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Woman Marries Gay Best Friend To Escape The Church, Faces The Consequences Years Later
Woman Marries Gay Best Friend To Escape The Church, Faces The Consequences Years Later
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Woman Marries Gay Best Friend To Escape The Church, Faces The Consequences Years Later

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The first reason that comes to mind why people marry is love. However, the reality is sometimes far from that. Some couples ‘tie the knot’ because of legal or financial benefits, societal pressures, religious traditions, or overall security and stability. 

For redditor Proud_Pay_2128, love was also completely out of the marriage equation. She and her childhood friend decided to use it as a cover-up to leave their religious community. 4 years later, they revealed the secret, which stirred up some heated opinions. 

Scroll down to find the full story and a conversation with its author, as well as Dr. Stephanie Bloodworth, PsyD, LMFT, a licensed marriage and family therapist, who kindly agreed to tell us more about marriages of convenience.

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    Bored Panda was lucky enough to get in touch with the original poster of this story, who kindly agreed to answer a few questions in anonymity. When asked what inspired her to share it online, she told us that she wanted to get some insights and advice from other people and move on, “I wasn’t expecting it to get so big.”

    Even though their marriage with her ex-husband was out of convenience, she wasn’t missing anything in such a union. “My ex-husband and I really helped each other, and we were free to fulfill our sentimental or sexual needs with other people. It was funny for him to use the “married card” to get dates. He got way more dates than me, and now I’m not interested in dating, but it was so fun.”

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    When it comes to her family, she thinks going without contact would be the best option for her. “I’m a bit scared, but my ex-husband is helping me protect myself right now. I really don’t care about anybody back home. I have always been a black sheep anyway.”

    Looking back she doesn’t have any regrets using her marriage as a cover-up and leaving their religious community. “Our marriage was perfect compared to so many others. We never argued, never got mad at each other, we helped each other out.

    I kinda wish things were different so we could have real romantic feelings, but I think not having that made it work so well. We even celebrated our divorce together. I still love my ex-husband in a way, and I love to have him and his boyfriend in my life. I just think I can’t top that, so I’m not interested in dating or marriage. But overall, besides my stress and my scary situation, I’m happy with my life,” she fondly shared.

    “In many lavender marriages, the partners share a profound bond of friendship, camaraderie, and mutual respect”

    The original poster’s union with her gay friend falls under the term lavender marriage. It’s an alliance of convenience to hide the sexual orientation of one or both spouses. The phrase appeared around 1895 in the British press, when the color lavender was associated with homosexuality. 

    In the early 20th century, quite a few public figures used such marriages to conceal their real sexual orientation so they would be able to pursue a career, notably in the Hollywood industry. But even though the LGBTQ+ community has received growing acceptance, these alliances continue to exist for various personal reasons. 

    “In many lavender marriages, the partners share a profound bond of friendship, camaraderie, and mutual respect,” explains relationship counselor Paula Thompson. “They often enter into these unions knowing fully well the emotional implications and challenges they are likely to face. This understanding can foster deep emotional intimacy, albeit non-romantic, and mutual support between the partners.”

    That said, these unions aren’t without their challenges. Suppressing one’s true identity and living a dual life can lead to feelings of isolation, sadness, and frustration. Individuals who deceive their family and society at large may also experience guilt. Meanwhile, a platonic relationship can deprive individuals of the joy and fulfillment of a romantic bond.

    Not everyone seeks fireworks or grand gestures in a relationship

    Even though marriages of convenience might seem like the opposite of a happy union, not everyone seeks fireworks or grand gestures. “A marriage of convenience is entirely about the benefit the connection brings, whether it’s to the couple, their families, or a larger cultural structure,” says Dr. Stephanie Bloodworth, PsyD, LMFT, a licensed marriage and family therapist to Bored Panda.

    “Marriages of convenience can include political alliances and strategic business partnerships, as well as people marrying for healthcare coverage or to provide a heteronormative social front for gender and sexual minorities. Marriage, historically, was more often about sociopolitical and economic agreements than it was about love. The emphasis on marrying for love is a newer idea, but these days it gets more acceptance and less scrutiny than the concept of a marriage of convenience.”

