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Toxic Boss Gets Put In Their Place After Trying To Deny Their Employee’s Resignation
Toxic Boss Gets Put In Their Place After Trying To Deny Their Employee’s Resignation
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Toxic Boss Gets Put In Their Place After Trying To Deny Their Employee’s Resignation

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The gist of any employment contract boils down to the rights, duties, and rules that both the employee and employer agree upon. And if something needs to be changed, both have to consent to it.

But there are a few things that can be done unilaterally, without needing the other party to agree to it, given that certain (often minimal) conditions are met. This includes, among other things, quitting.

However, some employers still try to play the objection! card and insist on refusing to satisfy the employee’s request to leave the company, despite all conditions being met.

One such story recently surfaced on Reddit, sparking reactions and discussions.

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    The story goes that this one Redditor tried to quit their job. The job is in a medical office, an entry level position, not licensed or the like. But instead of responses like “oh, that’s a shame, when are you thinking of leaving?” or “how come? Is it something we can help with and improve upon?”, they were hit with a “no.” Not in that specific wording, but definitely in the spirit of it.

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    OP shared a screenshot of the employer’s response following their formal resignation. The employer claimed that OP had actually agreed to stay with the company for a year starting back in March of 2022. OP was surprised to learn about this stipulation, and they agreed to no such thing, so they immediately got in touch with a friend who’s fluent in legalese for help.

    A Redditor shared how their resignation was not accepted by the employer, implying they have to finish their 1-year commitment

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    The two read through every document OP signed and nothing stated that they had to work that particular period of time. The employer, however, noted that this stipulation was agreed upon during the interview, which OP confirmed vaguely remembering once being reminded, but then it does beg the question if this clause is so crucial, why wasn’t it in the contract in the first place?

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    Regardless, OP came back saying that they won’t be able to stay until March because they got hired by another employer starting February. Given that they were an “employee at will” and had met the 4-weeks-prior notice requirement, their departure was inevitable at this point.

    The employee provided a polite response, explaining how they don’t really have to, let alone are obligated to meet the employer’s demands

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    This did not stop the employer from pulling more tricks from up their sleeve, confirming that they are in fact correct about the whole at-will employee and there being no legal penalties part, but leaving without having stayed there for a year will “deem [them] as ineligible to be rehired” and it may also affect their future employment opportunities should anyone contact the company for a reference.

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    Bored Panda got in touch with OP, who provided more context and perspective on the issue:

    “I don’t think them wanting to keep me on board had anything to do with me, in a way. The company has a high turnover rate. It’s an entry level position that’s intended as a stepping stone for people looking to get a higher education and job in the medical field.”

    “That combined with the fact that they pay poorly, people obviously don’t like to stay very long. I imagine that my boss was just told they had to keep people on for at least a year and not given the freedom to make changes that would encourage people to want to stay.”

    To top it all off, they were also named employee of the year, which in light of everything up to this was nothing but random, but they explained that these two streams of communication weren’t related

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    Given all of this tension, it was surprising to see yet another, but final, update to this story. OP shared another screenshot of an email congratulating them for becoming employee of the year. This seems like a case of mixed signals, but OP clarified in our interview that these were two separate streams of communication, uncoordinated and hence not a deliberate attempt at keeping OP on board given the context.

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    “I think the employee of the year thing is genuine. That email skipped my boss and came straight from the CEO. It was given to 6 people across several states, and came with a bonus. It wouldn’t make sense to me if it was anything other than real, and my causing problems probably happened after it was decided and didn’t reach the CEO.”

    Folks online were quick to point out the need to read the contract and generating a conversation on how to approach it

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    After all of this, the employer seems to have backed off on the matter. OP explained that there hasn’t been any more communication after the last congratulatory screenshot on Reddit, yet having received the schedule for February, they noticed that they weren’t on it. So, we can only assume the employer accepted it.

