“So Unhealthy!”: Woman Makes A Scene At Thanksgiving Dinner, Doesn’t Think She’s The Problem
Is it really Thanksgiving if there’s no family drama?
For one Redditor, last year’s holiday was anything but peaceful after her brother’s girlfriend joined the celebration. Instead of enjoying the festive atmosphere, she complained about every dish on the table, leaving a sour taste for everyone involved.
Hoping to avoid a repeat, the host decided not to invite her this year. But what seemed like a simple solution turned into yet another disagreement.
Read the full story below.
Last year, the woman turned her boyfriend’s family Thanksgiving into a disaster
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Now, she’s paying the price
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It’s rare for families to keep calm during the holiday season
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Family gatherings during the holiday season have a way of bringing out the f-word. By that, I mean fights. Thanksgiving, in particular, has a reputation for being one of the rowdiest occasions of the year.
A USA TODAY Blueprint survey from 2023 revealed that out of 2,000 adults, only 12 percent reported never having family arguments on Thanksgiving. The top cause of conflict, according to over half of respondents (51 percent), was “family issues.” Politics came in close behind at 48 percent, with money not far off at 47 percent. Other sensitive topics that often stir the pot included parenting styles (37 percent) and religion (29 percent).
Sean Grover, L.C.S.W., a psychotherapist and author with over 25 years of experience, believes there are three main reasons why holidays often become such a volatile time for families.
For one, they’re some of the busiest travel days of the year. Crowded airports, packed trains, flight delays, and constant traffic jams leave people exhausted and stressed before they even arrive. “Add too little sleep and last-minute shopping, and you’re primed for a full-scale emotional meltdown,” Grover points out.
If you’re heading back to your childhood home, that alone can be an overwhelming experience. For some, it’s a space filled with painful memories, like divorce or past trauma. “Once in the company of their parents and siblings, an emotional regression occurs, triggering immature childhood behaviors to resurface, such as rivalry, competition, grudges, tensions, and deep-seated resentments,” Grover explains.
Finally, overindulgence can play a big role. The holidays often mean overeating and over-drinking, both of which can lower impulse control and make people more irritable.
So, as the next gathering approaches, keep this in mind and think about how you can make it a little easier for everyone—including yourself.
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The YTAs strike again 🤣 she was beyond rude and was lucky she wasn't kicked out mid dinner, so lessons learned and she can eat her organic clean whatever elsewhere.
Quite so. And no, this wasn't about "dietary restrictions" it was about some self-righteous health nut trying to impose her standards on someone else.
Load More Replies...The fact that she came to your house last year AND BOUGHT HER OWN FOOD, clearly indicates she was out for a fight before she'd even seen what you were preparing. NTA
That’s what bothers me most. She claimed she assumed she didn’t have to say anything because everybody is so health-conscious nowadays, but at the same time she came with her own food?
Load More Replies...Being rude & unpleasant at someone's home you've been invited to, deserve zero tolerance. At the end of the day, it's the OP's home, and she can do what the hell she likes. She should tell her dissenting relatives to have the meal at THEIR home if they're so bothered. That's what I'd do. BTW, that brother will probably be miserable AF in years to come, if he marries his GF.
Organic and "clean"? Are for a lot of people too expensive and sometimes hard to get. It may be a thing whereby the hostess doesn't have a large amount of time to buy the food for the occasion, then it seems such an effort to prepare, cook and serve. The OP is NTA. But the GF could grow up and realise that not everyone is like her, then learn to share and compromise when out at some else's place. GF should also show some manners. As for butter, it is healthier than margarine. Nothing better than butter on potatoes, or corn.
Oh sure invite her again. Stare her in the face while you dish out the chocolate ice cream for desert.
