Worker Says They Lie About Camping To Set Boundaries Whilst On Vacation, Prompts Others To Share Their Tricks
There is probably nothing more rewarding than having a good long vacation after a rough and exhausting time at work. Being able to spend time with your family and friends doing something fun or even going on a trip is something that a lot of people look forward to. But what if your dream holidays get interrupted by a demanding boss or lost colleagues? Even though they might take only 5 minutes of your time (which is never 5 minutes), it still feels like the mood has instantly changed and all the worries and stress that you were hoping to run away from are once again back.
This is not acceptable and users of the Antiwork subreddit know it. This is why user @u/birdlawyer213 decided to share a comment written by a person who had a perfect way out of unnecessary communication with colleagues during their time off.
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A lot of us value our vacation time as it means that we get that sweet time spent by doing something fun
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The person in question shared that for a while now, they’ve been telling their coworkers that during their vacation, they’re going on a camping trip, so that they would assume that the employee is somewhere where the connection is limited or they’re so busy camping that they won’t be able to take a call or attend an important meeting. The author of the comment revealed that in their coworkers’ eyes they seem like a person who just loves outdoor activities. But this, however, isn’t their biggest concern. What they are afraid of is that the company might actually hire someone who is a camping enthusiast that will blow their cover. The user even shared that they do spend some time outside to take pictures to show to the interested colleagues.
This might sound like a fun cover that helps to avoid being disturbed during vacation time, but it also uncovers a serious problem of breaking boundaries regarding a person’s time off. This shared post encouraged others to share what they think about the problem and reveal what “techniques” they use in order to avoid unexpected calls from work. Some people asked to be paid for the time they spent working, while others decided to just simply ignore any attempts someone from work made to contact them or let others know that they would be traveling somewhere very far away.
Reddit user decided to share how they’ve lied for years to get away from being contacted by coworkers during their time off
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Bored Panda contacted Jayne Hardy, a founder of The Blurt Foundation, an enterprise that is dedicated to helping those who battle depression, to find out more insights on setting boundaries at work. Is it really easier to lie about your vacation plans than actually admit that you want time off and not be bothered by your colleagues? The specialist revealed that this situation is more common than we think. “I’m not at all surprised that some people find it easier to lie about their out-of-work activities than to create limits around their availability. It’s understandable why people might communicate their want to be unavailable on something you seemingly have no control over – like being away off-grid – rather than express their desire and need to enjoy non-work time uninterrupted,” – explained Hardy.
The woman continued by sharing why it’s important to resist such behavior: “It’s difficult to stand up to ingrained workplace cultures and doing so can sometimes lead to undesired consequences if the workplace has a particularly toxic burnout culture. But we do all deserve and need non-work time. Space where we’re not accessible and that lightening of the mental load when we put our work-related responsibilities down. A chance to have fun, unwind and recharge without the added worry that we’ll be caught out on a lie any time soon.”
The person revealed that they would say to their coworkers that they were going camping when in fact they spent time at a hotel
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Some people were curious to know why employees feel the need to be available during their vacation. While we do talk quite often about finding the right balance between work and life, it’s easier said than done. According to Hardy, it’s not “possible to completely compartmentalize work from our personal life; if only we had a magical switch that could totally turn off all thoughts of work when we’re not there and vice versa. But, there is an, often unspoken but heavily implied, pressure in some workplaces that we’ll be available at any time on any given day.” So setting boundaries often goes out the window because a person is too invested in a project and wants to know what’s going on or make sure that the work that they put in won’t go to waste. Some of them might feel obligated to help others or know that without their expertise nothing will move forward. Very often people fear being replaced or fired. However, setting healthy work boundaries is crucial for one’s well-being.
This little “trick” encouraged others online to share their opinion on the matter and also reveal their own experiences
Recently society was presented with a phenomenon called “quiet quitting” which appears when a burned-out employee lacks motivation and decides not to go that extra mile to achieve better results. One of the factors that lead to quiet quitting is not being able to find a balance between your work and personal life.
How can you help yourself in this case? What are some of the ways to have those boundaries in place? The creator of The Blurt Foundation revealed some useful advice that should help set clear work boundaries. The woman shared that the best thing is to “start with terms of your engagement. What’s actually in your employment contract (if you have one)? Because that’s a legal document which in the first instance was designed to manage mutual expectations in the role – a list of terms and conditions from both sides.” The specialist also added that this document helps us to see what kind of expectations we tend to put on ourselves already and how different they might be from what we were originally assigned to do.
