Guy Shares His Reasoning Behind Refusing To Give A Pregnant Lady His Bus Seat, People Are Not Convinced
There are some things that most of us do without thinking because they seem like common sense. If you see someone struggling to carry their groceries or having a hard time crossing a busy street, you help them out. Someone falls down? You give them a helping hand and get them back on their feet.
So it only seems natural that when you see a pregnant woman on public transportation that you get up and offer her your seat. It’s the polite thing to do after all. Especially if she asks. Unfortunately, it seems like proper manners weren’t drilled into everyone.
One man took to the r/AITA subreddit to find out whether or not he was a jerk for refusing to give his seat to a “heavily pregnant lady” because he was exhausted from work. He didn’t get up even when she directly asked to have his seat. Check out the full story below.
A redditor shocked the internet with their story about why they refused to give up their bus seat to a pregnant woman
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The Reddit community was almost unanimous: this guy was a huge jerk and he was clearly in the wrong. I mean, there’s no real way around it, the guy was so wrong, it actually hurt our inner moral compasses a bit. And as a guy with three siblings, I’m appalled.
But as much fun as it is to judge someone, don’t forget that being exhausted day-in and day-out shifts our judgment. What seems immoral to someone who’s well-rested might seem like no big deal for someone else who’s so tired, they can’t think straight. It’s not an excuse to act like a big [whoops, can’t use those words here] to other members of your local community, however.
Being tired is no excuse to let your morals go
“I was tired and had a long day, and I don’t know why we need to keep perpetuating the idea that breeding somehow means your entitled to people’s seats. I’m tired, too, we’re all tired in this pandemic,” the redditor wrote in their story, showing his contempt for people who choose to have families.
What’s more, the redditor suggested that everyone’s exhausted during the pandemic and everyone deserves a break. True, but that’s what separates good people from the rest: the former go the extra mile to help others in need, the latter are content to be bystanders.
You might not get a gold medal, a standing ovation from the public, or a superhero’s cape for lending someone a hand, but you’ll be an actual everyday hero.
The situation was perfect for the redditor to help a person in need, as well as learn a lesson about how they can do the right thing even after a 10-hour shift at work on their feet. But they wasted the opportunity to prove that they’re better than they thought they were. Nobody’s forced to give up their seat for a pregnant woman, but it’s a sign that something’s probably off with your values if you choose not to.
So instead of leaving a good impression for everyone on the bus, the redditor drew their ire. What’s more, they got a good talking-to from their family members once they got back home.
Giving up your seat isn’t just about being ‘nice’
There are plenty of reasons to give up your seat to a pregnant woman besides being an upright member of society who thinks about more than just themselves, however. The Alpha Parent writes that pregnant women can experience back pain, especially as they’re getting closer to delivery. The pain can reach the legs, so having a place to sit down is a godsend.
What’s more, standing still for longer periods of time (like during a ride on public transportation) can be dangerous. “When standing, a pregnant woman’s heart rate increases, cardiac output decreases, and blood pressure falls. When the woman then takes a sitting position, her heart rate, cardiac output, and blood pressure returned to normal.”
Furthermore, nausea, fatigue, weak joints, and the need to urinate frequently (an urge that increases while standing because gravity pulls the baby into the mother’s bladder) are all reasons why grabbing a seat on the bus is vital. And, in our humble opinions, these reasons trump someone’s physical exhaustion from 10-hour shifts.
It’s rare to see the internet so united. Like you could’ve expected, people were roiling with anger
What do you think of the situation, dear Pandas? Do you think that the redditor was definitely in the wrong like most internet users did or would you give him a pass because he was tired from work? When’s the last time you gave up your seat to someone in need or helped a complete stranger? Let us know in the comments below.
I think it's unfair to single this guy out as the asshole when any person could have offered their seat. Why does it fall on the guys to be chivalrous in this kind of situation. You can't tell me that there wasn't one single non-pregnant woman that could have offered her seat too? And I understand about how much pain he was in..I've been there too where your feet hurt so bad that they start cramping up on you. Is he an a-hole...for bringing up how the pregnancy is not his fault...yeah. For not giving up his seat...I'm inclined to say he wasn't the only one on that bus.
