Man Defends Sister After Fiancée Refuses To Wear Her Wedding Dress, Ends Up Single
You would hope that the moment you agree to marry someone, they will always be there for you when you need it.
But as Reddit user Capital_Manager_7070‘s story shows, getting engaged does not guarantee a happily ever after.
In her candid post, the woman explained that her future in-laws started insisting on the couple making changes to their wedding, and everything culminated in them pressuring her to wear another dress. One they had picked for her.
What hurt the bride the most, however, was that her fiancé took a back seat in all of this.
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The groom didn’t stand up for his bride
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“You want [your partner] to feel as though their heart is safe with you; that you will take care of them and have their back,” said Jessica Higgins, Ph.D, a psychologist and relationship coach who specializes in helping couples break free from negative and destructive patterns.
But when the woman’s fiancé talked so negatively about her, he did the exact opposite.
“When someone talks kindly and favorably about us, we typically stand up straighter and feel called to higher character,” Higgins added. “When someone speaks negatively about us, we tend to feel hurt, angry, defensive, and resentful.” She has often heard partners say: “If you are going to call me a jerk, I am going to act like one.”
Furthermore, complaining about your partner to others influences how people perceive them. For example, if a man were to criticize his bride to his parents on a regular basis, this could set them up for having a bad opinion of her instead of forming one for themselves.
Most people who read her story said the woman did nothing wrong
But a few did think she could’ve handled the situation better
Not long after, she provided an update on the conflict
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Which was a reminder that “money talks”
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Today, more people are financing their own weddings. According to a recent survey by The Knot, on average, parents contribute to 51% of the budget, while the couple takes care of the remaining 49%.
In this case, we can’t ignore that the groom’s family has covered 75% of the expenses. “Brides should remember to take care to be effusive if someone else is paying for their wedding,” said East Coast event expert Rebecca Gardner. “You have to honor their part in the wedding.”
In a perfect world, that doesn’t become anything grand. For example, it can reflect on the invitation with something like: “Mr. and Mrs. X request the honor of your presence at the wedding of their son Y to…”
However, when folks are helping to significantly foot the bill, there’s always a chance they might insist on their way rather than the couple’s. (If people can foresee that happening, they may want to consider taking care of the expenses themselves. Even if you ultimately end up scaling back the festivities, your peace of mind is often worth much more.)
That’s why Landis Bejar, a therapist and the founder of AisleTalk, a service that provides therapy specific to wedding planning, believes it’s important to have a budgeting conversation upfront so you have a clear idea of the situation. “Start by talking openly about what it means to contribute financially to a wedding,” she explained.
“Ask your parents directly about their expectations for how much power and control they expect to have in decision-making as the ones paying for the event. Whether the expectation is that they have a say in all things, nothing, or some things, you want to know this ahead of time and try to have the conversations early before more emotions get invested,” she added. “Chances are, they haven’t even thought about this consciously. By asking directly, you’re giving everyone involved a chance to reflect on how they would ideally like this process to look, rather than ending up in an unanticipated, financially-motivated power struggle—which isn’t enjoyable for anyone.” But of course, it’s easy for us to talk after the fact. Hindsight is 20/20.
The main element that seemed to be missing throughout this period was a clear acknowledgment of the groom’s steadfast support for the bride.
Eventually, she decided to call the whole thing off
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The YTA people have completely missed what was happening. This was NOT a generous, kindly-meant gift that didn’t match the taste of the recipient. It was an ambush, a demand, and an attempt to force her to do what the family wanted without speaking up for herself because “Don’t make a scene.” And I’m betting the fiance was in on it, if not the instigator.
I was coming to the comments to say the same thing about the fiancé. I would say, as he referred to his fiancés dress as a "rag", that he put his sister up to giving the fiancé her dress. The YTA people are probably similar types of people to the fiancés family.
Load More Replies...He hasnt let his family "change him". Now that he thinks he has her locked down, hes showing his true self. Run, woman, RUN
Far and fast! My wife and I have had our share of arguments, but I have NEVER called her names and I sincerely doubt she ever feared violence from me... those are very bad signs.
