on a flight with no seat assignments. And it so happened that the OP got a seat at the very back of the plane.
When the plane landed, the author decided that since his only luggage was a backpack, why not cut the line to the exit from the aircraft? Basically, while the passengers sitting in front got up, and the people in the middle and at the back of the plane remained in their seats, the guy grabbed his backpack and rushed to the exit.
The original poster, as he said, had headphones in his ears, so he pretended not to hear when some passenger in the front grunted: “Have the rules changed?” And as well, when the same guy said louder: “Why don’t you go back to the back and wait like everyone else?” The OP also heard very well how a woman said that she also needed to get out quickly so as not to be late for her connecting flight that was already boarding. To this, the same angry passenger told him: “Well, the rules haven’t changed, but if you want to be a jerk, go ahead!”
As for the author of the post, he sincerely believes that he did nothing reprehensible – indeed, the airline’s rules did not require passengers to stay in their seats after the seatbelt sign was off and the bridge was connected to the plane. The guy was rather pleased with how cleverly he got out of this situation. Although, probably, some remorse still tormented the OP – otherwise he would not have written this post in the AITA community…
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Indeed, the rules of most airlines do not provide for a strict order of exit from the aircraft. But still, there is a certain common courtesy which implies that passengers leave the aircraft in order of rows, from front to back. An exception to this situation would be if someone might miss their connecting flight. In this case, for example, “The completely correct guide to getting off a plane” published by the Washington Post a few years ago explicitly recommends: “don’t wait until it’s time to get off the plane.”
As for the exit order of the rest of the passengers, Abbie Unger, a former flight attendant who owns a company helping aspiring flight attendants, quoted by the same WP article, directly says: “Don’t try to get into the aisle before it’s your turn. ” In other words, the original poster didn’t really break any rules, but still acted inappropriately.
By the way, a curious situation happened in the comments – one of the redditors turned out to be the same woman from the plane who almost missed her connected flight. According to her, she is a registered nurse, and if she had missed the transfer to her flight to Portland, she would have arrived to her destination not at 9pm, but three and a half hours later. It’s good that everything worked out for her…
The opinions of the commenters, as is often the case, were divided. Someone reasonably stated that since there is no strict rule governing the exit of passengers from the plane, then you can do whatever you want. Others appeal to traditions and common courtesy – especially since all sorts of unwritten rules are often based on elementary common sense. “The ‘rule’ is an unspoken social order of merging. But really it’s based on efficiency,” one commenter wrote. And do you, our dear readers, usually follow this “rule” while leaving the aircraft after landing?
People in the comments were divided over this case but most of them think the author did wrong here
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Share on FacebookActually, what he did was a benefit to everyone. Those who can get their stuff quickly and efficiently and be ready to exit the plane when the door opens make the deplaning process quicker. It's the people who take forever to get their stuff together while standing in the aisle and making everyone behind them wait who are the real problem.
Yeah, no. This doesn't make deboarding any faster, only for the prick. This literally happened to me April. Except there was no space, and the jerk basically shoved me back into my seat to get ahead of me. Turned into him recording me, because he got a lot of my elbows while I grabbed my bags. You invade my space, F yours...
Load More Replies...Couldn’t care less if folk want to rush off the plane, there’s no rules about order as far as I e ever been aware - just grab your stuff and go. If I’ve a connecting flight that I need to get to then I’ll try to exit asap but otherwise because I hate the slow shuffling forward I’m happy to slowly get stuff together, out of peoples way and definitely not blocking the aisle, and leave when the initial rush calms down. Why folk get so worked up about stuff like this and make up some arbitrary rules is beyond me. Just calm your tits and as long as folk aren’t hurting anyone - which this dude wasn’t - then keep yourself out of other peoples business
I'm European, and I've been on some flights where the flight attendant announced that you had to wait your turn to get off/up and let the people in front leave first so there would be any pushing around. Never knew if it was a rule or not, still don't I just think that unless I 'm in a hurry it doesn't hurt me to wait a bit
Load More Replies...Is this some American rule I've never heard of? As soon as the seatbelt sign is turned off, you can get up and start sorting your stuff out to leave, unless there has been an announcement about people with connecting flights. I can't stand for very long, so I tend to remain seated until people start to move, and will grab my bag on the way past if it isn't immediately overhead.
It's the usual practice, but nowhere is it a rule.
Load More Replies...I don't understand why he would be TA. No one in the middle was getting up. He was in an aisle seat and had his bag. He didn't push anyone or block anyone. His getting up affected no one
Totally agree. I'm normally one of the last off regardless of where I am on the plane because I lovey life with the urgency of a sloth. As long as you let people out if they are waiting and aren't rude it's all good.
Load More Replies...I totally agree. I do wait for people to get up, but I am so sick of having a purse or a backpack and having People in front of me like super slowly taking their c**p out when there’s a big gap ahead of them just let people go past you if you’re struggling I usually have a quick connecting flight and it sucks so no I don’t think you’re the a*****e if you just have a backpack and you have the space to go I think you should go as long as you’re not pushing people aside or cutting them off but if we’re talking about airplanes, the people in the middle get the two arm rest, stop being A*s hat about it I’ll and window seat guys and also close your legs don’t go into my space.
I agree with you. But then people would abuse it and start pushing and shoving and not being civil. Think of driving on the highways, there are still people who will tailgate you and weave through traffic, which ends up causing more traffic.
Load More Replies...He walked down an open aisle. He did nothing wrong. Get over yourself. You're not entitled to be first in line just because you got a front row seat and don't have your stuff together.
