Passenger Demands Toddler Move From Paid Seat: “Not Ask, But Demand”
Air travel with a child can be pretty stressful. You will probably have to endure some dirty looks if your toddler makes too much noise, you will have to entertain them while trapped inside a large metal tube and you can’t exactly get off whenever you want. But no matter what one does, it can be impossible to prepare for other passengers on their worst behavior.
A woman shared her frustration with an entitled couple who demanded that she take her toddler in her lap and give up one of the seats she paid for. We reached out to the woman in the story via private message and will update the story when she gets back to us.
It’s good to do everything you can to make your child comfortable when traveling
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But one woman encountered a demanding couple who wanted the seat she booked for her toddler
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Air travel often forces us to interact with the most annoying folks out there
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It goes without saying that air travel does come with some degree of discomfort. Even if we embrace the wonderful fact that you can be nearly anywhere on the globe in under a day or two, there are always a whole host of little irritations that can add up. Just getting to the airport, particularly in a foreign country, is its own task as most nations don’t build runways for large planes right in the middle of a major city.
Airports themselves also come with a series of small annoyances, waiting in lines, security checks that range from efficient to arbitrary and hostile. You might have to go through passport control or deal with checking luggage. All the while, you are surrounded by fellow travelers who might be tired, annoyed or simply nasty. Generally, in life, we can find ways to create some distance between ourselves and the worst people out there, but an airport (and airplane) forces us to be around them for extended periods of time.
Unfortunately, for the average flier, a young child is more a cause for concern than a random couple. The idea of a screaming child on a plane is generally accepted as a regular part of air travel that everyone has to suffer through at some point. From the side, it can be hard to blame a parent, as crying is the main way babies communicate really anything. Imagine you were in its tiny shoes, it’s loud, the air is dry and it seems pretty hard to get any sleep.
At the same time, as a passenger who has to endure possibly hours of screaming will forever remember this flight with terror. Loud, unceasing noise has been used as a torture method in the past, it’s truly not something most people can go through with ease. So it’s commendable that this woman chose to do everything in her power to ensure her toddler didn’t bother other people.
Entitled people often live in a universe of their own delusion
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Of course, good intentions mean nothing when they come up against the unstoppable force that is deeply entitled people. Let’s take a look at what this couple wanted. Instead of realizing that there are clearly better options around, they attempted to take a seat from a toddler. How exactly an adult could argue that a toddler getting a seat is “unfair” seems hard to understand. This woman could have bought 20 seats if she wanted to, it would not make a shred of difference.
In their dream scenario, they have made this woman carry a toddler on her lap for the entire flight so they can sit together. This makes sense, sitting together with your group on a flight is preferable to sitting with strangers. It’s also exactly the reason this woman wanted to sit with her toddler, but this has seemingly gone right over their dense skulls. While we won’t know if this is the case, it’s not hard to imagine that sitting on one’s parent’s lap is a lot more uncomfortable than a seat. The toddler would no doubt be squirming, complaining and perhaps at some point screaming and crying.
While this is purely speculation, it would seem that this couple would probably not enjoy a crying toddler sitting right next to them. As so often is the case, a deep sense of entitlement gets in the way of reason. After all, this couple was not asking, but demanding a seat that they had zero right to. Airplanes aren’t public transportation, although even on a city bus you can’t just go around telling people to give you a seat. The fact that they literally summoned a flight attendant is evidence that they truly had not internalized the fact that when you buy a seat, it’s yours.
Many readers sided against the couple
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You know, someone on any flight is probably cool with switching seats so someone else can sit with their partner/child. The FA would probably just have announced, or individually asked, for volunteers. If it's an even swap (they're not going from an expensive seat to a cheap seat with no compensation) and they're traveling alone, they probably won't mind. But that's a VOLUNTEER. You NEVER demand someone move, especially from their expensive seat to your cheap seat, and even more especially if you don't offer them any compensation for it. Then again, people like this couple aren't deep or critical thinkers. They're grown up toddlers, incapable of seeing past their own immediate comfort and their satisfaction in getting what they wanted and feel entitled to when they're not, then throwing loud, and sometimes violent, conniption fits if they can't get it.
my new line is - "sorry, I can't. I always sit in (insert seat # here) because that's the one my mother was in when her plane crashed." believe me, no one has a comeback after that! it also has the added benefit of people leaving me the eff alone cause no one wants to talk to you after hearing that!