Load More Replies...WTF? The only situation in which gifting someone a wedding dress makes sense is if the bride has asked about it, or the couple can’t afford a dress. This wasn’t the case. OP wasn’t going to be spending thousands on a new dress they couldn’t afford. She already had a dress she loved. I think Fiancé didn’t like her mother’s dress and the whole idea of gifting OP one was because he didn’t want to simply talk to OP about it. And he was so angry because OP rejected his idea and wasn’t manipulated by his family. Her opinion didn’t matter. Then the “compromise” of wearing his sister’s dress to the wedding (again his idea) would probably involve losing her mother’s dress before the reception.
I completely agree. He didn't want to be seen and be stuck with pictures of OP in a "dated" wedding dress. Whether he really cares or if he was influenced by his sister and mother as the ones that would be able to tell if the dress was fashionable, doesn't matter. Waaay too many red flags.
Load More Replies...So the guy wants his bride to look exactly like his sister at her wedding?! There's a lot more going on here and that's creepy.
My sister will allow you to wear your mother’s dress at the reception, but you will wear hers for the ceremony. Umm, excuse me, what!?!? She is not a child and he is not her father. How twisted! So glad she is seeing the absolute control he and his family are trying to enforce on her BEFORE the wedding. Yikes.
And he was so happy with himself thinking that was such a wonderful gesture 🤣 This family has problems.
Load More Replies...What was the point in including the YTA comments? They were all downvoted hard and pretty misogynistic for the main part. She’s joining the family so she better start acting like it? WTF. So her life should be to put up with other people dictating her actions and being called vile names?
There is this weird thing going on in reporting whereas , in order to appear " fair and balanced" they present both sides. However, usually they dont make it clear that 99 people side with a and they could only find one to side with b. So it appears that the issue is still " up in the air" because in the interview one person said a and another said b. See climate change and autism.
Load More Replies...Is this SIL the godfather or something? The cheek of this mare to tell the bride to be what she can and can't do. The minute a man spoke to me like that and called me those names, that's its over for me. He's a scumbag and his family are butt holes and his sister in law is a bullying b***h
Who expects it to be okay to dictate someone else's wedding dress? Even if you didn't have a sentimental dress, brides choose their own. This wasn't a "kind" gift. Kind offers the dress privately. This was SIL bullying the ex-bride-to-be, and the rest of the family jumping on board
Exactly. It's about control. If the SIL wanted to be helpful, she'd have offered and not basically demanded! Horrible family. She's best to run!!
Load More Replies...Next week, on Dateline, the Wedding Dress Str@ngling..... Run, honey, run.
Really sucks for her 😢 Imagine having to marry that double-faced guy. Good thing she's gonna leave him, or else she'd probably be abused by her in-laws emotionally and physically
I know this is totally not the point but offloading something you don’t want anymore and calling it a gift is rude in itself. Even if this post didn’t involve the fiancés bonkers reaction I’d vote NTA because that sister’s weird presentation and weirder tantrum prove it wasn’t just a kind gesture.
I think that's very much on point! It absolutely wasn't a kind gesture.
Load More Replies...It's worrying that some people taking the poll above think the guys 'reaction was appropriate'...???? No one who loves you would talk to you that way! He's a disgusting pig of a person.
The sister did not offer her wedding dress. She commanded the bride to wear it and threw a fit when the bride refused. And "offer" that won't take "No" as an answer it not an offer at all. This family is toxic and the bride should cut them off entirely. Be thankful this happened before the marriage because it gave you a good picture of what marriage to this guy would be like. Find someone different or don't get married at all. Single women with sufficient incomes can be very happy on their own and can have children if they want to.
Who tells a Bride what dress she's wearing at her own wedding? NTA,
If she already picked out the dress, she’s likely both emotionally and financially quite invested in it. This is not something she can easily change. It does sound a bit controlling to come to her now- after she’s found the dress she loves- and to tell her she made the wrong choice.