The reactions from users online showed how serious of a problem not being able to set proper work boundaries is
It’s helpful to determine some of the things or people in your workplace that cause you stress because this is where you have to start setting boundaries to avoid feeling anxious. “Communication is always key too; that it’s clear, concise, and honest. We’re allowed to seek clarity for ourselves. We’re also allowed to set reasonable limits around our work but communicating those is also key,” explained Hardy. Set clear limits: have clear working hours after which you close the office door and go enjoy your free time with family and friends, and turn all of the notifications on your phone and laptop. Don’t be afraid to let others know about your “rules”, and share this in advance if someone wants to contact you during your time off. It’s also crucial to assess your own abilities and see if you really have the time to do all the things you need/want to do. Maybe you need more people for this task or more time? This helps to avoid being overwhelmed and feeling as if you need time off just to keep up with your workload. “The more consistent we can be with these boundaries and the more upfront we are when they’re encroached upon, the easier they get with time,” concluded the founder.
Some people even remembered times when going to another country did wonders and solved the problem of not wanting to be contacted
Have you ever met a person that seems always to say “yes”? Maybe you are that person? One of the ways to have a healthy relationship with work is to really think about what you’ve been asked to do and be okay with saying “no” if you feel that you won’t be able to deliver that extra work on time. Do you have more useful tips that would help others to have a normal relationship with your job? Don’t forget to leave your thoughts in the comments down below!
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I don't know a single person who takes work calls or checks emails outside of work hours. We are all outdoorsy people so most days will be out of phone recpetion. One of my mates deals with multi million dollar clients and even he is never expected to be within reach outside of hours or on his holidays, he just makes sure that all his things are in order before going on holidays. But then we also don't live in the usa so work life balance is a thing.
I'm in Ireland. Workers rights are very strong here. I've only once ever taken work related calls whilst on holiday. First was when I was told I needed to be in the next day for a mandatory meeting. Took me stating I wasn't in the country for them to agree I was OK not to show. Then we arranged a call for after the meeting, so I could be given an update of what it was about. I scheduled it for an awkward time on their part, because I wasn't giving up the time I was out enjoying myself for work. They could have the time when I was travelling back to my hotel, or when I was back there chilling before going to dinner. My dad regularly sees work emails on his phone, even when on holiday. It's good to know if there are serious issues and he is needed, but 99% of the time, such emails get ignored. That 1% is for things like "help, the building went on fire. Do you have a back up copy of X?"
Load More Replies...No one should have to lie about their vacation to actually be on vacation. Boundaries.
I have always found it very to stick to boundaries while on holiday and it is quite simple. If i am on holiday work is ignored until I am not on holiday. I don't have to make up a reason why I can't be contacted, my holiday is the reason. The same applies when I finish work at the end of the day, when I am not at work my time is my own.
As the owner of my company, I don't get "true" vacation days. Sure, my 2 employees can handle jobs without me, but if an issue pops up, I need to be a call away. But I will say this, I will never call either employee on their time off unless 1 is unavailable and I'm dying. But should the need to ever arise, they both know they will be paid from the moment I click the "send call" button.
I own a very small service provider business. I have 2 CASUAL employees. The nature of their employment is on call / undetermined scheduling and hours. My helpers are actually looking for this type of flexibility. Because of the quirkiness of scheduling, & minimal hours offered, I try to compensate them well . They do not work weekends or holidays. Their reimbursement equates to 30% more ( net ) than minimum wage. 90% of the time, they know their schedule 14 days in advance. The shifts are never more than 10 hours ( including travel time + breaks ), & they are paid from the time they leave their front door, til they return . Their transportation & lunch is provided. They only do the safer / easier aspects of our services. I NEVER ask them to do anything that I can do myself. They are expected to do their jobs conscientiously, to be truthful, and kind. They will be fired if they don't. But in over 25 years of business, I have been blessed with LONG TERM loyal people
Load More Replies...I went into my most recent job from a position where my off time was protected and guarded for me by my boss. We highly respected each other. In my most recent job, I noticed new boss tended to call me at home, on my days off, on vacation, to ask me for info he’d already been given because I had taken care of it before I left. So not only did he not respect the boundaries of work/life balance, he clearly wasn’t doing his job since he wasn’t reading his email. As it became clear to him that I did not appreciate being disturbed on my off times, he stopped doing it but he had his ways of getting payback. He very clearly flavored the other managers over me and gave me the worst schedule, the worst assignments, the worst reviews, never listened to my suggestions and still acted like I was a newbie even though I had proven I had mastered the job. So even though he stopped bothering me, he made me pay in other ways. My only regret is that I did not report him to HR before I got laid off!