LOVE IT!!! As a side note how people just don't go all batshit crazy on these asssholess is beyond me! It can be done quietly without drawing attention ... go all serial killer on them (again quietly) lol. Most people really don't want to deal with crazy LOL.
Load More Replies...If they're that desperate to sit next to each other they could have at least ASKED first. Nevertheless, you paid for the 2 tickets, idk where they thought they were going to get with their demands.
Repeat after me. Anytime anyone on a plane who isn't in uniform says anything like "Excuse me sir, would you mind..." The answer is no. I have responded in ASL sometimes, that's a hoot. Kind of a d**k to pretend to be deaf, but my deaf friend thought it was hilarious.
I don't mind switching seats as I often travel alone and just wanna read my book or nap. But demand anything from me or give me attitude, I won't move. People in the comments are right. No is a complete sentence.
Howsa bout you act like the adults you profess to be, sit in the seats you purchased for yourselves of your own free will and stop being total self centered a**wipes intent on making everyone elses flight plans a misery !!! 😊 OK I'm done venting
Call for the FA immediately. Those ash soles could have stressed the kid and made the entire flight a nightmare.
Stories like this have me dreading my long haul flights with my daughter at the end of the year. She'll be sitting in our laps. We just couldn't afford another seat for her. Flights are so damn expensive, but my family live on the other side of the world. We plan on asking the flight attendants if there are any extra seats, but we fully expect the planes to be totally full, given that we will be travelling at the most expensive time of the year.
If your child is under two you can request a bassinet that hangs off the forward wall that divides the planes first class, etc. I helped a mom seated next to me on a long haul flight by staying awake while she got a tiny bit of sleep. Those bassinets are a Godsend
Load More Replies...Why didnt they just ask a SINGLE SEATED ADULT if they could move so they can sit together rather than harass a "BABY"
The single seated adult shouldn't move either. Adults who failed to get themselves seated together need to just take their assigned seats and STFU.
Load More Replies...An adult made accommodations for a child before hand. You are amazing! Usually I have read how people with children want people to move for them. You planned and PAID MONEY FOR THIS! They were in the wrong. I'm thinking if the situation were reversed, they would not of moved for you. You did the right thing.
I wouldn´t even bother talking to these people. I would call the Attendant immediately and tell them they are harassing me and to please remove them from me.
There may be safety issues involved in placing a child on one's lap; for example, if there's a lot of turbulence. According to https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on-the-go/Pages/Flying-with-Baby.aspx: " If there is turbulence, or worse, it may not be physically possible to protect your baby in your arms. Turbulence is the number one cause of children's injuries on an airplane."
I would call the flight attendant and say that the couple are upsetting and threatening my child.
You want to sit with your whoever, book the seats in advance. They sound to be the type that would moan if your child was on your knee and was fussy and uncomfortable throughout the flight. You pay for a seat, you sit there.
The couple should have pre-paid for seats together, if that’s what they wanted. It’s nice if cabin crew can jiggle passengers around (if they’re happy to be jiggled), but, obviously, a parent/ guardian travelling with a child needs to stay with the child.
This reminds me of my first flight alone for a school trip to Washington DC, I had a windows seat assignment, and one of our teacher/chaperones demanded I give him my seat. I said "No." He got upset and irate that a 13 year old girl would stand up to him, the FA told him to take his seat, and stop bothering me. I was almost in tears at this teacher, and felt a bit threatened, too. 8 years later he was fired for assaulting another student on an in state trip. I really detest bullies and entitled jerks.
I feel the couple should fly in the baggage compartment at the back of the plane anywhere they travel...their behavior was appalling. Children are considered humans too you know. Pftt! They have a right to their paid seat period!
If you are on a puddle jumper, you have to state your weight before getting your seat so that weight is evenly distributed on both sides of the plane. I know, because that happened on a flight I was on. The lady being harrassed should have said that her excess weight would mess up the weight distribution of the plane and cause it to tilt to one side!