This just sounds like poor planning on his part. If his connection has that close together, then why didn't he sit more towards the front instead of in the back.
Load More Replies...There is literally no way to know who has a connecting flight. It is never usually announced about priority disembarking. It always seems to be first come first served. This is new to me. NTA
They used to make announcements but since covid I have never had nor heard one. And I have had some tight connections since.
Load More Replies...i think the “YTA” crowd need to chill out. If there where rules for this then the attendants should tell you when they make their announcements. I flew last year. When it was time to get off, the front of the plane got up but everyone else just sat there. I didn’t have bags and i didn’t like flying. You bet I got up and got in line. I didn’t run anyone over and I wasn’t rude to anyone. You want to sit there all day, go for it. I still had to get on another plane and I didn’t know how long it would take me to find it. Getting up while everyone else choses to remain seated doesn’t make you an a hole.
Good heavens I'm glad I don't fly any more. It seems like getting on and off a plane is like a black Friday sale.
I understand it’s a privilege, but I started upgrading myself just to avoid a lot of this - especially when travelling home to the US where it seems there’s just seems to be so much drama and unsolicited scolding about anything and everything.
Load More Replies...The aisle was clear because people were waiting for the ones in front of them to get off instead of standing up in the narrow aisle. However if you have a small bag and can just get up and go without cutting someone off, then I don't see the problem. I don't know why people want to stand in the aisle and wait though, it's awkward hovering over people who are still in their seats. Also, no one who spoke up would have known if he had to catch a connection, so should really have just minded their own business.
NTA.. If you're ready to go, go. There's no "rule" about when you can get up
What drives me bonkers is people who block the aisle and wait until the last possible minute to get their bags from the overhead bin, taking their sweetest time. If the aisle is clear all the way to the front of the plane, YTA. If a guy rushed all the way to the front, more power to him.
If the seat belt sign is off and the average American whale isn't moving, I sure as hell will book it to the front. NTA
As a pilot, your supposed to disembark like this: connecting flight passengers first, then first section, middle section, back section, in the order the rows come in. Nice and orderly. You may get away with just barging to the front, but you’re in the wrong and quite entitled. You’re only getting away with this as it’s virtually impossible for the flight attendants to control as they would have no physical space to do so.
Wouldn't it be more efficient, in terms of people flow, if everyone in an aisle seat got off first, then the middle seats and then the window seats? Especially if, hypothetically, everyone needs to access the overhead bins at some point. Then row-times as many people can do the most time consuming part at the same time, which is more than when you are doing it in sections. Of course that's hypothetical, nobodies going to let their small child or grandma with dementia out of their sight, but it would be more efficient.
Load More Replies...This must be country specific. I've never been on a flight wherever everybody didn't get up as soon as the seatbelt sign was turned off.
People are so testy! If there was no one in his way, have at it. It's not like he was knocking down women and children, trying to de-plane. I used to travel for business and I have circulation issues. I always sat on the isle, walked during the flight and was the first one standing when the plane stopped. I would stand next to back of seat, so others in my row could exit in front of me, but had there been no one in my way, I would have walked forward too. Sometimes it would take 20 minutes to de-plane, cause the people in front move like molasses, instead of with a purpose. The airline may impose rules on boarding, but there are no rules then getting off, just be courteous.
People seem to confuse some things on Reddit and in the comments here. You're NTA for grabbing your backpack and leaving, neither are you the TA for sitting and waiting. You're TA though if you rush to get out but take forever to get your stuff and end up make a line. So many times have I been on a flight where a family or so was busy grabbing their stuff, making a line behind them where many only have a backpack, and all the people in front have already left the plane. If there was a rule it should be: Got another flight? Go first. Sitting up front? Go second. Got a backpack only? Go third. While they're queued up everyone else can start grabbing theirs and get ready to leave.
As long as you listen to the FA if they have specific deplaning instructions and let out people ahead of you when they're ready, I don't see a problem.
Am I the only one who genuinely prefers to be the last off the plane? I don't have to worry about crowding or being in anyone's way, and I can take my time (within reason of course) to get my luggage down without worrying I'm holding someone else up from getting there's. Maybe that's just the social anxiety in me...
Its not just you, that is what I will do if I dont have a connecting flight to catch or a time sensitive thing to get to right away (like a show or train or wedding, etc). I usually have checked bags for long trips so I can wait on the plane or in baggage claim, either way Im waiting.
Load More Replies...I've never heard of this rule before. It's more of a practice I guess. Still I don't see a problem
I've never heard of a rule like that. People definitely do not follow that rule in Europe if it's even a thing at all. As soon as the seatbelt sign turns off, people get up and start grabbing their stuff. Usually right in the middle of the aisle. It's always chaos.
The article title is inaccurate. Guess the journalist is salty. They YTA votes are from people that see "road work ahead" and will speed to the front of the line and when it's goes down to one lane, they drive slow af to hold up everyone else. Some people just get off on the power they can hold over others, like slowing them in traffic for no reason. They're just AHs
To me this is like people in a construction lane and that one a*****e who sees the merging sign from 10 miles away but cuts everybody off at the front. Yeah, one person? Doesn't do much. But them three. Five. Ten. More do it. And suddenly the ten minute wait you have in line lasts over an hour. So yeah. She's an a*****e. If not from inconsideration, then from leading a bad example.
They didn't push their way past people who were already up, that would be different. The isle was open and free when he went up in line. So in this situation I'd say NTA. IF they had pushed past others I'd think differently.
NTA! people on planes are FKN slower than mollases in January and then these idiots with 4 &5 pieces of luggage that slows everything down. You're NTA!