Unfortunately, here in the USA we are expected to be dedicated robots with no lives other than to work for pennies and do what I like to call "eat sh!t with a smile" 24/7. They expect you to be available whether you're on vacation or just having a day off. If you say no they berate you about how you need to be more dedicated or a team player. Forget asking for a raise when you decide to be a dedicated team player! The repercussion is a lecture about how you just gotta do the job for the love of it or how you don't go above and beyond enough or they throw it in your face about that one time you weren't available to cover someone's shift! It's b.s! Hard working people are getting raked over the coals over here and we aren't even paid a living wage. Most people feel like they have to be accommodating to being a work horse or lose a job they literally depend on or end up homeless. 😩😢
Canada is getting like this also. We blindly follow America regardless of the good or bad it seems.
Load More Replies...I took a day off a few weeks ago on a Monday just for the hell of it. I planned on sleeping in. But right at 9 am my cell phone rang followed by my office phone. (I work at home) It was one of my staff members. I texted back and said "unless someone is bleeding or on fire you need to deal with whatever is going on." Followed an hour later by MY boss calling and apologizing, but asking me to log on and fix something on the website. It definitely was NOT an emergency and if they had thought about it a little more they could have done it themselves. God forbid I get hit by a car or drop dead! They'll probably just grab a Ouija board so they can contact my ghost to fix whatever's wrong!
Before I leave for vacation, I write e-mails with links to cloud documents of everything I'm doing and how to do everything. I then disappear. Its my time. I had a new boss reply to the e-mail saying "you don't need to write a book, they could call me". I didn't take my phone and stated in the first sentence of the e-mail I wasn't taking it. They didn't read it so they ended up having a mild emergency and tried to write me up. Bullet point 1 was instructions to do the thing that would have prevented the emergency and a link to the document explaining the steps to do it. Unfortunately for them, their boss always asked to be cc'd on OOO notices because they were usually the first one called when things went bad and they know who else to call instead of wasting time. I showed my boss the logs and they changed their mind when they noticed their boss's name on all the activities to fix the problem.
I'm too connected to work. I check my email and texts from the moment I wake up until I lay my head down on the pillow. One of the joys of running a company with people on two continents. When I need to disconnect I go hiking where there is limited reception or take a cruise. This year I went on a Civil War history vacation and was answering emails and texting on Little Round Top. I'm such an idiot.
I don't know a single person who takes work calls or checks emails outside of work hours. We are all outdoorsy people so most days will be out of phone recpetion. One of my mates deals with multi million dollar clients and even he is never expected to be within reach outside of hours or on his holidays, he just makes sure that all his things are in order before going on holidays. But then we also don't live in the usa so work life balance is a thing.
I'm in Ireland. Workers rights are very strong here. I've only once ever taken work related calls whilst on holiday. First was when I was told I needed to be in the next day for a mandatory meeting. Took me stating I wasn't in the country for them to agree I was OK not to show. Then we arranged a call for after the meeting, so I could be given an update of what it was about. I scheduled it for an awkward time on their part, because I wasn't giving up the time I was out enjoying myself for work. They could have the time when I was travelling back to my hotel, or when I was back there chilling before going to dinner. My dad regularly sees work emails on his phone, even when on holiday. It's good to know if there are serious issues and he is needed, but 99% of the time, such emails get ignored. That 1% is for things like "help, the building went on fire. Do you have a back up copy of X?"
Load More Replies...No one should have to lie about their vacation to actually be on vacation. Boundaries.
I have always found it very to stick to boundaries while on holiday and it is quite simple. If i am on holiday work is ignored until I am not on holiday. I don't have to make up a reason why I can't be contacted, my holiday is the reason. The same applies when I finish work at the end of the day, when I am not at work my time is my own.