    Some people are content with a reliable and caring connection, and that’s perfectly fine. There’s nothing wrong with choosing this type of relationship, as long as it feels right and is formed with mutual agreement and acceptance. What’s more, they don’t have to worry about losing feelings or being disappointed or betrayed by their partner. Instead, they can focus on their own goals and interests while respecting each other and their autonomy. A marriage of convenience offers practical and material benefits that have the potential to improve the quality of life for both parties. 

    “Marriages of any kind, including for convenience, can be successful given a few guidelines,” concluded Dr. Bloodworth.

    “Success is allowed to be different for everyone,” she adds. “What are the main goals of the connection? How will that be measured? And what are the individual experiences each person hopes to have? So long as the relationship works to fulfill these goals, it can be considered successful. What’s most important is that it works for the people involved, regardless of what others might think.”

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    Austeja Zokaitė

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    Hi, glad you swung by! My name is Austėja, and in the past, I was a writer at Bored Panda. In my time here, I’ve covered some fun topics such as scrungy cats and pareidolia, as well as more serious ones about mental health and relationship hiccups. You can check them out below! I hope you enjoy reading them as much as I enjoyed writing them:)

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    Austeja Zokaitė

    Austeja Zokaitė

    Writer, Community member

    Hi, glad you swung by! My name is Austėja, and in the past, I was a writer at Bored Panda. In my time here, I’ve covered some fun topics such as scrungy cats and pareidolia, as well as more serious ones about mental health and relationship hiccups. You can check them out below! I hope you enjoy reading them as much as I enjoyed writing them:)

    What do you think ?
    Anarchy_in_our_Souls
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good mothers don't want to marry their daughters off to disgusting old men...

    geezeronthehill
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another reason I avoid organized religion. Often seems to devolve into hatred and intolerance. Not to mention history's record of violence and bloodshed.

    Child of the King
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not all Christians are like OP's parents. I'm a Christian but I don't judge a person by their choices. I believe everyone has a will of their own. I believe in God. But I would never enforce it on others

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    Couragetcd
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was vibing with this story until at the end where she says she had a good mom. She knows her church was not right for her, she knew she needed to get away from it and avoid marrying someone her mother wanted her to marry. How does this person still see herself as having a good mother? Just because you weren't physically abused doesn't mean anything.

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Christian religion is nothing but a cult full of hate, bigotry and hypocrisy.

    Cool crow
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people, both of them, have guts! They did what they had to do to take care of themselves, and each other, to live an authentic life. Bravo.

    Michael Fernandez
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As I occasionally have to remind people, we’re barely a generation past Matthew Shepard being chained to a truck and dragged around until a word that BP censors happened. I actually had a coworker of nearly two decades whose sexuality wasn’t revealed until his funeral. A whole contingent of us coworkers sat there, stunned, in a church, as we came to the sudden realization that the guy lived a lie in his professional life because our company was rather conservative (in a risk averse sense, not a political sense). Anyone who helps anyone hide their sexuality in regressive cultural atmospheres gets a pass from me.

    Elizabeth Garrison
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I just say how much I love this? They supported each other and got out of an oppressive situation. They took care of each other until they were ready to be themselves without fear. Hooray for them!

    Sea Squirrel
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she indeed 'was a good mother after all', she wouldn't be mad. A good mother would be sad about the reasons why two young people had to team up like this. She would try to understand where she herself went wrong. And in the end, she would be proud. Her daughter is an independent young woman, who's not afraid to go against the rules in order to lead a happy life.

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religious cultists ruining lives part # 4925564642391.

    Bob Jones
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religion is the source of so much evil in the world

    Matthew Barabas
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    who gives a s**t about OP's mother? im glad this all worked out, and if shes upset, tough.

    Eric S.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually no, if she's upset it's icing on the cake. F her with something hard and sandpapery.

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    Rose the Cook
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is at least one agency in China that matches compatible gay singles for this sort of marriage to avoid parental tantrums due to the prevailing attitude towards gay people.

    Julia French
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My aunt did this in hte 1950s McCarthy mess so her best friend could keep his job

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She hasn't been a good mother to you, she wantes to forcibly keep you in a cult by trafficking you into sex slavery.