So his “solution” was to for OP to wear SIL’s dress for the ceremony—-the main and most important part of the whole damned thing—-and her mother’s dress for the reception? WTF? The point is the mother’s dress is to be worn for BOTH, not just the party as if it’s second choice dress, ffs. OP needs to get out of there and be among people who aren’t so f****d in the head they’d try to force a bride to wear a wedding dress that means absolutely nothing to her instead of her mother’s dress, the special dress with great sentimental value and meaning to her, the dress that she’s dreamed of wearing at her wedding her whole life. She needs to find someone who recognizes that—-someone who absolutely loves that about her—-and whose family understands and loves it about her as well.
Wow. She needs "permission" from her future sister-in-law to wear what she wants at *her own wedding?* Forcing a "generous gift" on someone in public, where they either have have to accept unconditionally or be scolded for "causing a scene" is the height of a-holery. She needs to run far away from this family of controlling bullies. This is only the first salvo of many attacks.
How could anyone vote YTA?? Obviously the whole family was in on the big announcement but what sane person would think this is a good idea? What bride hasn’t already got her own ideas for her dress? Whole family WAY out of line, this wasn’t a kind gesture, it was an ultimatum. Get out fast!
So many deal-breakers here - 1) His sister saying she would LET her wear her wedding dress at the reception. Deal-breaker. 2) The names he called her. Deal-breaker. 3) He let her sit outside and cry for so very long. Deal-breaker. 4) Not standing up for her to his family. Deal-breaker. 5) Ignoring her at home because of his family. Deal-breaker. This is not the right guy. Anyone who would call her the names he did is an abuser. Plain and simple. I know... I was married to one like that. He was utter trash. If he'd done this before we got married, I would've sent him packing.
I wore my mother-in-laws veil,she gave it to me cause she loved me as a daughter, and I was going to pass it to my daughter due to how close they were(she passed) but somehow my sister-in-law who no one thought would marry for many reasons somehow gotten ahold of it. Yes she did marry and wore it but I had to repeatedly ask for it back because she is very careless with things and I didn't want it ruined like other things have been. The Veil has so much sentimental meaning, especially since we were shafted on other special items after she passed since my husband didn't want to hear her temper tantrum, like she always does to get everything she wants,she was in her 40s then, and older now.
This reads like something out of some older, french psychological thriller, at the precise moment when things go from romantic to creepy. Good thing she has more sense than most movie protagonists.
These are tiresome. “I told my fiancée I want to wear my mother’s wedding dress. He set my car on fire and pushed my grandma down a flight of stairs. AITA?”
Lot of people seem more concerned with the fact that he called the dress a rag than what he called HER. Calling the dress a rag was terrible, but calling this woman the c word is instant grounds for flushing this relationship right down the toilet.
Who the F puts his future SIL on the spot like that? The whole family sounds weird. The dress is for the bride to decide, you can offer in private but noway like that. Marrying your wife in your sisters dress sounds kinda creepy too.
I never understand people that gifting with a public announcement. They are craving for attention just leaving the other part forced to play friendly
What is absolutely weirding me out is that no one is supposed to see the wedding dress before the wedding. SIL should have asked if she wanted the dress privately for that reason alone. Anyhoo that superstition has come home to roost and the wedding is off, so there you go. That whole family is weird and obviously the sun shines out of the a*s of SIL even as far as her own fiance thinks, not a good dynamic to marry into.
Well, there is often a fair number of people who see the wedding dress before hand - the brides mother, sisters and/or some friends (often bridesmaids to be) are frequently in on the choosing. Sometimes, as in my sister's case, the fiance 'helps' choose (he's a controlling, arrogant b'stard though). I agree that the dress should have been offered privately and with a 'you can say no' caveat. That's not what was going on here though. This was about control and her fiance was very much in on it.
Load More Replies...It's not the wedding dress...it's the jerk of a fiancee. His SIL gets to tell you what you will wear at your own wedding??? b##%hy Cun%.......Just no...
