Landlord Asks If He’s A Jerk For Making His Tenants Move When They Have A Terminally Ill Child In Hospice
Recently, a 47-year-old man turned to the AITA community for a moral judgment. “I inherited a property from my father 11 years ago. For the past five years I’ve been renting the house to a nice family with a young child (5M),” the Redditor who goes by Unique_Jaguar9688 wrote and added that the family has been “great tenants and there haven’t been any issues.”
A month ago, however, the author was approached by a realtor about selling his property. “He had a buyer who was interested and was ready to offer $60,000 over the market because of the location,” Unique_Jaguar9688 said. He saw it as an “opportunity I couldn’t pass up.”
So the author contacted Michael, the father of the family who’s been renting his house for the past five years, to tell him he won’t be renewing the lease.
It turns out the situation in the family was critical since their 5-year-old child was terminally ill.
The man didn’t renew the lease for the family who has been renting for five years and sold the house, despite the fact that their 5-year-old child is terminally ill
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A non-renewal lease letter states if the landlord or renter does not plan to renew the lease for another term. Most states require renters to notify their landlord on their plan to not renew their lease within a certain timeframe, typically 90 to 120 days before the lease ends, but this varies depending on your state.
As a general rule, landlords and tenants do not have to give a reason for choosing not to renew a lease. But according to the Tenant Resource Centre, this can be exceptionally damaging to long-term tenants where nothing is in writing.
Over the years, the staff members of the Tenant Resource Centre have heard a “fair share of elderly renters, calling to say that they’ve lived in their home for 20 plus years, it’s been years since they had a written lease, and suddenly they get a 28-day non-renewal notice.” They explain that “sometimes it’s because of a change of owner, sometimes it’s because the owner wants to renovate, or give the unit to their kid who just got a divorce.”
The two reasons why a landlord is not allowed to not renew the tenants’ lease are discrimination and retaliation. “A landlord cannot give you a non-renewal, and cannot choose to not renew your lease, for reasons that are discriminatory. Discrimination means giving tenants different treatment because they are different from other tenants in a way that is protected by the government. There are lists of protected classes on our Discrimination page,” the Tenant Resource Centre states.
Meanwhile, “Retaliation means that the landlord opted to not renew your lease because you asserted or attempted to assert your rights as tenants (the exact lists are in Wis. Stat. 704.45, ATCP 134.09(5) and MGO 32.12(4)).” For these reasons, a landlord cannot give the tenant a non-renewal.
People said the author was wrong to sell the house in this situation
"This is the risk people make when they rent" says the guy who inherited a property. Wow.
And assumes everyone had at least two parents and those parents are healthy to be around (not estranged) and physically and financially able to help. *shakes head*
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Legally, perfectly fine. Morally, F*****G INSANE. YTA. This person thinks the kid’s last few months on Earth with his f*****g goddamn parents aren’t worth $60,000 of his own profit. Do whatever you’d like, but there apparently is another twat on Earth who just revealed his true colors that are driven by money.
Pink Aesthetic, judging by your other comment, it’s incomprehensible how you cannot see how awful this is when their 5yr old child only has a couple of months to live. Haven’t you ever tried moving? It’s such hard work to find somewhere in budget, right location etc etc, let alone do that when you’re grieving as you only have limited time with your loved one. It is very difficult to see where you are coming from. This situation is beyond f****d up.
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I think it's ridiculous to assume a person's age means they should have family. I lost both of my parents by the time I was 15 and my in laws are about as helpful as dead people so basically I have no family. How can you assume to know someone's family situation because of their age? They likely don't have anyone to help.
I agree! I'm 52, my husband is 56, and both of our sets of parents are gone. We still have young children. What a horrible person...
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JFC, how could this possibly have been written by an actual human being from planet Earth? He's like a made-for-tv movie villain who think's he's the good guy. "Throwaway account because I have friends on Reddit" = you already know YTA.
Legal aid here.. Unfortunately, landlords such as OP exist in abundance in the US. And the vast majority of the laws (at least in Virginia) are designed to protect the landlord. When democrats were in control here, we were able to get some simple protections for tenants in place, such as a 14-day pay-or-quit notice (which gives tenants a chance to get paid and catch up on arrears, before they're taken to court) rather than the 5-day notice that had been in place forever. One of the first things the republicans did when they took over last year was to revert back to a 5-day pay-or-quit notice. Our police departments and courts depend on the fees charged for evictions, garnishments and warrants in debt, all issues that largely affect folks with low incomes. The poverty industrial complex is real, at least in the US. People who have grown up with income security and never faced financial hardship will never, IMO, understand what a different reality it is to be poor and alone.
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Years ago, my landlord sold the building I was living in at the time. I found out later he refused to sell to anyone who planned on making the tenants move. Luckily, he found a buyer who was thrilled with already having tenants in his new property.
Can't they some how come to a compromise? Talk to the buyer and tenant, and give the tenant a little more time, like a special contract for 3 months or something, maybe the buyer might be able to wait for a little. But I see the place has been sold anyway.
Lot's of ways around this legally. You can do a rent back contract with the buyer, where the buyer agrees to continue renting the property to the tenants for some contractual period. But ultimately, it's up to what the buyer is willing to do. And legally speaking, the buyer would be taking a large risk in this agreement. If the tenant refuses to vacate the property after the lease agreement, the buyer would need to hire an attorney to force an eviction. This exact thing just happened to me (though not to this extreme). I had been renting a place for 7 years. My daughter has special needs, and was finally settled at her school, but the landlord decided to sell midway through the school year. I was able to talk them into continuing the lease through the end of June, but they tacked an additional $500/month to the rent. This was a violation of rental law in my area, as the increase exceeded the max allowed, but my choices were either that, or move halfway through the year.
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Some say a person's humanity was priceless gift. This guy's humanity is worth less than the sum of his organs sold on the black market.
I'm so happy his wife is giving him the cold shoulder. No ethics whatsoever.
How would she ever see him the same way again? I couldn’t.
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He should have made a deal with the buyer. "I'll sell you the house but we need to let the current tenants stay and rent for a period of time as their child is terminally ill". I would bet that the buyers would have a heart and figure it out. They would get their house eventually.
The lease that's in existence when a property is sold is binding to the new owner, at least in Virginia. OP could easily have extended the lease by 6 months to protect the current tenants, has he done so before selling the property. Once the contract was signed, he may not have had the legal right to extend the lease, depending on the wording of the sales contract.
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I'm actually a little surprised (and pleased!) that most people went with YTA. Usually on this subreddit, personal autonomy trumps altruism. I've read some heartbreakers where the majority of people claimed doing the kind thing 'Wasn't the OP's responsibility," and I just couldn't understand the logic.
Villianously greedy on an inherited house. This guy is a real piece of work. Wonder if he is still going to think this was worth the profit when he is in divorce court. I can't imagine ever looking at my partner the same after this.
hahahaha some of the 60k or half of everything? He did say he got 60k over market value means he got the value of the house plus 60k extra so.... guessing over 200k. the tenants were good. paid on time never caused problems and first sign of trouble in their lives they get dumped on by a man who "inherited" their home, so it cost him nothing. real piece of work. hope she divorces him and takes him for half and makes him sell their home as well.
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I am trustee for my parents' trust which included their house. When my brother was diagnosed with terminal cancer, I as trustee let him stay in our parents' home rent free until he passed. That's what my parents would have wanted and would have done for him. That was 7 years ago, and my heart still breaks at his loss. OP you are a Class A jerk for not realizing that legal compromises can be worked out. A visit with a real estate lawyer who specializes in rental properties could have found a satisfactory compromise for all parties. A short-term rental contract with the resident family, say for 6 months or 3-month repeatable, would give them time to get a grip and find new housing. OP could probably still amend the existing contract, providing the buyers are willing to renegotiate that point. YES, YTA.
Wife should divorce husband and take half. He won't make his only rational 60 grand then.
Can a moving company and a short time airbnb really cost 60.000? He should still habe plenty of money left, esp as he inherited it amd dont seem to have a lot of loan.
60k over market value... So the cost of the house, plus 60k so we're talking about 6 digit figures - like 200-500k more like
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Unfortunately, it actually doesn’t. Bad people get away with being bad constantly. Greed wins most of the time. I wish it would, though. Big time.
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Wow. What a jerk! I don't have any children but I have a niece. She had to have a serious operation when she was about 5,6. I cried all the way until she recovered. If anything happened to her, I don't know what I would have done. I could never imagine losing a child. Those parents are completely devasted. And will be broken probably for the rest of their lives. And then on top of that, this guy is willing to kick out this family?!?! What a heartless man! He is beyond horrible!