    Ginger Winters
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See that's an act of true love. Marrying someone to help them get away from oppression from their family even when you know they'll never care about you more than as friends. OP chose the friend zoned wife to help someone out and that's beautiful. I wish it never had to be but since it was im glad she did

    Roman Hans
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, OP didn't handle this perfectly. However, she's THE VICTIM & did what she needed to escape. She helped save two lives & that's the end that justified any freakin' means. Congrats to both on getting out -- as I did -- & I wish you long & wonderful lives.

    Anna Drever
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “ She has been a good mother to me after all”. No she really hasn’t. The mother’s love was conditional. OP basically had no other choice at the time or she’d have been strong armed into a marriage with a much older man.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, of the coursest! Religious nutcases provoke being lied to by not accepting anything at all, so they had it coming. Also doesn't sound like a good mother, but maybe she was on the more tamed side of that intrusive, overstepping, cruel cult. But, anyway, NTA - whatever gets you out of there without actual murder, is justified by necessity.

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Introducing a teen to old men re: marriage, which, had to be 'gross'?, I'd have done the same as the OP & her friend. Good on both of them, Cults destroy lives.

    Livingwithcfs
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Companionate have been used for a very very long time to get both men and women out of oppressive home lives. They did what they needed to do, telling her mother about the lie was probably her way of getting back for years of being told how to feel and think

    Abner_Mality
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't religion just splendid? Lol

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are sons not married off to fat old women?

    dremetrius
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you teach your children to fear you finding out who they really are, you are absolutely not entitled to any feelings when you do finally find out because they're finally far enough away from you to feel safe. Mom's feelings about the wedding and all the 'effort' she put into it are worth nothing. Hypothetical 'poor relatives' or no. They both participated in that wedding because they were both in actual danger of harm if they didn't find a way out.

    Ash
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is called a Lavender marriage. Totally legit. I haven't told my parents yet that I converted from Christianity and paganism and witchcraft. I'm hoping they'll figure it out from hints in my social media posts and just not ask me about it....

    Lindsay Kerch
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone who married a man who came out gay after 11 years of marriage, I think you’re the problem. I get helping your friend and I get you both were unhappy and it was the only way that worked. But as someone who LEGITIMATELY WENT THROUGH THIS, I have issues with your “heartbroken wife” game. I navigated it for real with two kids and it was devastating. You should have just owned up to it, you had nothing to lose.

    Tom De Paul
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In case you don't know, your mother is a hateful b*tch. Go NC with her and get on with your life.

    Kathy L
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IMHO, the couple's parents were the AHs in the first place for being so hardcore conservative religious that their children felt like this was the only solution. What if the man had felt safe being openly gay from the beginning? What if the woman had felt safe leaving that church as soon as she was an adult, without having to marry anybody? If parents are going to be whiny spoiled brats who throw a tantrum whenever kids turn out differently from what they wanted, then they have no right to whine about anything the kids do to escape their clutches.

    Kathy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one has a right to tell someone else what they have to believe, including family. You can't force someone to believe anything. You can make someone pay lip service to your beliefs and to act as though they believe, but's that's all. I presume OP's family never asked WHY they don't believe. I'm sure they don't want to know, as people who can't tolerate different beliefs almost never do as they are too insecure about their own, not that they would ever admit it. They may profess 100% confidence in some religious figure or scripture, but to say "you have to believe like this because I do" is completely ridiculous. It's fine for someone to believe; it's not fine for them to force their beliefs on others. Certain scriptures have been edited and deliberately misinterpreted over the centuries to give more control and authority to the religious institutions involved. There's no lack of historical evidence to that effect.

    Hollie Marie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of those shows that do good work but are still awful to watch about people who go into these religious cult places and smuggle people out in a windowless van at 2am or something.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "She has been a good mother, after all" ???

    ElfVibratorGlitter
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. The woman pretending to be upset when her partner "came out as gay"... Super cringe to me.

    Hey!
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, it could have been just amicable, like many divorces.