I fly alot in Europe and since Covid... the crew always announce to exit the plane in order of your seat row. At least 3 years now and on different airlines. They even say to not stand until it's your rows turn. It is much more civil for sure. If you want off first, buy a seat at the front of the plane.
NTA. Unless you cut off ppl who have to get off first (disabled, connecting flight, whatever) there is no rule that you disimbark front to back. My family n i travel a lot. My mom has her own wheelchair we bring on trips so we have to wait for it to be dropped off at the gate. Usually means a lot of ppl WELL behind us get off before us. We arent in a rush n if ppl have less than us then by all means get on your way
Unwritten rules exist for a reason. There seems to be a correlation between age and breaking Unwritten rules. The younger a person is, the less the rules apply to them. If everyone on that plane did what OP did, exiting that plane would be complete chaos. Why does arrogance always go hand in hand with ignorance??
I travel often for work. Overhead bins are jam-packed, so if you get up before your row, you will get a lot of side-eyes and requests to move because people often have to stow their bags a section or two back from their actual seat. It's not a rule, but just logical and would help everyone get off quicker if people didn't jam the rows immediately from the back of the plane. I don't think OP is rude, but just doesn't travel with a carry-on often enough to recognize this.
I've only flown a few times (all on southwest) I always read all the flight and emergency rules before going on any kind of trip and I didn't see this rule. However, I did, one time, hear the captain or FA on the pa system to allow those with the use of wheelchairs to disembark first. That was only one time and there was only one lady with a wheelchair. The other 2 times everyone pretty much got up at the same time, began grabbing luggage and lining up. I sat and waited to be the last one off anyway, but I was a kid and wanted to be on the plane as long as possible lol. Tbf, my flights were never more than 2-3 hours though.
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Although Britain spread much of its culture to the rest of world - not always a good thing - it seems we omitted to educate them in the art of queuing. It's totally obvious that you're standing in the way of someone nearer the front; it makes complete sense that the plane should empty in a logical order. I'd hate to have you on a plane in a "situation" which required calmness and thought for others.
I disagree. It seems much more efficient for those with light luggage who can quickly get off will make room for those who need to get in the overhead bins.
Load More Replies...Had you done this by mistake, i would have said NTA, ..BUT YTA and you knew you what you were doing and because you purposefully ignored the guy bringing it up to you and you were too cowardly to respond to him by hiding behind your headphones.
Another experience on frontier Airlines this was on the Phoenix to Orlando route, and Creep House sat next to the window, decided as soon as the plane stopped that he wanted us to get up and stand and cut in front of the people who are in the aisle allready- stands up, makes a big production he says He needs to get out of his Seat and as there’s nowhere to go, we just kind of look at each other and before we can even move her legs or anything he just barreled through us yeah grown man fully adult if I had to say probably 30s or 40s. then some other hillbillies came through the cabin before their turn, and we were already pretty irritated at this point at the idiots who were cutting in front of other people and said that’s not how we do it and the man pointed to the one cow and said well she’s pregnant and sick and the second cow came up and said mind your business, real nasty, like so yup frontier airlines the Jerry Springer of airlines
NTA. as long as you're not pushing and shoving, it's all good. your seat order isn't a queue. if you can get up and have your stuff ready while others are still getting things together, then you've every right to move past them. nobody worries about this on a train. you get your stuff, when you're ready, you stand, and head towards the nearest door.
I've flown domestically and internationally. No such rule as 'waiting your turn'. Just get up and leave when you choose. I usually do wait until the initial rush is over, because I am short and was tired of getting 'brained' by people getting their stuff out of overhead bins.
I've always thought it was polite to wait for the people in front of me to get up and get their stuff. It keeps the aisle moving. If everyone gets up, starts pulling their things out of the bins, it gets very crowded. If you are on the aisle and are set, go ahead and go but if you are blocking the people from getting their belongings then you are being rude.
I don't see any thing wrong with what you did. You just moved ahead when there was space in front of you. Not pushing is the only thing I know of as far as 'rules'. No one wrote a rule book for airline boarding. Just be polite. I always err in the way of polite and respectful. Just walking up the isle is the way to deplane. Honestly, it's so much pettiness over silly things that people get their ego bruised over. I get assistance because I have to walk with canes and get help. So I wait until the plane is empty before deplaning. I just try to stay out of the way. But even so there's a big kerfuffle going on about people like me who board first to get out of the way of everyone else. So much importance over nothing.
I think if plane landing they should notify connecting flight. I mean you may make it, but pretty sure luggage won't
I've never heard of this rule either & I did a lot of family vacation/family wedding traveler when you get, I got up & out when my parents did, the ignorant who said when did rules change???? What rules????? Idiot
Isn't exiting the amtrak train, the same? Does a person have to wait for each and everyone in front to exit by rows? I've never seen that. Those who have their stuff organized jump up and go, and don't have to stand idly by until every single person in front is ready; exit when ready as long as there is no pushing or shoving.
I'm an American who has flown internationally. I have never once even heard of such a "rule," spoken or otherwise. If you are all prepared and ready and can make your way up to the front of the plane after the captain has parked and turned on the fasten seatbelt sign WITHOUT being a nuisance or hindrance to other passengers, sure, go for it. This would never be an issue for me because I am almost never in a hurry to get off a plane. Why? I don't know, I just am not bothered by waiting. On the other hand, if airline representatives have told the entire cabin beforehand that some people need to rush to catch another flight and you do this, well, then absolutely YTA and should get detained and added to the no-fly list. But if you are all ready and can get to the aircraft door without disturbing or hassling others (i.e., not slamming your guitar on everyone's heads while walking down the aisle), and no such announcement has been made by the flight crew? 100% NTA.
