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Woman Upset Her Seatmate Refused To Shut The Window Shade As They Paid Extra $30 For The Window Seat
Woman Upset Her Seatmate Refused To Shut The Window Shade As They Paid Extra $30 For The Window Seat
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Woman Upset Her Seatmate Refused To Shut The Window Shade As They Paid Extra $30 For The Window Seat

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It’s simply fascinating to see social norms develop in highly social situations.

Take riding the bus, for instance. As most buses have the seats situated in pairs, folks first gravitate towards the completely empty ones, and if there are none left, only then do they start populating the ‘second seats’. Because sitting alone is less awkward than next to a complete stranger.

But other social norms are not as clear-cut or obvious to some. Like who owns the window in a window seat on an airplane? Is it something all of the passengers in the aisle can control, or is it exclusively under the jurisdiction of the person in the window seat?

A conflict of interest (if you can call it a conflict per se) regarding a window seat happened not too long ago. It all ended in the conclusion that he who sat at the window shall be in control, but not without turning into an am I being unreasonable? situation first.

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    Question time. Who’s in control of the window shade—the person in the window seat, or anyone in that row, or…?

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    We got a short one for you folks.

    A Redditor has not too long ago turned to the r/AITA community for some perspective on an issue he faced. In particular, OP enjoys watching the sky and everything around it while on a flight. For this reason, he goes out of his way to get a window seat. Plus the sunshine does wonders for the skin and just feels awesome.

    So, OP was on a plane—one where the seats are situated in rows of 3—and as he approached, he noticed a lady already in one of the seats in his row. For context, his seat was the window one, the middle one was vacant, and the lady was in the seat adjacent to the walkway.

    This guy recently had to deal with some snarkiness from a fellow passenger over a window shade after he politely refused to close it

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    Image credits: ExxoticD

    As soon as he asked the lady to scooch a bit for a second so he could reach his seat, she sighed. Sounded like one of those sarcastic I hate it here sighs. OP wasn’t sure why, so he moved on with life.

    Not even 10 minutes into the flight, OP was resting his head on the table that pulls down from the front seat, listening to music, enjoying the view and the sun, and the lady tapped him on shoulder and spoke up. She asked if he could shut the window shade.

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    Being the sky-gazer that he is, OP politely declined the offer, explaining that the whole reason he bought the window seat (mind you, this luxury cost him an extra $30) was so that he could look out the window. She let out an exaggerated sigh, a huge one.

    Image credits: ExxoticD

    Image credits: Jeffry Surianto (not the actual photo)

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    Now, it is understandable why she asked—OP explained it was a 7AM flight, and the morning sun was right there outside the window, raining hell on every vampire who failed to retreat into a coffin and irritating everyone who’s not a fan.

    The whole confrontation ended in OP returning to his music and basking in solar glory for an entire 2 hours. But the lady’s dissatisfaction made him ponder his decision. His view was that he bought the window seat so that he could enjoy the view and all of its gifts. The lady could have done the same. This is besides him paying extra.

    And so he passed this question onto the Am I The A-Hole community. And, for the most part, folks did not see anyone being a jerk. Sure, there was some tension, but nobody really overstepped the boundaries. OP was polite, the lady, albeit sarcastic, did not cause a ruckus or overreact. So, nobody’s a jerk.

    Folks online were mostly of the opinion that nobody was a jerk in this situation because nobody really crossed any line

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    But it did raise the question of who’s actually in control of the window included in the “window seat” deal. According to Ben Schlappig, a frequent flier with over 4.7 million miles flown already, the tl;dr answer to the question is yes, the person in the window seat controls the window.

    The long answer, though, is that the concept of a window seat is complex and there are many nuances to consider. The key factor here is what he calls the golden rule: “if the person seated next to you asks politely for the window shade to be lowered, and has a legitimate reason, consider compromising.” Because nobody likes a jerk.

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    But there are other factors to consider: getting aggressive and confrontational is the worst idea to have on a plane; sometimes closing the shade is for the greater good because folks want to sleep; sometimes the flight attendant can override your power and just shut it for whatever reason; and sometimes, if the plane is technologically advanced, the windows might dim on their own.

    But back to the story. It got some modest upvotage and attention, but enough to be picked up by a couple of online news sites. You can read it on Reddit, but not without sharing your window seat stories, or your opinions, or the best thing you’ve ever seen through a plane window. Do that in the comment section below!

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    K Ann
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The person who said YTA and the aisle seat should control the aisle ... erm did they person pay an extra 30 for an aisle seat? Guessing no! It's extra for a window and that's why the window belongs to that seat!!!!! Jeeeeez

    Shiloh Casey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people, like me, have to have it open due to a fear of flying. It helps with anxiety

    𝕜𝕣𝕚𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕟ᴛʜᴇ𝕜𝕚𝕕𝕕
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've said that too once I had to go to Florida and I wanted to see everything that was going on. When I told people that they were like, "wouldn't that make it worse, seeing how high up you are?" Nopen

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    Kristin Malliet
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe the other passenger is a vampire, in which case she will burn up in direct sunlight.

    Kiss Army
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like to sleep on flights so I bring an eye mask with me to take care of my own comfort. They can do anything with the window shade they want...

    Mari Scott
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look at you being sensible and personally responsible! Ya love to see it.

