Vegetarian Can’t Stop Fellow Passenger From Eating Meat Next To Her, Involves The Cabin Crew
The relationship between meat eaters and vegetarians can sometimes be a contentious one, with both sides holding strong beliefs about their diets. However, it is important for both groups to coexist peacefully and respect each other’s decisions, as everyday life is full of situations where they have to interact.
Recently, Redditor FlightStatus0 had a long fight and they needed to refuel themselves. So they got a burger and started eating it in their seat. However, their plane neighbor was a vegetarian, and the lady didn’t appreciate this one bit. Eventually, it got so bad that she even called the cabin crew to make them put away the meal!
Unsure of the way they handled themselves, FlightStatus0 told the whole story to the subreddit ‘Am I the [Jerk]?’ asking to evaluate their actions. Here’s what they wrote.
A meat eater picked up a burger for their long flight, but the vegetarian sitting next to them said she couldn’t bear the smell
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So they got info a fight about it
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One reason it is important for meat eaters and vegetarians to get along is that dietary preferences are a personal choice. People choose to eat meat or not eat meat for a variety of reasons, including cultural traditions, religious beliefs, health concerns, and ethical values. It is not up to one group to judge or criticize the choices of another group. Instead, it is important to respect and tolerate the choices of others, even if they differ from our own.
Another reason it is important for meat eaters and vegetarians to get along is that it promotes understanding and open-mindedness. By learning about and understanding each other’s perspectives and motivations, we can broaden our own viewpoints and become more accepting of others. This helps to create a more cohesive and harmonious society, where people of all backgrounds and beliefs can live together in harmony.
Ultimately, the importance of meat eaters and vegetarians getting along comes down to respect and tolerance. By respecting each other’s choices and being open to different viewpoints, we can create a more inclusive and harmonious society for all.
Most people said the original poster (OP) had every right to finish their meal
But some suggested they should be more empathetic and put the burger away
People. Unless you are very allergic and possibly affected (like with a nut allergy) it is none of your business what your seat neighbor eats.
It's all well and good until someone brings surströmming in the plane
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A lifelong vegetarian spewaking: Get. Over. It. I have been in places where they boil intestines to eat them. their food choice, not mine. If they aren't force-feeding me, no issue. The smell of beef may make me want to move far away, but that doesn't mean someone isn't allowed to eat it on my say-so.
Nta. Nobody gets to decide what someone else eats. It's absurd and totally disrespectful to expect someone not eat something because you don't like it.
I agree. I hate fish and the smell of it, but it is none of my business what someone else eats.
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Had a similar reaction while riding greyhound once. We stopped to refuel and the driver told us to take a break, get food, whatever...but be back in 20 mins. So I got two Arby's roast beef sandwiches and decided against the curly fries since they can have a strong smell. I get back to my seat, pull out two small baggies to put the meat and buns in (hate soggy bread with a passion) and it's all good till I'm hungry 3 hours later. Remake the sandwich, take a bite, swallow and the guy two seats ahead stands up and starts to go to the back of the bus. He stops behind me and in a crude, huffy demeanor starts raving about the meat smell affecting him, making him sick and how disrespectful I am for his meatless diet. Seriously? The sandwich was cold and without smell. At least I was nice enough not to go to the very back of the bus and warm up the meat! I put on my headphones, hit play on my CD player and finished my meal. Why are some people so...idiotic?
It's not like he's allergic to it. He should've taken a vegan bus then.
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This is why people find vegans insufferable. They get more respect if they reined in their entitlement and bad attitude.
I'm a vegetarian, but I never force it on others. Some things do ruin my appetite though, if for example somebody at my table orders snails or lobster. I would just politely excuse myself from that evening then, no harm done. Not all of us are like that and I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't throw us in one pile.
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"If you stop interrupting me with your entitled behaviour, I will finish quicker and the smell will go away."
A large amount of the content in that particular Reddit sub is fake af.
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Reminds me of that one vegan complaining to her neighbors about them barbecuing.I know plenty of vegans who don't care if you eat meat in front of them, the ones that make it a big deal are the ones that want to feel "special."
A burger and fries is one of the better things I might smell on the plane. Some smells can't be helped. Others can. Super rude to me is women (and sometimes men) who wear too much of a really pungent perfume. I sometimes wonder if these are people who have lost their sense of smell and don't realize how F....ing offensive they are. And I'm a guy. Women supposedly have a more sensitive sense of smell.
Unless she has an allergy, it's not her business. (Yes, there are allergens that can affect people solely be particles in the air. But if she had that, she would have booked a specified seat ahead of time.) The smell was not "pungent" because no one else reacted that way. She lied about that because she knew what it was and wanted to dictate someone else's choice of food.
I'm Jewish, but as far as I'm concerned you can eat pork ribs next to me. But I might drool a little... it's okay, I'm not a weirdo; I swear.
I wouldn't tell anyone that you wanted some of my pork 😏
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My mom gets migraine when she smells cooking meat. She never complains about it. She will give heads up if she is visiting our home. These people so entitled.
As a vegan, these types of people with plant-based diets make me absolutely livid. I admit, I can't bear the smell of meat, but I am not going to yell at someone due to their dietary choices. I don't care. Being vegan is my choice and I don't expect others to give up what they enjoy eating because of it.
