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Woman Secretly Sells Her House Which She Was Renting To Her Brother And His Family After He Was Late To Pay Rent
Woman Secretly Sells Her House Which She Was Renting To Her Brother And His Family After He Was Late To Pay Rent
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Woman Secretly Sells Her House Which She Was Renting To Her Brother And His Family After He Was Late To Pay Rent

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As humans, we want to have a close connection with our families, but sometimes that doesn’t happen and it’s hurtful to realize that you are not compatible with the people you share your DNA with or that they only keep you close to benefit from you.

But this woman didn’t allow her older brother to take advantage of her and secretly sold her house he stopped paying rent for. Now the brother and his family are being evicted and the rest of the family is divided by her decision.

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    You wouldn’t think that your sister would sell the house you’re living in, but you also would expect your brother to pay on time and take care of the house

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    But in this story, the brother was late with payments and stopped doing maintenance, so the sister sold the house and didn’t tell him

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    The brother was angry at his sister that he had to move and only found out from the new owner, their parents were on the woman’s side

    The Original Poster (OP) has an older brother who needed help 5 years ago and since she had rental properties, she offered one of them to him. The house is not very glamorous, but according to the woman, it’s “solid,” and the sister was asking him only to pay for the mortgage and property tax to her, but that meant he was paying for the maintenance because she was not getting profit from this property.

    There were no major conflicts between the siblings until the brother decided to change the hot water tank because it wasn’t enough for his family, although it was only 3 years old and still had warranty.

    It might be very true that the water tank was too small as the family consists of 6 people, so the sister allowed him to install a new one, but she didn’t expect him to make her pay for it as she considered it maintenance and it was the brother’s responsibility.

    Eventually, the homeowner paid for the water tank but forbade the brother to make any changes to the house without her permission, which then led to him maliciously complying and stopping doing maintenance.

    When the sister refused to add a new breaker box and run more outlets because the wiring was not adapted for all the modern electronics they have, which readers found weird, as it was only 20 years old, he started paying rent late.

    So the OP had enough, especially after she tried to talk to him without managing to resolve anything, and sold the house without telling her brother, who found out when he got an eviction notice from the new property owner. The woman’s parents are on her side, but there are a few family members who were horrified. But the OP thinks that 90 days to find a new place is enough and she didn’t see her brother as a serious buyer because he was not even paying rent.

    People in the comments were divided. Some said that her brother is not her responsibility and she already was generous by charging him only mortgage and property taxes. Others thought that there was fault from both sides: the OP should have told her brother she was selling the house and he was supposed to continue taking care of maintenance as they originally agreed.

    Image credits: Warren LeMay (not the actual photo)

    In general, the situation is not that uncommon. A tenant is late to pay rent or skips it altogether, they don’t take care of the property and the landlord is looking for a way to get rid of them to avoid more loss.

    Actually, according to CNBC, “About 18% renters in America, or around 10 million people, were behind in their rent payments as of the beginning of the month.” And the average debt is $5,600 or 4 months behind.

    But the factor that makes the situation at hand more complicated is that the tenant and the landlord are family and there are different expectations. The tenant may think that the landlord will be more lenient, will wait longer and will ask less.

    New Again Houses, a house flipping company, strongly discourages people from renting to family. Their explanation is “One word: drama.”

    From one side, the relative may look at the situation more casually and not consider it an actual contract between a landlord and a tenant. On the other side, the tenant “acquires a false sense of security because you’re not anticipating any problems from your nephew or daughter. After all, they’re family.”

    But you should expect issues arising, whether it’s family or random strangers. The only difference is how complicated it will be to resolve them. To avoid such a situation, you may want to “consider having a third-party property management company act as a buffer between you and your relative. Or find another way to deal with the property, such as listing it with a real estate agent or selling it for cash.”

    Pay Rent also adds that “Boundaries are a crucial part of any relationship, but when you’re renting to relatives and friends, setting clear boundaries before move-in day is especially important in order to set yourselves up for a successful working relationship.” A really good way to do it is a contract that states responsibilities of both parties and consequences if the contract is violated.

    Would you rent to a family member or friend? How would you handle a situation like the OP found herself in? Do you think her solution was appropriate? Do you think she is a lousy landlord or was the brother a tenant who deserved such treatment? Let us know in the comments.