When I was younger I used to always want a window seat. Now that I am older, I always want an aisle seat, and when my husband and I travel together we always book aisle seats across from each other. I'm small, so I do okay. My husband is a little overweight, and needs the leg room b/c of bad hips and just old age. My three sisters were all flight attendants, so I'll have to ask them if they ever had this troble, and if so, what did they do about it. One time I fweas lucky enough to get the seat by the escape hatch, but I'm not strong enough to have to do what would be required if we had an emergency.
on my honeymoon, we flew for free since my BIL was a pilot. We were not assigned seats and were sat apart. We never asked anyone to more, it was only a 2 hour flight
The woman had no right to make such a demand. If they neglected to book their flight properly, they will know better next time.
I have given up air travel because of people like this and there seems to be more and more of them, are they breeding or being schooled on how to be a prize A, a-hole?
Yea once they are 2, it is against FAA to have them sit on your lap. No matter how small you have to buy a ticket. Luckily no one did this me or my toddler traveling.
You did not notice but it was the entitled couple who used the word "baby" to refer to the toddler with the paid booked seat. Even if the toddler was less than 2 years old, her seat was paid for and she needed to sit next to the adult accompanying her. The entitled people called her a baby to "strengthen" their case for this toddler sitting on the adult's lap even though it is illegal in this case due to the toddler's age. I really wish that a rule would be created where if you ask someone to give you a seat they paid for and to which they have said "no" but you persist harassing that person, then you, the entitled person(s), are deplaned and banned from that flight. I am suggesting this in order to make penalties for this entitled behavior in hopes that by penalizing these people, this will eventually curtail bad entitled behavior which had become so common on flights nowadays that flight attendants say it occurs on every flight!
Load More Replies...You know, someone on any flight is probably cool with switching seats so someone else can sit with their partner/child. The FA would probably just have announced, or individually asked, for volunteers. If it's an even swap (they're not going from an expensive seat to a cheap seat with no compensation) and they're traveling alone, they probably won't mind. But that's a VOLUNTEER. You NEVER demand someone move, especially from their expensive seat to your cheap seat, and even more especially if you don't offer them any compensation for it. Then again, people like this couple aren't deep or critical thinkers. They're grown up toddlers, incapable of seeing past their own immediate comfort and their satisfaction in getting what they wanted and feel entitled to when they're not, then throwing loud, and sometimes violent, conniption fits if they can't get it.
my new line is - "sorry, I can't. I always sit in (insert seat # here) because that's the one my mother was in when her plane crashed." believe me, no one has a comeback after that! it also has the added benefit of people leaving me the eff alone cause no one wants to talk to you after hearing that!
LOVE IT!!! As a side note how people just don't go all batshit crazy on these asssholess is beyond me! It can be done quietly without drawing attention ... go all serial killer on them (again quietly) lol. Most people really don't want to deal with crazy LOL.
Load More Replies...If they're that desperate to sit next to each other they could have at least ASKED first. Nevertheless, you paid for the 2 tickets, idk where they thought they were going to get with their demands.
Repeat after me. Anytime anyone on a plane who isn't in uniform says anything like "Excuse me sir, would you mind..." The answer is no. I have responded in ASL sometimes, that's a hoot. Kind of a d**k to pretend to be deaf, but my deaf friend thought it was hilarious.
I don't mind switching seats as I often travel alone and just wanna read my book or nap. But demand anything from me or give me attitude, I won't move. People in the comments are right. No is a complete sentence.
Howsa bout you act like the adults you profess to be, sit in the seats you purchased for yourselves of your own free will and stop being total self centered a**wipes intent on making everyone elses flight plans a misery !!! 😊 OK I'm done venting
Call for the FA immediately. Those ash soles could have stressed the kid and made the entire flight a nightmare.
Stories like this have me dreading my long haul flights with my daughter at the end of the year. She'll be sitting in our laps. We just couldn't afford another seat for her. Flights are so damn expensive, but my family live on the other side of the world. We plan on asking the flight attendants if there are any extra seats, but we fully expect the planes to be totally full, given that we will be travelling at the most expensive time of the year.