The problem isn't that the guy lined up early. It's that people that are waiting in the aisle often don't let people ready to come out in the rows next to them to "cut before them". If someone is ready to leave and you're not already obviously ahead of them, then please let them out first. That includes all the elderly, women and children standing in the aisle. Usually they cut ahead unjustly. Entitled chivalry BS.
If you have kids you normally board and deplane as priority. I'm in Europe. My buggy gets tagged at check in but I can use it all the way to the gate. They let me on with priority so they have time to load my buggy with other checked baggage before takeoff. If I waited till last, that fine, but the planes then waiting on ground crew to load it. Same getting off, they hold my buggy to give it to me as I get off the plane, let me off near the front and free up the guy that's standing waiting with it 🤷
Load More Replies...It never made much of a difference to me. We waited. My partner was disabled, and he couldn't move fast. I had to carry all our stuff, and it's always difficult to get stuff out of the overhead when people are already standing in the aisles. It was getting ON that was always the problem. My partner used a walker, so I had all the carry-ons and had to put them in overheads myself. People would get pissed if they had to wait 20 seconds to get their seat, which was reserved anyway. So what's the big deal? They wanted to be the first to get their bags in the overhead compartment. It was always a fight to see who would get the bigger overhead spaces. JHC. I was so happy when we started to fly first class. Expensive, yes, but was so much better for a disabled person. We could board first and get settled before other people. And I could have that mai tai in my hand, while watching people falling over each other to get the best overhead compartment space.
Mostly who cares?? with the exception of those with connecting flights it's not an issue for anyone. He was at the back, literally had one backpack and was ready to go unlike everyone else. So why on Earth does this matter? I've never been on a plane in my life but I would be quite happy to take my time and let everyone else rush off first and I can safely toddle off by myself. This wasn't a British plane was it where we'd all be in line and tutting at the audacity of this usurper?? 🤷🏻♂️🤣🤣
Why did he pick a back seat when he knew he had a connecting flight that was so close together? P**s poor planning.
Load More Replies...I totally agree that you exit according to aisle. I cannot express enough how frustrating it is to have someone standing literally against my seat while I am ready to go also, but waiting until it is my turn. Now I can’t get up because you are in my aisle, and in my way. Just wait your turn. We all get stuck with crappy seats sometimes. It’s simply airplane etiquette.
It seems usually when I land, mostly travel to Asia and if I just have a backpack and the aisle is clear, I go for it.Thwn the noise of 100 people turning their phone back on. I see no problem with this as the people in the middle of the plane aren't ready anyway.
I feel like there should some kinda of order that everyone is called out from people who have connecting flights then people like op Then people who don't have there stuff around them and would have to walk to get them because in every flight I've been on some people are up and get out while others wait but it's not really on order of rows otherwise it would take forever as ofc as many others have stated and I did earlier if someone has there stuff in the over head rooms behind them they then would have to squeeze past a bunch of people
Lol..this 'rule' is clearly American, I have no idea, what the 'issue' is here..the o.p seems fine to me..the 'rule' keepers are the lunatics..lol
This is not a rule or anything except someone made up and a few people think it's the rule of the land. Obviously whoever wrote this article also believes in this imaginary "rule" but they're just another sheep in the world.
I never have a carry on bag so I always try to get an aisle seat as close to the front as I can. Sometimes I can't but I always wait my turn. I am claustrophobic so a long wait always panics me and I use little coping skills. The flight is enough problem for me. I think that passengers with no carryons should exit first.
It's not a rule to push people out of your the way on a sidewalk where yiu are walking. Follow the OPs example and be a kind person because you deserve to force other people to your will, Karen!
Try flying British Airways...if it's nor your turn by row and they see you standing they'll yell at you. That's some rigid but good discipline for respectful in-flight manners which a lot of people overlook. You can advise the crew of your connecting flight but that's it.
She was fine. If I have to grab stuff I was. If I have just a bag in my hands I get up. I will let people in front if they need to cut. Mostly, if I am not in a hurry I will wait. I have been on the plan for hours anyways. Who cares. Plus there are handicapped up front that waits till everyone is off so someone can assist them. First come first serve doesn't make since. If the Is airline says rows blank to blank get up first and then they go down the line, fine. Then it is a rule.
it's politeness, yet, if you got the 1% chance and don't bother others (more than rules fundamentalists), I'd say go for it. usually doesn't happen, but... same "rule" applies to a local connection to bus/ferry, with international connection. so, if te bus stopped, and ppl ges busy, why not get the chance to rush for the exit if you travel light?
Been flying 2-4 times a month (or rather 4-8 since it's back and forth) in the past... ehm cc 10 years I think? Never heard about this "rule" before this subreddit or never met anyone who ever made this into a problem for themselves, or got annoyed that someone gets off 5 seconds earlier than someone else. Is this maybe some weird US thing? Or a low-fair airline thing maybe? Was there an actual rule or commercial over there or something I missed? Because if not, I can't believe WTF is wrong with people? Some groups really miss empathy and common sense so much that they need unwritten social rules in order to be able to get off from a plane in an organized manner? Wtf?