I was vegan for 8 years-- not once did I shame or b***h about another person's food or food smells, it was my roommates who gladly ate meat that would hover over my cooking, tell me I had better not segment off any cookware for vegan food only and then they would pig out on my food. Folks just really need to stop being petty and obnoxious.
The comment about being considerate should Also include the complainer. Not your plane, not your rules. It was oked by the flight attendant. Get over yourself.
I'm a vegan but that's my choice! in my opinion she had no right to say anything (unless it was at a vegan restaurant etc)
I'd have savored the food even more. I consider myself quite well-mannered, but in this case, I would have thrown some post-meal farts into the mix. 😂
Burger and fries is a pungent smell to be fair. I can smell it in the car for a couple of days after we get Macs and it's the vegan ones. I know I don't fly much (and when I do it's 10+ hours) but I never seen/smelled anyone eating anything apart from the meals provided on the plane, apart from kids eating sweets
They didn't tell you? This is the carnivore flight. You need to get on the vegetarian and vegan flight.
It's these vegans who give the rest of them a bad name. I agree with the point that the sooner she let's him eat his food the sooner she will cease smelling it. Demanding someone go hungry for 8 hours is extremely inconsiderate.
That vegetarian passenger is free to disembark and look for a seat on the next available flight if they/them are that offended by meat and fried foods.
Wow. What utter privilege (I know, anyone flying has some degree of privilege) to whine about what someone else is eating. It's not hurting others, it's an item available for purchase on the plane. Did the person believe every human was also veg? These types make all the community look bad.
I spent 8 hours on a flight in the vicinity of someone that most likely not enjoying their flight 😆, with the kind of gas the mystery person was releasing, I am sure they couldn't wait to use a bathroom that wasnt public. It was terrible but we all survived the ordeal. 8 hours trapped in a tube of hot smelly gas was a small price to pay to get to my destination in hours rather than days or weeks.
I haven't eaten meat in 13 years, but I absolutely know, and understand, that you don't get to make food choices for others, unless maybe you invited them to your house for dinner. Just because you've made a choice does not mean anyone else cares about it.
Had someone eating fish and chips witb a big cup of vinegar. If I smell vinegar I want to throw up, so I got to change seats. Some people might have a bad allergic reaction to some smells on an airplane.
Yeah, but no one has an allergy just by smelling hamburger meat. The entitled lady should have changed seats if she was so offended, yet she sat there complaining, so it couldn't be that bad.
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Consideration is recognizing that this person is hungry and had not had a chance to eat before the flight for a variety of reasons ... there are things I wish a m**********r would ... tell me I can't eat what I can ... tell me I can't speak a language I can ... tell me I can't watch a movie I can ... tell me I can't do anything I can ... I'm certain that in a general setting outside of a flight, that person is not putting up a fuss about what other people are doing that she cannot stand ... entitlement is a "disease" ...
She sounds pregnant to me. When my ex made chicken, eeeww the smell in the house or beef. Now I just make it myself.
Load More Replies... ... without the other side, every AITA is preconditionend to resut in NTA. I have seen people who were "just eating their food" who enjoyed making some stranger feel miserable by various ways and without any reason to. Of course, when telling their friends about it, they just were peacefully eating and were terrorized by some out-of-their-mind nutcase.
And yet there are still many, many aita posts that do result in a YTA verdict. Considering this was about the smell before op event started *eating*, i think this specific criticism is moot.
Load More Replies... As a vegetarian I'll say this on behalf of most vegetarians. We don't eat meat, that's our choice and we have to put up with other people's choice to eat what ever the choose to. No one likes all smells. Personally my pet hate is pork, but that is my problem not the person who is eating it. Get over yourself, you'll be a better person for it, the world isn't here to make us happy or anyone else, our job us to learn how to get on with each other
Unless you are deathly allergic to the food you have no right to stop the person eating, I have a great sense of smell and can't stand the stench that comes from certain fake "meats" but I wouldn't demand a Vegan not eat next to me because I have the common courtesy to show respect for others people's rights and freedoms.
This is an ESH. You don't take hot food on a plane, train, or bus. It stinks, everyone can smell it, vegetarian or not, and they're trapped with your gross food smell going through the recycled air for the rest of the flight. The vegetarian was definitely being an a*s as well, but the OP was not extending basic courtesy in the first place.
Sav thing is, airlines used to feed people when they were on a flight that long. They still should as far as I'm concerned. Eight hours is a long time without food for anyone, and the entitled woman beside you had no right to tell you what you could eat. Burgers and fries aren't all that pungent: what would she have done if it had been liver and onions?
Some context- I'm a vegetarian and have an ULTRA sensitive stomach for pretty much everything. And by pretty much everything I mean, water, fruit, sugar, perfume, alcohol, any type of fat, dairy, motion, headaches, anti-nausea medication... you get it. The smell of fried food and meat will make me vomit under the right circumstances. At minimum it will make me very nauseous. This is my problem, nobody else's. I always do my best to deal with the nausea as subtley as possible. I have literally never asked someone not to eat their own food near me. It is completely unreasonable to ask someone to hold off eating for 8hr, nevermind in such a rude way. The woman should have discreetly asked if there was an open seat or if she could hangout in the galley until the food was done so as not to insult the writer. At some point people have to realize the world does not accommodate individuals.