As usual, all the YTAs are clueless and ignorant. I don't know why these people always think when somebody does something to you publicly you should talk to them privately, f**k no. Her future sister-in-law's Behavior was absolutely bizarre and inappropriate
I would consider what the SIL did a blessing. The true colors of this family came out. Good thing it happened before the wedding. Glad she is leaving or has left. This family seems to have control issues.
No matter what the rest of story was, a man calls me the filthy misogynistic names he called her, I'm 100% done with him. I would not have stayed in the same car or home with him again. Offering the use of your wedding gown to someone is not a bad thing, but making it a "gift" and a done deal is ridiculous. No one but the bride has a right to choose what she wears on her wedding day.
The people saying YTA are probably the same egotistical type as the fiance. Because only d-bags support other d-bags. The OP did the right thing. She got out of that toxic environment just in time.
Every single YTA in the comments is trash, and useless vapid pick me girls.
YTA people his family or friends of his family? That is the only way someone could say YTA.
The OP isn't a doll for them to dress up as they please. Good thing she saw the writing on the wall and GTFO
am i the only one who thinks its very very very creepy that he wants his sister weding dress on his future wife? maybe he should marry his sister if they want that wedding dress there so badly.... i never heard about tradition when SIL give her dress to bride.
"She agreed to LET ME wear my mother's dress"? WTF? Glad she's leaving.
Wtf did I just read?! This AH of a fiance let's his partner walk into a firing squad of his family and expect her to jump for joy over a gift he knew she wouldn't want. But of course he didn't care about any of that. He wanted to demonstrate just how much control and power he had over her. And when she didn't oblige, he went full on abusive. Could she have handled it better initially? Probably. But she was blindsided and tried. This is such a personal thing, for an entire family to force this sort of thing on a bride is utterly ridiculous. And not one person there stepped up to say they were out of control.
I bet it was the (EX)-fiancé’s idea; he didn’t like OP’s mom’s dress and wanted someone else to be the bad guy and make OP wear something more modern.
The YTA comments are absolutely wild. I'm sure SIL got to choose her dress, the fact that she wouldn't give OP the same courtesy to choose marks her as entirely narcissistic and controlling. Planning a wedding is something many women dream about, and the dress is definitely an extremely important, personal part of that. SIL made the statement (not an offer! If it was an offer she would have done it privately or not gotten upset) PUBLICLY. OP is absolutely not in the wrong for responding publicly. EDIT: I saw a comment suggesting SIL was approached by the fiance to offer the dress because he secretly didn't like OPs dress and so told SIL they wanted her dress and that seems so so believable honestly.
I think she has had a narrow escape from a narcissist. He was everything she wanted at the star…the love bombing to get hooked, pretending to like what she liked and pretended empathy. Then, once he thinks he’s safe, his true self comes out. Abusive with the name calling, the ‘get in the car. You’ve embarrassed me/ SiL etc. He put his SiL up to this I’m sure, since he called the other dress a rag, and with the family there plus they are paying most, she was supposed to cave, let them call the shots. A foretaste of the future.
I accidentally voted that "his reaction was appropriate". of course it's not. WTF.
Not even having the respect to not scroll on his phone while OP was talking to him would've been enough for me to end the relatioship. That's the bare minumim of respect you should give someone you claim to care about.
Get out of there I have not heard such c**p before who's weeding is it..yours
Refusing a gift, especially in public, is almost always considered an insult. That being said your fiancee was way out of line calling you the C-word. I don't foresee ever coming back from this.
Depends on your culture. In mine you can say 'no thanks' and all move on - but that's when it's a genuine gift, which this was not. It didn't work here because it was about dictating to the OP, there was nothing kind or well-meaning here. Thinking about it, who offers their own wedding dress anyway? Only if someone had really admired it, or had no money or options at all. OP had her dress and her fiance knew that, bet the SIL did too.
