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“AITA For Telling My Girlfriend She’s Going To Have To Get Over Dirt If She Wants Kids?”
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“AITA For Telling My Girlfriend She’s Going To Have To Get Over Dirt If She Wants Kids?”

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Any parent who says their house is neat, tidy and free of germs and dirt 24/7 either deserves a gold medal. Or they’re lying. Where there are kids, there is chaos. Juice spills on the sofa, muddy footprints across the floor, food on the walls, or worse. Your living quarters will likely never be the same again after you bring new life into this world.

A woman is facing a conundrum with her ‘germaphobe’ girlfriend. The couple really wants to have children but one of them can’t handle dirt or grime. Like not even a speck of it. The more messy of the two has told her better half to get over her fear before even considering becoming a parent. And the proverbial sh*t has now hit the fan.

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    But when one woman reminded her ‘germaphobe’ partner of this, it didn’t go down well

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    Dirt is actually GOOD for children, and here’s why…

    Parents once went to the ends of the earth to keep their kids clean and away from dirt. But research from more recent years shows that doing so can do more harm than good. In fact, getting dirty is great for children. All that mud and soil is packed with germs. And before you turn your nose up, let us explain.

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    We’re talking about good germs, or microorganisms. The type that can train an immune system and build resilience against a range of illnesses or allergies.

    Jack Gilbert is a scientist who studies microbial ecosystems at the University of Chicago. He’s also a dad and the co-author of “Dirt is Good: The Advantage of Germs for Your Child’s Developing Immune System.” Gilbert believes that one of the worst mistakes parents make is keeping their kids too clean.

    “Some of the main things are over-sterilizing their environment, keeping their children from ever getting dirty. So going out into the backyard and playing in the mud, and then as soon as they’re filthy, bringing them in and sterilizing their hands with antiseptic wipes, and then making sure that none of the dirt gets near their faces,” says the expert.

    “Also, keeping them away from animals,” he adds. “The dogs and cats, sure, but also, other animals. It’s fine to wash their hands if there’s a cold or a flu virus around, but if they’re interacting with a dog, and the dog licks their face, that’s not a bad thing. In fact that could be extremely beneficial for the child’s health.”

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    As we explained earlier, the exposure to germs helps build and strengthen the immune system. And Gilbert says this even applies to things we might find gross.

    He also thinks the infamous 5-second rule is rubbish. Because germs attach themselves to things within milliseconds. So what should you do if your baby’s pacifier falls on the floor?

    “Lick it,” advises Gilbert, rather controversially. “A study of over 300,000 children showed that parents who licked the pacifier and put it back in — their kids developed less allergies, less asthma, less eczema. Overall, their health was stronger and more robust.”

    There’s even evidence that playing outdoors, or in the mud, can help fight depression and anxiety. And more…

    The act of moulding and kneading materials like mud or sand can also help children develop the way their senses and movement interact, known as sensorimotor development, says Francesco Vitrano, a child neuropsychiatrist, psychotherapist and lecturer at the University of Palermo, Italy. And this allows the child to gradually understand his or her bodily signals.

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    “A messy kid is a happy kid”: People warned the woman not to have children with her partner

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    Robyn is an award-winning journalist who has produced work for several international media outlets. Made in Africa and exported to the world, she is obsessed with travel and the allure of new places. A lover of words and visuals, Robyn is part of the Bored Panda writing team. This Panda has two bamboo tattoos: A map of Africa & the words "Be Like The Bamboo... Bend Never Break."

    What do you think ?
    Roberta Surprenant
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom's philosophy was "clean enough to be healthy, dirty enough to be happy".

    Stygtand
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Getting dirty as kid is natural and to the best of my knowledge it also helps them further enhance the immune system.

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's also coordination. My sister (mother of two) explained that older babies start feeding themselves by using their hands. Utensils come later. I had a good laugh one day when I visited - one of the kids had pretty much given themselves a facial.

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    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amy is going to create kids with all the allergies because they won't be able to build up immunity in any way. Amy is not ready to have kids. I hope they did get to sit a child so she can see. My best guess however is that this relationship is on its way out.

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This needs to be higher up. Too many kids are getting allergies due to germaphobic parents. And a person who showers 3 times a day is clearly germaphobic, even if they do work in a laboratory.