NTA. She can deal with it. It's coach, not her home. Airlines don't serve proper food.
Describing a burger as pungent.... WOW. Strong, the olfactory hallucinations are with this Karen. Meditate on this, she must.
I would likely have gone passive aggressive on her.. I might have I'm so sorry you are sensitive. The barf bags are right there.
Wow. I have been on many an international flight where people are free to bring home cooked food to eat during the flight. Sometimes the smell is a bit too much so I learned to bring a scarf that I sewed in a piece of cloth that I can place some EO on and use it to cover my face. I then just go to sleep.
NTA. I'm not a vegetarian but I'm very sensitive to smells especially when it comes to fast food and greasy/fried foods. The smell of McDonald's alone makes me extremely nauseous (i can only eat 3 or 4 fries before i feel like hurling), even more so in closed off spaces but if it happens that often you prepare for it. I bring essential oils or perfume so I can cover up the smell. I'll sniff an article of my clothing (like a scarf, mask, or shirt) or even my hair if I don't have anything else on me. She should be used to it if she's that sensitive and she should plan ahead. I'd never demand someone to stop eating simply because of my hypersensitivity to certain food scents.
If you would have put it away, she still would have smelled it because fast food smell permeates the air around it. So she would have had to smell it the entire flight. You were doing her a favor by eating it and getting rid of the smell. Lol
Interesting… I am VERY sensitive to some of the ingredients in perfume. They make me cough and sneeze. SO many people (both men and women) overuse cologne. They DON’T NEED IT, so not the same as feeding yourself, a requirement to stay alive, healthy and comfortable. People don’t care about others - think about how many people refuse to get vaccines, wear masks, etc.). Protect yourself. Bring whatever you need to, in order to ensure that other’s behavior does not affect you. When I am flying, I use an eye mask, ear plugs, and a nose plug and mask to protect myself. People have a right to do a lot of things that may bother you. Get over it!!! NTA -people need to eat. Up to the Vegan to protect themselves. However, I do think that it is inappropriate for people to bring allergens on an aircraft/bus. For me, the problem is an allergy, so I protect myself. So sad that so many show zero consideration for others, but also so sad that people do not protect themselves
Personally, I bring peppermint oil on planes to dab under my nose, because people and things on planes tend to smell awful.
NTA. Think of each seat on a plane as your own personal, tiny, pod. What you do in the pod us pretty much your own business unless it affects multiple people and rows around you, like excessive profanity or unwanted physical contact. Eat what you want, sleep if you want, read what you want, even watch what you want while wearing headphones. What you do, as long as you follow airline guidelines, is no one's business unless they are controlling/egotistical people. She asked, OP responded, that should have ended it.
Sorry, we don't need to live our life so nobody else dislikes it. I don't have to like you, you don't have to like me. You can be offended but I don't need to change. We all need to deal with others doing what irritates us. We are all entitled to free speech, don't need to have it approved by everyone else. If it's not against the law, others may do as they please. None of us are entitled to be satisfied or liked. Sometimes we are not meant to be included. We can stop demanding others accommodate us.
Perhaps her perfume smells bad to others and they are too polite to say anything.
As we see, pretty much no one thinks the b*tchy vegetarian is in the right here. Case closed.
The commenter who said he would eat with his mouth open is a special kind of jerk that you run into online. They love to go on vegan sites and brag about how much dead animals they are gobbling. What marvelous people they must be!
I've been vegetarian for more than fifty years and don't like the sight or smell of meat but I know the reality is that most people eat meat so I look the other way. And hope they will wake up eventually to the cruelty they are enabling. It doesn't make me sick, just sad.
Yes yes you have let everyone know you are a vegetarian. You're job today is done
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When did people get so self-important? Was it always this bad, or are we just hearing about it more?
The way I see it, the sooner the offended party let's them eat their burger in peace, the sooner the smell will dissipate. If she made the OP put the food away, she would be smelling burger and fries for the entire flight. The vegetarian needs to learn that they can't control what others do. They can only control their own reactions to them.
It is an a*****e move to eat smelly foods in public transport. But at that point you already had the burger on the plane, so everyone was going to smell it either way. Might as well eat it then, since you're very hungry. Next time just pick something that doesn't have a strong smell.. It's simply common courtesy. Also the woman was being an a*****e as well. She had the right to ask you to stop I suppose, but she should've accepted the answer.
NTA Now if you started making mooing sounds before taking a bite of your burger.... still NTA
Man I hate vegetarians or vegans that feel the need to make everyone conform to their diet. I would literally be starving to death if I had to, because if I don't get a consistent source of protein everyday, my blood sugar plummets and I will faint. And I don't eat nuts or any meat replacements. I literally can't. I'm extremely sensitive to textures, particularly with vegetation, and if I try to eat a texture that upsets me, no matter how much I may want it, that bad texture will trigger my gag reflex and I can't finish the meal. Ffs they really do be living in this made up world where dietary restrictions don't exist. Also like.. Most of the foods they eat that supplement the nutrients of meat are classified as some of the most common and dangerous food allergens. This isn't to say they're all like this, I personally know a vegan who is great and anytime we have a get together I always try to be considerate and provide something they can eat.