I've been flying since I was a kid in the 70s and 80s and there always seems to be three groups of people: the ones who are in a rush, the ones who don't know that the door doesn't open right away and if you stand up, you're going to be standing awkwardly for a bit, and the ones who know and will wait to deplane. I was kind of trained to wait because I flew as an unaccompanied minor and staid in my seat until I was retrieved. So the plane would taxi into place and stop, but there are things that happen after that and before the doors open. Once the doors open, there may still be a wait because there are often individuals who need assistance deplaning and they go first. Unless you are at risk of missing a connecting flight or a very important event, there really is no point in not waiting for the hurried people to do their rushing while you just get to sit another couple of minutes and not feel the anxiety of getting out with the crowd.
NTA, I think it's weird because they aren't getting off the plan e any sooner that the rest of us. The doors open when they open. But no, NTA
This is why there's so much road rage in our country. People take WVERYTHING personally like their liberties or person is being attacked. It's really simple, just like driving, if there's room and it's not causing g somebody to slam on their breaks (or back up in the plane) then go. If there is no room, then wait. Rushing to the door gains you what, 2 minutes? Just like rushing down the road to a red light...congrats, you got to the stop and wait poi t before I did. It's simple, just be courteous of those around you and not force yourself in between them. And also, don't assume somebody is forcing themselves in front of you simply because they got in front of you. If there's space, then let it go.
This must be a US thing. Y'all find so many things to be petty about, it's insane. Get over yourselves, your ego and entitlement is almost as big as your belly by now.
They leave the seat belt sign on and specifically tell you not to get up until the plane is fully stopped and the sign goes off. So yes, you are a jerk if you get up before that.
Actually, what he did was a benefit to everyone. Those who can get their stuff quickly and efficiently and be ready to exit the plane when the door opens make the deplaning process quicker. It's the people who take forever to get their stuff together while standing in the aisle and making everyone behind them wait who are the real problem.
Yeah, no. This doesn't make deboarding any faster, only for the prick. This literally happened to me April. Except there was no space, and the jerk basically shoved me back into my seat to get ahead of me. Turned into him recording me, because he got a lot of my elbows while I grabbed my bags. You invade my space, F yours...
Load More Replies...Couldn’t care less if folk want to rush off the plane, there’s no rules about order as far as I e ever been aware - just grab your stuff and go. If I’ve a connecting flight that I need to get to then I’ll try to exit asap but otherwise because I hate the slow shuffling forward I’m happy to slowly get stuff together, out of peoples way and definitely not blocking the aisle, and leave when the initial rush calms down. Why folk get so worked up about stuff like this and make up some arbitrary rules is beyond me. Just calm your tits and as long as folk aren’t hurting anyone - which this dude wasn’t - then keep yourself out of other peoples business
I'm European, and I've been on some flights where the flight attendant announced that you had to wait your turn to get off/up and let the people in front leave first so there would be any pushing around. Never knew if it was a rule or not, still don't I just think that unless I 'm in a hurry it doesn't hurt me to wait a bit
Load More Replies...Is this some American rule I've never heard of? As soon as the seatbelt sign is turned off, you can get up and start sorting your stuff out to leave, unless there has been an announcement about people with connecting flights. I can't stand for very long, so I tend to remain seated until people start to move, and will grab my bag on the way past if it isn't immediately overhead.
It's the usual practice, but nowhere is it a rule.
Load More Replies...I don't understand why he would be TA. No one in the middle was getting up. He was in an aisle seat and had his bag. He didn't push anyone or block anyone. His getting up affected no one
Totally agree. I'm normally one of the last off regardless of where I am on the plane because I lovey life with the urgency of a sloth. As long as you let people out if they are waiting and aren't rude it's all good.
Load More Replies...I totally agree. I do wait for people to get up, but I am so sick of having a purse or a backpack and having People in front of me like super slowly taking their c**p out when there’s a big gap ahead of them just let people go past you if you’re struggling I usually have a quick connecting flight and it sucks so no I don’t think you’re the a*****e if you just have a backpack and you have the space to go I think you should go as long as you’re not pushing people aside or cutting them off but if we’re talking about airplanes, the people in the middle get the two arm rest, stop being A*s hat about it I’ll and window seat guys and also close your legs don’t go into my space.
I agree with you. But then people would abuse it and start pushing and shoving and not being civil. Think of driving on the highways, there are still people who will tailgate you and weave through traffic, which ends up causing more traffic.
Load More Replies...He walked down an open aisle. He did nothing wrong. Get over yourself. You're not entitled to be first in line just because you got a front row seat and don't have your stuff together.
This just sounds like poor planning on his part. If his connection has that close together, then why didn't he sit more towards the front instead of in the back.
Load More Replies...There is literally no way to know who has a connecting flight. It is never usually announced about priority disembarking. It always seems to be first come first served. This is new to me. NTA
They used to make announcements but since covid I have never had nor heard one. And I have had some tight connections since.
Load More Replies...i think the “YTA” crowd need to chill out. If there where rules for this then the attendants should tell you when they make their announcements. I flew last year. When it was time to get off, the front of the plane got up but everyone else just sat there. I didn’t have bags and i didn’t like flying. You bet I got up and got in line. I didn’t run anyone over and I wasn’t rude to anyone. You want to sit there all day, go for it. I still had to get on another plane and I didn’t know how long it would take me to find it. Getting up while everyone else choses to remain seated doesn’t make you an a hole.
Good heavens I'm glad I don't fly any more. It seems like getting on and off a plane is like a black Friday sale.
I understand it’s a privilege, but I started upgrading myself just to avoid a lot of this - especially when travelling home to the US where it seems there’s just seems to be so much drama and unsolicited scolding about anything and everything.
Load More Replies...The aisle was clear because people were waiting for the ones in front of them to get off instead of standing up in the narrow aisle. However if you have a small bag and can just get up and go without cutting someone off, then I don't see the problem. I don't know why people want to stand in the aisle and wait though, it's awkward hovering over people who are still in their seats. Also, no one who spoke up would have known if he had to catch a connection, so should really have just minded their own business.