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    Natasha Clark
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP & "ex husband" are both complete a******s for many reasons. The money for the wedding could've went towards something else, wasted courthouse time filing paperwork (also perjury) & they were in no way, shape or form held against their will to please these church folks. You could've just left & lived your best life but chose to stay in an unnecessary marriage until someone dies for inheritance money? Shame on both of those entitled a******s.

    Mike m
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole marriage was a lot of drama to just move away and basically go no contact anyway. I support the OP BUT if i spent money on a fake wedding, i would consider suing.

    René Sauer
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, that was easy to determine: If OP is opposite of the church/religion, it automatically gets an NTA from me. But when the OP tries to use religion to justify whatever they are writing about, it immediately gets a YTA.

    Carl Roberts
    Community Member
    1 year ago

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    Now do one about a Mulim family with a similar story. Oh, that's right,. You wouldn't dare

    Anarchy_in_our_Souls
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good mothers don't want to marry their daughters off to disgusting old men...

    geezeronthehill
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another reason I avoid organized religion. Often seems to devolve into hatred and intolerance. Not to mention history's record of violence and bloodshed.

    Child of the King
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not all Christians are like OP's parents. I'm a Christian but I don't judge a person by their choices. I believe everyone has a will of their own. I believe in God. But I would never enforce it on others

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    Couragetcd
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was vibing with this story until at the end where she says she had a good mom. She knows her church was not right for her, she knew she needed to get away from it and avoid marrying someone her mother wanted her to marry. How does this person still see herself as having a good mother? Just because you weren't physically abused doesn't mean anything.

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Christian religion is nothing but a cult full of hate, bigotry and hypocrisy.

    Cool crow
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people, both of them, have guts! They did what they had to do to take care of themselves, and each other, to live an authentic life. Bravo.

    Michael Fernandez
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As I occasionally have to remind people, we’re barely a generation past Matthew Shepard being chained to a truck and dragged around until a word that BP censors happened. I actually had a coworker of nearly two decades whose sexuality wasn’t revealed until his funeral. A whole contingent of us coworkers sat there, stunned, in a church, as we came to the sudden realization that the guy lived a lie in his professional life because our company was rather conservative (in a risk averse sense, not a political sense). Anyone who helps anyone hide their sexuality in regressive cultural atmospheres gets a pass from me.

    Elizabeth Garrison
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I just say how much I love this? They supported each other and got out of an oppressive situation. They took care of each other until they were ready to be themselves without fear. Hooray for them!

    Sea Squirrel
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If she indeed 'was a good mother after all', she wouldn't be mad. A good mother would be sad about the reasons why two young people had to team up like this. She would try to understand where she herself went wrong. And in the end, she would be proud. Her daughter is an independent young woman, who's not afraid to go against the rules in order to lead a happy life.

    Guess Undheit
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religious cultists ruining lives part # 4925564642391.

    Bob Jones
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religion is the source of so much evil in the world

    Matthew Barabas
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    who gives a s**t about OP's mother? im glad this all worked out, and if shes upset, tough.

    Eric S.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually no, if she's upset it's icing on the cake. F her with something hard and sandpapery.

    Load More Replies...
    Rose the Cook
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is at least one agency in China that matches compatible gay singles for this sort of marriage to avoid parental tantrums due to the prevailing attitude towards gay people.

    Julia French
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My aunt did this in hte 1950s McCarthy mess so her best friend could keep his job

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She hasn't been a good mother to you, she wantes to forcibly keep you in a cult by trafficking you into sex slavery.

    Ginger Winters
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See that's an act of true love. Marrying someone to help them get away from oppression from their family even when you know they'll never care about you more than as friends. OP chose the friend zoned wife to help someone out and that's beautiful. I wish it never had to be but since it was im glad she did

    Roman Hans
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, OP didn't handle this perfectly. However, she's THE VICTIM & did what she needed to escape. She helped save two lives & that's the end that justified any freakin' means. Congrats to both on getting out -- as I did -- & I wish you long & wonderful lives.

    Anna Drever
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “ She has been a good mother to me after all”. No she really hasn’t. The mother’s love was conditional. OP basically had no other choice at the time or she’d have been strong armed into a marriage with a much older man.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, of the coursest! Religious nutcases provoke being lied to by not accepting anything at all, so they had it coming. Also doesn't sound like a good mother, but maybe she was on the more tamed side of that intrusive, overstepping, cruel cult. But, anyway, NTA - whatever gets you out of there without actual murder, is justified by necessity.