He was the closest to the door, apparently. He clearly said "but he can deal". He was tired, not disabled or injured or AT RISK OF FALLING.
@Theo...what could have happened had this healthy, tired guy fell on his stomach? It may have hurt, he may have been embarrassed...but what if SHE fell on her stomach? Her life could have been completely upended b/c she could have lost her CHILD. A pregnant woman's center of balance is VERY compromised when heavily pregnant...so YES she was at "risk of falling"...and the consequences of her doing so would have most likely been MUCH more devastating than if he fell. This is such a no-brainer.
Aether II, women are not the same as dogs. We even have different doctors. Imagine that! Perhaps do a little research into the effects of pregnancy on a woman before posting such an ignorant comment. They definitely trump the sore feet of that lad.
@Brandy Grote if you re-read the article you will see he wasn't nearest the door, he was nearest to her when she asked. Also, if you read his replies to comments it says she didn't ask the women on the bus and appeared to zero in on him to ask. This article has made me lose massive faith in Bored Panda because it presents such a one sided view, it doesn't present his replies to the comments which answer some questions. Don't get me wrong though, he's still an a-hole for not giving up his seat. I don't care how tired I am, if there is someone who has more need of a seat than me then I will gladly vacate it for them.
If he stood up then he would be at risk of falling, especially if he's feet were extremely painful. It would have been nice if he--or another rider--had offered his seat, but it's not a sin to look out for yourself sometimes. He was rude, but so was she for making demands and then playing the victim when she didn't get what she asked for.
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@Aether || dogs are pregnant for 2 weeks and have smaller babies.
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Well. It´s the job of the busdriver to drive carefully. Not the fault of the guy, who wouldn´t want to give his seat. And also it makes NO (no!!!) difference at all, if he is the closest to the door or not. You really dont get it.
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I don't think you know how tires you get after standing for so long, and how sore your feet actually get. You see, once you sit down, and you try to stand again, you can't. You just collapse, pregnant women can physically stand up, also, she could've asked LITERALLY ANYONE else. And yes, i think he's right, abortions are free and it's HER choice to be a single mom. If she can't afford a car, it's not a good idea to raise a child because its expensive. And i know not everyone is willing to give their child up, or sees abortion as an option, but still, if you can't you shouldn't.
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Neither was she. Just pregnant.
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She was literally just pregnant. Dogs run around still when they are pregnant. Doesn’t make an excuse for a softie like her to have a seat.
I kinda was iffy until he mentioned "her life choices". His " life choices" (where he lives, his job) got him where he is at that moment in life. (Was the wreck because of a choice he made?) We could go those routes all day. But the point is, right there right then someone should have had compassion and given her a seat. I've been pregnant 4x. Pregnancy is miserable, but worth it. Now I have back problems and stuff but would jump up in a heartbeat to anyone that needs a seat more than me. Pregnant woman, elderly person...anyone. I don't care if I worked on my feet 12 hours (which I did when I was in my 20's). And because of his"life choice" of not getting up, a pregnant woman fell and an elderly man fell. Hope he is proud of himself. (and every other able bodied person that didn't get up.) Edit: he wants to blame breeding? So is it his moms fault for having him?
I agree, all three of my pregnancies I worked in my feet all day and used public transport to get there and back. A low point came when a someone further along in pregnancy came on the bus and I was the person who stood up to offer a seat only at that point did someone else offer their seat
While you are right, he decided to take it to the internet rather than accepting his family‘s opinion on the matter. Not to mention writing things like the woman should have had an abortion of she can’t afford a car. Everyone should have offered her a seat, absolutely, but he went above and beyond to be an asshole.
Re read it, he didn't say she should have an abortion because she couldn't afford a car...
TZTZTZTZTZ,the way some ppl CHOSE to missinterpret words just to make others look bad! Disgusting!
Also a very good point. If this happened, he would definitely be an asshole for even questioning if he did the right thing in this situation.
I think it wasn't polite to not offer her the seat. I'd say YTA for the abortion comment. That set it off the edge I'd say.