Load More Replies...I'd really like to know, particularly from those voting in the bottom 2 categories in the poll, why anyone thinks it's appropriate for someone to insinuate themselves into another bride's wedding? I can understand it to a certain extent with parents, but groom's sister has absolutely no business having any input, let alone in this fashion. Someone please explain how this could be acceptable, I'd love to know.
So, his "exact words" were "b***y c**t"? How do you pronounce that? Is the * silent or pronounced like the r in colonel?
I'm curious if this is a mixed-culture or religious marriage because it sure sounds like she is expected to be subservient to her fiancee and them. Are they Jehova Witnesses, because in that religion the women are expected to always defer to the man and the man's family.
Sorry but I think this is just made up non sense, no one would expect anyone to wear a dress someone else had already worn and we live in an age where women are expected to decide for themselves for they want, not act like women from the Victorian era and who's mother makes them promise to wear their old wedding dress, is she the exact same size as both her SIL and mother, all these stories of whole families ganging up on one little victim are actually disempowering to women, so what is the choice here obey your man and his nasty family or be single.
I don't like to call posts fake but this one is weird. It is well known that the bride picking out her dress is a seminal moment for most women. There is even a popular show where women pick their wedding dress and it is emotional. On this show, there are various examples of other people trying to force the bride to wear this or that and the wise shop owners prevail and let her choose the THE DRESS. I am sure the SIL knows this ritual as she picked her own dress. To think that a bride is going to be thrilled at wearing someone else's dress without even trying it on is ludicrous. The fact that the bride cried for hours and the fiancé was immediately dismissive also seems unlikely. One or both of them had to know the emotional temperature of this family and each other. Weird situation/ fake post. Sorry.
The YTA people have completely missed what was happening. This was NOT a generous, kindly-meant gift that didn’t match the taste of the recipient. It was an ambush, a demand, and an attempt to force her to do what the family wanted without speaking up for herself because “Don’t make a scene.” And I’m betting the fiance was in on it, if not the instigator.
I was coming to the comments to say the same thing about the fiancé. I would say, as he referred to his fiancés dress as a "rag", that he put his sister up to giving the fiancé her dress. The YTA people are probably similar types of people to the fiancés family.
Load More Replies...He hasnt let his family "change him". Now that he thinks he has her locked down, hes showing his true self. Run, woman, RUN
Far and fast! My wife and I have had our share of arguments, but I have NEVER called her names and I sincerely doubt she ever feared violence from me... those are very bad signs.
Load More Replies...WTF? The only situation in which gifting someone a wedding dress makes sense is if the bride has asked about it, or the couple can’t afford a dress. This wasn’t the case. OP wasn’t going to be spending thousands on a new dress they couldn’t afford. She already had a dress she loved. I think Fiancé didn’t like her mother’s dress and the whole idea of gifting OP one was because he didn’t want to simply talk to OP about it. And he was so angry because OP rejected his idea and wasn’t manipulated by his family. Her opinion didn’t matter. Then the “compromise” of wearing his sister’s dress to the wedding (again his idea) would probably involve losing her mother’s dress before the reception.
I completely agree. He didn't want to be seen and be stuck with pictures of OP in a "dated" wedding dress. Whether he really cares or if he was influenced by his sister and mother as the ones that would be able to tell if the dress was fashionable, doesn't matter. Waaay too many red flags.
Load More Replies...So the guy wants his bride to look exactly like his sister at her wedding?! There's a lot more going on here and that's creepy.
My sister will allow you to wear your mother’s dress at the reception, but you will wear hers for the ceremony. Umm, excuse me, what!?!? She is not a child and he is not her father. How twisted! So glad she is seeing the absolute control he and his family are trying to enforce on her BEFORE the wedding. Yikes.
And he was so happy with himself thinking that was such a wonderful gesture 🤣 This family has problems.
Load More Replies...What was the point in including the YTA comments? They were all downvoted hard and pretty misogynistic for the main part. She’s joining the family so she better start acting like it? WTF. So her life should be to put up with other people dictating her actions and being called vile names?