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    Now, the technicalities and legalities of whether employers have the right to deny someone resignation are not that well documented, but the general consensus seems to be not really, unless the contract states otherwise.

    In most cases, employment is treated on an “at will” basis, meaning leave if you wish. There can be stipulations in place to make sure there’s proper notice and the work is done in full, but outside that, quitting is definite.

    The question has been discussed in various ways and all of them were resolved one way or another with the employee and employer parting ways in the end without actual penalizing repercussions. But that doesn’t mean people shouldn’t be aware of the clauses in the contract that may or may not make quitting difficult.

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    And many commenters seconded that. In fact, so many people asked whether the contract details this one-year clause at all, pointing out other details and suggestions (including suggestions for malicious compliance) along the way that OP had to post an additional comment to clear some things up.

    All three posts collectively have managed to garner over 120,000 upvotes with a dozen Reddit awards, and was even reposted in several locations.

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    OP did admit that they have some reservations following these posts, namely because of how much attention they got and how a part of the internet took it the wrong way, despite it being just people doing their jobs rather than actually being corporately evil about it all:

    “My second Reddit post has been viewed over 14 million times, with thousands of comments, and that’s not including all the places it was reposted. My boss is around the same age as me. I think it’s hard to imagine they haven’t seen it. A lot of those comments are extremely rude. I understand why, there’s a lot of frustration with employment and bosses, but I just found the whole thing kind of humorous. I always imagined my boss as not much different from me, just trying to keep their job by doing what was asked. I don’t think a policy like this was their idea, and I hope they haven’t read the comments on my post from people who don’t know any better.”

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    But r/AntiWork is more than just a place for labor-themed catharsis. It’s also a place to generate a conversation and to make a difference. And every story is valid to make a change where change is overdue. In fact, you can start making a change right here and right now in the comment section below!

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    Robert T
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless it says it it a contract you have signed, it ain't happening. Case in point is my gf resigning from her job of 12 years and them wanting 3 months notice (1 week per year worked). For a cleaning job! I've had to give less notice as a critical part of an IT team! Contract stated 2 weeks, they got 2 weeks! New job had an interesting clause in it's contract that they will deduct the cost of the CRB check (criminal record check for working in a care environment) if she resigns within 6 months. Notice period I think was 4 weeks. In the UK it is pretty rare to have anything longer than a month's notice for anything but very senior positions.

    Khavrinen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd say, since you already have a new job, just call in "sick" every single morning until they get tired of having to answer the phone.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was thinking something along the same lines. As well as, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I can't quit? Then you can't fire me. I'm not feeling well, I'll be out from 2/1 until 3/6 at which time I quit. As for references, I don't know of a single employer that calls a previous company for a reference. One, by law in most states (if not all), they're not allowed to bad mouth you, obviously opens them up for a liable suit.

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    Michał Osiecki
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So where is the "boss gets put in their place" part?

    Terry Tobias
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the "1year clause" isn't written in the contract, they can't enforce it. Anything that the parties want must be included within the four corners of the contract. Just mentioning it in the interview means nothing. It's like a tenant asking their landlord if they can paint their apartment. The landlord says "sure" but they don't memorialize this in the lease. In fact, the lease states that the tenant is not allowed to make any changes in the apartment and will be charged if they do. So the tenant has an OK from the landlord and thinking they're good to go, they paint the apartment. After a couple of years, the tenant decides to buy a house and gives the landlord the necessary notice that they'll be moving out. After the walk through everything seems fine, but when the tenant gets their security deposit back, there's money missing. The landlord reminds the tenant of the "no changes" clause and that there's nothing in it allowing painting. So legally, the tenant is out of luck.

    Vivian Ashe
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just an intimidation tactic. The employer is basically just saying they won't provide a reference if the employee quits. The employee already has another job lined up, so that doesn't matter. I wouldn't let the old employer know where the new job is, though... just in case they get vindictive and reach out to the new employer to badmouth her.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If any future employer wants a reference from this company, just show them these letters to explain why they won't get one. And as far as being ineligible to be rehired here - "If you accept this pardon from the governor, you will be ineligible to be executed in this state now and forever."