I mean, in most public transits, you are supposed to give up your seat for the elderly, the pregnant, and the disabled. But if it’s just where I live, isn’t that just how it works? I mean, they could get severely hurt when they fell. And not offering a seat was a little rude, but he denied her one when she asked. But yeah, why did he have to bring up ‘abortion is free’ and that thing about ‘breeding’.
@Hello I also think she could have asked someone else after he declined because she didn't know his foot was in pain. Some people have hidden disabilities and she probably could have asked someone else. The breeding part though was weird.
I see your point on him not being the only one on the bus. Singling him out like that sounds strange, that's why I believe this story is made up. But then again, I'm only speaking of my experience, I've yet to meet a bussfull of complete dickheads who deny a pregnant woman a seat.
I believe it could be true. End of the day, probably a lot of tired people on the bus just wanting to get home. People can be quite nasty or just removed from a situation in those circumstances. I’ve had many people single me out for my seat so they can sit next to their friend or family despite many single seats being available. Some people are very vocal when there is a particular seat they want. For the woman I’d guess she just went after the first person she saw and his attitude escalated it so rather than going to the next person she continued the fight until the kind gentleman intervened. Don’t underestimate the kindness or rudeness of people.
I have and many of my friends who have been pregnant have been in situations where no one would offer them a seat. In one case the bus driver scolded the whole bus, because not only did no one offer a seat, but the people standing were also pushing my pregnant friend and she could have fallen over.
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You know what he should do instead of rant about abortions and sh*t? Get up and sit somewhere else. Problem solved. And if there was no seat available, at the moment, then I bet next stop it would be.
He didn’t rant, he just mentioned it once she started complaining to him that she was a single mother with no car most likely.
The pregnant woman could have also waited until the next stop to sit down. Or someone else could have switched seats with her.
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and obviously this dude was in the younger catagory... living at home where your sister goes and tells your Mom??? pfffft... he sounds like a spoiled f*****g child. I also work 10 hour shifts- i literally walk between 8-10 miles a day... and I would never be so f*****g ridiculous. Its called morals doosh bag.
Why shouldn't the pregnant woman also follow morals? Why doesn't she have to care about people more tired than her?
Since when did you get the authority to impose your moral beliefs on others?
We’re not singling this person out. They happened to be chewed out by their family and went online to find people to back them or absolve them of the “asshole” label.
He's the one that was asked. Had any other able bodied person been asked and refused for the same atrocious reasons, then they would be the asshole.
Then isn't it the pregnant woman's fault for not asking more people?
Although I semi agree @CarolEmory I will say this, he IS the asshole because he totes on and on about BC and abortions and how it was HER choice to get pregnant blah blah blah, but it was also HIS choice to work that shitty job that he's on his feet all day. HIS choice to buy shitty shoes. Had I been there he would've gotten an earful from me too and the lady would've had a seat. I've been there. Maybe she WAS in a relationship and dude split recently? and I've said it once I'll say it again, abortion is not f*****g birth control. He's a douche.
The best shoes in the world aren't going to make standing all day completely pain free.
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Thank you, you are taking the words out of my mouth
Does it say anywhere they're a guy? It could have been a woman writing the post.
People tend to be more judgmental toward men who don't give up their seats than they are toward women who don't.
He asked. AITA. The answer is yes.
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Yeah, well, he was close and it's his reasoning that makes him an asshole.
Irrelevant information. She asked him for his seat, and he said no. And that makes him a colossal asshole.
She could have asked other people. It's wrong to suggest that you only have to get up for a pregnant woman if you are asked personally.
He snapped back when asked politely because of his spot. We don't know about other problems or conditions others might have had, we just know this guy was being crabby and unwilling to be a decent person which is why he stood out as the biggest asshole. And he judged her for being a single mom, when it might not have been her fault. She may have planned that baby with a partner but they died, or left because they’re also an asshole. Or maybe she’s a lesbian and had a sperm donor, but she was the only fertile partner. There’s always a story behind what people say, so listen, and maybe don’t be a jerk about it next time.
You don't know if he was asked politely or if he snapped back. I agree that he was being a d**k regardless, but your conjecture is also pretty weak.