I'm sure she'd love my MIL's sweet potato casserole. Its abt ⅓ sweet potatoes ⅓ white sugar, the rest butter & spices. Then there's the crunchy topping made of butter, more sugar, & nuts. Part of the tradition was for MIL to come to the table with her plate (she serves buffet-style) & say, "Jack (my late FIL), you didn't get any sweet potatoes!" & he'd say, "I b'lieve I'll have mine for dessert." He died in October 2023 & I can't look at that casserole without thinking of him & missing him so much.
Load More Replies...Why not go to her family for Thanksgiving? Surely, they would cater to Emily's demanding dietary wants. Snicker! Snicker! Personally, I'm once and done with that degree of bad manners...
I don't understand why OP didn't tell her to stop being rude and can it during the last thanksgiving.
In Norway there is this culture thing that is respect in other people's house's.
It's pretty much a universal thing or so l'm told
Load More Replies...Stop giving people a vote, OP. You were insulted by this person and never got an apology, you don't owe her dinner. And if they brother is upset, he should have ( a year ago) called his girlfriend out on her over the top insulting behavior and he can eat with the b!tch alone one thanksgiving.
In this day and age everybody should know about being healthy. OK here's the thing, in this day and age after 1000s of years of social evolution, everybody should know how to be considerate guest in someone else's home and how to be tactful about your preferences without being self righteous and insulting to others.
Thanksgiving is not the meal to start your clean living diet. It's meant to be full of fat and butter. Most Americans know this. This girl was dumb. And inconsiderate.
Load More Replies...Brother is in an impossible position? The hostess not only cleans house, cleans kitchen, shops and cooks for the Thanksgiving, but must also take time to find "all about" the girlfriend. Should she google or hire an investigator? Sister is not being petty. Why should she set herself, her family and other guest up for such bs? Girlfriend has no class.
"Bro, she obviously didn't enjoy herself last year and she did nothing but complain. I would think she wouldn't want a repeat of that anymore than the rest of us who had to listen to her want a repeat. The menu isn't changing and I'm not going to be disrespected in my own home again. I'll understand if you spend your Thanksgiving with her instead."
First World problems. Only people with money and who have no worries about where their next meal is coming from can afford to be so picky. A lot of people have to eat whatever they can afford, not make criticisms about the use of things like butter. Do you know how EXPENSIVE butter is in third world countries?!!
It's his girlfriend, not his wife. If you're a rude, ungrateful PoS who insults the person whose home your in, who paid for and prepared all the food you're being presented with, don't expect to be invited back. JFC....who TF expects everyone else to manifest your dietary needs out of thin air, despite having never, ever met you? "i only eat cruelty free tofu, and vegetables that have died of natural causes" I'd say let her torment her own family, but there's probably a reason she's expecting to do two holidays in a row with her BFs.
Sounds like a patient I used to deal with. Rabid vegan, I don't care what he does in his own life, but he used to stand in the middle of the hallway and lecture all of us about the evils of meat and dairy, and hand out stuff he printed out from the Internet and insist we read it. So I made sure when he came to his appointments I was front and center with a cheeseburger in one hand and a chocolate shake in the other. Yes, I have a Master's in petty.
If GF had apologized and said that she will bring her own food, but not criticize others, then I would be OK. Something tells me that she is not able to do that.
Lol YTA - why would you invite someone who was rude and made you uncomfortable in your own home? Brother can do one for the enablement.
If you have specific diet requirements, always inform the host in advance. I would invite her but wouldn't cook anything for her.
Remember to say "if I wanted your opinion - I'd read it from your entrails." Everything she said was just her opinion that you didn't ask for.
Can tell the doormat contingent was around from all the YTA responses.
She sounds like a real keeper. I mean the kind you keep at home when you go out to someone's house for dinner. And others complain about us boomers. At least most of us were taught manners by our parents.
