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Man Refuses To Continue Pay-It-Forward Chain, Asks The Internet If He’s A Jerk
Man Refuses To Continue Pay-It-Forward Chain, Asks The Internet If He’s A Jerk
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Man Refuses To Continue Pay-It-Forward Chain, Asks The Internet If He’s A Jerk

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An unexpected act of kindness from a random stranger can turn your entire day around. Perhaps someone stops you as you’re exiting an elevator to tell you how beautiful your hair is. Maybe a good samaritan pulls over to help you change a tire. Or a friendly barista decides that your drink is on the house today.

These moments can restore my faith in humanity faster than almost anything else. But it’s important that when we go out of our way to be kind to others, we don’t expect anything in return. One man was recently shamed for ending a “pay it forward” chain at a food court, so he reached out to Reddit to see if he was in the wrong. Below, you’ll find the full story, as well as a conversation with the man who posted it.

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    Customers often like to “pay it forward” at fast food establishments to provide random acts of kindness to strangers

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    But when one man decided that he wouldn’t keep the chain going, he was immediately met with judgment

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    “This act felt very performative”

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    To find out more about this situation, we reached out to the Reddit user who shared this story, . He was kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda about whether or not he’s ever participated in these chains before.

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    “I’ve never been part of a food ‘pay it forward chain’, although it’s not the first time a stranger has paid for my purchase before,” the author shared. “Once, I forgot my wallet, and my kids were crying from hunger, and the lady at the next table said she was done with her pizza and we could finish it. That lady is going to heaven.”

    The OP said he’s also been on the receiving end of help in big and small ways throughout his life. “My car was stuck, and a retired trucker helped me get back on the road. I asked, ‘How can I pay you back?’ He laughed and said, ‘Pay it forward! That’s what it’s all about!’ That will stay with me forever.”

    Because of that, Ganbario certainly isn’t against showing kindness to strangers. “It ran through my head when the woman in front of me at the grocery store had her credit card declined, and I knew I could give her a little help,” he told Bored Panda. “But this guy at the food cart, this act felt very performative.”

    “He put me on the spot and expected me to immediately pay for the person behind me,” he explained. “I didn’t feel like I’d been given a gift so much as an obligation. I shared the story because I was truly unsure at the moment if I had done the right thing – is this a real expectation in our society, like tipping?”

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    “I felt guilty. I had received a benefit and the man’s disappointment made me feel small and selfish,” the author continued. But thankfully, his worries were assuaged by the replies to his post. “Commenters reassured me that a gift shouldn’t come with strings attached, or it’s no gift at all. Many who participated in chains in the past told me that they felt coerced, and they would rather not have been included.”

    “Pay it forward” chains are often nightmares for employees

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    In theory, the idea of “paying it forward” in a coffee shop or drive-through sounds lovely. You go out of your way to treat someone else, and in return, they might be inspired to pass along that kindness to another stranger. In reality, however, there are a host of issues that can arise from these sorts of “pay it forward” chains. 

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    As the author pointed out, these can be a nightmare for employees to coordinate. And you might end up paying $20 for someone else’s meal, while you only ordered a small black coffee. Unfortunately, some people will take advantage of this by ordering extra desserts or drinks, while others might feel pressure not to order what they had originally intended if it’s too expensive.

    Food Republic explains on their site that it may feel generous to “pay it forward” to another customer, but it’s only making the employees’ lives harder. It forces them to deviate from their routine, which can be stressful when there’s a line out the door or cars wrapped around the building. Many workers would actually prefer if customers just end the chain early on.

    Starbucks employees told Taste of Home that these kinds of chains are an easy way to cause confusion and get orders mixed up, especially for drive-through lines. At Starbucks in particular, some customers also get annoyed when someone else pays for their order if they had benefits expiring on their app or needed to make the purchase for a promotion.  

    Plus, if someone is already in line at Starbucks, there’s no question that they can afford the drink that they were about to order. Not to mention the fact that someone has to break the chain eventually. There’s no reason to drag it out if the end result is the same: only one person gets a free order.

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    It’s often better to just leave a generous tip for the workers instead

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    So what is a better alternative to keeping these “pay it forward” chains going? Well, many employees would prefer that customers simply give them a generous tip. In the United States, fast food workers earn about $36,749 per year. Meanwhile, the average salary nationwide is $63,795

    Putting a little extra money into the pockets of these hardworking employees is arguably even better than helping out one person who could have afforded their coffee (or popcorn or beer, etc.) already. 

    And, of course, you can always find creative ways to “pay it forward” in other aspects of your life as well. GreenLight recommends buying the meal of a loved one to brighten their day or leaving a kind note on someone’s windshield. It’s also a great idea to volunteer at a local charity or donate blood. You can help an elderly person with their groceries or household chores or tip a service worker extremely generously.

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    Showing up to your office with homemade baked goods is sure to put a smile on your colleagues, and mentoring a young person in your life might have a huge impact on their future. If you’ve had great experiences at a local business, remember to leave them a heartfelt review and spread the word. And encourage those around you to perform random acts of kindness as well.

    We would love to hear your thoughts on this story in the comments below, pandas. Do you think this man was wrong for ending the “pay it forward” chain? Then, if you’d like to check out another Bored Panda article discussing this topic, look no further than right here!  