I'm sorry, I should have proofread for possible words that don't belong in my reasoning. No, he didn't snap, he was polite, although it doesn't make him any less of a jerk. My point was, others may have been in the wrong as well, but since we only know one side of the story it emphasizes his wrong-doing in this scenario.
I’m betting this guy would refuse to get out of the way of an ambulance as well.
Carol, no one is trying to put the responsibility squarely on men's shoulders. The pregnant woman asked him if she could have his seat and he became a total jerk about. He told this woman that abortions are free and talked about how her being pregnant wasn't his problem.
He never said that to the woman. He was just justifying his decision later.
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It is simple, the young now have no honour and are weak individuals.
Really? You're using one person as an example of more than a billion people? That's stupid!
Ok so I am on the fence with this so please just hear me out first. While myself personally I would have given up my seat for a pregnant woman as well as a elderly person and someone who is handicapped. I do understand this Mans thought as well. I work on my feet and have a physical job of lifting heavy car and truck parts and am at work 13hrs a day. I am fried and my feet and back kill. There were others on the bus who could have moved as well. Again, I would have moved regardless but don't pin it all on this Guy.
He could have begin with "please could you ask someone else?" maybe?
OR she could've asked someone else when he declined, but she opted for the drama
He said “no, my feet hurt.” If you can’t get “ask someone else” from that, you’re wayyy too fûcking stupid to be in charge of another human life.
Agree and would have done the same and though I don't appreciate his rant in this situation, I'd have liked to rant a few times about choosing to have children to my coworkers, stop expecting me to change my schedule on a moments notice because of your kids. You do not deserve a better start time the day you start because you have kids, those are for people who spent years earning them, your babysitters illness should not mean that I have to cancel helping my grandparents, and if your kid makes you perpetually 20 minutes late, get up 20 minutes earlier. I'd be happy to accommodate the occasional unexpected child related change someone needed but every day I get a flood of requests to change because I'm the only woman who doesn't yet have children. I know it seems selfish to say no, I go for a bike ride every day after work and don't feel safe doing it after dark because the trails are not well lit and my bike light isn't enough, but that hour keeps me healthy, mentally & physically.
I completely agree. I would have definitely moved but others could have moved too. Yes he was being selfish and yes he was being a jerk, but people are allowed to say no and well, they take the consequences of saying no as well.
Except there shouldn't be consequences for saying no unless he was seating on a priority seat.
Just his needing to justify himself to her and be callus when she cried, gives me the reason to call it 'AITA'. He wasn't alone on the bus nor was the elderly gentleman the only ones to step up and being decent human beings. Just that he minimizes her sitution, when he ,himself could be called on the same things. He lives at home and didn't have savings to tide him over til the insurance comes thru? He brings the shame to himself on so many levels.
It’s during a pandemic idiot. Most people are back at home and he didn’t bring shame to himself at all. She should have made better choices in life.
This is a great debate topic I can use with my students. I'm a teacher in Japan and I teach jr high and high school students English debate. In Japan we have designated seats for the elderly, disabled and pregnant. Those seats are rarely occupied by others unless the train car is relatively empty and such folks aren't needing them. There isn't a culture of men giving up something for women here, but a huge reverence for the elderly. I found myself conflicted after reading this; I wasn't ready to pounce on the tired dude after his shift, though the way he described the pregnant woman was callous and undermined his argument. In any case, this would be an interesting case study to bring to my students. A learning experience is better than trading barbs online.
In the US we have those seats too, and the fact that she was asking this one dude to get up instead of anyone else suggests that he was sitting there.
We only have handicapped seats where I live.
She only asked him because he happened to be closest to her. She could have asked anyone.
Maybe
Nothing suggests that
We have the same seats plus pregnancy only seats in Korea. Younger people are afraid to sit in the elderly section, old people get violent. While I was pregnant, watching people STARING at my large belly while sitting in the pregnancy only seat was very common. I was afraid to ask people over 50yo to give up the seat because it isn't uncommon for them to snap. Plus being publicly drunk is perfectly acceptable. I only asked younger people to move if I felt like I actually needed to sit down. People were WAY more considerate on the bus. The average Korean person is super nice, but the assholes always stand out
See, they have seats for people who need it more, like pregnant people. Every bus should have that because apparently we can't count on others to be decent, compassionate people.