NTA.. If you're ready to go, go. There's no "rule" about when you can get up
What drives me bonkers is people who block the aisle and wait until the last possible minute to get their bags from the overhead bin, taking their sweetest time. If the aisle is clear all the way to the front of the plane, YTA. If a guy rushed all the way to the front, more power to him.
If the seat belt sign is off and the average American whale isn't moving, I sure as hell will book it to the front. NTA
As a pilot, your supposed to disembark like this: connecting flight passengers first, then first section, middle section, back section, in the order the rows come in. Nice and orderly. You may get away with just barging to the front, but you’re in the wrong and quite entitled. You’re only getting away with this as it’s virtually impossible for the flight attendants to control as they would have no physical space to do so.
Wouldn't it be more efficient, in terms of people flow, if everyone in an aisle seat got off first, then the middle seats and then the window seats? Especially if, hypothetically, everyone needs to access the overhead bins at some point. Then row-times as many people can do the most time consuming part at the same time, which is more than when you are doing it in sections. Of course that's hypothetical, nobodies going to let their small child or grandma with dementia out of their sight, but it would be more efficient.
Load More Replies...This must be country specific. I've never been on a flight wherever everybody didn't get up as soon as the seatbelt sign was turned off.
People are so testy! If there was no one in his way, have at it. It's not like he was knocking down women and children, trying to de-plane. I used to travel for business and I have circulation issues. I always sat on the isle, walked during the flight and was the first one standing when the plane stopped. I would stand next to back of seat, so others in my row could exit in front of me, but had there been no one in my way, I would have walked forward too. Sometimes it would take 20 minutes to de-plane, cause the people in front move like molasses, instead of with a purpose. The airline may impose rules on boarding, but there are no rules then getting off, just be courteous.
People seem to confuse some things on Reddit and in the comments here. You're NTA for grabbing your backpack and leaving, neither are you the TA for sitting and waiting. You're TA though if you rush to get out but take forever to get your stuff and end up make a line. So many times have I been on a flight where a family or so was busy grabbing their stuff, making a line behind them where many only have a backpack, and all the people in front have already left the plane. If there was a rule it should be: Got another flight? Go first. Sitting up front? Go second. Got a backpack only? Go third. While they're queued up everyone else can start grabbing theirs and get ready to leave.
As long as you listen to the FA if they have specific deplaning instructions and let out people ahead of you when they're ready, I don't see a problem.
Am I the only one who genuinely prefers to be the last off the plane? I don't have to worry about crowding or being in anyone's way, and I can take my time (within reason of course) to get my luggage down without worrying I'm holding someone else up from getting there's. Maybe that's just the social anxiety in me...
Its not just you, that is what I will do if I dont have a connecting flight to catch or a time sensitive thing to get to right away (like a show or train or wedding, etc). I usually have checked bags for long trips so I can wait on the plane or in baggage claim, either way Im waiting.
Load More Replies...I've never heard of this rule before. It's more of a practice I guess. Still I don't see a problem
I've never heard of a rule like that. People definitely do not follow that rule in Europe if it's even a thing at all. As soon as the seatbelt sign turns off, people get up and start grabbing their stuff. Usually right in the middle of the aisle. It's always chaos.
The article title is inaccurate. Guess the journalist is salty. They YTA votes are from people that see "road work ahead" and will speed to the front of the line and when it's goes down to one lane, they drive slow af to hold up everyone else. Some people just get off on the power they can hold over others, like slowing them in traffic for no reason. They're just AHs
To me this is like people in a construction lane and that one a*****e who sees the merging sign from 10 miles away but cuts everybody off at the front. Yeah, one person? Doesn't do much. But them three. Five. Ten. More do it. And suddenly the ten minute wait you have in line lasts over an hour. So yeah. She's an a*****e. If not from inconsideration, then from leading a bad example.
They didn't push their way past people who were already up, that would be different. The isle was open and free when he went up in line. So in this situation I'd say NTA. IF they had pushed past others I'd think differently.
NTA! people on planes are FKN slower than mollases in January and then these idiots with 4 &5 pieces of luggage that slows everything down. You're NTA!
I fly alot in Europe and since Covid... the crew always announce to exit the plane in order of your seat row. At least 3 years now and on different airlines. They even say to not stand until it's your rows turn. It is much more civil for sure. If you want off first, buy a seat at the front of the plane.
NTA. Unless you cut off ppl who have to get off first (disabled, connecting flight, whatever) there is no rule that you disimbark front to back. My family n i travel a lot. My mom has her own wheelchair we bring on trips so we have to wait for it to be dropped off at the gate. Usually means a lot of ppl WELL behind us get off before us. We arent in a rush n if ppl have less than us then by all means get on your way
Unwritten rules exist for a reason. There seems to be a correlation between age and breaking Unwritten rules. The younger a person is, the less the rules apply to them. If everyone on that plane did what OP did, exiting that plane would be complete chaos. Why does arrogance always go hand in hand with ignorance??
I travel often for work. Overhead bins are jam-packed, so if you get up before your row, you will get a lot of side-eyes and requests to move because people often have to stow their bags a section or two back from their actual seat. It's not a rule, but just logical and would help everyone get off quicker if people didn't jam the rows immediately from the back of the plane. I don't think OP is rude, but just doesn't travel with a carry-on often enough to recognize this.