We all have to deal with things we don't like. She needs to get off her entitlement. Eat up. It's better then dealing with a man who's hangry.
I should add that there are many thousands of religious vegetarians and vegans in Asia. Never once in all my time there did a single one of them make an issue of the fact that they did not eat meat or that I did. I accepted the fact that if I ate at their home it would be a delicious vegetarian meal. If they ate with me I insured that there was a meal they would eat. If we ate out, at the same table mind you, there would be a mix of dishes we all liked. Nothing but respect in both directions. And these are people to whom vegetarianism is a religious tenet! It seems to only be in the western, particularly North American, mentality that one person should be catered to and that if you don't toe that line you are the one in the wrong. Live and let live I say!
There are nifty devices above the seats which blow air. They can be aimed in a range of directions. Vegetarian could have asked if they could aim theirs to blow the aroma away. Or put a bag over their head.
Ha. I recommend never traveling overseas to the snowflake crowd. In Korea I ended up sitting between two Korean gentleman. Both had evidently had kimchi for lunch. Thankfully I love the stuff but it was pungent. Nobody travels with food like Asians God bless them. They serve a pork chop lunchbox on the train in Taiwan that is to die for. And walking through any night market is a joy like none other. Vegans beware!
Drive or fly a private jet, otherwise don't complain. I fly to Florida about six or seven times a year. The flight crews always heat up their meals in a oven and the smell takes over the whole plane. I'm stuck eating chips or nuts while the smell of wonderful food is wafting up my nose. Not fair but better than driving.
. If one is a vegan then the meat eater also has the right to eat ... vegan can't stop a eat eater to comply with their wishes... I guess vegan eater must start a vegan flight...
Everyone talk about consideration but it’s usually one way. I’m not such a fan of the AITA phrasing bc I’m not sure it’s so black and white. I agree with the problem of allergies but this is not the case here. When I’m a flight that long where should one eat, the bathroom?! Get over yourself and breathe through your mouth. I’ve been pregnant 6 times (!!!) and I never (besides for my husband) put restrictions on people I knew or didn’t. People have to get over themselves. It’s like we’re a generation of babies (I’m 38 so not that old yet lol). Come on. I get scent is hard for people, so ask the flight attendant if there’s somewhere they could be while their row mate eats. Problem solve. Come on (insert eye roll here)
Yeah no this had nothing to do with the smell, she's just tryna shame him from eating meat. But if his burger really is *pungent* then, for his well being, he should maybe not eat that. Sounds like the meat went bad lol. Wonder if she'd still complain if he was eating like,, stinky boiled cabbage
This whole entitled idea that the majority needs to bow to the whim of one person's egotism outburst is just ludicrous... if you're so precious, drive your car, charter a flight, wear a mask with a strong filter. Stop expecting everyone to placate your bubble... ugh!!! NTA
He's crazy for even considering that crazy woman's comments. I would've laughed in her face and tore the burger up. People are crazy but stand up for yourself!
If you were as hungry as you say you were, it's not like you were fiddlefarting around with your meal. I'm basing my evaluation on a medium meal sold my a redheaded girl with braids, I bet that could be eaten quickly in 10 minutes (though I've seen much quicker). So this lady is visibly disgusted by your meal - her right, but tacky and inching toward the Karen stereotype. But she can't observe for just a minute and then suck it up for the couple minutes it would take OP to finish and put his trash in the paper bag, eliminating the problem smells? There was literally no reason the air crew needed to be involved with that. Does she not know that she has to pay for special treatment at an airline? NTA.
Burger and fries is not a great choice for a flight, definitely smelly and irritating for other passengers forced to be in close quarters. OP is technically in the right but could have been considerate and ordered a chicken wrap or something less nasally intrusive.
OP wanted a burger and some fries so that's what they got.
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Neither of them have the least amount of empathy to feel with the other person. If it is within your rights to eat smelly fast food with the justification that airline isn’t providing decent food, then other passengers are within their rights to fart right next to you while you’re eating, and same goes with the hungry person who might have not find time to eat the burger outside the airplane so they felt forced to eat it onboard and the other person couldn’t feel with them either, if wars must be waged so they’re waged in all directions. If only both had enough empathy to talk it out in a pleasant way then none of this would have happened. Etiquette people, that’s what’s needed. Also I’m vegan.
If the vege person pulled out some disgusting beet sandwich that smells like an old cellar full of 10 year old potatoes, do you think a complaining carnivore would convince them to put it away? No. Why these vegans and vegetarians always seem like such delicate wimps? Not gonna recruit anyone with that attitude
They are both a******s. Bringing smelly food into a small enclosed space where your neighbor has no option of getting away makes you an a*****e. Being an intolerant vegetarian makes one an a*****e also.
How is OP the AH? He didn't even have enough time to sit and eat before catching the next flight. He had to grab something quick and go. He also had permission saying it was fine from two employees. OP did nothing wrong.
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No sympathy for vegetarians here but...Im kind of annoyed by people who buy meals in the airport then eat it next to me. Especially if its really aeromatic like chinese food.
Unfortunately, some transfer flights don't always allow enough time to seat and eat, let alone buy food. Had a transfer once where I had to immediately run to my next flight. There was no time to even buy food. So people on flights just need to suck it up. Also long trips that include meals that have meat in it, so she would have had to still deal with a meat smell anyway.