    Readers had mixed opinions ranging from approving the sisters problem solution to claiming that everyone in the situation suck

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    Rahul Pawa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ESH. So much passive aggressiveness from both sides. Grow up and talk to each other honestly instead of acting selfishly and making assumptions.

    Omne47
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the water heater was safe and it worked the landlord is under no obligation to replace it just because the tenant wanted a larger one. From what was written it sounds like the wiring was fine but that the tenant wanted more outlets. Older homes sometimes only have one or two in a room. With all the electronics these days that can be an inconvenience. However the landlord is under no obligation to add outlets just because the tenant wants them, especially if it requires more breaker/fuse slots and a new panel to hold them.

    DaDaMiMi “DaDaMiMi”
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn't an older house though. Only 20 years old. It is one thousand percent her job as a landlord to make sure the wiring is safe and up to code. A 20 year old house should be wired fine to use appliances. He was paying her mortgage off. Yes he was also ah for not paying on time. But it sounded like she was unwilling to fix anything for her property. She expected bc he was her brother to fix it all and not bother her. She could've given him a heads up. That's so awful. 90 days to find another home for your family isn't enough. Especially now. She was wrong. She should've never rented to him in the first place. I totally get it. I have a loser brother and I would never rent to him. Ever. You can't live or sell or rent to family. No business.

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    TheReader19
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moral of this story, never rent to family or friends; seems to end in problems

    JOHN DOE
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The actual moral of the story is learn how to communicate and you won't end being an AH to your brothers and sisters.

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    brandyy17
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in all honesty i dont think the OP is in the wrong. they had an agreement her brother broke it multiple times by either not paying rent or not maintaining the property. the fact that the OP's parents think she shouldve never helped her brother suggests her brother isnt reliable or takes but never gives. also it is her property and she did give him 90 days to find somewhere else to live. she didnt just say "hey leave u got a few days" she gave him 90 days. 2 months is enough time to find a place. perfect example is my parents. they moved to flordia without buying a house first. within a week they found an apartment to rent and after a month of living there they found and bought a house. they decided to live out the 6 month lease on the apartment so they werent surrounded by renovations on the house. long story short my parents found a place to rent in a week. 2 months is more then enough time. also i dont think anyone noticed this but y did he rent from the OP if he had the money to buy the house from her? he couldve found a house to buy himself instead of doing that. he took advantage of family instead of being an adult and finding a place for his kids and wife. he clearly was never going to go along with the agreement he just wanted a place for him and his family to live while someone else took care or issues

    Jessica Olson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    90 days is 3 months even, and she didn't serve him an eviction notice. She knows that the person that bought the house did. She could have told him after she signed the paperwork that she sold the house. But if he's that passive aggressive I wouldn't have told him ahead of time either, he might have tried to sabotage the sale. 😬

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    Donna Lane
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked at a nonprofit housing organization where we had a homeownership program- helping educate folks,clean up their credit,save money- we also offered rental assistance and house offered a lease to own program- It truly is unbelievable how folks want to take advantage of their landlords and family that is bending over backwards to help- bottom line is people love to take advantage and this guy did take advantage- negotiating 90 days after the sale of a property is virtually unheard of in most situations so his sister did him a solid- I have seen tennants try to destroy a rental that is up for sale or try and make it nearly impossible to be shown to potential buyers,I believe thats what would have happened if she had given her brother a heads up- why do people believe its ok that he quit paying the rent? He would have been evicted eventually anyway with any other landlord- sounds like she gave him every opportunity to make things right.No sis your not the AH

    JoJo Anisko
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would brother have done damage with more notice? Had to factor in that risk.

    Just some random chick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only the thought of damaging the property, but he was already starting to be late with the rent payments. If he knew she was going to sell, I can see him making the decision to stop paying altogether and trying to say he needed it to move. Like the commenter above said- if the parents even told her she never should have rented to him, what does that say about his character? It does leave a sour taste in my mouth because it's her brother, but ultimately I think she just did what she had to do to get out of the situation. It seems the longer he stayed there, the more resentment he was having towards her since he couldn't have his way.

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    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother thought he had leverage. He did not.

    Jan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She is right that renting the house to him is not worth the hassle.

    Linnoff
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "There are two sure ways to lose a friend, one is to borrow, the other to lend." family too

    michele mbennett1010@att.net
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA you gave this mooching freeloader plenty of chances which he blew off because you're his sister. Tough s**t buddy! As for relatives bad mouthing you tell them to MYOB and shut the f**k up!