There is this weird thing going on in reporting whereas , in order to appear " fair and balanced" they present both sides. However, usually they dont make it clear that 99 people side with a and they could only find one to side with b. So it appears that the issue is still " up in the air" because in the interview one person said a and another said b. See climate change and autism.
Load More Replies...Is this SIL the godfather or something? The cheek of this mare to tell the bride to be what she can and can't do. The minute a man spoke to me like that and called me those names, that's its over for me. He's a scumbag and his family are butt holes and his sister in law is a bullying b***h
Who expects it to be okay to dictate someone else's wedding dress? Even if you didn't have a sentimental dress, brides choose their own. This wasn't a "kind" gift. Kind offers the dress privately. This was SIL bullying the ex-bride-to-be, and the rest of the family jumping on board
Exactly. It's about control. If the SIL wanted to be helpful, she'd have offered and not basically demanded! Horrible family. She's best to run!!
Load More Replies...Next week, on Dateline, the Wedding Dress Str@ngling..... Run, honey, run.
Really sucks for her 😢 Imagine having to marry that double-faced guy. Good thing she's gonna leave him, or else she'd probably be abused by her in-laws emotionally and physically
I know this is totally not the point but offloading something you don’t want anymore and calling it a gift is rude in itself. Even if this post didn’t involve the fiancés bonkers reaction I’d vote NTA because that sister’s weird presentation and weirder tantrum prove it wasn’t just a kind gesture.
I think that's very much on point! It absolutely wasn't a kind gesture.
Load More Replies...It's worrying that some people taking the poll above think the guys 'reaction was appropriate'...???? No one who loves you would talk to you that way! He's a disgusting pig of a person.
The sister did not offer her wedding dress. She commanded the bride to wear it and threw a fit when the bride refused. And "offer" that won't take "No" as an answer it not an offer at all. This family is toxic and the bride should cut them off entirely. Be thankful this happened before the marriage because it gave you a good picture of what marriage to this guy would be like. Find someone different or don't get married at all. Single women with sufficient incomes can be very happy on their own and can have children if they want to.
Who tells a Bride what dress she's wearing at her own wedding? NTA,
If she already picked out the dress, she’s likely both emotionally and financially quite invested in it. This is not something she can easily change. It does sound a bit controlling to come to her now- after she’s found the dress she loves- and to tell her she made the wrong choice.
So his “solution” was to for OP to wear SIL’s dress for the ceremony—-the main and most important part of the whole damned thing—-and her mother’s dress for the reception? WTF? The point is the mother’s dress is to be worn for BOTH, not just the party as if it’s second choice dress, ffs. OP needs to get out of there and be among people who aren’t so f****d in the head they’d try to force a bride to wear a wedding dress that means absolutely nothing to her instead of her mother’s dress, the special dress with great sentimental value and meaning to her, the dress that she’s dreamed of wearing at her wedding her whole life. She needs to find someone who recognizes that—-someone who absolutely loves that about her—-and whose family understands and loves it about her as well.
Wow. She needs "permission" from her future sister-in-law to wear what she wants at *her own wedding?* Forcing a "generous gift" on someone in public, where they either have have to accept unconditionally or be scolded for "causing a scene" is the height of a-holery. She needs to run far away from this family of controlling bullies. This is only the first salvo of many attacks.
How could anyone vote YTA?? Obviously the whole family was in on the big announcement but what sane person would think this is a good idea? What bride hasn’t already got her own ideas for her dress? Whole family WAY out of line, this wasn’t a kind gesture, it was an ultimatum. Get out fast!
So many deal-breakers here - 1) His sister saying she would LET her wear her wedding dress at the reception. Deal-breaker. 2) The names he called her. Deal-breaker. 3) He let her sit outside and cry for so very long. Deal-breaker. 4) Not standing up for her to his family. Deal-breaker. 5) Ignoring her at home because of his family. Deal-breaker. This is not the right guy. Anyone who would call her the names he did is an abuser. Plain and simple. I know... I was married to one like that. He was utter trash. If he'd done this before we got married, I would've sent him packing.