    Oerff On Tour
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It never fails to amaze me, that employees in the US have no laws to protect them

    Dekker451
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not exactly true. While there are certainly fewer employment regulations than many other countries, there are a few such laws, such as the National Labor Relations Act of 1935.

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    Silre
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You will be ineligible to be rehired". I don't care.

    Cyber Returns
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of these kinds of clauses can't be enforced as they are deemed unreasonable. I hope it goes to court and the judge rules in your favour dumping them with the legal fees, a warning and compensation to be paid to you for 3 times what you would have been paid if you had 'completed the contract' as well as your immediate resignation being accepted

    Argie Smith
    Community Member
    Premium
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's retaliatory behavior!

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    Robert T
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless it says it it a contract you have signed, it ain't happening. Case in point is my gf resigning from her job of 12 years and them wanting 3 months notice (1 week per year worked). For a cleaning job! I've had to give less notice as a critical part of an IT team! Contract stated 2 weeks, they got 2 weeks! New job had an interesting clause in it's contract that they will deduct the cost of the CRB check (criminal record check for working in a care environment) if she resigns within 6 months. Notice period I think was 4 weeks. In the UK it is pretty rare to have anything longer than a month's notice for anything but very senior positions.

    Khavrinen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd say, since you already have a new job, just call in "sick" every single morning until they get tired of having to answer the phone.

    Seadog
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was thinking something along the same lines. As well as, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I can't quit? Then you can't fire me. I'm not feeling well, I'll be out from 2/1 until 3/6 at which time I quit. As for references, I don't know of a single employer that calls a previous company for a reference. One, by law in most states (if not all), they're not allowed to bad mouth you, obviously opens them up for a liable suit.

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    Michał Osiecki
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So where is the "boss gets put in their place" part?

    Terry Tobias
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the "1year clause" isn't written in the contract, they can't enforce it. Anything that the parties want must be included within the four corners of the contract. Just mentioning it in the interview means nothing. It's like a tenant asking their landlord if they can paint their apartment. The landlord says "sure" but they don't memorialize this in the lease. In fact, the lease states that the tenant is not allowed to make any changes in the apartment and will be charged if they do. So the tenant has an OK from the landlord and thinking they're good to go, they paint the apartment. After a couple of years, the tenant decides to buy a house and gives the landlord the necessary notice that they'll be moving out. After the walk through everything seems fine, but when the tenant gets their security deposit back, there's money missing. The landlord reminds the tenant of the "no changes" clause and that there's nothing in it allowing painting. So legally, the tenant is out of luck.

    Vivian Ashe
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just an intimidation tactic. The employer is basically just saying they won't provide a reference if the employee quits. The employee already has another job lined up, so that doesn't matter. I wouldn't let the old employer know where the new job is, though... just in case they get vindictive and reach out to the new employer to badmouth her.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If any future employer wants a reference from this company, just show them these letters to explain why they won't get one. And as far as being ineligible to be rehired here - "If you accept this pardon from the governor, you will be ineligible to be executed in this state now and forever."

    Oerff On Tour
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It never fails to amaze me, that employees in the US have no laws to protect them

    Dekker451
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not exactly true. While there are certainly fewer employment regulations than many other countries, there are a few such laws, such as the National Labor Relations Act of 1935.

    Load More Replies...
    Silre
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You will be ineligible to be rehired". I don't care.

    Cyber Returns
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A lot of these kinds of clauses can't be enforced as they are deemed unreasonable. I hope it goes to court and the judge rules in your favour dumping them with the legal fees, a warning and compensation to be paid to you for 3 times what you would have been paid if you had 'completed the contract' as well as your immediate resignation being accepted

    Argie Smith
    Community Member
    Premium
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's retaliatory behavior!

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