Load More Replies... How she feels is her issue to deal with. Ignoring her was kinda rude. Acknowledge her feelings and keep eating. A simple, "thank you for sharing that with me" is all that's needed.
This is why i am not friends with vegans/vegetarians. They always try to shame you and FORCE thier lifestyle on you. To all the decent ones out thier sorry but personally in my experience. The people who don't eat meat that i have met have been a******s.
And they always tell you that they are. I couldn't be with a woman who was a vegetarian/vegan.
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Just tell her it's a plant-based Impossible Burger, then comment how wonderful they taste and you're so glad you switched to save the animals. Then chow down on your beef burger while she ponders that! LMAO!!!!
Well.... I love burgers... but I´d never bring fastfood into any closed space transportation situation. That´s just f*****g disgusting imo...
It's nauseous not nautious. If food smells bother you bring a mask and put it on.
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People. Unless you are very allergic and possibly affected (like with a nut allergy) it is none of your business what your seat neighbor eats.
It's all well and good until someone brings surströmming in the plane
Load More Replies... A lifelong vegetarian spewaking: Get. Over. It. I have been in places where they boil intestines to eat them. their food choice, not mine. If they aren't force-feeding me, no issue. The smell of beef may make me want to move far away, but that doesn't mean someone isn't allowed to eat it on my say-so.
Nta. Nobody gets to decide what someone else eats. It's absurd and totally disrespectful to expect someone not eat something because you don't like it.
I agree. I hate fish and the smell of it, but it is none of my business what someone else eats.
Load More Replies... Had a similar reaction while riding greyhound once. We stopped to refuel and the driver told us to take a break, get food, whatever...but be back in 20 mins. So I got two Arby's roast beef sandwiches and decided against the curly fries since they can have a strong smell. I get back to my seat, pull out two small baggies to put the meat and buns in (hate soggy bread with a passion) and it's all good till I'm hungry 3 hours later. Remake the sandwich, take a bite, swallow and the guy two seats ahead stands up and starts to go to the back of the bus. He stops behind me and in a crude, huffy demeanor starts raving about the meat smell affecting him, making him sick and how disrespectful I am for his meatless diet. Seriously? The sandwich was cold and without smell. At least I was nice enough not to go to the very back of the bus and warm up the meat! I put on my headphones, hit play on my CD player and finished my meal. Why are some people so...idiotic?
It's not like he's allergic to it. He should've taken a vegan bus then.
Load More Replies... This is why people find vegans insufferable. They get more respect if they reined in their entitlement and bad attitude.
I'm a vegetarian, but I never force it on others. Some things do ruin my appetite though, if for example somebody at my table orders snails or lobster. I would just politely excuse myself from that evening then, no harm done. Not all of us are like that and I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't throw us in one pile.
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Load More Replies... Reminds me of that one vegan complaining to her neighbors about them barbecuing.I know plenty of vegans who don't care if you eat meat in front of them, the ones that make it a big deal are the ones that want to feel "special."
A burger and fries is one of the better things I might smell on the plane. Some smells can't be helped. Others can. Super rude to me is women (and sometimes men) who wear too much of a really pungent perfume. I sometimes wonder if these are people who have lost their sense of smell and don't realize how F....ing offensive they are. And I'm a guy. Women supposedly have a more sensitive sense of smell.
Unless she has an allergy, it's not her business. (Yes, there are allergens that can affect people solely be particles in the air. But if she had that, she would have booked a specified seat ahead of time.) The smell was not "pungent" because no one else reacted that way. She lied about that because she knew what it was and wanted to dictate someone else's choice of food.
I'm Jewish, but as far as I'm concerned you can eat pork ribs next to me. But I might drool a little... it's okay, I'm not a weirdo; I swear.
I wouldn't tell anyone that you wanted some of my pork 😏
Load More Replies... My mom gets migraine when she smells cooking meat. She never complains about it. She will give heads up if she is visiting our home. These people so entitled.
As a vegan, these types of people with plant-based diets make me absolutely livid. I admit, I can't bear the smell of meat, but I am not going to yell at someone due to their dietary choices. I don't care. Being vegan is my choice and I don't expect others to give up what they enjoy eating because of it.
I was vegan for 8 years-- not once did I shame or b***h about another person's food or food smells, it was my roommates who gladly ate meat that would hover over my cooking, tell me I had better not segment off any cookware for vegan food only and then they would pig out on my food. Folks just really need to stop being petty and obnoxious.
The comment about being considerate should Also include the complainer. Not your plane, not your rules. It was oked by the flight attendant. Get over yourself.
I'm a vegan but that's my choice! in my opinion she had no right to say anything (unless it was at a vegan restaurant etc)
I'd have savored the food even more. I consider myself quite well-mannered, but in this case, I would have thrown some post-meal farts into the mix. 😂
Burger and fries is a pungent smell to be fair. I can smell it in the car for a couple of days after we get Macs and it's the vegan ones. I know I don't fly much (and when I do it's 10+ hours) but I never seen/smelled anyone eating anything apart from the meals provided on the plane, apart from kids eating sweets
They didn't tell you? This is the carnivore flight. You need to get on the vegetarian and vegan flight.