I wore my mother-in-laws veil,she gave it to me cause she loved me as a daughter, and I was going to pass it to my daughter due to how close they were(she passed) but somehow my sister-in-law who no one thought would marry for many reasons somehow gotten ahold of it. Yes she did marry and wore it but I had to repeatedly ask for it back because she is very careless with things and I didn't want it ruined like other things have been. The Veil has so much sentimental meaning, especially since we were shafted on other special items after she passed since my husband didn't want to hear her temper tantrum, like she always does to get everything she wants,she was in her 40s then, and older now.
This reads like something out of some older, french psychological thriller, at the precise moment when things go from romantic to creepy. Good thing she has more sense than most movie protagonists.
These are tiresome. “I told my fiancée I want to wear my mother’s wedding dress. He set my car on fire and pushed my grandma down a flight of stairs. AITA?”
Lot of people seem more concerned with the fact that he called the dress a rag than what he called HER. Calling the dress a rag was terrible, but calling this woman the c word is instant grounds for flushing this relationship right down the toilet.
Who the F puts his future SIL on the spot like that? The whole family sounds weird. The dress is for the bride to decide, you can offer in private but noway like that. Marrying your wife in your sisters dress sounds kinda creepy too.
I never understand people that gifting with a public announcement. They are craving for attention just leaving the other part forced to play friendly
What is absolutely weirding me out is that no one is supposed to see the wedding dress before the wedding. SIL should have asked if she wanted the dress privately for that reason alone. Anyhoo that superstition has come home to roost and the wedding is off, so there you go. That whole family is weird and obviously the sun shines out of the a*s of SIL even as far as her own fiance thinks, not a good dynamic to marry into.
Well, there is often a fair number of people who see the wedding dress before hand - the brides mother, sisters and/or some friends (often bridesmaids to be) are frequently in on the choosing. Sometimes, as in my sister's case, the fiance 'helps' choose (he's a controlling, arrogant b'stard though). I agree that the dress should have been offered privately and with a 'you can say no' caveat. That's not what was going on here though. This was about control and her fiance was very much in on it.
Load More Replies...It's not the wedding dress...it's the jerk of a fiancee. His SIL gets to tell you what you will wear at your own wedding??? b##%hy Cun%.......Just no...
As usual, all the YTAs are clueless and ignorant. I don't know why these people always think when somebody does something to you publicly you should talk to them privately, f**k no. Her future sister-in-law's Behavior was absolutely bizarre and inappropriate
I would consider what the SIL did a blessing. The true colors of this family came out. Good thing it happened before the wedding. Glad she is leaving or has left. This family seems to have control issues.
No matter what the rest of story was, a man calls me the filthy misogynistic names he called her, I'm 100% done with him. I would not have stayed in the same car or home with him again. Offering the use of your wedding gown to someone is not a bad thing, but making it a "gift" and a done deal is ridiculous. No one but the bride has a right to choose what she wears on her wedding day.
The people saying YTA are probably the same egotistical type as the fiance. Because only d-bags support other d-bags. The OP did the right thing. She got out of that toxic environment just in time.
Every single YTA in the comments is trash, and useless vapid pick me girls.
YTA people his family or friends of his family? That is the only way someone could say YTA.
The OP isn't a doll for them to dress up as they please. Good thing she saw the writing on the wall and GTFO
am i the only one who thinks its very very very creepy that he wants his sister weding dress on his future wife? maybe he should marry his sister if they want that wedding dress there so badly.... i never heard about tradition when SIL give her dress to bride.
"She agreed to LET ME wear my mother's dress"? WTF? Glad she's leaving.
Wtf did I just read?! This AH of a fiance let's his partner walk into a firing squad of his family and expect her to jump for joy over a gift he knew she wouldn't want. But of course he didn't care about any of that. He wanted to demonstrate just how much control and power he had over her. And when she didn't oblige, he went full on abusive. Could she have handled it better initially? Probably. But she was blindsided and tried. This is such a personal thing, for an entire family to force this sort of thing on a bride is utterly ridiculous. And not one person there stepped up to say they were out of control.