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    jade s
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think anyone was the AH here. Both were polite, decisions were respected. If I was in the aisle seat and had been up since early hours I probably would have asked as well. If the answer is no then fine but there's no harm in asking. And sighing is a normal response to a frustrating circumstance and doesn't need to be taken as an affront or way to get her own way. It's an "oh gosh, I've had less than 2 hrs sleep, just sat down and now I have to get up again" sigh. Or a sigh of defeat that I thought I might catch up with a little nap but doesn't look like that's happening now. Lastly, would only be the AH if the sun was directly in her eyes. That is bloody uncomfortable and if the case then it wouldn't have taken much for you to pull it down half way and still get some sun yourself with your head on the table in front. I wouldn't be mean enough to subject someone to that because they couldn't afford upgraded seats.

    Eric Yoder
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    3 years ago

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    They make masks to cover ones eyes that she could buy at the dollar store. She sounds republican. They own everything and everyone don't you know?

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    martin734
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want to control the window blind pay for a window seat, otherwise use an eye mask.

    Ugh_What_Now
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean, if airlines CHARGE AN ADDITIONAL FEE for the window seat specifically... the question kind of answers itself. The window comes with the seat. Yeah, you don't have to be a d**k about it... but this guy wasn't. So NTA. 🤷‍♀️

    Jeff Lum
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    3 years ago

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    The fee isn't for a window seat. The fee is for the ability to choose a specific seat.

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    Deidre Goodluck
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As far as I'm concerned if it's daytime the window stays open. It really annoys me when cabin staff force everyone to pull the blind down because they want people to sleep or whatever. I want natural light when it's available. If you want to sleep wear an eye mask.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay extra for a window seat so that I can see out the window, have a surface to lean against if I fall asleep and mostly not to have to get up every time one of my seat mates needs to get up.

    Aisling Raye
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Has no one heard of plane etiquette? Window seat gets window and one arm rest, middle gets two arm rests, aisle gets one arm rest and maybe a bit of extra leg room. The lady that asked about the window was fine in doing so but the gal with the window seat was well within her right to say no. This is so easily a NAH situation.

    hhh cubed
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you! I am surprised that this isn't widely understood flight etiquette. It seems common sense and not unreasonable.

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    K Ann
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The person who said YTA and the aisle seat should control the aisle ... erm did they person pay an extra 30 for an aisle seat? Guessing no! It's extra for a window and that's why the window belongs to that seat!!!!! Jeeeeez

    Shiloh Casey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people, like me, have to have it open due to a fear of flying. It helps with anxiety

    𝕜𝕣𝕚𝕤𝕥𝕖𝕟ᴛʜᴇ𝕜𝕚𝕕𝕕
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've said that too once I had to go to Florida and I wanted to see everything that was going on. When I told people that they were like, "wouldn't that make it worse, seeing how high up you are?" Nopen

    Load More Replies...
    Kristin Malliet
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe the other passenger is a vampire, in which case she will burn up in direct sunlight.

    Kiss Army
    Community Member
    Premium
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like to sleep on flights so I bring an eye mask with me to take care of my own comfort. They can do anything with the window shade they want...

    Mari Scott
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look at you being sensible and personally responsible! Ya love to see it.

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    jade s
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think anyone was the AH here. Both were polite, decisions were respected. If I was in the aisle seat and had been up since early hours I probably would have asked as well. If the answer is no then fine but there's no harm in asking. And sighing is a normal response to a frustrating circumstance and doesn't need to be taken as an affront or way to get her own way. It's an "oh gosh, I've had less than 2 hrs sleep, just sat down and now I have to get up again" sigh. Or a sigh of defeat that I thought I might catch up with a little nap but doesn't look like that's happening now. Lastly, would only be the AH if the sun was directly in her eyes. That is bloody uncomfortable and if the case then it wouldn't have taken much for you to pull it down half way and still get some sun yourself with your head on the table in front. I wouldn't be mean enough to subject someone to that because they couldn't afford upgraded seats.

    Eric Yoder
    Community Member
    3 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    They make masks to cover ones eyes that she could buy at the dollar store. She sounds republican. They own everything and everyone don't you know?

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    martin734
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want to control the window blind pay for a window seat, otherwise use an eye mask.

    Ugh_What_Now
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean, if airlines CHARGE AN ADDITIONAL FEE for the window seat specifically... the question kind of answers itself. The window comes with the seat. Yeah, you don't have to be a d**k about it... but this guy wasn't. So NTA. 🤷‍♀️

    Jeff Lum
    Community Member
    3 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    The fee isn't for a window seat. The fee is for the ability to choose a specific seat.

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    Deidre Goodluck
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As far as I'm concerned if it's daytime the window stays open. It really annoys me when cabin staff force everyone to pull the blind down because they want people to sleep or whatever. I want natural light when it's available. If you want to sleep wear an eye mask.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay extra for a window seat so that I can see out the window, have a surface to lean against if I fall asleep and mostly not to have to get up every time one of my seat mates needs to get up.

    Aisling Raye
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Has no one heard of plane etiquette? Window seat gets window and one arm rest, middle gets two arm rests, aisle gets one arm rest and maybe a bit of extra leg room. The lady that asked about the window was fine in doing so but the gal with the window seat was well within her right to say no. This is so easily a NAH situation.

    hhh cubed
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you! I am surprised that this isn't widely understood flight etiquette. It seems common sense and not unreasonable.

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