It's these vegans who give the rest of them a bad name. I agree with the point that the sooner she let's him eat his food the sooner she will cease smelling it. Demanding someone go hungry for 8 hours is extremely inconsiderate.
That vegetarian passenger is free to disembark and look for a seat on the next available flight if they/them are that offended by meat and fried foods.
Wow. What utter privilege (I know, anyone flying has some degree of privilege) to whine about what someone else is eating. It's not hurting others, it's an item available for purchase on the plane. Did the person believe every human was also veg? These types make all the community look bad.
I spent 8 hours on a flight in the vicinity of someone that most likely not enjoying their flight 😆, with the kind of gas the mystery person was releasing, I am sure they couldn't wait to use a bathroom that wasnt public. It was terrible but we all survived the ordeal. 8 hours trapped in a tube of hot smelly gas was a small price to pay to get to my destination in hours rather than days or weeks.
I haven't eaten meat in 13 years, but I absolutely know, and understand, that you don't get to make food choices for others, unless maybe you invited them to your house for dinner. Just because you've made a choice does not mean anyone else cares about it.
Had someone eating fish and chips witb a big cup of vinegar. If I smell vinegar I want to throw up, so I got to change seats. Some people might have a bad allergic reaction to some smells on an airplane.
Yeah, but no one has an allergy just by smelling hamburger meat. The entitled lady should have changed seats if she was so offended, yet she sat there complaining, so it couldn't be that bad.
Load More Replies... Consideration is recognizing that this person is hungry and had not had a chance to eat before the flight for a variety of reasons ... there are things I wish a m**********r would ... tell me I can't eat what I can ... tell me I can't speak a language I can ... tell me I can't watch a movie I can ... tell me I can't do anything I can ... I'm certain that in a general setting outside of a flight, that person is not putting up a fuss about what other people are doing that she cannot stand ... entitlement is a "disease" ...
She sounds pregnant to me. When my ex made chicken, eeeww the smell in the house or beef. Now I just make it myself.
Load More Replies... ... without the other side, every AITA is preconditionend to resut in NTA. I have seen people who were "just eating their food" who enjoyed making some stranger feel miserable by various ways and without any reason to. Of course, when telling their friends about it, they just were peacefully eating and were terrorized by some out-of-their-mind nutcase.
And yet there are still many, many aita posts that do result in a YTA verdict. Considering this was about the smell before op event started *eating*, i think this specific criticism is moot.
Load More Replies... As a vegetarian I'll say this on behalf of most vegetarians. We don't eat meat, that's our choice and we have to put up with other people's choice to eat what ever the choose to. No one likes all smells. Personally my pet hate is pork, but that is my problem not the person who is eating it. Get over yourself, you'll be a better person for it, the world isn't here to make us happy or anyone else, our job us to learn how to get on with each other
Unless you are deathly allergic to the food you have no right to stop the person eating, I have a great sense of smell and can't stand the stench that comes from certain fake "meats" but I wouldn't demand a Vegan not eat next to me because I have the common courtesy to show respect for others people's rights and freedoms.
This is an ESH. You don't take hot food on a plane, train, or bus. It stinks, everyone can smell it, vegetarian or not, and they're trapped with your gross food smell going through the recycled air for the rest of the flight. The vegetarian was definitely being an a*s as well, but the OP was not extending basic courtesy in the first place.
Sav thing is, airlines used to feed people when they were on a flight that long. They still should as far as I'm concerned. Eight hours is a long time without food for anyone, and the entitled woman beside you had no right to tell you what you could eat. Burgers and fries aren't all that pungent: what would she have done if it had been liver and onions?
Some context- I'm a vegetarian and have an ULTRA sensitive stomach for pretty much everything. And by pretty much everything I mean, water, fruit, sugar, perfume, alcohol, any type of fat, dairy, motion, headaches, anti-nausea medication... you get it. The smell of fried food and meat will make me vomit under the right circumstances. At minimum it will make me very nauseous. This is my problem, nobody else's. I always do my best to deal with the nausea as subtley as possible. I have literally never asked someone not to eat their own food near me. It is completely unreasonable to ask someone to hold off eating for 8hr, nevermind in such a rude way. The woman should have discreetly asked if there was an open seat or if she could hangout in the galley until the food was done so as not to insult the writer. At some point people have to realize the world does not accommodate individuals.
NTA. She can deal with it. It's coach, not her home. Airlines don't serve proper food.
Describing a burger as pungent.... WOW. Strong, the olfactory hallucinations are with this Karen. Meditate on this, she must.
I would likely have gone passive aggressive on her.. I might have I'm so sorry you are sensitive. The barf bags are right there.
Wow. I have been on many an international flight where people are free to bring home cooked food to eat during the flight. Sometimes the smell is a bit too much so I learned to bring a scarf that I sewed in a piece of cloth that I can place some EO on and use it to cover my face. I then just go to sleep.