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I am not trying to COMPLETELY defend the guy, but I'm a single adult living with my husband, we dont have kids, and we own a restaurant working 65 hrs a week on our feet. Especially during this pandemic, its really hard. All of our friends AND our few employees have kids therefore need alot of weekends, all holidays, vacation times, sick days, sports practices and games all accommodated by US. The ones who chose to wait on kids and pursue their career now have to make up for ALL OF THAT. It isnt fair at all to HAVE to accommodate the endless favors for people with kids when you dont have them. Its just this expectation that parents have for non parents. "Oh they're not doing anything anyway". ITS NOT FAIR TIMES A THOUSAND. AGAIN he should have gotten up for a pregnant woman but NON PARENTS ARE PEOPLE TOO and I think that could be what he was getting at.
It’s interesting you mention Japan and its culture. It is perhaps a correlation that in a country that focuses more on old people that birth rates are so low and population is in decline. Whereas countries like Israel that have a baby obsessed culture have high birth rates. In the long run, not much will be left of a culture where there are few children...
I think it's unfair to single this guy out as the asshole when any person could have offered their seat. Why does it fall on the guys to be chivalrous in this kind of situation. You can't tell me that there wasn't one single non-pregnant woman that could have offered her seat too? And I understand about how much pain he was in..I've been there too where your feet hurt so bad that they start cramping up on you. Is he an a-hole...for bringing up how the pregnancy is not his fault...yeah. For not giving up his seat...I'm inclined to say he wasn't the only one on that bus.
He was the closest to the door, apparently. He clearly said "but he can deal". He was tired, not disabled or injured or AT RISK OF FALLING.
@Theo...what could have happened had this healthy, tired guy fell on his stomach? It may have hurt, he may have been embarrassed...but what if SHE fell on her stomach? Her life could have been completely upended b/c she could have lost her CHILD. A pregnant woman's center of balance is VERY compromised when heavily pregnant...so YES she was at "risk of falling"...and the consequences of her doing so would have most likely been MUCH more devastating than if he fell. This is such a no-brainer.
Aether II, women are not the same as dogs. We even have different doctors. Imagine that! Perhaps do a little research into the effects of pregnancy on a woman before posting such an ignorant comment. They definitely trump the sore feet of that lad.
@Brandy Grote if you re-read the article you will see he wasn't nearest the door, he was nearest to her when she asked. Also, if you read his replies to comments it says she didn't ask the women on the bus and appeared to zero in on him to ask. This article has made me lose massive faith in Bored Panda because it presents such a one sided view, it doesn't present his replies to the comments which answer some questions. Don't get me wrong though, he's still an a-hole for not giving up his seat. I don't care how tired I am, if there is someone who has more need of a seat than me then I will gladly vacate it for them.
If he stood up then he would be at risk of falling, especially if he's feet were extremely painful. It would have been nice if he--or another rider--had offered his seat, but it's not a sin to look out for yourself sometimes. He was rude, but so was she for making demands and then playing the victim when she didn't get what she asked for.
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@Aether || dogs are pregnant for 2 weeks and have smaller babies.
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Well. It´s the job of the busdriver to drive carefully. Not the fault of the guy, who wouldn´t want to give his seat. And also it makes NO (no!!!) difference at all, if he is the closest to the door or not. You really dont get it.
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I don't think you know how tires you get after standing for so long, and how sore your feet actually get. You see, once you sit down, and you try to stand again, you can't. You just collapse, pregnant women can physically stand up, also, she could've asked LITERALLY ANYONE else. And yes, i think he's right, abortions are free and it's HER choice to be a single mom. If she can't afford a car, it's not a good idea to raise a child because its expensive. And i know not everyone is willing to give their child up, or sees abortion as an option, but still, if you can't you shouldn't.
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Neither was she. Just pregnant.