YTAs, are you kidding?? OP hosted the dinner, cooking in her own particular style, perhaps family favorites that people looked forward to. Then, this beyond-rude individual proceeds to say nasty things about everything which must have made everybody uncomfortable. (Brother apparently didn't think she was out of line - but it'd be interesting to know what they eat at home, by her choice, & then if he tucked into OP's "unhealthy" meal.) With the memory of last year's nightmare in mind, who would have the slightest, momentary thought of voluntarily bringing such an unpleasant, uncouth person into what could otherwise be a relaxing get together with wonderful food? Not invited this year because she's beyond rude,, insults the person who prepared the "unclean" food & the one who selected the wine & by creating a very uncomfortable situation, put a damper on ithe occasion for the other guests. Who needs that? And why would anybody intentionally choose to repeat that? Brother is invited & can accept or decline, as he wishes. But OP did not create this situation - brother did, knowing what Girlfriend was likely to say & do.
The brothers girlfriend is one rude self entitled lady dog! End of! If someone has an allergy that's a totally different thing because as a host? You kinda don't want to have your guests possibly go into Anaphylaxis!... She's not going to possibly die if it's - not organic and hand picked on the left side of the mountain by a fair trade worker named Dave is she? 🙄🙄🙄
Don't be silly. She's a guest and should have behaved like one. She could have inquired whether it was okay for her to bring her own food. At the very least she could have asked whether it was all right if she used someone else's kitchen. This guest was rude and entitled.
Load More Replies...The YTAs strike again 🤣 she was beyond rude and was lucky she wasn't kicked out mid dinner, so lessons learned and she can eat her organic clean whatever elsewhere.
Quite so. And no, this wasn't about "dietary restrictions" it was about some self-righteous health nut trying to impose her standards on someone else.
Load More Replies...The fact that she came to your house last year AND BOUGHT HER OWN FOOD, clearly indicates she was out for a fight before she'd even seen what you were preparing. NTA
That’s what bothers me most. She claimed she assumed she didn’t have to say anything because everybody is so health-conscious nowadays, but at the same time she came with her own food?
Load More Replies...Being rude & unpleasant at someone's home you've been invited to, deserve zero tolerance. At the end of the day, it's the OP's home, and she can do what the hell she likes. She should tell her dissenting relatives to have the meal at THEIR home if they're so bothered. That's what I'd do. BTW, that brother will probably be miserable AF in years to come, if he marries his GF.
Organic and "clean"? Are for a lot of people too expensive and sometimes hard to get. It may be a thing whereby the hostess doesn't have a large amount of time to buy the food for the occasion, then it seems such an effort to prepare, cook and serve. The OP is NTA. But the GF could grow up and realise that not everyone is like her, then learn to share and compromise when out at some else's place. GF should also show some manners. As for butter, it is healthier than margarine. Nothing better than butter on potatoes, or corn.
Oh sure invite her again. Stare her in the face while you dish out the chocolate ice cream for desert.
I'm sure she'd love my MIL's sweet potato casserole. Its abt ⅓ sweet potatoes ⅓ white sugar, the rest butter & spices. Then there's the crunchy topping made of butter, more sugar, & nuts. Part of the tradition was for MIL to come to the table with her plate (she serves buffet-style) & say, "Jack (my late FIL), you didn't get any sweet potatoes!" & he'd say, "I b'lieve I'll have mine for dessert." He died in October 2023 & I can't look at that casserole without thinking of him & missing him so much.
Load More Replies...Why not go to her family for Thanksgiving? Surely, they would cater to Emily's demanding dietary wants. Snicker! Snicker! Personally, I'm once and done with that degree of bad manners...
I don't understand why OP didn't tell her to stop being rude and can it during the last thanksgiving.
In Norway there is this culture thing that is respect in other people's house's.
It's pretty much a universal thing or so l'm told
Load More Replies...Stop giving people a vote, OP. You were insulted by this person and never got an apology, you don't owe her dinner. And if they brother is upset, he should have ( a year ago) called his girlfriend out on her over the top insulting behavior and he can eat with the b!tch alone one thanksgiving.
In this day and age everybody should know about being healthy. OK here's the thing, in this day and age after 1000s of years of social evolution, everybody should know how to be considerate guest in someone else's home and how to be tactful about your preferences without being self righteous and insulting to others.
