Family Plans Fall Apart Over Neighbor’s Stubbornness, They Don’t See Any Issue
Owning a piece of land in a remote location sounds like a dream to many. For them, few things are better than getting to enjoy the starry skies and sounds of nature instead of light pollution and sounds of traffic.
For this redditor, a quiet remote location seemed like the more attractive option, too. That’s why they purchased two lots and made it into one large piece of land, so they have plenty of space. But soon enough the neighbors came asking to use said space, to which the landowner said no – a decision that split the netizens into camps. Scroll down to find the full story below.
For those seeking peace and quiet, a piece of land in a remote location sounds like a dream
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This landowner bought a huge piece of land so they had loads of space, which they weren’t willing to let their neighbors use
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Lately, quite a few people seem to be showing an interest in living in a rural area
Even though the trend over the last decades has been people leaving rural areas for cities, recent statistics show that there has been a spike of interest in rural life that started in 2020. Likely largely affected by the Covid-imposed lockdowns, quite a few people decided to change scenery for one a bit more tranquil than what the city has to offer.
A Gallup’s poll found that by the end of 2020, close to half (48%) of Americans said they’d like to live in a town or a rural area, rather than a city or a suburb, if they could choose to live anywhere. Back in 2018, only 39% would have opted for one of the former two.
According to Gallup, those already living in a rural area or a town are very unlikely to move into the city, as only 12% of respondents said they would prefer the latter. However, out of those living in the city, 30% would prefer to change places with residents of quieter locations.
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People want their neighbors to be quiet and peaceful, and respect their parking space, too
In the comments under the post, the OP shared that they, too, switched from living in a major city—where they spent the first 30 years of their life—to a place “in the middle of nowhere, where they can hear bugs and birds, and see stars and not have to listen to people yelling.”
But it seems that it’s not only people in rural areas that share the same sentiments regarding people yelling. According to a survey carried out in the UK, the thing people want more than anything else, in regards to their neighbors, is for them to be quiet and peaceful. (And the survey wasn’t seemingly based on the views of those living in rural areas only.)
They also want someone who’s friendly and chatty, and—almost nearly as importantly—they want someone who respects an individual’s parking space. The neighbors in the redditor’s story were clearly respectful enough to ask their fellow resident to let them use their property for parking; they even offered to pay for it and fix any damages, were their cars to cause any. But their arguments couldn’t make the redditor change their stance, which redditors seemed to have different opinions on.
Fellow redditors shared varying opinions in the comments
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Gentle reminder that you can be within your rights to do something and still be an a*****e. A driveway they aren't using on the other end of the property and from what I understand they can't even really see? Make them sign an agreement that you're not liable for any injuries and that they'll repair any damages and let them park there.
The one caveat is that liability waivers aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
Load More Replies...She proved her point about the grass being torn up though. It's her land, her decision and the neighbours are just being AH now on doubling down. They've always had parking issues but now that someone owns bigger land, they are EXPECTED to host a bunch of cars not even related to her? Nah. Doesn't matter what time of year it is - you don't expect other people to resolve known issues - like parking.
Sure, you don't have to solve anyone's issues... until you have an issue and guess what? They don't have to solve yours either. I hope you're all millionaires who can go without any favours from anyone, because you're setting yourselves for a big karma slap.
Load More Replies...Honestly, I just got stuck on "since the Panini started." I mean, I know it's "pandemic" but I keep imaging Killer Paninis or something.
Plant some trees. If she says yes then neighbours are always going to park there. Forever. And it is hard to go back to no once you have said yes and they start taking the p**s.
See that's the reason I say NTA. Because most often if you let someone do something once they'll continue to expect it and eventually it will become a major issue. Do I think OP could have let them park, yes. But did they have to? No absolutely not. I come from a large family and if we are going somewhere with limited parking we carpool or figure out street parking or something. We never make it someone else's problem. And if a neighbor wants to park several cars on your property get a parking contract created and signed immediately to avoid any potential liability issues or future issues with them wanting to park when it's not allowed.
Load More Replies...I love how the YTA answers include « your place, your rule » only to say afterwards that well, it’s not really her place as she SHOULD accept. As others have underlined, if she accepts today, they’ll ask again later and won’t understand if she suddenly say no. However she decides to use her land - and having space to be left in peace is a good one - it’s up to her, full stop. Neighbors may ask, but them not accepting her refusal makes me suspicious that that are not the respectable people they claim to be. Them asking before doing it was probably more to avoid trouble that out of real respect.
The question is am I the a*****e. Not am I justifiable. So the answer is yes they are an a*****e. You can do many things correctly and justifiably and still be an a*****e. I also want to point out that OP mentions that in 7 months nobody contacted them. They are almost lamenting this fact it sounds so whiney. It sounds to me like in 7 months they were respecting their right to privacy that she is so staunch about keeping. So which is it? Are you butt hurt that they didn't acknowledge you in 7 months? Or were they actually being good neighbors and leaving you alone?
Load More Replies...Just because OP was offered money, she wasn't obligated to accept. Just imagine somebody slipping and hurting themselves on OPs property. Who would be liable? OP of course. Neighbourly gestures cannot prevent liability claims
In litigious society, I would refrain from allowing anyone onto my property. All you need is one person to say there was a defect in your property that caused them injury and you are literally screwed. Your homeowners insurance will pay, if warranted, but, your rates will double or worse, they will not renew AND they will blackball you in the industry, so that you can not get coverage for a decent price, ever again. This is worse, if OP took money, then they are operating a business without license. and that can cause the homeowners insurance to deny coverage AT ALL. If the people are close to you and are friends, then MAYBE, otherwise, not a chance in hades. People today are always looking to make a buck off of someone else.