I've only flown a few times (all on southwest) I always read all the flight and emergency rules before going on any kind of trip and I didn't see this rule. However, I did, one time, hear the captain or FA on the pa system to allow those with the use of wheelchairs to disembark first. That was only one time and there was only one lady with a wheelchair. The other 2 times everyone pretty much got up at the same time, began grabbing luggage and lining up. I sat and waited to be the last one off anyway, but I was a kid and wanted to be on the plane as long as possible lol. Tbf, my flights were never more than 2-3 hours though.
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Although Britain spread much of its culture to the rest of world - not always a good thing - it seems we omitted to educate them in the art of queuing. It's totally obvious that you're standing in the way of someone nearer the front; it makes complete sense that the plane should empty in a logical order. I'd hate to have you on a plane in a "situation" which required calmness and thought for others.
I disagree. It seems much more efficient for those with light luggage who can quickly get off will make room for those who need to get in the overhead bins.
Load More Replies...Had you done this by mistake, i would have said NTA, ..BUT YTA and you knew you what you were doing and because you purposefully ignored the guy bringing it up to you and you were too cowardly to respond to him by hiding behind your headphones.
Another experience on frontier Airlines this was on the Phoenix to Orlando route, and Creep House sat next to the window, decided as soon as the plane stopped that he wanted us to get up and stand and cut in front of the people who are in the aisle allready- stands up, makes a big production he says He needs to get out of his Seat and as there’s nowhere to go, we just kind of look at each other and before we can even move her legs or anything he just barreled through us yeah grown man fully adult if I had to say probably 30s or 40s. then some other hillbillies came through the cabin before their turn, and we were already pretty irritated at this point at the idiots who were cutting in front of other people and said that’s not how we do it and the man pointed to the one cow and said well she’s pregnant and sick and the second cow came up and said mind your business, real nasty, like so yup frontier airlines the Jerry Springer of airlines
NTA. as long as you're not pushing and shoving, it's all good. your seat order isn't a queue. if you can get up and have your stuff ready while others are still getting things together, then you've every right to move past them. nobody worries about this on a train. you get your stuff, when you're ready, you stand, and head towards the nearest door.
I've flown domestically and internationally. No such rule as 'waiting your turn'. Just get up and leave when you choose. I usually do wait until the initial rush is over, because I am short and was tired of getting 'brained' by people getting their stuff out of overhead bins.
I've always thought it was polite to wait for the people in front of me to get up and get their stuff. It keeps the aisle moving. If everyone gets up, starts pulling their things out of the bins, it gets very crowded. If you are on the aisle and are set, go ahead and go but if you are blocking the people from getting their belongings then you are being rude.
I don't see any thing wrong with what you did. You just moved ahead when there was space in front of you. Not pushing is the only thing I know of as far as 'rules'. No one wrote a rule book for airline boarding. Just be polite. I always err in the way of polite and respectful. Just walking up the isle is the way to deplane. Honestly, it's so much pettiness over silly things that people get their ego bruised over. I get assistance because I have to walk with canes and get help. So I wait until the plane is empty before deplaning. I just try to stay out of the way. But even so there's a big kerfuffle going on about people like me who board first to get out of the way of everyone else. So much importance over nothing.
I think if plane landing they should notify connecting flight. I mean you may make it, but pretty sure luggage won't
I've never heard of this rule either & I did a lot of family vacation/family wedding traveler when you get, I got up & out when my parents did, the ignorant who said when did rules change???? What rules????? Idiot
Isn't exiting the amtrak train, the same? Does a person have to wait for each and everyone in front to exit by rows? I've never seen that. Those who have their stuff organized jump up and go, and don't have to stand idly by until every single person in front is ready; exit when ready as long as there is no pushing or shoving.
I'm an American who has flown internationally. I have never once even heard of such a "rule," spoken or otherwise. If you are all prepared and ready and can make your way up to the front of the plane after the captain has parked and turned on the fasten seatbelt sign WITHOUT being a nuisance or hindrance to other passengers, sure, go for it. This would never be an issue for me because I am almost never in a hurry to get off a plane. Why? I don't know, I just am not bothered by waiting. On the other hand, if airline representatives have told the entire cabin beforehand that some people need to rush to catch another flight and you do this, well, then absolutely YTA and should get detained and added to the no-fly list. But if you are all ready and can get to the aircraft door without disturbing or hassling others (i.e., not slamming your guitar on everyone's heads while walking down the aisle), and no such announcement has been made by the flight crew? 100% NTA.
The problem isn't that the guy lined up early. It's that people that are waiting in the aisle often don't let people ready to come out in the rows next to them to "cut before them". If someone is ready to leave and you're not already obviously ahead of them, then please let them out first. That includes all the elderly, women and children standing in the aisle. Usually they cut ahead unjustly. Entitled chivalry BS.
If you have kids you normally board and deplane as priority. I'm in Europe. My buggy gets tagged at check in but I can use it all the way to the gate. They let me on with priority so they have time to load my buggy with other checked baggage before takeoff. If I waited till last, that fine, but the planes then waiting on ground crew to load it. Same getting off, they hold my buggy to give it to me as I get off the plane, let me off near the front and free up the guy that's standing waiting with it 🤷
Load More Replies...It never made much of a difference to me. We waited. My partner was disabled, and he couldn't move fast. I had to carry all our stuff, and it's always difficult to get stuff out of the overhead when people are already standing in the aisles. It was getting ON that was always the problem. My partner used a walker, so I had all the carry-ons and had to put them in overheads myself. People would get pissed if they had to wait 20 seconds to get their seat, which was reserved anyway. So what's the big deal? They wanted to be the first to get their bags in the overhead compartment. It was always a fight to see who would get the bigger overhead spaces. JHC. I was so happy when we started to fly first class. Expensive, yes, but was so much better for a disabled person. We could board first and get settled before other people. And I could have that mai tai in my hand, while watching people falling over each other to get the best overhead compartment space.