I bet it was the (EX)-fiancé’s idea; he didn’t like OP’s mom’s dress and wanted someone else to be the bad guy and make OP wear something more modern.
The YTA comments are absolutely wild. I'm sure SIL got to choose her dress, the fact that she wouldn't give OP the same courtesy to choose marks her as entirely narcissistic and controlling. Planning a wedding is something many women dream about, and the dress is definitely an extremely important, personal part of that. SIL made the statement (not an offer! If it was an offer she would have done it privately or not gotten upset) PUBLICLY. OP is absolutely not in the wrong for responding publicly. EDIT: I saw a comment suggesting SIL was approached by the fiance to offer the dress because he secretly didn't like OPs dress and so told SIL they wanted her dress and that seems so so believable honestly.
I think she has had a narrow escape from a narcissist. He was everything she wanted at the star…the love bombing to get hooked, pretending to like what she liked and pretended empathy. Then, once he thinks he’s safe, his true self comes out. Abusive with the name calling, the ‘get in the car. You’ve embarrassed me/ SiL etc. He put his SiL up to this I’m sure, since he called the other dress a rag, and with the family there plus they are paying most, she was supposed to cave, let them call the shots. A foretaste of the future.
I accidentally voted that "his reaction was appropriate". of course it's not. WTF.
Not even having the respect to not scroll on his phone while OP was talking to him would've been enough for me to end the relatioship. That's the bare minumim of respect you should give someone you claim to care about.
Get out of there I have not heard such c**p before who's weeding is it..yours
Refusing a gift, especially in public, is almost always considered an insult. That being said your fiancee was way out of line calling you the C-word. I don't foresee ever coming back from this.
Depends on your culture. In mine you can say 'no thanks' and all move on - but that's when it's a genuine gift, which this was not. It didn't work here because it was about dictating to the OP, there was nothing kind or well-meaning here. Thinking about it, who offers their own wedding dress anyway? Only if someone had really admired it, or had no money or options at all. OP had her dress and her fiance knew that, bet the SIL did too.
Load More Replies...I'd really like to know, particularly from those voting in the bottom 2 categories in the poll, why anyone thinks it's appropriate for someone to insinuate themselves into another bride's wedding? I can understand it to a certain extent with parents, but groom's sister has absolutely no business having any input, let alone in this fashion. Someone please explain how this could be acceptable, I'd love to know.
So, his "exact words" were "b***y c**t"? How do you pronounce that? Is the * silent or pronounced like the r in colonel?
I'm curious if this is a mixed-culture or religious marriage because it sure sounds like she is expected to be subservient to her fiancee and them. Are they Jehova Witnesses, because in that religion the women are expected to always defer to the man and the man's family.
Sorry but I think this is just made up non sense, no one would expect anyone to wear a dress someone else had already worn and we live in an age where women are expected to decide for themselves for they want, not act like women from the Victorian era and who's mother makes them promise to wear their old wedding dress, is she the exact same size as both her SIL and mother, all these stories of whole families ganging up on one little victim are actually disempowering to women, so what is the choice here obey your man and his nasty family or be single.
I don't like to call posts fake but this one is weird. It is well known that the bride picking out her dress is a seminal moment for most women. There is even a popular show where women pick their wedding dress and it is emotional. On this show, there are various examples of other people trying to force the bride to wear this or that and the wise shop owners prevail and let her choose the THE DRESS. I am sure the SIL knows this ritual as she picked her own dress. To think that a bride is going to be thrilled at wearing someone else's dress without even trying it on is ludicrous. The fact that the bride cried for hours and the fiancé was immediately dismissive also seems unlikely. One or both of them had to know the emotional temperature of this family and each other. Weird situation/ fake post. Sorry.













































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