And during the time when their child is dying!!! Just so damn sicking.
Load More Replies... I live in a rental like this but luckily in my country we have strong laws in favour of the tenant. If you have a 'sitting tenant' you can't make them homeless to sell the house. You CAN sell the house WITH the tenant to another landlord of course..
Unfortunately, in the US the laws are geared to protect the wealthy at the expense of everyone else. Look at who creates our laws and the lack of accountability for politicians in the US. We've got a known con man and blatant lier sitting in Congress whose lies are all over the news and nothing is done. Our politicians do not fear the public. I've got a strong fear that we're living through what will historically be known as the fall of US democracy.
Load More Replies... Yep, he ITA. Being young doesn't mean you have living parents. I lost my dad when I was 18. Many people have lost parents too soon. Siblings may or may not exist, but even if they do they may not be willing or able to help. This is heartless.
"Their situation is not my responsibility". True. I hope what goes around comes around.
I recently assisted a friend who had a parent in hospice. His only parent and no help from siblings or Neighbors or friends. I cannot imagine the undue stress it would have created for him had he needed to also pack up a house and look for another place to live and move. Expecting someone in this situation to do that is just plain wrong. Integrity means doing the right thing even when nobody is watching. A lot of people are watching this and see your lack of integrity
There has got to be a part way solution here. Some commenters mentioned talking to new owners to see if they can wait a few months. The wife's idea might have some validity. If working with the new owners didn't work, at the very least, offer to pay for movers and storage for up to a year. Around here, that's probably between 10 and 20 thousands depending on how much stuff they have. Still ahead. Still sucks for the family, just not as terribly.
That would be reasonable, but it sounded like he didn't want to give a penny to the family
Load More Replies... Oh this gets me. How heartless can someone be. They are losing their child, there is nothing more heart breaking and I mean nothing. Now your telling them to move out of the one place of stability they have? Your attitude is the worse of greed, no empathy, no sympathy, no compassion at all... 'risk of people who rent?' That attitude sucks lemons. Now because of the medical system you have in your country they are paying through the nose for their son to die and then your adding extra financial burden on them. You failed to inform them that you were considering selling the place - that's just plain rude and in a lot of countries illegal. I'm not a fan of the suing system in your country but I hope they do for emotional harm.... your stealing precocious time with their son. Time they will never get back. PS I hope your wife divorces you in this case as you are definitely TA
YTA infinity. Your tenents have a child who is dying and couldn't think to talk to them before making a deal. Common courtesy is apart of etiquette that I guess does not get passed down. Empathy over what is possibly the worst times someone can go through as a parent and you make assumptions on if they have family. You don't know there life's story. I am disgusted by people who put wealth and material objects over human decency and think everything is good. Tomorrow is not a guarantee and money is good for feeding clothing and shelter all basic needs. Needs and want are 2 separate entities. In there shoes how would you want to be treated. It's all about respect and compassion. Should you come into a similar situation for yourself, if you can't show compassion for others why should you be shown compassion by others.
I'll say this: One never knows how their life will be from one moment to the next. If you're that driven by money, then you also know that with the stroke of a pen, or, a key pressed mistakenly, you could lose it all, right? And that's the comfortable way. Never be so blinded by profit that it puts your compassionate light out. Would you have liked it if it was happening to you? You already knew that YTA when you posted this. You really need no confirmation.
Assuming he inherited it mortgage free, it's not 60k profit. It's ALL profit. Market value PLUS $60,000 GRAVY. He could pay for movers and still be way ahead. He just doesn't want to. That's cool, but yeah, his soul is worth 60,000 dollars.
Wow, you're a horrible person. You're going to profit off the house due to rising home prices plus it's 60k over ask and paying the couple hundred bucks for a moving company or even offering a bit of hotel time for a couple hundred to a thousand is digging into your profits? You sound like the type to walk past an elderly person who's fallen and be like "legally I have no obligation to help you" smile happily and whistle as you walk guilt free down the sidewalk.
This country will come crashing down and every scumbag whose daddy gave them an easy life will be out on the streets like us. F*ck this guy. Give him the guillotine
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General rule of thumb, if you think you're being an AH, to the point that you have to anonymously go on reddit and ask if you're being an AH; then yes - you probably are the AH. Always go with your gut .
Tough call, but the fact that he's selling to somebody else means he's trying to weasel his way out of the morality clause ... all he did was go from super a*****e to just a plain a*****e ...
Unless this guy is in dire straits this is totally and utter filthy gross
Every AITA is easy to sum up as: Yes, YTA. The fact that you made a post about it, means that you know YTA, but are just looking for others to back up your terrible decisions.
I can’t believe you are so cold hearted and cruel. The mom and dad are loosing their son, a precious life. What is wrong with you? You are a monster!!
oooo the dastardly laugh of glee just passed through my head.
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Don't know where this guy is, but evictions can take a really long time. And until it is through the courts I'm pretty sure he or the new owners can touch or remove a single thing from that house. If they are unable to vacate the property there's not much he can do until a judge decides. Which will screw up he and the new owners lives for quite a while. I'm pulling for the parents with the sick kid. Hell, they could probably get a free attorney to argue their case pro bono where he will have to hire one.
YTA. At least opt for one of the compromises suggested! To play devil's advocate, it's embarrassing for OP to go back on his word to the realtor and buyer; and even if he gives them another year, maybe they will have another hardship next year like, God forbid, their elderly father passing away. Still! He's kicking them when they're down in a really awful, selfish way.
If he signed the purchase contract he can't go back on his word to the buyer, but he can inform them and try to see if they'll sign a counter with a rent by back or at least pay for movers for this family
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This is so beyond scumbag I can't even begin. You can always make more money but they can't get their son back.
This story truly makes me sick to my stomach. I totally believe in karma and hope the wife gets WAY more then the $60,000 in profit (& I’ll take the karma that comes my way for wishing poorly for this scum).
YTA 100% how is this even a question? Then to say that you don't believe that they have old parents, because they are too young......that's just ludacris.
YTA. If I’m gonna sell my soul, it’ll be for billions or even millions. THOUSANDS BRUH?!?! You’re a cheap h0.
As long as you haven't closed on the property, you can back out. No one can force you to sell. The buyer could come back on you for breach of contract but given the circumstances, i belive most courts would side with you or at least be lenient. You'll never regret doing the right thing.
Sounds like a situation that happen to me ,rented a house from a nice couple of 8yrs,they became like a aunt and uncle figure,,Nice good o Christian people who taught Sunday school and were very active in church, I had just lost a daughter, had covid twice ,the landlord gave to me was in town to do business with the house and showed up unannounced and I got sick, they kept calling the hospital to see what was going on,because they was trying to get the house I was in set up for sale w/realtor, just got out of the hospital, wanted me to let people in the house to show so I agreed,people in and out of thr house everyday ,all day for2 wks till I couldn't take it no more ,now it's still covid going on ,,so they took the sign down and said nothing else ,till jan.5th they told me they wanted me out by feb.28th,it's cold ,I not working and came down with covid again., the landlord Mr and mrs.sweet little Terrance and Jessie Smith of normal Illinois, turned into Dr jekyll and Mr Hyde ,
Your edit/update doesn't change you from being heartless. You just passed it on to be someone else's problem. Your assumptions about their family situation makes you look very bad - you don't walk in their shoes and know nothing. Telling people who rent and have a mound to medical bills to just rent a moving company and an Air BnB is thoughtless and arrogant. I hope your wife keeps the cold shoulder for a while! You know nothing of the Golden Rule.
I hope Karma comes in the way of his wife filing for divorce and taking him to the CLEANERS!!!
$60,000 above market price really isn't that much. The guy technically didn't even have it up for sale. When and where did this actually happen? In Canada where I am houses were selling for double or triple of asking price not market price. A former coworker sold his house last summer, a house he and his paid $250,000 for, got $1.3 million for. Making ai million is an opportunity you can't pass up. He screwed over a family with a sick kid for a pick up truck pretty much.
Greed once again,put yourself in their shoes.... you can sell that house anytime,shame no empathy at all,we are here to help one another ,I will pray for you ..
What a despicable person. "Not my responsibility" to have a conscience.
As a realtor myself, I strongly suggest that once you found out about the terminal child, you could have easily gone back to the Buyer, since the Buyer was just going to renovate it and not move right in, and ask him to give the family time. As much as they needed until that poor baby passed. Tell him you want to add a contingency on behalf of that family. The family could have stayed until they need to, the Buyer would still get the house and you would still get your profit. BUT, the rent money they pay as long as they needed to live there would be put into an escrow account that would go to the Buyer at closing as part of his inconvenience. You didn't try to do anything to help and that's very sad.