Thanksgiving is not the meal to start your clean living diet. It's meant to be full of fat and butter. Most Americans know this. This girl was dumb. And inconsiderate.
Load More Replies...Brother is in an impossible position? The hostess not only cleans house, cleans kitchen, shops and cooks for the Thanksgiving, but must also take time to find "all about" the girlfriend. Should she google or hire an investigator? Sister is not being petty. Why should she set herself, her family and other guest up for such bs? Girlfriend has no class.
"Bro, she obviously didn't enjoy herself last year and she did nothing but complain. I would think she wouldn't want a repeat of that anymore than the rest of us who had to listen to her want a repeat. The menu isn't changing and I'm not going to be disrespected in my own home again. I'll understand if you spend your Thanksgiving with her instead."
First World problems. Only people with money and who have no worries about where their next meal is coming from can afford to be so picky. A lot of people have to eat whatever they can afford, not make criticisms about the use of things like butter. Do you know how EXPENSIVE butter is in third world countries?!!
It's his girlfriend, not his wife. If you're a rude, ungrateful PoS who insults the person whose home your in, who paid for and prepared all the food you're being presented with, don't expect to be invited back. JFC....who TF expects everyone else to manifest your dietary needs out of thin air, despite having never, ever met you? "i only eat cruelty free tofu, and vegetables that have died of natural causes" I'd say let her torment her own family, but there's probably a reason she's expecting to do two holidays in a row with her BFs.
Sounds like a patient I used to deal with. Rabid vegan, I don't care what he does in his own life, but he used to stand in the middle of the hallway and lecture all of us about the evils of meat and dairy, and hand out stuff he printed out from the Internet and insist we read it. So I made sure when he came to his appointments I was front and center with a cheeseburger in one hand and a chocolate shake in the other. Yes, I have a Master's in petty.
If GF had apologized and said that she will bring her own food, but not criticize others, then I would be OK. Something tells me that she is not able to do that.
Lol YTA - why would you invite someone who was rude and made you uncomfortable in your own home? Brother can do one for the enablement.
If you have specific diet requirements, always inform the host in advance. I would invite her but wouldn't cook anything for her.
Remember to say "if I wanted your opinion - I'd read it from your entrails." Everything she said was just her opinion that you didn't ask for.
Can tell the doormat contingent was around from all the YTA responses.
She sounds like a real keeper. I mean the kind you keep at home when you go out to someone's house for dinner. And others complain about us boomers. At least most of us were taught manners by our parents.
YTAs, are you kidding?? OP hosted the dinner, cooking in her own particular style, perhaps family favorites that people looked forward to. Then, this beyond-rude individual proceeds to say nasty things about everything which must have made everybody uncomfortable. (Brother apparently didn't think she was out of line - but it'd be interesting to know what they eat at home, by her choice, & then if he tucked into OP's "unhealthy" meal.) With the memory of last year's nightmare in mind, who would have the slightest, momentary thought of voluntarily bringing such an unpleasant, uncouth person into what could otherwise be a relaxing get together with wonderful food? Not invited this year because she's beyond rude,, insults the person who prepared the "unclean" food & the one who selected the wine & by creating a very uncomfortable situation, put a damper on ithe occasion for the other guests. Who needs that? And why would anybody intentionally choose to repeat that? Brother is invited & can accept or decline, as he wishes. But OP did not create this situation - brother did, knowing what Girlfriend was likely to say & do.
The brothers girlfriend is one rude self entitled lady dog! End of! If someone has an allergy that's a totally different thing because as a host? You kinda don't want to have your guests possibly go into Anaphylaxis!... She's not going to possibly die if it's - not organic and hand picked on the left side of the mountain by a fair trade worker named Dave is she? 🙄🙄🙄
Don't be silly. She's a guest and should have behaved like one. She could have inquired whether it was okay for her to bring her own food. At the very least she could have asked whether it was all right if she used someone else's kitchen. This guest was rude and entitled.
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