As the owner of my company, I don't get "true" vacation days. Sure, my 2 employees can handle jobs without me, but if an issue pops up, I need to be a call away. But I will say this, I will never call either employee on their time off unless 1 is unavailable and I'm dying. But should the need to ever arise, they both know they will be paid from the moment I click the "send call" button.
I own a very small service provider business. I have 2 CASUAL employees. The nature of their employment is on call / undetermined scheduling and hours. My helpers are actually looking for this type of flexibility. Because of the quirkiness of scheduling, & minimal hours offered, I try to compensate them well . They do not work weekends or holidays. Their reimbursement equates to 30% more ( net ) than minimum wage. 90% of the time, they know their schedule 14 days in advance. The shifts are never more than 10 hours ( including travel time + breaks ), & they are paid from the time they leave their front door, til they return . Their transportation & lunch is provided. They only do the safer / easier aspects of our services. I NEVER ask them to do anything that I can do myself. They are expected to do their jobs conscientiously, to be truthful, and kind. They will be fired if they don't. But in over 25 years of business, I have been blessed with LONG TERM loyal people
Load More Replies...I went into my most recent job from a position where my off time was protected and guarded for me by my boss. We highly respected each other. In my most recent job, I noticed new boss tended to call me at home, on my days off, on vacation, to ask me for info he’d already been given because I had taken care of it before I left. So not only did he not respect the boundaries of work/life balance, he clearly wasn’t doing his job since he wasn’t reading his email. As it became clear to him that I did not appreciate being disturbed on my off times, he stopped doing it but he had his ways of getting payback. He very clearly flavored the other managers over me and gave me the worst schedule, the worst assignments, the worst reviews, never listened to my suggestions and still acted like I was a newbie even though I had proven I had mastered the job. So even though he stopped bothering me, he made me pay in other ways. My only regret is that I did not report him to HR before I got laid off!
Unfortunately, here in the USA we are expected to be dedicated robots with no lives other than to work for pennies and do what I like to call "eat sh!t with a smile" 24/7. They expect you to be available whether you're on vacation or just having a day off. If you say no they berate you about how you need to be more dedicated or a team player. Forget asking for a raise when you decide to be a dedicated team player! The repercussion is a lecture about how you just gotta do the job for the love of it or how you don't go above and beyond enough or they throw it in your face about that one time you weren't available to cover someone's shift! It's b.s! Hard working people are getting raked over the coals over here and we aren't even paid a living wage. Most people feel like they have to be accommodating to being a work horse or lose a job they literally depend on or end up homeless. 😩😢
Canada is getting like this also. We blindly follow America regardless of the good or bad it seems.
Load More Replies...I took a day off a few weeks ago on a Monday just for the hell of it. I planned on sleeping in. But right at 9 am my cell phone rang followed by my office phone. (I work at home) It was one of my staff members. I texted back and said "unless someone is bleeding or on fire you need to deal with whatever is going on." Followed an hour later by MY boss calling and apologizing, but asking me to log on and fix something on the website. It definitely was NOT an emergency and if they had thought about it a little more they could have done it themselves. God forbid I get hit by a car or drop dead! They'll probably just grab a Ouija board so they can contact my ghost to fix whatever's wrong!
Before I leave for vacation, I write e-mails with links to cloud documents of everything I'm doing and how to do everything. I then disappear. Its my time. I had a new boss reply to the e-mail saying "you don't need to write a book, they could call me". I didn't take my phone and stated in the first sentence of the e-mail I wasn't taking it. They didn't read it so they ended up having a mild emergency and tried to write me up. Bullet point 1 was instructions to do the thing that would have prevented the emergency and a link to the document explaining the steps to do it. Unfortunately for them, their boss always asked to be cc'd on OOO notices because they were usually the first one called when things went bad and they know who else to call instead of wasting time. I showed my boss the logs and they changed their mind when they noticed their boss's name on all the activities to fix the problem.
I'm too connected to work. I check my email and texts from the moment I wake up until I lay my head down on the pillow. One of the joys of running a company with people on two continents. When I need to disconnect I go hiking where there is limited reception or take a cruise. This year I went on a Civil War history vacation and was answering emails and texting on Little Round Top. I'm such an idiot.






















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