It's unbelievable how you can feel that you are right, but the fact that your wife is flat out telling you it's wrong and you still choose to do such a horrendous thing means that you're not just greedy, but stupid as well. Your own wife is asking you to have a heart and you still only care about your self and money. Wow. Definitely TA.
You are not only the AH, but you are a colossal, festering, plague-ridden, p-o-s, fashy d*uchecanoe.
I hate children of all ages, always have. But when I read this my jaw hit the floor. There are no adequate words in the universe to describe how bad the landlord is. Those poor tenants.
YTA infinity. You're cruel and heartless to the max. There aren't enough bad words to call you. I hope you suffer the loss of every worldly thing you possess.
That's a hard situation. $60,000 is a life changing profit for many families. I mean that could be an associates degree for your own child or if your child is young you could turn that into a Masters degree, or you could buy a new rental property to retire off of. I don't think you are a monster for taking care of your own family, but a month or two to live. Can't you extend the lease by 3 months?! I don't think 3 months is going to scare off a buyer willing to pay $60,000 over market value! I think if you work at it you can find a compromise!
You know death and moving are in the top 5 stressors! Way to go you heartless MFer
You inherited the property; you aren’t making 60k profit that will be used to help this family - that was the extra above market value- the entire sale is profit. YTA.
Am i the a*****e? This one should be am i evil or am i a sociopath yes and yes. This one made me cry and so angry and I usually quietly wish bad things to happen to the a******s but I'm going to shout it out loud. I'm sure the higher power universe or whatever will agree. I hope you buy a stupid dangerous toy with that 60 grand and your wife gets a good life insurance payout! Oh and renting isn't a choice for most and it doesn't make you a second rate disposable person.
I hope everything this man loves and holds dear turns into an all consuming dumpster fire...even if he changes his mind
What’s done is done. Now you can try and help them out. A fund raiser and hiring a packing and moving company to put their belongings in storage while they spend their last days with their child. Give them time to bury their son and grieve. Ask your community to help. Talk to the kid’s school. Get everyone you can on board. Don’t be the AH. Be the Hero
Legally you have every right to sell your property and it isn't your job to support other families no matter what they are going through not your business their mess to work through. But morally very low. Offer other options. Over them to buy at the same offer price. Offer to pack up and put in storage. Email contract or there is so many other things that could be done. Good luck choosing money or morals. It's your choice, bleeding heart or ah.
What on earth makes this person even have to ask AITA? It should be painfully obvious to anyone other than a heartless sociopath who sold a family out for 60K. Even more of an AH for forgetting not everyone has a rich daddy who gifts them a house. The age means nothing when it comes to family. I haven't had ANY family since I was 8 and my husband's mom passed away 2 years ago which left him with no one as well. What an out of touch, delusional, cruel human being this poor excuse for a member of society is. Karma has a way of coming back. The universe WILL eventually balance this one out. The house would have sold. The parents may have wanted to move after their son passes anyway as there would be too many memories and the child doesn't have long left.
Actually you do have responsibilities and duties to human kind. We have religious, cultural, environmental, family, and social responsibilities to consider in every day life. Stop and think about what you just asked....you know YTA when you have to ask. This family is in one of the worst experiences of life. And for goodness sake, it's a child in hospice. Do you even know what that means?? I have to think not because I would hope that we aren't treating people this way on purpose. You said yourself they were really good tenants so what's the issue with extending your hand and helping them through this horrible experience. They shouldn't have to worry about moving their stuff or worrying about someone doing it either. Just explain this to the buyer. I bet they'll show more compassion than you have. Please don't burden this family with anything. Do not ask them to walk away from this child while he is dying just to fill your pockets.
Easy solution. You make them the responsibility of the new owner. At least it gets the stench of amorality off of your sorry a*s.
I'm going to pray for you because you definitely need God in your life. And don't try to tell me you already have God in your heart because he NEVER NEVER NEVER would have let you treat anyone this way let alone grieving parents. It may not be your problem but being heartless is. I hope you can find some redemption god bless. Tell you wife I think she's an amazing and loving woman and I'm proud of her for giving you the cold shoulder it's what you deserve
Wow. Just, wow. Not only is it a strain because they are taking this time to be with and say goodbye to (what I presume is) their only child while spending all of their available resources on his treatment while this ahole tells them to get out as quickly as possible so he can get paid, but he's also asking them to have strangers or someone else pack up the only home they have lived in with this child. The place they taught him and loved him and watched him grow for his short, little life. After a loss like this, many people can't even bear the thought of packing up a family member's (especially a child's) belongings and using their room in another manner for years after one has passed on. Super cruel.
Definitely YTA, but trying to put it off on imaginary family is bogus. My s/o and I are both young (31 and 34) and only have their parents,who are also elderly,they had my partner into their forties. And yes there are siblings and cousins and uncles. All of whom love hours away and neither of us have talked to in years and definitely aren't the*help you move* type. So as far as we and everyone else is concerned, it's just us and my s/O's parents. It's simpler to say you have no family than to have to explain they're worse than not actually having any or just mutually indifferent. It's not your place to question the validity of their claim that they have no help. Heartless.
This guy really thinks being young means you can't have lost a lot. I'm 29, my wife is 27. Her mother died recently, her father is a disabled vet. I disowned my father the moment he went to prison (CP creation, harboring a runaway, and meth) and my mother is out of state and with multiple health issues. If we need help moving, we're SOL.
As much as I hate to say it this conversation or story whatever screens entitled Rich ah who's done nothing for money except inherited property and made money from Daddy. Google is no idea what it's like to lose someone who thinks the parents just live until it's convenient for them to die so too young people could possibly not have parents that's crazy he just has like no idea of what goes on the world outside of his little well off man bubble.
As a person that has lost my entire family to death and have been left alone (I do have kids that live their own lives that I see on occasion) but have lost my parents, aunt's, uncles, grandparents, siblings, and even some of my siblings young kids, I lost multiple family members per year over the course of 10 years until there was nobody left, and never finished grieving the first loss before each of the next ones kept coming. The end result, life got very difficult, and to this day everything is a mess I'll never have enough time to fix before my own life is over. Your wife is right, and you should reconsider, or find another way to satisfy your greed. I can also say, it must be nice to have your parents leave you a house to begin with, because most of us are left with nothing more than a pile of bills and final expenses.
Moralit plays a big part of being a land lord especially in todays times where everything is over priced. You should have communicated with your tenant more as well as checked on them. You are the reason prices are sky high and people are homeless. There needs to be more empathy in the world as well as kindness and thoughtfulness of your fellow man. Your wife has a right to give you the cold shoulder for what you have done. REMEMBER WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU!. YOU SOLD THE LIFE OF A CHILD FOR $60,000 PROFIT THAT IS COLD AND HEARTLESS, THERE IS A SPECIAL PLACE FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU!.
Def ta..Your forcing parents to give up time with their dying child so another family can merely send their kid to a better school. You are selling something you didnt even earn, for a mere 6Ok. Enjoy your consciences.
Def ta. These parents are watching their son die, whoke the new family merely need a new school district. Nah. You already know you're going to go bed feeling like an a*s for yeara to come.for selling out a family living through hell.to profite on an inheritance you didnt even earn through.your own work. Good lick enjoying those 60,000 which in todaus world means what...not much.
After the way he's reacted to not even wanting to HELP them with the profit he's making off selling the property, it won't surprise me if we find out he's been divorced by his wife because she now sees what type of sick, disgusting person you are to not even be willing to help them when it's YOUR FAULT their lives are now even more destroyed than it already will be when they lose their baby. You're going to be a lonely, greedy old man because of what you've chosen to do to this family, your wife will probably leave you and once your friends hear about this, they're gonna leave too. Good for you, you get to be all alone.
Some people like to show their stupidity in writing. "They're too young to have 1 elderly parent between them." How do you know? People still popping out children at 45, or people just die young. All my grandparents except 1 died before I was a teenager, they were some one's parents. I don't know where this guy lives but 60k is cheap in today's market. He is not AH for ending the lease but for other reasons
People like this really exist? What a monster. If I was his wife I would divorce him and drag it out until his bills were right around 60k . This one will keep me up tonight
I'm only 29 and I have no family left at all I'm by myself both my parents have passed and none of my other family even talk to me and are living in a whole another state so OP you are just heartless to even think that I never wish bad will on anybody but since you showed your true colors that you forsake your humanity for 60 Grand and you showed your true colors to your wife I hope she leaves you for someone that's more passionate for others and not just money
As a hospice Social worker for ten years now, I'll give some context.. if this child qualifies to be "in" a hospice (i.e. is in a hospice facility as an inpatient), which is implied several times, that means that child's symptoms are considered acute enough to warrant that level of care, which is seen as higher as compared to *routine* hospice care, which is typically provided in the home until or unless the symptoms warrant a move *to* "a hospice". This is the equivalent to the hospice version of an ICU where lifesaving measures are foregone but the end of life need is intensive, so yeah, this guy is TA for sure.