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She was literally just pregnant. Dogs run around still when they are pregnant. Doesn’t make an excuse for a softie like her to have a seat.
I kinda was iffy until he mentioned "her life choices". His " life choices" (where he lives, his job) got him where he is at that moment in life. (Was the wreck because of a choice he made?) We could go those routes all day. But the point is, right there right then someone should have had compassion and given her a seat. I've been pregnant 4x. Pregnancy is miserable, but worth it. Now I have back problems and stuff but would jump up in a heartbeat to anyone that needs a seat more than me. Pregnant woman, elderly person...anyone. I don't care if I worked on my feet 12 hours (which I did when I was in my 20's). And because of his"life choice" of not getting up, a pregnant woman fell and an elderly man fell. Hope he is proud of himself. (and every other able bodied person that didn't get up.) Edit: he wants to blame breeding? So is it his moms fault for having him?
I agree, all three of my pregnancies I worked in my feet all day and used public transport to get there and back. A low point came when a someone further along in pregnancy came on the bus and I was the person who stood up to offer a seat only at that point did someone else offer their seat
While you are right, he decided to take it to the internet rather than accepting his family‘s opinion on the matter. Not to mention writing things like the woman should have had an abortion of she can’t afford a car. Everyone should have offered her a seat, absolutely, but he went above and beyond to be an asshole.
Re read it, he didn't say she should have an abortion because she couldn't afford a car...
TZTZTZTZTZ,the way some ppl CHOSE to missinterpret words just to make others look bad! Disgusting!
Also a very good point. If this happened, he would definitely be an asshole for even questioning if he did the right thing in this situation.
I think it wasn't polite to not offer her the seat. I'd say YTA for the abortion comment. That set it off the edge I'd say.
I mean, in most public transits, you are supposed to give up your seat for the elderly, the pregnant, and the disabled. But if it’s just where I live, isn’t that just how it works? I mean, they could get severely hurt when they fell. And not offering a seat was a little rude, but he denied her one when she asked. But yeah, why did he have to bring up ‘abortion is free’ and that thing about ‘breeding’.
@Hello I also think she could have asked someone else after he declined because she didn't know his foot was in pain. Some people have hidden disabilities and she probably could have asked someone else. The breeding part though was weird.
I see your point on him not being the only one on the bus. Singling him out like that sounds strange, that's why I believe this story is made up. But then again, I'm only speaking of my experience, I've yet to meet a bussfull of complete dickheads who deny a pregnant woman a seat.
I believe it could be true. End of the day, probably a lot of tired people on the bus just wanting to get home. People can be quite nasty or just removed from a situation in those circumstances. I’ve had many people single me out for my seat so they can sit next to their friend or family despite many single seats being available. Some people are very vocal when there is a particular seat they want. For the woman I’d guess she just went after the first person she saw and his attitude escalated it so rather than going to the next person she continued the fight until the kind gentleman intervened. Don’t underestimate the kindness or rudeness of people.
I have and many of my friends who have been pregnant have been in situations where no one would offer them a seat. In one case the bus driver scolded the whole bus, because not only did no one offer a seat, but the people standing were also pushing my pregnant friend and she could have fallen over.
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You know what he should do instead of rant about abortions and sh*t? Get up and sit somewhere else. Problem solved. And if there was no seat available, at the moment, then I bet next stop it would be.
He didn’t rant, he just mentioned it once she started complaining to him that she was a single mother with no car most likely.
The pregnant woman could have also waited until the next stop to sit down. Or someone else could have switched seats with her.
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and obviously this dude was in the younger catagory... living at home where your sister goes and tells your Mom??? pfffft... he sounds like a spoiled f*****g child. I also work 10 hour shifts- i literally walk between 8-10 miles a day... and I would never be so f*****g ridiculous. Its called morals doosh bag.
Why shouldn't the pregnant woman also follow morals? Why doesn't she have to care about people more tired than her?
Since when did you get the authority to impose your moral beliefs on others?
We’re not singling this person out. They happened to be chewed out by their family and went online to find people to back them or absolve them of the “asshole” label.
He's the one that was asked. Had any other able bodied person been asked and refused for the same atrocious reasons, then they would be the asshole.