    The vast majority of readers agreed that the man was under no obligation to keep the chain going

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    Reddit comment discussing views on ending a "pay it forward" chain and its impact versus helping those in need.

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    Comment discussing refusal to continue "pay it forward" concept, calling it virtue signaling and offering alternative phrasing.

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    Text discussing the reasons for not continuing a pay-it-forward chain due to potential large costs.

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    Comment discussing the confusion of "pay it forward" chains and suggesting supporting local food banks instead.

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    Comment discussing a customer not continuing a pay it forward chain, with personal views on the practice.

    Comment discussing refusing to continue a pay-it-forward chain, suggesting tipping the underpaid register worker instead.

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    Comment on refusal to continue a "pay it forward" chain, calling them ridiculous.

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    However, a small minority thought that the author was in the wrong

    Reddit comment criticizing refusal to maintain a pay it forward chain, stating “YTA. It’s a no brainer.”

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    Adelaide May Ross

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    Howdy, I'm Adelaide! I'm originally from Texas, but after graduating from university with an acting degree, I relocated to sunny Los Angeles for a while. I then got a serious bite from the travel bug and found myself moving to Sweden and England before settling in Lithuania about three years ago. I'm passionate about animal welfare, sustainability and eating delicious food. But as you can see, I cover a wide range of topics including drama, internet trends and hilarious memes. I can easily be won over with a Seinfeld reference, vegan pastry or glass of fresh cold brew. And during my free time, I can usually be seen strolling through a park, playing tennis or baking something tasty.

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    Adelaide May Ross

    Adelaide May Ross

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    Howdy, I'm Adelaide! I'm originally from Texas, but after graduating from university with an acting degree, I relocated to sunny Los Angeles for a while. I then got a serious bite from the travel bug and found myself moving to Sweden and England before settling in Lithuania about three years ago. I'm passionate about animal welfare, sustainability and eating delicious food. But as you can see, I cover a wide range of topics including drama, internet trends and hilarious memes. I can easily be won over with a Seinfeld reference, vegan pastry or glass of fresh cold brew. And during my free time, I can usually be seen strolling through a park, playing tennis or baking something tasty.

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    This lazy panda forgot to write something about itself.

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    Bob Brooce
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You've got to be a world class moron to think that forcing an obligation on somebody is a random act of kindness.

    Ms.GB
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus the movie theatre snack bar is the worst possible place to do that. If somebody is expecting to start a chain (which I agree with you, defeats the purpose) at least make it someplace where ppl don't already feel like they're being ripped off! That guy was getting a popcorn refill, now he's gotta buy overpriced snacks for 5 ppl!? That's gonna be a huge price discrepancy.

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    Kathy Brooke
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK we have a 'pay it forward' scheme, by which when you can afford/feel grateful you can buy an extra coffee etc. This goes on a tab, and the café staff use it to give coffee to people who really can't afford it. Or on a good day, a hot meal. Not many places do it but this is so much better. Why pay for the random person behind you who might be hugely rich, when someone just came in who is buying one coffee to last all day so they can be in the warm? Also: food banks are for quiet generosity.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This I have read about and think it is a great thing. But whatever is described in the article above makes no sense at all.

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    Little Bit
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    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've not heard of this before and TBH I would feel awkward and uncomfortable if i was minding my own business and a complete stranger offered to pay for something for me. The OP is NTA. It should be entirely up to the individual to decide if and when they want to do something charitable. Nobody should be put under pressure to do so, not be judged for their decision.

    Ashlie Benson
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They do it at Starbucks drive-thrus around here A LOT. I've been to Starbucks one time and got like a $4 drink and they said there was a pay it forward chain so my bill was covered, would I like to pay the next order to keep it going? I asked how much that would be; $52.47!!!! Umm, hard pass.

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    Bob Brooce
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You've got to be a world class moron to think that forcing an obligation on somebody is a random act of kindness.

    Ms.GB
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Plus the movie theatre snack bar is the worst possible place to do that. If somebody is expecting to start a chain (which I agree with you, defeats the purpose) at least make it someplace where ppl don't already feel like they're being ripped off! That guy was getting a popcorn refill, now he's gotta buy overpriced snacks for 5 ppl!? That's gonna be a huge price discrepancy.

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    Kathy Brooke
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK we have a 'pay it forward' scheme, by which when you can afford/feel grateful you can buy an extra coffee etc. This goes on a tab, and the café staff use it to give coffee to people who really can't afford it. Or on a good day, a hot meal. Not many places do it but this is so much better. Why pay for the random person behind you who might be hugely rich, when someone just came in who is buying one coffee to last all day so they can be in the warm? Also: food banks are for quiet generosity.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This I have read about and think it is a great thing. But whatever is described in the article above makes no sense at all.

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    Little Bit
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've not heard of this before and TBH I would feel awkward and uncomfortable if i was minding my own business and a complete stranger offered to pay for something for me. The OP is NTA. It should be entirely up to the individual to decide if and when they want to do something charitable. Nobody should be put under pressure to do so, not be judged for their decision.

    Ashlie Benson
    Community Member
    9 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They do it at Starbucks drive-thrus around here A LOT. I've been to Starbucks one time and got like a $4 drink and they said there was a pay it forward chain so my bill was covered, would I like to pay the next order to keep it going? I asked how much that would be; $52.47!!!! Umm, hard pass.

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