They've been paying rent without issues... OP really can't wait a few more months to sell the place that still generating income? That's some highly refined greed right there
What an a*s, he knows this yet he still asks. Not only are you the a*s, you're an idiot as well
I've never met a landlord who wasn't an a*****e, but this a*****e is the scummiest of scumbags.
Obviously yeah. You just wanna make even more money off inhereted property than you're already extorting from those poor people who have it hard enough. Who you admit have caused no issues and have been great. You absolutely are the AH, and the absolute biggest reason, no matter how nice they ACT you can't treat landlords like actual human people. Because they're not. They're just self important parasites that think they're owed passive income just for being born privileged or being willing enough to step over the same people that helped lift them up to begin with. It's honestly time we abolish landlords and give full property rights to those who actually use the property (and do most of the maintenance and repair anyway in my experience)
I think the only thing you will feel bad about is losing the chance of an extra 60 thousand dollars. This is one of the cruelest most heartless things I've heard in some time. Just having to move that child could cause him stress and that means time he could have spent with his parents. As a mother who has lost a child one extra minute is a lifetime... I think you b the biggest AO of all time. Congratulations
Legally you were within your rights to sell. Morally? You have to even ask? What were you looking for on this forum? Instead of asking us about an issue you already knew the answer to ( yes YTA) why don't you contact the realtor you sold to and see if you can get a 60 or 90 day delay in them taking possession? Do something real instead of asking for sympathy from us.
I feel sick after reading this. What goes around comes around! Trust me ! You are the biggest A***ole on Earth! Shame on you
He's had the house for 11 years: been renting to this family for 5. That poor child has been sick his entire life! $60k over asking, which means he had the property listed who knows for how long!!!🤨🫤 YTA
YTA, what I would have done was explain to the buyer the current tenants situation and ask if they are willing to wait to buy. Personally I see more benefit in keeping the home and renting it out.
This post broke my heart. You inherit a home, I get the monetary over paying and the great profit, but at the cost of a family who now, not only facing losing a child, but a home they have lived in for years??? What kind of monster are you? All for another family for their sons schooling??? Sad that you can be bought. Hope your marriage isn't like that either. I'm a business woman, but I maintain my morals and ethics at every turn. Sad you don't. This is just sad you would turn a family out like this. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You are a capitalist YTA, there is nothing wrong with you taking advantage of the current housing market profits . They have had over 5 years to buy a house and become owners. This is business .. their problems are not yours no matter how unfortunate they are.
YTA. Even though you've done nothing legally wrong, you've created a situation that would be difficult for a tenant under normal circumstances. This was a win-win situation for you for five years--good tenants who've provide you income supplement. You have a right to sell, however, as good renters, they deserved the courtesy of being on alert that you've put your home on the market.
Well it's probably too late to amend the sales contract, so at this point all you could do would be offered to pay their first,last and deposits on a new place, and pay their moving expenses, should be able to do all that for five grand. So you come out with 55k instead of 60,but your wife lets you come back and sleep in the bed. Happy wife, happy life...
I see a lot of ppl getting on ya for this one and tbh my parents got sick when I was young and I often dated guys in similar situations because they could relate better. So YTA for that! But as someone whos been a renter AND landlord I have to say that truthfully $60k over market is life changing money for you and your family. You always owe you and yours more than someone else's, that's the TRUTH. However, your wife has a point. I don't like her idea though because these ppl could pick the most expensive movers and Airbnb out of spite and it's always best to have a clean break when a relationship ends even if it's a rental one. My suggestion just to help yourself sleep better at night and balance things out so to speak would be to cut them a check for somewhere between 5k-10k. This should be enough to help them find a new place and movers if they so choose. For you this amount won't break the bank and it'll get them on their way, AND let the wife know you're still human.
Fr if my only child was never returning home and this M*****fu***r was totally okay with dumping us out on our asses then I'd be burning his precious house down to the ground, because he's obviously Satan and likes it hot. Dipshit obviously never heard of orphans or foster care either apparently, lots of us have no family before we're even adults. I hope he now loses all his profits and goes into debt because he gets so sick that the hospital takes all his money too and his wife leaves him for the surgeon...but look at me projecting.
YTA and morally running on empty. Regardless of your excuses for deplorable behavior your karma will bite you at some point. Remember be it good or be it bad, whatever you do or say it will revisit you threefold, so don't be surprised when it does.
Totally the AH, no different than my husband's uncle who threw us (my husband, disabled mother in law, and myself) onto the street after my FIL died. The house was left to my FIL by his father and mother but surprise surprise, the will "disappeared". The will stayed that one how was to go to my FIL and MIL and the other house was to go to my husband and if we sold it, half the money was to be split between uncle and father in law. I am disabled too, can not work and get no benefits. Mother in law was the same way. The uncle stole everything we had, and we were homeless for over 6months, waiting for all the court stuff to get finalized. Barely got 50k for our portion. (50k out of the 500k uncle pocketed). So, we have a home now, one that is beyond repair but at least it is a roof over our head, MIL died due to COVID and a broken heart. Greed is ugly. And to head off the question "Why didn't you save money to move out?" He made 10 dollars an hour and supported 2 households.
We paid all the taxes, utilities, and for food for Grandpa's house and for my In Laws... The uncle never contributed but still got the lions share thanks to his scummy lawyer.
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Ah.. Humanity restored. I'm so glad the comments knew how to be and in here too... My god. 😳 Last viewing on internet for the day so I can cling on for hope for us... Lol that way I won't be disappointed again, with another news article or something- ignorance is bliss.. Damn.
Hate to say but NTA, if it were me i'd push the sale a few months out. But then they'll say that they are grieving and cant possibly move. Landlords dont have obligations to tenants and he didnt know them personally. Unfortunately. Also if it were me i'd arrange and pay for the moving costs out of the "60,000 he cant pass up"
Yta you are one sick bastard my son just went thru the same thing with his last landlord when told my granddaughter could be dead within a year she said everyone knows someone who lost someone with covid. You are one sick mf.like my son's last landlord my granddaughter will be 12 in April every day our heart is heavy and worry panic. Sick f
I find it interesting how many people are willing to call this guy an AH. It's pretty easy to judge someone else's choices when you aren't in their shoes. Money makes this world go round. It's not his fault the family is going through some hard times. It's pretty crappy of the renter to treat the landlord like c**p. I get it life sucks and we all have choices to make. But who are we to judge anyone? That just makes everyone an AH as far as I am concerned- myself included.
I’m kinda in the fence about this one. The owner didn’t know how serious the kid’s situation was at the time the deal was done so how can he be at fault or an AH? He offered suggestions and it’s not his fault they didn’t work for the family. Maybe he could’ve offered to do to the packing for them himself? He’s looking at a lot of money is his pocket and he can’t be blamed for taking the offer before he knew the full extent of the family’s situation. I wonder how many people calling him an AH would be willing to pass that up if they were in the same boat
Ok. So he didn't know how sick the child was/is. Sounds like he didn't bother to inquire how the child was fairing, either. Just showing kindness, consideration toward his "good-no problems-no issues" tenants wasn't something this man was capable of. His eyes saw $$$ and his heart showed greed. Cold hearted bloke.
Load More Replies... He sold it BEFORE he knew the child was terminal, so he's not the evil super villain people are painting him as. Now that he knows, it's not like he can un-sign the papers. The deal is done, the house is sold. The family staying longer is out of his hands, and I doubt the buyers would appreciate being told they cannot live in the property they just paid a premium to live in, nor would they want to deal with the utter mess it would be waiting for the child to die. Which is not only ghoulish, but a logistical disaster. What if the child lives an extra few months or even a year? What if the family is too devastated to move after the death, or just angry at the universe and decide to make things as difficult as possible and require eviction after they destroy the house? To appease any guilt, (and his wife,) he should give them their full deposit, and maybe a gift of 2 months rent or so to ease the transition . Offering to personally help pack and put things in a uhaul is also an option.