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    Yrral Spavit
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Step son and wife were going to have a kid. They had a spotless house, everything just so. We offered some advice and tried to prepare them. Oh No, they 'had read up' and it wasn't going to be anything like when we had kids. OK, said no more. Several months after giving birth we get a late night face time. Both on the couch, thousand yard stares with the expected mess around them. Didn't say anything but though 'welcome to parenthood and sleepless nights". Made my black heart smile :P

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Until she starts managing her severe mental illness, she has no business having children. They too will then be afflicted by her severe mental illness and suffer for it and that's not fair to them. Her desire to parent is an entirely selfish one, that refuses to accept the reality of her situation. At the current time, she's not fit to parent.

    arthbach
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a toddler is clean all the time it is a red flag. It is not normal behaviour, and the child will be investigated with regards to possible trauma, abuse or sensory problems. Children have vastly different levels of personal 'dirt'. I was on the much cleaner end of the spectrum than my sibling. They were dirtier than dirt. I enjoyed reading, drawing, writing, crafting and they loved rugby, football, a*****t courses etc. Both levels of dirt were normal, but I still got dirty.

    Paul C
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like Amy really needs to understand what having children is all about. She will wear herself out fighting with children if she thinks she can train them from birth to be clean. I see nothing but disaster for the relationship and future family if she doesn't get a bit more realistic view of the world. How can you train a baby not to have a nappy leak? S**t happens (often several times a day).

    Janissary35680
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People like Amy (an extreme case to be sure) and their attitude are part of the reason why human beings are becoming increasingly more allergic to the planet they live on.

    Jumping Jellyfishes
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to say, once my kids are grown and out of the house, it will be spotless! Well...

    BookFanatic
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a grubby little goblin-girl for my first decade of life. Drove my mom nuts, but my dad thought it was hilarious.

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    Roberta Surprenant
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom's philosophy was "clean enough to be healthy, dirty enough to be happy".

    Stygtand
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Getting dirty as kid is natural and to the best of my knowledge it also helps them further enhance the immune system.

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's also coordination. My sister (mother of two) explained that older babies start feeding themselves by using their hands. Utensils come later. I had a good laugh one day when I visited - one of the kids had pretty much given themselves a facial.

    Load More Replies...
    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amy is going to create kids with all the allergies because they won't be able to build up immunity in any way. Amy is not ready to have kids. I hope they did get to sit a child so she can see. My best guess however is that this relationship is on its way out.

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This needs to be higher up. Too many kids are getting allergies due to germaphobic parents. And a person who showers 3 times a day is clearly germaphobic, even if they do work in a laboratory.

    Load More Replies...
    Yrral Spavit
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Step son and wife were going to have a kid. They had a spotless house, everything just so. We offered some advice and tried to prepare them. Oh No, they 'had read up' and it wasn't going to be anything like when we had kids. OK, said no more. Several months after giving birth we get a late night face time. Both on the couch, thousand yard stares with the expected mess around them. Didn't say anything but though 'welcome to parenthood and sleepless nights". Made my black heart smile :P

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Until she starts managing her severe mental illness, she has no business having children. They too will then be afflicted by her severe mental illness and suffer for it and that's not fair to them. Her desire to parent is an entirely selfish one, that refuses to accept the reality of her situation. At the current time, she's not fit to parent.

    arthbach
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If a toddler is clean all the time it is a red flag. It is not normal behaviour, and the child will be investigated with regards to possible trauma, abuse or sensory problems. Children have vastly different levels of personal 'dirt'. I was on the much cleaner end of the spectrum than my sibling. They were dirtier than dirt. I enjoyed reading, drawing, writing, crafting and they loved rugby, football, a*****t courses etc. Both levels of dirt were normal, but I still got dirty.

    Paul C
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like Amy really needs to understand what having children is all about. She will wear herself out fighting with children if she thinks she can train them from birth to be clean. I see nothing but disaster for the relationship and future family if she doesn't get a bit more realistic view of the world. How can you train a baby not to have a nappy leak? S**t happens (often several times a day).

    Janissary35680
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People like Amy (an extreme case to be sure) and their attitude are part of the reason why human beings are becoming increasingly more allergic to the planet they live on.

    Jumping Jellyfishes
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to say, once my kids are grown and out of the house, it will be spotless! Well...

    BookFanatic
    Community Member
    3 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a grubby little goblin-girl for my first decade of life. Drove my mom nuts, but my dad thought it was hilarious.

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