Then isn't it the pregnant woman's fault for not asking more people?
Although I semi agree @CarolEmory I will say this, he IS the asshole because he totes on and on about BC and abortions and how it was HER choice to get pregnant blah blah blah, but it was also HIS choice to work that shitty job that he's on his feet all day. HIS choice to buy shitty shoes. Had I been there he would've gotten an earful from me too and the lady would've had a seat. I've been there. Maybe she WAS in a relationship and dude split recently? and I've said it once I'll say it again, abortion is not f*****g birth control. He's a douche.
The best shoes in the world aren't going to make standing all day completely pain free.
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Thank you, you are taking the words out of my mouth
Does it say anywhere they're a guy? It could have been a woman writing the post.
People tend to be more judgmental toward men who don't give up their seats than they are toward women who don't.
He asked. AITA. The answer is yes.
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Yeah, well, he was close and it's his reasoning that makes him an asshole.
Irrelevant information. She asked him for his seat, and he said no. And that makes him a colossal asshole.
She could have asked other people. It's wrong to suggest that you only have to get up for a pregnant woman if you are asked personally.
He snapped back when asked politely because of his spot. We don't know about other problems or conditions others might have had, we just know this guy was being crabby and unwilling to be a decent person which is why he stood out as the biggest asshole. And he judged her for being a single mom, when it might not have been her fault. She may have planned that baby with a partner but they died, or left because they’re also an asshole. Or maybe she’s a lesbian and had a sperm donor, but she was the only fertile partner. There’s always a story behind what people say, so listen, and maybe don’t be a jerk about it next time.
You don't know if he was asked politely or if he snapped back. I agree that he was being a d**k regardless, but your conjecture is also pretty weak.
I'm sorry, I should have proofread for possible words that don't belong in my reasoning. No, he didn't snap, he was polite, although it doesn't make him any less of a jerk. My point was, others may have been in the wrong as well, but since we only know one side of the story it emphasizes his wrong-doing in this scenario.
I’m betting this guy would refuse to get out of the way of an ambulance as well.
Carol, no one is trying to put the responsibility squarely on men's shoulders. The pregnant woman asked him if she could have his seat and he became a total jerk about. He told this woman that abortions are free and talked about how her being pregnant wasn't his problem.
He never said that to the woman. He was just justifying his decision later.
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It is simple, the young now have no honour and are weak individuals.
Really? You're using one person as an example of more than a billion people? That's stupid!
Ok so I am on the fence with this so please just hear me out first. While myself personally I would have given up my seat for a pregnant woman as well as a elderly person and someone who is handicapped. I do understand this Mans thought as well. I work on my feet and have a physical job of lifting heavy car and truck parts and am at work 13hrs a day. I am fried and my feet and back kill. There were others on the bus who could have moved as well. Again, I would have moved regardless but don't pin it all on this Guy.
He could have begin with "please could you ask someone else?" maybe?
OR she could've asked someone else when he declined, but she opted for the drama
He said “no, my feet hurt.” If you can’t get “ask someone else” from that, you’re wayyy too fûcking stupid to be in charge of another human life.
Agree and would have done the same and though I don't appreciate his rant in this situation, I'd have liked to rant a few times about choosing to have children to my coworkers, stop expecting me to change my schedule on a moments notice because of your kids. You do not deserve a better start time the day you start because you have kids, those are for people who spent years earning them, your babysitters illness should not mean that I have to cancel helping my grandparents, and if your kid makes you perpetually 20 minutes late, get up 20 minutes earlier. I'd be happy to accommodate the occasional unexpected child related change someone needed but every day I get a flood of requests to change because I'm the only woman who doesn't yet have children. I know it seems selfish to say no, I go for a bike ride every day after work and don't feel safe doing it after dark because the trails are not well lit and my bike light isn't enough, but that hour keeps me healthy, mentally & physically.
I completely agree. I would have definitely moved but others could have moved too. Yes he was being selfish and yes he was being a jerk, but people are allowed to say no and well, they take the consequences of saying no as well.
Except there shouldn't be consequences for saying no unless he was seating on a priority seat.