He's a villain because his comment about helping them would eat into his profit. Even if helping them move would cost $10k (which is high), $50k is still a huge profit! That's a year's income for many people! He's so greedy.
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I'll get negged, I'm sure, but am I the only one who questions "son in hospice for another couple months"? Hospice is usually 2 days to 2 weeks. They give pain meds but stop all other medications. They don't even get food.
Maybe hospice care is different in different places but here hospice is for people who are projected to have less than six months to live. My aunt lived in a hospice facility for two months.
Load More Replies... This guy doesn’t owe anyone anything. People are so sensitive these days. Enjoy the $60.000
Nta. Your house, do what you like. It's not nice, but it's not your problem. Hope you feel the guilt, but go ahead and sell.
The point is that the parents don't need the grief of squatting and dealing with bureaucratic B's whilst they are actively truly grieving their dying son. And yes he is throwing them out by doing this. You sound almost as bad as him.
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It's not about responsibility, it's about morality. Sure, legally he's totally in the clear. Morally, I'm not sure how he lived with himself.
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Actually, kind of being a biotch here, by assuming they're lying. "Make sure legit the kid is ill." Just wow.
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How does it feel to be defending the greedy scummy landlord over a dying child? Does that boot taste good?
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"This is the risk people make when they rent" says the guy who inherited a property. Wow.
And assumes everyone had at least two parents and those parents are healthy to be around (not estranged) and physically and financially able to help. *shakes head*
Load More Replies... Legally, perfectly fine. Morally, F*****G INSANE. YTA. This person thinks the kid’s last few months on Earth with his f*****g goddamn parents aren’t worth $60,000 of his own profit. Do whatever you’d like, but there apparently is another twat on Earth who just revealed his true colors that are driven by money.
Pink Aesthetic, judging by your other comment, it’s incomprehensible how you cannot see how awful this is when their 5yr old child only has a couple of months to live. Haven’t you ever tried moving? It’s such hard work to find somewhere in budget, right location etc etc, let alone do that when you’re grieving as you only have limited time with your loved one. It is very difficult to see where you are coming from. This situation is beyond f****d up.
Load More Replies... I think it's ridiculous to assume a person's age means they should have family. I lost both of my parents by the time I was 15 and my in laws are about as helpful as dead people so basically I have no family. How can you assume to know someone's family situation because of their age? They likely don't have anyone to help.
I agree! I'm 52, my husband is 56, and both of our sets of parents are gone. We still have young children. What a horrible person...
Load More Replies... JFC, how could this possibly have been written by an actual human being from planet Earth? He's like a made-for-tv movie villain who think's he's the good guy. "Throwaway account because I have friends on Reddit" = you already know YTA.
Legal aid here.. Unfortunately, landlords such as OP exist in abundance in the US. And the vast majority of the laws (at least in Virginia) are designed to protect the landlord. When democrats were in control here, we were able to get some simple protections for tenants in place, such as a 14-day pay-or-quit notice (which gives tenants a chance to get paid and catch up on arrears, before they're taken to court) rather than the 5-day notice that had been in place forever. One of the first things the republicans did when they took over last year was to revert back to a 5-day pay-or-quit notice. Our police departments and courts depend on the fees charged for evictions, garnishments and warrants in debt, all issues that largely affect folks with low incomes. The poverty industrial complex is real, at least in the US. People who have grown up with income security and never faced financial hardship will never, IMO, understand what a different reality it is to be poor and alone.
Load More Replies... Years ago, my landlord sold the building I was living in at the time. I found out later he refused to sell to anyone who planned on making the tenants move. Luckily, he found a buyer who was thrilled with already having tenants in his new property.
Can't they some how come to a compromise? Talk to the buyer and tenant, and give the tenant a little more time, like a special contract for 3 months or something, maybe the buyer might be able to wait for a little. But I see the place has been sold anyway.
Lot's of ways around this legally. You can do a rent back contract with the buyer, where the buyer agrees to continue renting the property to the tenants for some contractual period. But ultimately, it's up to what the buyer is willing to do. And legally speaking, the buyer would be taking a large risk in this agreement. If the tenant refuses to vacate the property after the lease agreement, the buyer would need to hire an attorney to force an eviction. This exact thing just happened to me (though not to this extreme). I had been renting a place for 7 years. My daughter has special needs, and was finally settled at her school, but the landlord decided to sell midway through the school year. I was able to talk them into continuing the lease through the end of June, but they tacked an additional $500/month to the rent. This was a violation of rental law in my area, as the increase exceeded the max allowed, but my choices were either that, or move halfway through the year.
Load More Replies... Some say a person's humanity was priceless gift. This guy's humanity is worth less than the sum of his organs sold on the black market.
I'm so happy his wife is giving him the cold shoulder. No ethics whatsoever.
How would she ever see him the same way again? I couldn’t.
Load More Replies... He should have made a deal with the buyer. "I'll sell you the house but we need to let the current tenants stay and rent for a period of time as their child is terminally ill". I would bet that the buyers would have a heart and figure it out. They would get their house eventually.
The lease that's in existence when a property is sold is binding to the new owner, at least in Virginia. OP could easily have extended the lease by 6 months to protect the current tenants, has he done so before selling the property. Once the contract was signed, he may not have had the legal right to extend the lease, depending on the wording of the sales contract.
Load More Replies... I'm actually a little surprised (and pleased!) that most people went with YTA. Usually on this subreddit, personal autonomy trumps altruism. I've read some heartbreakers where the majority of people claimed doing the kind thing 'Wasn't the OP's responsibility," and I just couldn't understand the logic.
Villianously greedy on an inherited house. This guy is a real piece of work. Wonder if he is still going to think this was worth the profit when he is in divorce court. I can't imagine ever looking at my partner the same after this.
hahahaha some of the 60k or half of everything? He did say he got 60k over market value means he got the value of the house plus 60k extra so.... guessing over 200k. the tenants were good. paid on time never caused problems and first sign of trouble in their lives they get dumped on by a man who "inherited" their home, so it cost him nothing. real piece of work. hope she divorces him and takes him for half and makes him sell their home as well.
Load More Replies... I am trustee for my parents' trust which included their house. When my brother was diagnosed with terminal cancer, I as trustee let him stay in our parents' home rent free until he passed. That's what my parents would have wanted and would have done for him. That was 7 years ago, and my heart still breaks at his loss. OP you are a Class A jerk for not realizing that legal compromises can be worked out. A visit with a real estate lawyer who specializes in rental properties could have found a satisfactory compromise for all parties. A short-term rental contract with the resident family, say for 6 months or 3-month repeatable, would give them time to get a grip and find new housing. OP could probably still amend the existing contract, providing the buyers are willing to renegotiate that point. YES, YTA.
Wife should divorce husband and take half. He won't make his only rational 60 grand then.
Can a moving company and a short time airbnb really cost 60.000? He should still habe plenty of money left, esp as he inherited it amd dont seem to have a lot of loan.
60k over market value... So the cost of the house, plus 60k so we're talking about 6 digit figures - like 200-500k more like
Load More Replies... Unfortunately, it actually doesn’t. Bad people get away with being bad constantly. Greed wins most of the time. I wish it would, though. Big time.
Load More Replies... Wow. What a jerk! I don't have any children but I have a niece. She had to have a serious operation when she was about 5,6. I cried all the way until she recovered. If anything happened to her, I don't know what I would have done. I could never imagine losing a child. Those parents are completely devasted. And will be broken probably for the rest of their lives. And then on top of that, this guy is willing to kick out this family?!?! What a heartless man! He is beyond horrible!
And during the time when their child is dying!!! Just so damn sicking.
Load More Replies... I live in a rental like this but luckily in my country we have strong laws in favour of the tenant. If you have a 'sitting tenant' you can't make them homeless to sell the house. You CAN sell the house WITH the tenant to another landlord of course..
Unfortunately, in the US the laws are geared to protect the wealthy at the expense of everyone else. Look at who creates our laws and the lack of accountability for politicians in the US. We've got a known con man and blatant lier sitting in Congress whose lies are all over the news and nothing is done. Our politicians do not fear the public. I've got a strong fear that we're living through what will historically be known as the fall of US democracy.
Load More Replies... Yep, he ITA. Being young doesn't mean you have living parents. I lost my dad when I was 18. Many people have lost parents too soon. Siblings may or may not exist, but even if they do they may not be willing or able to help. This is heartless.
"Their situation is not my responsibility". True. I hope what goes around comes around.