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    Rahul Pawa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ESH. So much passive aggressiveness from both sides. Grow up and talk to each other honestly instead of acting selfishly and making assumptions.

    Omne47
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If the water heater was safe and it worked the landlord is under no obligation to replace it just because the tenant wanted a larger one. From what was written it sounds like the wiring was fine but that the tenant wanted more outlets. Older homes sometimes only have one or two in a room. With all the electronics these days that can be an inconvenience. However the landlord is under no obligation to add outlets just because the tenant wants them, especially if it requires more breaker/fuse slots and a new panel to hold them.

    DaDaMiMi “DaDaMiMi”
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It wasn't an older house though. Only 20 years old. It is one thousand percent her job as a landlord to make sure the wiring is safe and up to code. A 20 year old house should be wired fine to use appliances. He was paying her mortgage off. Yes he was also ah for not paying on time. But it sounded like she was unwilling to fix anything for her property. She expected bc he was her brother to fix it all and not bother her. She could've given him a heads up. That's so awful. 90 days to find another home for your family isn't enough. Especially now. She was wrong. She should've never rented to him in the first place. I totally get it. I have a loser brother and I would never rent to him. Ever. You can't live or sell or rent to family. No business.

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    TheReader19
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Moral of this story, never rent to family or friends; seems to end in problems

    JOHN DOE
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The actual moral of the story is learn how to communicate and you won't end being an AH to your brothers and sisters.

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    brandyy17
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in all honesty i dont think the OP is in the wrong. they had an agreement her brother broke it multiple times by either not paying rent or not maintaining the property. the fact that the OP's parents think she shouldve never helped her brother suggests her brother isnt reliable or takes but never gives. also it is her property and she did give him 90 days to find somewhere else to live. she didnt just say "hey leave u got a few days" she gave him 90 days. 2 months is enough time to find a place. perfect example is my parents. they moved to flordia without buying a house first. within a week they found an apartment to rent and after a month of living there they found and bought a house. they decided to live out the 6 month lease on the apartment so they werent surrounded by renovations on the house. long story short my parents found a place to rent in a week. 2 months is more then enough time. also i dont think anyone noticed this but y did he rent from the OP if he had the money to buy the house from her? he couldve found a house to buy himself instead of doing that. he took advantage of family instead of being an adult and finding a place for his kids and wife. he clearly was never going to go along with the agreement he just wanted a place for him and his family to live while someone else took care or issues

    Jessica Olson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    90 days is 3 months even, and she didn't serve him an eviction notice. She knows that the person that bought the house did. She could have told him after she signed the paperwork that she sold the house. But if he's that passive aggressive I wouldn't have told him ahead of time either, he might have tried to sabotage the sale. 😬

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    Donna Lane
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked at a nonprofit housing organization where we had a homeownership program- helping educate folks,clean up their credit,save money- we also offered rental assistance and house offered a lease to own program- It truly is unbelievable how folks want to take advantage of their landlords and family that is bending over backwards to help- bottom line is people love to take advantage and this guy did take advantage- negotiating 90 days after the sale of a property is virtually unheard of in most situations so his sister did him a solid- I have seen tennants try to destroy a rental that is up for sale or try and make it nearly impossible to be shown to potential buyers,I believe thats what would have happened if she had given her brother a heads up- why do people believe its ok that he quit paying the rent? He would have been evicted eventually anyway with any other landlord- sounds like she gave him every opportunity to make things right.No sis your not the AH

    JoJo Anisko
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would brother have done damage with more notice? Had to factor in that risk.

    Just some random chick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only the thought of damaging the property, but he was already starting to be late with the rent payments. If he knew she was going to sell, I can see him making the decision to stop paying altogether and trying to say he needed it to move. Like the commenter above said- if the parents even told her she never should have rented to him, what does that say about his character? It does leave a sour taste in my mouth because it's her brother, but ultimately I think she just did what she had to do to get out of the situation. It seems the longer he stayed there, the more resentment he was having towards her since he couldn't have his way.

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    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Brother thought he had leverage. He did not.

    Jan
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She is right that renting the house to him is not worth the hassle.

    Linnoff
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "There are two sure ways to lose a friend, one is to borrow, the other to lend." family too

    michele mbennett1010@att.net
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA you gave this mooching freeloader plenty of chances which he blew off because you're his sister. Tough s**t buddy! As for relatives bad mouthing you tell them to MYOB and shut the f**k up!

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