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Introducing a teen to old men re: marriage, which, had to be 'gross'?, I'd have done the same as the OP & her friend. Good on both of them, Cults destroy lives.

    Livingwithcfs
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Companionate have been used for a very very long time to get both men and women out of oppressive home lives. They did what they needed to do, telling her mother about the lie was probably her way of getting back for years of being told how to feel and think

    Abner_Mality
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Isn't religion just splendid? Lol

    WonderWoman
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are sons not married off to fat old women?

    dremetrius
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you teach your children to fear you finding out who they really are, you are absolutely not entitled to any feelings when you do finally find out because they're finally far enough away from you to feel safe. Mom's feelings about the wedding and all the 'effort' she put into it are worth nothing. Hypothetical 'poor relatives' or no. They both participated in that wedding because they were both in actual danger of harm if they didn't find a way out.

    Ash
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is called a Lavender marriage. Totally legit. I haven't told my parents yet that I converted from Christianity and paganism and witchcraft. I'm hoping they'll figure it out from hints in my social media posts and just not ask me about it....

    Lindsay Kerch
    Community Member
    7 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone who married a man who came out gay after 11 years of marriage, I think you’re the problem. I get helping your friend and I get you both were unhappy and it was the only way that worked. But as someone who LEGITIMATELY WENT THROUGH THIS, I have issues with your “heartbroken wife” game. I navigated it for real with two kids and it was devastating. You should have just owned up to it, you had nothing to lose.

    Tom De Paul
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In case you don't know, your mother is a hateful b*tch. Go NC with her and get on with your life.

    Kathy L
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IMHO, the couple's parents were the AHs in the first place for being so hardcore conservative religious that their children felt like this was the only solution. What if the man had felt safe being openly gay from the beginning? What if the woman had felt safe leaving that church as soon as she was an adult, without having to marry anybody? If parents are going to be whiny spoiled brats who throw a tantrum whenever kids turn out differently from what they wanted, then they have no right to whine about anything the kids do to escape their clutches.

    Kathy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one has a right to tell someone else what they have to believe, including family. You can't force someone to believe anything. You can make someone pay lip service to your beliefs and to act as though they believe, but's that's all. I presume OP's family never asked WHY they don't believe. I'm sure they don't want to know, as people who can't tolerate different beliefs almost never do as they are too insecure about their own, not that they would ever admit it. They may profess 100% confidence in some religious figure or scripture, but to say "you have to believe like this because I do" is completely ridiculous. It's fine for someone to believe; it's not fine for them to force their beliefs on others. Certain scriptures have been edited and deliberately misinterpreted over the centuries to give more control and authority to the religious institutions involved. There's no lack of historical evidence to that effect.

    Hollie Marie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of those shows that do good work but are still awful to watch about people who go into these religious cult places and smuggle people out in a windowless van at 2am or something.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "She has been a good mother, after all" ???

    ElfVibratorGlitter
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. The woman pretending to be upset when her partner "came out as gay"... Super cringe to me.

    Hey!
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, it could have been just amicable, like many divorces.

    Load More Replies...
    Natasha Clark
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP & "ex husband" are both complete a******s for many reasons. The money for the wedding could've went towards something else, wasted courthouse time filing paperwork (also perjury) & they were in no way, shape or form held against their will to please these church folks. You could've just left & lived your best life but chose to stay in an unnecessary marriage until someone dies for inheritance money? Shame on both of those entitled a******s.

    Mike m
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The whole marriage was a lot of drama to just move away and basically go no contact anyway. I support the OP BUT if i spent money on a fake wedding, i would consider suing.

    René Sauer
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, that was easy to determine: If OP is opposite of the church/religion, it automatically gets an NTA from me. But when the OP tries to use religion to justify whatever they are writing about, it immediately gets a YTA.

    Carl Roberts
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    1 year ago

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    Now do one about a Mulim family with a similar story. Oh, that's right,. You wouldn't dare

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