I recently assisted a friend who had a parent in hospice. His only parent and no help from siblings or Neighbors or friends. I cannot imagine the undue stress it would have created for him had he needed to also pack up a house and look for another place to live and move. Expecting someone in this situation to do that is just plain wrong. Integrity means doing the right thing even when nobody is watching. A lot of people are watching this and see your lack of integrity
There has got to be a part way solution here. Some commenters mentioned talking to new owners to see if they can wait a few months. The wife's idea might have some validity. If working with the new owners didn't work, at the very least, offer to pay for movers and storage for up to a year. Around here, that's probably between 10 and 20 thousands depending on how much stuff they have. Still ahead. Still sucks for the family, just not as terribly.
That would be reasonable, but it sounded like he didn't want to give a penny to the family
Load More Replies... Oh this gets me. How heartless can someone be. They are losing their child, there is nothing more heart breaking and I mean nothing. Now your telling them to move out of the one place of stability they have? Your attitude is the worse of greed, no empathy, no sympathy, no compassion at all... 'risk of people who rent?' That attitude sucks lemons. Now because of the medical system you have in your country they are paying through the nose for their son to die and then your adding extra financial burden on them. You failed to inform them that you were considering selling the place - that's just plain rude and in a lot of countries illegal. I'm not a fan of the suing system in your country but I hope they do for emotional harm.... your stealing precocious time with their son. Time they will never get back. PS I hope your wife divorces you in this case as you are definitely TA
YTA infinity. Your tenents have a child who is dying and couldn't think to talk to them before making a deal. Common courtesy is apart of etiquette that I guess does not get passed down. Empathy over what is possibly the worst times someone can go through as a parent and you make assumptions on if they have family. You don't know there life's story. I am disgusted by people who put wealth and material objects over human decency and think everything is good. Tomorrow is not a guarantee and money is good for feeding clothing and shelter all basic needs. Needs and want are 2 separate entities. In there shoes how would you want to be treated. It's all about respect and compassion. Should you come into a similar situation for yourself, if you can't show compassion for others why should you be shown compassion by others.
I'll say this: One never knows how their life will be from one moment to the next. If you're that driven by money, then you also know that with the stroke of a pen, or, a key pressed mistakenly, you could lose it all, right? And that's the comfortable way. Never be so blinded by profit that it puts your compassionate light out. Would you have liked it if it was happening to you? You already knew that YTA when you posted this. You really need no confirmation.
Assuming he inherited it mortgage free, it's not 60k profit. It's ALL profit. Market value PLUS $60,000 GRAVY. He could pay for movers and still be way ahead. He just doesn't want to. That's cool, but yeah, his soul is worth 60,000 dollars.
Wow, you're a horrible person. You're going to profit off the house due to rising home prices plus it's 60k over ask and paying the couple hundred bucks for a moving company or even offering a bit of hotel time for a couple hundred to a thousand is digging into your profits? You sound like the type to walk past an elderly person who's fallen and be like "legally I have no obligation to help you" smile happily and whistle as you walk guilt free down the sidewalk.
This country will come crashing down and every scumbag whose daddy gave them an easy life will be out on the streets like us. F*ck this guy. Give him the guillotine
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Tough call, but the fact that he's selling to somebody else means he's trying to weasel his way out of the morality clause ... all he did was go from super a*****e to just a plain a*****e ...
Unless this guy is in dire straits this is totally and utter filthy gross
Every AITA is easy to sum up as: Yes, YTA. The fact that you made a post about it, means that you know YTA, but are just looking for others to back up your terrible decisions.
I can’t believe you are so cold hearted and cruel. The mom and dad are loosing their son, a precious life. What is wrong with you? You are a monster!!
oooo the dastardly laugh of glee just passed through my head.
Load More Replies... Don't know where this guy is, but evictions can take a really long time. And until it is through the courts I'm pretty sure he or the new owners can touch or remove a single thing from that house. If they are unable to vacate the property there's not much he can do until a judge decides. Which will screw up he and the new owners lives for quite a while. I'm pulling for the parents with the sick kid. Hell, they could probably get a free attorney to argue their case pro bono where he will have to hire one.
YTA. At least opt for one of the compromises suggested! To play devil's advocate, it's embarrassing for OP to go back on his word to the realtor and buyer; and even if he gives them another year, maybe they will have another hardship next year like, God forbid, their elderly father passing away. Still! He's kicking them when they're down in a really awful, selfish way.
If he signed the purchase contract he can't go back on his word to the buyer, but he can inform them and try to see if they'll sign a counter with a rent by back or at least pay for movers for this family
Load More Replies... This is so beyond scumbag I can't even begin. You can always make more money but they can't get their son back.
This story truly makes me sick to my stomach. I totally believe in karma and hope the wife gets WAY more then the $60,000 in profit (& I’ll take the karma that comes my way for wishing poorly for this scum).
YTA 100% how is this even a question? Then to say that you don't believe that they have old parents, because they are too young......that's just ludacris.
YTA. If I’m gonna sell my soul, it’ll be for billions or even millions. THOUSANDS BRUH?!?! You’re a cheap h0.
As long as you haven't closed on the property, you can back out. No one can force you to sell. The buyer could come back on you for breach of contract but given the circumstances, i belive most courts would side with you or at least be lenient. You'll never regret doing the right thing.
Sounds like a situation that happen to me ,rented a house from a nice couple of 8yrs,they became like a aunt and uncle figure,,Nice good o Christian people who taught Sunday school and were very active in church, I had just lost a daughter, had covid twice ,the landlord gave to me was in town to do business with the house and showed up unannounced and I got sick, they kept calling the hospital to see what was going on,because they was trying to get the house I was in set up for sale w/realtor, just got out of the hospital, wanted me to let people in the house to show so I agreed,people in and out of thr house everyday ,all day for2 wks till I couldn't take it no more ,now it's still covid going on ,,so they took the sign down and said nothing else ,till jan.5th they told me they wanted me out by feb.28th,it's cold ,I not working and came down with covid again., the landlord Mr and mrs.sweet little Terrance and Jessie Smith of normal Illinois, turned into Dr jekyll and Mr Hyde ,
Your edit/update doesn't change you from being heartless. You just passed it on to be someone else's problem. Your assumptions about their family situation makes you look very bad - you don't walk in their shoes and know nothing. Telling people who rent and have a mound to medical bills to just rent a moving company and an Air BnB is thoughtless and arrogant. I hope your wife keeps the cold shoulder for a while! You know nothing of the Golden Rule.
I hope Karma comes in the way of his wife filing for divorce and taking him to the CLEANERS!!!
$60,000 above market price really isn't that much. The guy technically didn't even have it up for sale. When and where did this actually happen? In Canada where I am houses were selling for double or triple of asking price not market price. A former coworker sold his house last summer, a house he and his paid $250,000 for, got $1.3 million for. Making ai million is an opportunity you can't pass up. He screwed over a family with a sick kid for a pick up truck pretty much.
Greed once again,put yourself in their shoes.... you can sell that house anytime,shame no empathy at all,we are here to help one another ,I will pray for you ..
What a despicable person. "Not my responsibility" to have a conscience.
As a realtor myself, I strongly suggest that once you found out about the terminal child, you could have easily gone back to the Buyer, since the Buyer was just going to renovate it and not move right in, and ask him to give the family time. As much as they needed until that poor baby passed. Tell him you want to add a contingency on behalf of that family. The family could have stayed until they need to, the Buyer would still get the house and you would still get your profit. BUT, the rent money they pay as long as they needed to live there would be put into an escrow account that would go to the Buyer at closing as part of his inconvenience. You didn't try to do anything to help and that's very sad.
It's unbelievable how you can feel that you are right, but the fact that your wife is flat out telling you it's wrong and you still choose to do such a horrendous thing means that you're not just greedy, but stupid as well. Your own wife is asking you to have a heart and you still only care about your self and money. Wow. Definitely TA.
You are not only the AH, but you are a colossal, festering, plague-ridden, p-o-s, fashy d*uchecanoe.
I hate children of all ages, always have. But when I read this my jaw hit the floor. There are no adequate words in the universe to describe how bad the landlord is. Those poor tenants.
YTA infinity. You're cruel and heartless to the max. There aren't enough bad words to call you. I hope you suffer the loss of every worldly thing you possess.
That's a hard situation. $60,000 is a life changing profit for many families. I mean that could be an associates degree for your own child or if your child is young you could turn that into a Masters degree, or you could buy a new rental property to retire off of. I don't think you are a monster for taking care of your own family, but a month or two to live. Can't you extend the lease by 3 months?! I don't think 3 months is going to scare off a buyer willing to pay $60,000 over market value! I think if you work at it you can find a compromise!