Mostly who cares?? with the exception of those with connecting flights it's not an issue for anyone. He was at the back, literally had one backpack and was ready to go unlike everyone else. So why on Earth does this matter? I've never been on a plane in my life but I would be quite happy to take my time and let everyone else rush off first and I can safely toddle off by myself. This wasn't a British plane was it where we'd all be in line and tutting at the audacity of this usurper?? 🤷🏻♂️🤣🤣
Why did he pick a back seat when he knew he had a connecting flight that was so close together? P**s poor planning.
Load More Replies...I totally agree that you exit according to aisle. I cannot express enough how frustrating it is to have someone standing literally against my seat while I am ready to go also, but waiting until it is my turn. Now I can’t get up because you are in my aisle, and in my way. Just wait your turn. We all get stuck with crappy seats sometimes. It’s simply airplane etiquette.
It seems usually when I land, mostly travel to Asia and if I just have a backpack and the aisle is clear, I go for it.Thwn the noise of 100 people turning their phone back on. I see no problem with this as the people in the middle of the plane aren't ready anyway.
I feel like there should some kinda of order that everyone is called out from people who have connecting flights then people like op Then people who don't have there stuff around them and would have to walk to get them because in every flight I've been on some people are up and get out while others wait but it's not really on order of rows otherwise it would take forever as ofc as many others have stated and I did earlier if someone has there stuff in the over head rooms behind them they then would have to squeeze past a bunch of people
Lol..this 'rule' is clearly American, I have no idea, what the 'issue' is here..the o.p seems fine to me..the 'rule' keepers are the lunatics..lol
This is not a rule or anything except someone made up and a few people think it's the rule of the land. Obviously whoever wrote this article also believes in this imaginary "rule" but they're just another sheep in the world.
I never have a carry on bag so I always try to get an aisle seat as close to the front as I can. Sometimes I can't but I always wait my turn. I am claustrophobic so a long wait always panics me and I use little coping skills. The flight is enough problem for me. I think that passengers with no carryons should exit first.
It's not a rule to push people out of your the way on a sidewalk where yiu are walking. Follow the OPs example and be a kind person because you deserve to force other people to your will, Karen!
Try flying British Airways...if it's nor your turn by row and they see you standing they'll yell at you. That's some rigid but good discipline for respectful in-flight manners which a lot of people overlook. You can advise the crew of your connecting flight but that's it.
She was fine. If I have to grab stuff I was. If I have just a bag in my hands I get up. I will let people in front if they need to cut. Mostly, if I am not in a hurry I will wait. I have been on the plan for hours anyways. Who cares. Plus there are handicapped up front that waits till everyone is off so someone can assist them. First come first serve doesn't make since. If the Is airline says rows blank to blank get up first and then they go down the line, fine. Then it is a rule.
it's politeness, yet, if you got the 1% chance and don't bother others (more than rules fundamentalists), I'd say go for it. usually doesn't happen, but... same "rule" applies to a local connection to bus/ferry, with international connection. so, if te bus stopped, and ppl ges busy, why not get the chance to rush for the exit if you travel light?
Been flying 2-4 times a month (or rather 4-8 since it's back and forth) in the past... ehm cc 10 years I think? Never heard about this "rule" before this subreddit or never met anyone who ever made this into a problem for themselves, or got annoyed that someone gets off 5 seconds earlier than someone else. Is this maybe some weird US thing? Or a low-fair airline thing maybe? Was there an actual rule or commercial over there or something I missed? Because if not, I can't believe WTF is wrong with people? Some groups really miss empathy and common sense so much that they need unwritten social rules in order to be able to get off from a plane in an organized manner? Wtf?
I've been flying since I was a kid in the 70s and 80s and there always seems to be three groups of people: the ones who are in a rush, the ones who don't know that the door doesn't open right away and if you stand up, you're going to be standing awkwardly for a bit, and the ones who know and will wait to deplane. I was kind of trained to wait because I flew as an unaccompanied minor and staid in my seat until I was retrieved. So the plane would taxi into place and stop, but there are things that happen after that and before the doors open. Once the doors open, there may still be a wait because there are often individuals who need assistance deplaning and they go first. Unless you are at risk of missing a connecting flight or a very important event, there really is no point in not waiting for the hurried people to do their rushing while you just get to sit another couple of minutes and not feel the anxiety of getting out with the crowd.
NTA, I think it's weird because they aren't getting off the plan e any sooner that the rest of us. The doors open when they open. But no, NTA
This is why there's so much road rage in our country. People take WVERYTHING personally like their liberties or person is being attacked. It's really simple, just like driving, if there's room and it's not causing g somebody to slam on their breaks (or back up in the plane) then go. If there is no room, then wait. Rushing to the door gains you what, 2 minutes? Just like rushing down the road to a red light...congrats, you got to the stop and wait poi t before I did. It's simple, just be courteous of those around you and not force yourself in between them. And also, don't assume somebody is forcing themselves in front of you simply because they got in front of you. If there's space, then let it go.
This must be a US thing. Y'all find so many things to be petty about, it's insane. Get over yourselves, your ego and entitlement is almost as big as your belly by now.
They leave the seat belt sign on and specifically tell you not to get up until the plane is fully stopped and the sign goes off. So yes, you are a jerk if you get up before that.
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