NTA. I'm not a vegetarian but I'm very sensitive to smells especially when it comes to fast food and greasy/fried foods. The smell of McDonald's alone makes me extremely nauseous (i can only eat 3 or 4 fries before i feel like hurling), even more so in closed off spaces but if it happens that often you prepare for it. I bring essential oils or perfume so I can cover up the smell. I'll sniff an article of my clothing (like a scarf, mask, or shirt) or even my hair if I don't have anything else on me. She should be used to it if she's that sensitive and she should plan ahead. I'd never demand someone to stop eating simply because of my hypersensitivity to certain food scents.
If you would have put it away, she still would have smelled it because fast food smell permeates the air around it. So she would have had to smell it the entire flight. You were doing her a favor by eating it and getting rid of the smell. Lol
Interesting… I am VERY sensitive to some of the ingredients in perfume. They make me cough and sneeze. SO many people (both men and women) overuse cologne. They DON’T NEED IT, so not the same as feeding yourself, a requirement to stay alive, healthy and comfortable. People don’t care about others - think about how many people refuse to get vaccines, wear masks, etc.). Protect yourself. Bring whatever you need to, in order to ensure that other’s behavior does not affect you. When I am flying, I use an eye mask, ear plugs, and a nose plug and mask to protect myself. People have a right to do a lot of things that may bother you. Get over it!!! NTA -people need to eat. Up to the Vegan to protect themselves. However, I do think that it is inappropriate for people to bring allergens on an aircraft/bus. For me, the problem is an allergy, so I protect myself. So sad that so many show zero consideration for others, but also so sad that people do not protect themselves
Personally, I bring peppermint oil on planes to dab under my nose, because people and things on planes tend to smell awful.
NTA. Think of each seat on a plane as your own personal, tiny, pod. What you do in the pod us pretty much your own business unless it affects multiple people and rows around you, like excessive profanity or unwanted physical contact. Eat what you want, sleep if you want, read what you want, even watch what you want while wearing headphones. What you do, as long as you follow airline guidelines, is no one's business unless they are controlling/egotistical people. She asked, OP responded, that should have ended it.
Sorry, we don't need to live our life so nobody else dislikes it. I don't have to like you, you don't have to like me. You can be offended but I don't need to change. We all need to deal with others doing what irritates us. We are all entitled to free speech, don't need to have it approved by everyone else. If it's not against the law, others may do as they please. None of us are entitled to be satisfied or liked. Sometimes we are not meant to be included. We can stop demanding others accommodate us.
Perhaps her perfume smells bad to others and they are too polite to say anything.
As we see, pretty much no one thinks the b*tchy vegetarian is in the right here. Case closed.
The commenter who said he would eat with his mouth open is a special kind of jerk that you run into online. They love to go on vegan sites and brag about how much dead animals they are gobbling. What marvelous people they must be!
I've been vegetarian for more than fifty years and don't like the sight or smell of meat but I know the reality is that most people eat meat so I look the other way. And hope they will wake up eventually to the cruelty they are enabling. It doesn't make me sick, just sad.
Yes yes you have let everyone know you are a vegetarian. You're job today is done
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The way I see it, the sooner the offended party let's them eat their burger in peace, the sooner the smell will dissipate. If she made the OP put the food away, she would be smelling burger and fries for the entire flight. The vegetarian needs to learn that they can't control what others do. They can only control their own reactions to them.
It is an a*****e move to eat smelly foods in public transport. But at that point you already had the burger on the plane, so everyone was going to smell it either way. Might as well eat it then, since you're very hungry. Next time just pick something that doesn't have a strong smell.. It's simply common courtesy. Also the woman was being an a*****e as well. She had the right to ask you to stop I suppose, but she should've accepted the answer.
NTA Now if you started making mooing sounds before taking a bite of your burger.... still NTA
Man I hate vegetarians or vegans that feel the need to make everyone conform to their diet. I would literally be starving to death if I had to, because if I don't get a consistent source of protein everyday, my blood sugar plummets and I will faint. And I don't eat nuts or any meat replacements. I literally can't. I'm extremely sensitive to textures, particularly with vegetation, and if I try to eat a texture that upsets me, no matter how much I may want it, that bad texture will trigger my gag reflex and I can't finish the meal. Ffs they really do be living in this made up world where dietary restrictions don't exist. Also like.. Most of the foods they eat that supplement the nutrients of meat are classified as some of the most common and dangerous food allergens. This isn't to say they're all like this, I personally know a vegan who is great and anytime we have a get together I always try to be considerate and provide something they can eat.
We all have to deal with things we don't like. She needs to get off her entitlement. Eat up. It's better then dealing with a man who's hangry.
I should add that there are many thousands of religious vegetarians and vegans in Asia. Never once in all my time there did a single one of them make an issue of the fact that they did not eat meat or that I did. I accepted the fact that if I ate at their home it would be a delicious vegetarian meal. If they ate with me I insured that there was a meal they would eat. If we ate out, at the same table mind you, there would be a mix of dishes we all liked. Nothing but respect in both directions. And these are people to whom vegetarianism is a religious tenet! It seems to only be in the western, particularly North American, mentality that one person should be catered to and that if you don't toe that line you are the one in the wrong. Live and let live I say!
There are nifty devices above the seats which blow air. They can be aimed in a range of directions. Vegetarian could have asked if they could aim theirs to blow the aroma away. Or put a bag over their head.