You know death and moving are in the top 5 stressors! Way to go you heartless MFer
You inherited the property; you aren’t making 60k profit that will be used to help this family - that was the extra above market value- the entire sale is profit. YTA.
Am i the a*****e? This one should be am i evil or am i a sociopath yes and yes. This one made me cry and so angry and I usually quietly wish bad things to happen to the a******s but I'm going to shout it out loud. I'm sure the higher power universe or whatever will agree. I hope you buy a stupid dangerous toy with that 60 grand and your wife gets a good life insurance payout! Oh and renting isn't a choice for most and it doesn't make you a second rate disposable person.
I hope everything this man loves and holds dear turns into an all consuming dumpster fire...even if he changes his mind
What’s done is done. Now you can try and help them out. A fund raiser and hiring a packing and moving company to put their belongings in storage while they spend their last days with their child. Give them time to bury their son and grieve. Ask your community to help. Talk to the kid’s school. Get everyone you can on board. Don’t be the AH. Be the Hero
Legally you have every right to sell your property and it isn't your job to support other families no matter what they are going through not your business their mess to work through. But morally very low. Offer other options. Over them to buy at the same offer price. Offer to pack up and put in storage. Email contract or there is so many other things that could be done. Good luck choosing money or morals. It's your choice, bleeding heart or ah.
What on earth makes this person even have to ask AITA? It should be painfully obvious to anyone other than a heartless sociopath who sold a family out for 60K. Even more of an AH for forgetting not everyone has a rich daddy who gifts them a house. The age means nothing when it comes to family. I haven't had ANY family since I was 8 and my husband's mom passed away 2 years ago which left him with no one as well. What an out of touch, delusional, cruel human being this poor excuse for a member of society is. Karma has a way of coming back. The universe WILL eventually balance this one out. The house would have sold. The parents may have wanted to move after their son passes anyway as there would be too many memories and the child doesn't have long left.
Actually you do have responsibilities and duties to human kind. We have religious, cultural, environmental, family, and social responsibilities to consider in every day life. Stop and think about what you just asked....you know YTA when you have to ask. This family is in one of the worst experiences of life. And for goodness sake, it's a child in hospice. Do you even know what that means?? I have to think not because I would hope that we aren't treating people this way on purpose. You said yourself they were really good tenants so what's the issue with extending your hand and helping them through this horrible experience. They shouldn't have to worry about moving their stuff or worrying about someone doing it either. Just explain this to the buyer. I bet they'll show more compassion than you have. Please don't burden this family with anything. Do not ask them to walk away from this child while he is dying just to fill your pockets.
Easy solution. You make them the responsibility of the new owner. At least it gets the stench of amorality off of your sorry a*s.
I'm going to pray for you because you definitely need God in your life. And don't try to tell me you already have God in your heart because he NEVER NEVER NEVER would have let you treat anyone this way let alone grieving parents. It may not be your problem but being heartless is. I hope you can find some redemption god bless. Tell you wife I think she's an amazing and loving woman and I'm proud of her for giving you the cold shoulder it's what you deserve
Wow. Just, wow. Not only is it a strain because they are taking this time to be with and say goodbye to (what I presume is) their only child while spending all of their available resources on his treatment while this ahole tells them to get out as quickly as possible so he can get paid, but he's also asking them to have strangers or someone else pack up the only home they have lived in with this child. The place they taught him and loved him and watched him grow for his short, little life. After a loss like this, many people can't even bear the thought of packing up a family member's (especially a child's) belongings and using their room in another manner for years after one has passed on. Super cruel.
Definitely YTA, but trying to put it off on imaginary family is bogus. My s/o and I are both young (31 and 34) and only have their parents,who are also elderly,they had my partner into their forties. And yes there are siblings and cousins and uncles. All of whom love hours away and neither of us have talked to in years and definitely aren't the*help you move* type. So as far as we and everyone else is concerned, it's just us and my s/O's parents. It's simpler to say you have no family than to have to explain they're worse than not actually having any or just mutually indifferent. It's not your place to question the validity of their claim that they have no help. Heartless.
This guy really thinks being young means you can't have lost a lot. I'm 29, my wife is 27. Her mother died recently, her father is a disabled vet. I disowned my father the moment he went to prison (CP creation, harboring a runaway, and meth) and my mother is out of state and with multiple health issues. If we need help moving, we're SOL.
As much as I hate to say it this conversation or story whatever screens entitled Rich ah who's done nothing for money except inherited property and made money from Daddy. Google is no idea what it's like to lose someone who thinks the parents just live until it's convenient for them to die so too young people could possibly not have parents that's crazy he just has like no idea of what goes on the world outside of his little well off man bubble.
As a person that has lost my entire family to death and have been left alone (I do have kids that live their own lives that I see on occasion) but have lost my parents, aunt's, uncles, grandparents, siblings, and even some of my siblings young kids, I lost multiple family members per year over the course of 10 years until there was nobody left, and never finished grieving the first loss before each of the next ones kept coming. The end result, life got very difficult, and to this day everything is a mess I'll never have enough time to fix before my own life is over. Your wife is right, and you should reconsider, or find another way to satisfy your greed. I can also say, it must be nice to have your parents leave you a house to begin with, because most of us are left with nothing more than a pile of bills and final expenses.
Moralit plays a big part of being a land lord especially in todays times where everything is over priced. You should have communicated with your tenant more as well as checked on them. You are the reason prices are sky high and people are homeless. There needs to be more empathy in the world as well as kindness and thoughtfulness of your fellow man. Your wife has a right to give you the cold shoulder for what you have done. REMEMBER WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE TO YOU!. YOU SOLD THE LIFE OF A CHILD FOR $60,000 PROFIT THAT IS COLD AND HEARTLESS, THERE IS A SPECIAL PLACE FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU!.
Def ta..Your forcing parents to give up time with their dying child so another family can merely send their kid to a better school. You are selling something you didnt even earn, for a mere 6Ok. Enjoy your consciences.
Def ta. These parents are watching their son die, whoke the new family merely need a new school district. Nah. You already know you're going to go bed feeling like an a*s for yeara to come.for selling out a family living through hell.to profite on an inheritance you didnt even earn through.your own work. Good lick enjoying those 60,000 which in todaus world means what...not much.
After the way he's reacted to not even wanting to HELP them with the profit he's making off selling the property, it won't surprise me if we find out he's been divorced by his wife because she now sees what type of sick, disgusting person you are to not even be willing to help them when it's YOUR FAULT their lives are now even more destroyed than it already will be when they lose their baby. You're going to be a lonely, greedy old man because of what you've chosen to do to this family, your wife will probably leave you and once your friends hear about this, they're gonna leave too. Good for you, you get to be all alone.
Some people like to show their stupidity in writing. "They're too young to have 1 elderly parent between them." How do you know? People still popping out children at 45, or people just die young. All my grandparents except 1 died before I was a teenager, they were some one's parents. I don't know where this guy lives but 60k is cheap in today's market. He is not AH for ending the lease but for other reasons
People like this really exist? What a monster. If I was his wife I would divorce him and drag it out until his bills were right around 60k . This one will keep me up tonight
I'm only 29 and I have no family left at all I'm by myself both my parents have passed and none of my other family even talk to me and are living in a whole another state so OP you are just heartless to even think that I never wish bad will on anybody but since you showed your true colors that you forsake your humanity for 60 Grand and you showed your true colors to your wife I hope she leaves you for someone that's more passionate for others and not just money
As a hospice Social worker for ten years now, I'll give some context.. if this child qualifies to be "in" a hospice (i.e. is in a hospice facility as an inpatient), which is implied several times, that means that child's symptoms are considered acute enough to warrant that level of care, which is seen as higher as compared to *routine* hospice care, which is typically provided in the home until or unless the symptoms warrant a move *to* "a hospice". This is the equivalent to the hospice version of an ICU where lifesaving measures are foregone but the end of life need is intensive, so yeah, this guy is TA for sure.
They've been paying rent without issues... OP really can't wait a few more months to sell the place that still generating income? That's some highly refined greed right there
What an a*s, he knows this yet he still asks. Not only are you the a*s, you're an idiot as well
I've never met a landlord who wasn't an a*****e, but this a*****e is the scummiest of scumbags.
