Male Coworkers Were Asking This Woman Whether They Were ‘Mansplaining’, So She Created A Chart

you know the people who are saying you are wrong are mostly men right?And you know what they are doing?Explaining, way too much.I totally agree that it is gendered based

Indeed, one hallmark seems to include the typical blindness of the 'mansplainer' to what he is doing. The pseudo-objection that he would be explaining things the same way to another man, as opposed to a woman (and that it's therefore really just about being an a$$hole to EVERYBODY instead of engaging in unconscious gender bias), is not borne out by the formal studies. It's an excuse that doesn't match reality, in the vast majority of cases. It is quite a different thing than the give-and-take of a conversation those perceived as equals.

How unfortunate that those replying to your very pointed answer are basing their responses on "personal experiences," versus well-studied and documented cases of inequalities of socioeconomic position, gender, and race.

@Ivana - I think your reasoning is sound, and mansplaining is definately a more common male trait. I also think the term has been somewhat weaponised to either shutdown unwanted debate or for certain feminists to smack all males over the head with, but that another story. What I want to know is how the 'mansplaining is a male thing because males are different' reasoning is able to coexist with with the '50/50 gender diversity in certain high-paying employment fields because women and men are fundamentally the same' reasoning. Both ideas are thrown around by progressive types all the time, but in my view they seem to have a very central conflict.

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Uhmm It's gendered in that it may usually be that the source is a man, yes... but here it ALSO say that the target has to be a woman... That is not really that real... Usually if one is used to be that way, he is not going to make discrimination... He will be overbearing with everyone ^^;;

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"They do studies on this all the time." maybe they should get proper jobs and stop waiting so much time on things which do not really matter a jot. My partner, is a technophobe, and I get c**p if I try to help, so do I just give up on her and let her continually make mistakes, I have observed all my life that if you do try to help or explain anything to a woman, no good deed goes unpunished as they mostly cannot abide not knowing everything, and assume you think they are stupid, which just is not true, women on the whole are mega intelligent, just mostly indifferent fields, I ask my partner for help on loads of occasions, and also have it offered unasked, should I feel offended, NO, don't be so ridiculous.

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Though I understand this anecdotal: my experiences are different. They just do it in different ways: men doing this tend to be more arrogant and assertive, whilst women tend to be smug and haughty. Studies don't account for the different ways in which the different genders explain things in a condescending way. Irregardless of this, even if men were responsible for 99.9% of this behaviour, calling it 'mansplaining' means ignoring the ('few') women who do it. If they left gender out of it, they could target a larger group of offenders, leave innocent men out of it and avoid causing a divide. Calling out anyone who does this behaviour - even while acknowledging it to be predominately men - would be far more beneficial to everyone.

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Question - do not women wish to be treated equally as men? That's what I've always heard about the equal rights and feminist movement. Reason I ask is from what I've seen of supposed examples of "mansplaining" it is nothing more than a man discussing something with a woman in the same way as he would with a man. Granted, there are some a******s out there, but that is life. But by n large it seems to be a man talking with a woman in the same way as he would with a man. Is that not what you want?

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And the token feminist rears her ugly head.

Yes, like the time a male colleague explained feminism to me--oh, and we're philosophers, and I teach feminism.

Thank you, Moose Face. And indeed, one hallmark seems to include the typical blindness of the 'mansplainer' to what he is doing. The pseudo-objection that he would explain things the same way to another man, as opposed to a woman (and that it's really just about being an a$$hole to EVERYBODY instead of engaging in unconscious gender bias), is not borne out by those studies. It's an excuse that doesn't match reality, in the vast majority of cases.

i once had a boss who refused to believe i was capable of doing the job i applied for and was experienced in but instead made me start at a lower paying "girls job". Luckily I was hired by another company, provided i could prove i could do it, with in two months. but the real kicker was when told me my name, Maryjo was actually my first and middle name. Guess my mom got it wrong on my birth cert and added the third name by accident. silly woman./

寒山, Indeed, one hallmark seems to include the typical blindness of the 'mansplainer' to what he is doing. The pseudo-objection that he would be explaining things the same way to another man, as opposed to a woman (and that it's therefore really just about being an a$$hole to EVERYBODY instead of engaging in unconscious gender bias), is not borne out by the formal studies.

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Really? When was the last time you got fired because you refused to f**k your boss? When was the last time an undergrad decided to explain the textbook YOU WROTE to you as if you didn't understand it? When was the last time someone came into your kitchen and explained how to make the cake you've been making (perfectly) since you were seven?

That is because most dictionaries say that the definition of sexism is discrimination against women based of sex. Most definitions say "typically" or "especially" against women. This is because discrimination implies a structural societal oppression of the dominate against the subservient and in pretty much every culture known to man, man is the dominate sex. The dominate group does not experience structural or societal discrimination because it is based on the power structure. Men may experience personal attacks based off of someone's personal bias, but that is different than being oppressed by a structure of society and/or government built on false norms, such as the norm that men know more than women. When a woman mansplains to a man, it is an individual acting against an individual. When men mansplain to women, it is because it is based off of socially accepted norm of male superiority.

Yep most me too. Many women consider all men to be childish and arrogant. Actually all types of generalization based on gender, nationality, religion, race, etc. is stupid. Get to really know who you're talking to and you'll know how to behave, don't categorize.

no. It's not the same thing. Men don't explain things to other men in arrogant, condescending ways (unless he's an a*****e, and that's a whole other issue). Men DO explain things to women that way when they are mansplaining, because they consider themselves to be more knowledgeable. The common stereotype is that women don't have the intelligence and ability to understand complex concepts and need the big, strong, smarter man to show her how. When women do it, the situational structure is usually very different, as women are usually subject to the patriarchy, whether we want to be or not. If you have not witnessed mansplaining, or, if you're a woman, as your screen name obscures that, you have experienced it, you understand the difference.

That's just plain old sexism. I worked at a restaurant where only females were allowed to be servers. Males were in the kitchen. It's not an uncommon arrangement. And servers make more than kitchen workers.

This may not be relevant but it feels relevant to me. I recall, many years ago my first job, working for a plumbing supply place. The difference between male and female fittings were explained and shown to me sometimes with a snicker. Also I was quietly told to never speak about that or show that to any female employee or woman.

MysticalMan; yep, I can imagine. Even the explanation you were given presumed that we ladies weren't all fully apprised and aware of the distinction ourselves, by an early age, right? The best reason you were told never to speak about that is because it was no doubt regularly ill- received, BECAUSE it would be unnecessary "mansplaining" at its most obvious (and probably most obnoxiously delivered) -- but nonetheless any annoyance would be blamed on the female customers' "over-sensitivity."

Right? I grew up, quite literally, in a Radio Shack that my parents owned. I took apart and rebuilt all kinds of electronics from a young age. Yet when I went into a Best Buy to buy a new computer I had a fellow half my age question whether I really needed a gaming computer. He started going off in specs and explaining how they weren’t really needed for FarmVille, etc. This was right after another customer, male, had asked for a similar build and the clerk just write it all down and got it together, no questions asked. Sorry, buddy, but yes I do need those specs to run various high end MMPORPG that I or my wife could kick your a*s on.

OMG, that is SO ANNOYING!!!! I'm glad you left, and I sure hope you told them why!!!