Ha. I recommend never traveling overseas to the snowflake crowd. In Korea I ended up sitting between two Korean gentleman. Both had evidently had kimchi for lunch. Thankfully I love the stuff but it was pungent. Nobody travels with food like Asians God bless them. They serve a pork chop lunchbox on the train in Taiwan that is to die for. And walking through any night market is a joy like none other. Vegans beware!
Drive or fly a private jet, otherwise don't complain. I fly to Florida about six or seven times a year. The flight crews always heat up their meals in a oven and the smell takes over the whole plane. I'm stuck eating chips or nuts while the smell of wonderful food is wafting up my nose. Not fair but better than driving.
. If one is a vegan then the meat eater also has the right to eat ... vegan can't stop a eat eater to comply with their wishes... I guess vegan eater must start a vegan flight...
Everyone talk about consideration but it’s usually one way. I’m not such a fan of the AITA phrasing bc I’m not sure it’s so black and white. I agree with the problem of allergies but this is not the case here. When I’m a flight that long where should one eat, the bathroom?! Get over yourself and breathe through your mouth. I’ve been pregnant 6 times (!!!) and I never (besides for my husband) put restrictions on people I knew or didn’t. People have to get over themselves. It’s like we’re a generation of babies (I’m 38 so not that old yet lol). Come on. I get scent is hard for people, so ask the flight attendant if there’s somewhere they could be while their row mate eats. Problem solve. Come on (insert eye roll here)
Yeah no this had nothing to do with the smell, she's just tryna shame him from eating meat. But if his burger really is *pungent* then, for his well being, he should maybe not eat that. Sounds like the meat went bad lol. Wonder if she'd still complain if he was eating like,, stinky boiled cabbage
This whole entitled idea that the majority needs to bow to the whim of one person's egotism outburst is just ludicrous... if you're so precious, drive your car, charter a flight, wear a mask with a strong filter. Stop expecting everyone to placate your bubble... ugh!!! NTA
He's crazy for even considering that crazy woman's comments. I would've laughed in her face and tore the burger up. People are crazy but stand up for yourself!
If you were as hungry as you say you were, it's not like you were fiddlefarting around with your meal. I'm basing my evaluation on a medium meal sold my a redheaded girl with braids, I bet that could be eaten quickly in 10 minutes (though I've seen much quicker). So this lady is visibly disgusted by your meal - her right, but tacky and inching toward the Karen stereotype. But she can't observe for just a minute and then suck it up for the couple minutes it would take OP to finish and put his trash in the paper bag, eliminating the problem smells? There was literally no reason the air crew needed to be involved with that. Does she not know that she has to pay for special treatment at an airline? NTA.
Burger and fries is not a great choice for a flight, definitely smelly and irritating for other passengers forced to be in close quarters. OP is technically in the right but could have been considerate and ordered a chicken wrap or something less nasally intrusive.
OP wanted a burger and some fries so that's what they got.
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Neither of them have the least amount of empathy to feel with the other person. If it is within your rights to eat smelly fast food with the justification that airline isn’t providing decent food, then other passengers are within their rights to fart right next to you while you’re eating, and same goes with the hungry person who might have not find time to eat the burger outside the airplane so they felt forced to eat it onboard and the other person couldn’t feel with them either, if wars must be waged so they’re waged in all directions. If only both had enough empathy to talk it out in a pleasant way then none of this would have happened. Etiquette people, that’s what’s needed. Also I’m vegan.
If the vege person pulled out some disgusting beet sandwich that smells like an old cellar full of 10 year old potatoes, do you think a complaining carnivore would convince them to put it away? No. Why these vegans and vegetarians always seem like such delicate wimps? Not gonna recruit anyone with that attitude
They are both a******s. Bringing smelly food into a small enclosed space where your neighbor has no option of getting away makes you an a*****e. Being an intolerant vegetarian makes one an a*****e also.
How is OP the AH? He didn't even have enough time to sit and eat before catching the next flight. He had to grab something quick and go. He also had permission saying it was fine from two employees. OP did nothing wrong.
Load More Replies... No sympathy for vegetarians here but...Im kind of annoyed by people who buy meals in the airport then eat it next to me. Especially if its really aeromatic like chinese food.
Unfortunately, some transfer flights don't always allow enough time to seat and eat, let alone buy food. Had a transfer once where I had to immediately run to my next flight. There was no time to even buy food. So people on flights just need to suck it up. Also long trips that include meals that have meat in it, so she would have had to still deal with a meat smell anyway.
Load More Replies... How she feels is her issue to deal with. Ignoring her was kinda rude. Acknowledge her feelings and keep eating. A simple, "thank you for sharing that with me" is all that's needed.
This is why i am not friends with vegans/vegetarians. They always try to shame you and FORCE thier lifestyle on you. To all the decent ones out thier sorry but personally in my experience. The people who don't eat meat that i have met have been a******s.
And they always tell you that they are. I couldn't be with a woman who was a vegetarian/vegan.
Load More Replies... Just tell her it's a plant-based Impossible Burger, then comment how wonderful they taste and you're so glad you switched to save the animals. Then chow down on your beef burger while she ponders that! LMAO!!!!
Well.... I love burgers... but I´d never bring fastfood into any closed space transportation situation. That´s just f*****g disgusting imo...
It's nauseous not nautious. If food smells bother you bring a mask and put it on.
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