Obviously yeah. You just wanna make even more money off inhereted property than you're already extorting from those poor people who have it hard enough. Who you admit have caused no issues and have been great. You absolutely are the AH, and the absolute biggest reason, no matter how nice they ACT you can't treat landlords like actual human people. Because they're not. They're just self important parasites that think they're owed passive income just for being born privileged or being willing enough to step over the same people that helped lift them up to begin with. It's honestly time we abolish landlords and give full property rights to those who actually use the property (and do most of the maintenance and repair anyway in my experience)
I think the only thing you will feel bad about is losing the chance of an extra 60 thousand dollars. This is one of the cruelest most heartless things I've heard in some time. Just having to move that child could cause him stress and that means time he could have spent with his parents. As a mother who has lost a child one extra minute is a lifetime... I think you b the biggest AO of all time. Congratulations
Legally you were within your rights to sell. Morally? You have to even ask? What were you looking for on this forum? Instead of asking us about an issue you already knew the answer to ( yes YTA) why don't you contact the realtor you sold to and see if you can get a 60 or 90 day delay in them taking possession? Do something real instead of asking for sympathy from us.
I feel sick after reading this. What goes around comes around! Trust me ! You are the biggest A***ole on Earth! Shame on you
He's had the house for 11 years: been renting to this family for 5. That poor child has been sick his entire life! $60k over asking, which means he had the property listed who knows for how long!!!🤨🫤 YTA
YTA, what I would have done was explain to the buyer the current tenants situation and ask if they are willing to wait to buy. Personally I see more benefit in keeping the home and renting it out.
This post broke my heart. You inherit a home, I get the monetary over paying and the great profit, but at the cost of a family who now, not only facing losing a child, but a home they have lived in for years??? What kind of monster are you? All for another family for their sons schooling??? Sad that you can be bought. Hope your marriage isn't like that either. I'm a business woman, but I maintain my morals and ethics at every turn. Sad you don't. This is just sad you would turn a family out like this. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You are a capitalist YTA, there is nothing wrong with you taking advantage of the current housing market profits . They have had over 5 years to buy a house and become owners. This is business .. their problems are not yours no matter how unfortunate they are.
YTA. Even though you've done nothing legally wrong, you've created a situation that would be difficult for a tenant under normal circumstances. This was a win-win situation for you for five years--good tenants who've provide you income supplement. You have a right to sell, however, as good renters, they deserved the courtesy of being on alert that you've put your home on the market.
Well it's probably too late to amend the sales contract, so at this point all you could do would be offered to pay their first,last and deposits on a new place, and pay their moving expenses, should be able to do all that for five grand. So you come out with 55k instead of 60,but your wife lets you come back and sleep in the bed. Happy wife, happy life...
I see a lot of ppl getting on ya for this one and tbh my parents got sick when I was young and I often dated guys in similar situations because they could relate better. So YTA for that! But as someone whos been a renter AND landlord I have to say that truthfully $60k over market is life changing money for you and your family. You always owe you and yours more than someone else's, that's the TRUTH. However, your wife has a point. I don't like her idea though because these ppl could pick the most expensive movers and Airbnb out of spite and it's always best to have a clean break when a relationship ends even if it's a rental one. My suggestion just to help yourself sleep better at night and balance things out so to speak would be to cut them a check for somewhere between 5k-10k. This should be enough to help them find a new place and movers if they so choose. For you this amount won't break the bank and it'll get them on their way, AND let the wife know you're still human.
Fr if my only child was never returning home and this M*****fu***r was totally okay with dumping us out on our asses then I'd be burning his precious house down to the ground, because he's obviously Satan and likes it hot. Dipshit obviously never heard of orphans or foster care either apparently, lots of us have no family before we're even adults. I hope he now loses all his profits and goes into debt because he gets so sick that the hospital takes all his money too and his wife leaves him for the surgeon...but look at me projecting.
YTA and morally running on empty. Regardless of your excuses for deplorable behavior your karma will bite you at some point. Remember be it good or be it bad, whatever you do or say it will revisit you threefold, so don't be surprised when it does.
Totally the AH, no different than my husband's uncle who threw us (my husband, disabled mother in law, and myself) onto the street after my FIL died. The house was left to my FIL by his father and mother but surprise surprise, the will "disappeared". The will stayed that one how was to go to my FIL and MIL and the other house was to go to my husband and if we sold it, half the money was to be split between uncle and father in law. I am disabled too, can not work and get no benefits. Mother in law was the same way. The uncle stole everything we had, and we were homeless for over 6months, waiting for all the court stuff to get finalized. Barely got 50k for our portion. (50k out of the 500k uncle pocketed). So, we have a home now, one that is beyond repair but at least it is a roof over our head, MIL died due to COVID and a broken heart. Greed is ugly. And to head off the question "Why didn't you save money to move out?" He made 10 dollars an hour and supported 2 households.
We paid all the taxes, utilities, and for food for Grandpa's house and for my In Laws... The uncle never contributed but still got the lions share thanks to his scummy lawyer.
Load More Replies... Ah.. Humanity restored. I'm so glad the comments knew how to be and in here too... My god. 😳 Last viewing on internet for the day so I can cling on for hope for us... Lol that way I won't be disappointed again, with another news article or something- ignorance is bliss.. Damn.
Hate to say but NTA, if it were me i'd push the sale a few months out. But then they'll say that they are grieving and cant possibly move. Landlords dont have obligations to tenants and he didnt know them personally. Unfortunately. Also if it were me i'd arrange and pay for the moving costs out of the "60,000 he cant pass up"
Yta you are one sick bastard my son just went thru the same thing with his last landlord when told my granddaughter could be dead within a year she said everyone knows someone who lost someone with covid. You are one sick mf.like my son's last landlord my granddaughter will be 12 in April every day our heart is heavy and worry panic. Sick f
I find it interesting how many people are willing to call this guy an AH. It's pretty easy to judge someone else's choices when you aren't in their shoes. Money makes this world go round. It's not his fault the family is going through some hard times. It's pretty crappy of the renter to treat the landlord like c**p. I get it life sucks and we all have choices to make. But who are we to judge anyone? That just makes everyone an AH as far as I am concerned- myself included.
I’m kinda in the fence about this one. The owner didn’t know how serious the kid’s situation was at the time the deal was done so how can he be at fault or an AH? He offered suggestions and it’s not his fault they didn’t work for the family. Maybe he could’ve offered to do to the packing for them himself? He’s looking at a lot of money is his pocket and he can’t be blamed for taking the offer before he knew the full extent of the family’s situation. I wonder how many people calling him an AH would be willing to pass that up if they were in the same boat
Ok. So he didn't know how sick the child was/is. Sounds like he didn't bother to inquire how the child was fairing, either. Just showing kindness, consideration toward his "good-no problems-no issues" tenants wasn't something this man was capable of. His eyes saw $$$ and his heart showed greed. Cold hearted bloke.
Load More Replies... He sold it BEFORE he knew the child was terminal, so he's not the evil super villain people are painting him as. Now that he knows, it's not like he can un-sign the papers. The deal is done, the house is sold. The family staying longer is out of his hands, and I doubt the buyers would appreciate being told they cannot live in the property they just paid a premium to live in, nor would they want to deal with the utter mess it would be waiting for the child to die. Which is not only ghoulish, but a logistical disaster. What if the child lives an extra few months or even a year? What if the family is too devastated to move after the death, or just angry at the universe and decide to make things as difficult as possible and require eviction after they destroy the house? To appease any guilt, (and his wife,) he should give them their full deposit, and maybe a gift of 2 months rent or so to ease the transition . Offering to personally help pack and put things in a uhaul is also an option.
He's a villain because his comment about helping them would eat into his profit. Even if helping them move would cost $10k (which is high), $50k is still a huge profit! That's a year's income for many people! He's so greedy.
Load More Replies... I'll get negged, I'm sure, but am I the only one who questions "son in hospice for another couple months"? Hospice is usually 2 days to 2 weeks. They give pain meds but stop all other medications. They don't even get food.
Maybe hospice care is different in different places but here hospice is for people who are projected to have less than six months to live. My aunt lived in a hospice facility for two months.
Load More Replies... This guy doesn’t owe anyone anything. People are so sensitive these days. Enjoy the $60.000
Nta. Your house, do what you like. It's not nice, but it's not your problem. Hope you feel the guilt, but go ahead and sell.
The point is that the parents don't need the grief of squatting and dealing with bureaucratic B's whilst they are actively truly grieving their dying son. And yes he is throwing them out by doing this. You sound almost as bad as him.
Load More Replies... It's not about responsibility, it's about morality. Sure, legally he's totally in the clear. Morally, I'm not sure how he lived with himself.
Load More Replies... Actually, kind of being a biotch here, by assuming they're lying. "Make sure legit the kid is ill." Just wow.
Load More Replies... How does it feel to be defending the greedy scummy landlord over a dying child? Does that boot taste good?
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