Not to mention the risk of theft or damage to the cars themselves. A large number of cars just parked on a back acre of nowhere might attract trouble. And who would be liable? The property owner. Or are they expected to sit out on there and guard to make sure nothing happens while on their property? No. Just no.
Load More Replies...I'm not sure why it's not possible for relatives to park a bit farther away and walk. The elderly ones can get dropped off, or pay a couple teenagers in the family to be valets.
I'm going to be devil's advocate here and say NTA. I too bought land so I don't have to deal with close neighbors and I'd resent having my privacy invaded. Lack of planning on their part does not constitute an emergency on mine. Its not lack of empathy, compassion, kindness, or whatever else. It's valuing what's yours. And I value my privacy and quiet more than interacting with people I have no desire to know. In 7 months they clearly weren't interested in introducing themselves or welcoming the new member. Until they wanted something that is. Firm NTA.
Gentle reminder that you can be within your rights to do something and still be an a*****e. A driveway they aren't using on the other end of the property and from what I understand they can't even really see? Make them sign an agreement that you're not liable for any injuries and that they'll repair any damages and let them park there.
The one caveat is that liability waivers aren't worth the paper they're printed on.
Load More Replies...She proved her point about the grass being torn up though. It's her land, her decision and the neighbours are just being AH now on doubling down. They've always had parking issues but now that someone owns bigger land, they are EXPECTED to host a bunch of cars not even related to her? Nah. Doesn't matter what time of year it is - you don't expect other people to resolve known issues - like parking.
Sure, you don't have to solve anyone's issues... until you have an issue and guess what? They don't have to solve yours either. I hope you're all millionaires who can go without any favours from anyone, because you're setting yourselves for a big karma slap.
Load More Replies...Honestly, I just got stuck on "since the Panini started." I mean, I know it's "pandemic" but I keep imaging Killer Paninis or something.
Plant some trees. If she says yes then neighbours are always going to park there. Forever. And it is hard to go back to no once you have said yes and they start taking the p**s.
See that's the reason I say NTA. Because most often if you let someone do something once they'll continue to expect it and eventually it will become a major issue. Do I think OP could have let them park, yes. But did they have to? No absolutely not. I come from a large family and if we are going somewhere with limited parking we carpool or figure out street parking or something. We never make it someone else's problem. And if a neighbor wants to park several cars on your property get a parking contract created and signed immediately to avoid any potential liability issues or future issues with them wanting to park when it's not allowed.
Load More Replies...I love how the YTA answers include « your place, your rule » only to say afterwards that well, it’s not really her place as she SHOULD accept. As others have underlined, if she accepts today, they’ll ask again later and won’t understand if she suddenly say no. However she decides to use her land - and having space to be left in peace is a good one - it’s up to her, full stop. Neighbors may ask, but them not accepting her refusal makes me suspicious that that are not the respectable people they claim to be. Them asking before doing it was probably more to avoid trouble that out of real respect.
The question is am I the a*****e. Not am I justifiable. So the answer is yes they are an a*****e. You can do many things correctly and justifiably and still be an a*****e. I also want to point out that OP mentions that in 7 months nobody contacted them. They are almost lamenting this fact it sounds so whiney. It sounds to me like in 7 months they were respecting their right to privacy that she is so staunch about keeping. So which is it? Are you butt hurt that they didn't acknowledge you in 7 months? Or were they actually being good neighbors and leaving you alone?
Load More Replies...Just because OP was offered money, she wasn't obligated to accept. Just imagine somebody slipping and hurting themselves on OPs property. Who would be liable? OP of course. Neighbourly gestures cannot prevent liability claims
In litigious society, I would refrain from allowing anyone onto my property. All you need is one person to say there was a defect in your property that caused them injury and you are literally screwed. Your homeowners insurance will pay, if warranted, but, your rates will double or worse, they will not renew AND they will blackball you in the industry, so that you can not get coverage for a decent price, ever again. This is worse, if OP took money, then they are operating a business without license. and that can cause the homeowners insurance to deny coverage AT ALL. If the people are close to you and are friends, then MAYBE, otherwise, not a chance in hades. People today are always looking to make a buck off of someone else.
Not to mention the risk of theft or damage to the cars themselves. A large number of cars just parked on a back acre of nowhere might attract trouble. And who would be liable? The property owner. Or are they expected to sit out on there and guard to make sure nothing happens while on their property? No. Just no.
Load More Replies...I'm not sure why it's not possible for relatives to park a bit farther away and walk. The elderly ones can get dropped off, or pay a couple teenagers in the family to be valets.
I'm going to be devil's advocate here and say NTA. I too bought land so I don't have to deal with close neighbors and I'd resent having my privacy invaded. Lack of planning on their part does not constitute an emergency on mine. Its not lack of empathy, compassion, kindness, or whatever else. It's valuing what's yours. And I value my privacy and quiet more than interacting with people I have no desire to know. In 7 months they clearly weren't interested in introducing themselves or welcoming the new member. Until they wanted something that is. Firm NTA.


































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