If your child is under two you can request a bassinet that hangs off the forward wall that divides the planes first class, etc. I helped a mom seated next to me on a long haul flight by staying awake while she got a tiny bit of sleep. Those bassinets are a Godsend
Load More Replies...Why didnt they just ask a SINGLE SEATED ADULT if they could move so they can sit together rather than harass a "BABY"
The single seated adult shouldn't move either. Adults who failed to get themselves seated together need to just take their assigned seats and STFU.
Load More Replies...An adult made accommodations for a child before hand. You are amazing! Usually I have read how people with children want people to move for them. You planned and PAID MONEY FOR THIS! They were in the wrong. I'm thinking if the situation were reversed, they would not of moved for you. You did the right thing.
I wouldn´t even bother talking to these people. I would call the Attendant immediately and tell them they are harassing me and to please remove them from me.
There may be safety issues involved in placing a child on one's lap; for example, if there's a lot of turbulence. According to https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/on-the-go/Pages/Flying-with-Baby.aspx: " If there is turbulence, or worse, it may not be physically possible to protect your baby in your arms. Turbulence is the number one cause of children's injuries on an airplane."
I would call the flight attendant and say that the couple are upsetting and threatening my child.
You want to sit with your whoever, book the seats in advance. They sound to be the type that would moan if your child was on your knee and was fussy and uncomfortable throughout the flight. You pay for a seat, you sit there.
The couple should have pre-paid for seats together, if that’s what they wanted. It’s nice if cabin crew can jiggle passengers around (if they’re happy to be jiggled), but, obviously, a parent/ guardian travelling with a child needs to stay with the child.
This reminds me of my first flight alone for a school trip to Washington DC, I had a windows seat assignment, and one of our teacher/chaperones demanded I give him my seat. I said "No." He got upset and irate that a 13 year old girl would stand up to him, the FA told him to take his seat, and stop bothering me. I was almost in tears at this teacher, and felt a bit threatened, too. 8 years later he was fired for assaulting another student on an in state trip. I really detest bullies and entitled jerks.
I feel the couple should fly in the baggage compartment at the back of the plane anywhere they travel...their behavior was appalling. Children are considered humans too you know. Pftt! They have a right to their paid seat period!
If you are on a puddle jumper, you have to state your weight before getting your seat so that weight is evenly distributed on both sides of the plane. I know, because that happened on a flight I was on. The lady being harrassed should have said that her excess weight would mess up the weight distribution of the plane and cause it to tilt to one side!
When I was younger I used to always want a window seat. Now that I am older, I always want an aisle seat, and when my husband and I travel together we always book aisle seats across from each other. I'm small, so I do okay. My husband is a little overweight, and needs the leg room b/c of bad hips and just old age. My three sisters were all flight attendants, so I'll have to ask them if they ever had this troble, and if so, what did they do about it. One time I fweas lucky enough to get the seat by the escape hatch, but I'm not strong enough to have to do what would be required if we had an emergency.
on my honeymoon, we flew for free since my BIL was a pilot. We were not assigned seats and were sat apart. We never asked anyone to more, it was only a 2 hour flight
The woman had no right to make such a demand. If they neglected to book their flight properly, they will know better next time.
I have given up air travel because of people like this and there seems to be more and more of them, are they breeding or being schooled on how to be a prize A, a-hole?
Yea once they are 2, it is against FAA to have them sit on your lap. No matter how small you have to buy a ticket. Luckily no one did this me or my toddler traveling.
You did not notice but it was the entitled couple who used the word "baby" to refer to the toddler with the paid booked seat. Even if the toddler was less than 2 years old, her seat was paid for and she needed to sit next to the adult accompanying her. The entitled people called her a baby to "strengthen" their case for this toddler sitting on the adult's lap even though it is illegal in this case due to the toddler's age. I really wish that a rule would be created where if you ask someone to give you a seat they paid for and to which they have said "no" but you persist harassing that person, then you, the entitled person(s), are deplaned and banned from that flight. I am suggesting this in order to make penalties for this entitled behavior in hopes that by penalizing these people, this will eventually curtail bad entitled behavior which had become so common on flights nowadays that flight attendants say it occurs on every flight!
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