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Husband Turns Off His Phone Because His Wife Keeps Calling Him During His Tech-Free Weekend, Misses An Emergency
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Husband Turns Off His Phone Because His Wife Keeps Calling Him During His Tech-Free Weekend, Misses An Emergency

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As an adult, it can be difficult to balance your friendships and relationship with your significant other. On the one hand, you want to spend quality time with the people you trust and who you’ve known for ages. On the other hand, you also want to ensure that you’re spending quality time with your partner. No matter your relationship—whether platonic or romantic—healthy boundaries are essential. The only question is what these boundaries actually look like.

Redditor u/Remarkable-Use-8439 made a big splash on the Front Page of the Internet after sharing a story about how his tech-free weekend went wrong. He asked the AITA online community’s opinion on whether he was wrong to turn off his phone to avoid his wife’s “unnecessary contact attempts,” only to miss an actual emergency later on. Scroll down for the redditor’s story in his own words, and to find out how the internet reacted to the situation. Many Reddit users had very strong opinions about the story.

Bored Panda has reached out to u/Remarkable-Use-8439 via Reddit, and we’ll update the article as soon as we hear back from him.

Trust, honesty, and boundaries form the foundation of healthy and happy relationships

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A man shared how upset his wife got after he turned off his phone during a tech-free weekend with his best friend. He missed a family emergency

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The author of the story later posted a couple of updates

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Image credits: Remarkable-Use-8439

At its core, the story is about trust, communication, and the couple trying to figure out each other’s boundaries, in terms of privacy. The redditor shared how he had a long-running annual tradition to have a tech-free weekend with one of his closest friends. This was something that his wife seemed to be all right with before.

However, this year, everything changed. The author of the post recounts how his significant other suddenly started checking in on him during the trip through texts and, later, calls. According to the OP, this was a 180-degree change in her behavior.

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He ended up muting the message chains and then turned off his phone so that his tech-free weekend would be exactly that: tech-free. When he got back home on Monday, he was in for a nasty surprise. It turns out that during the time that his phone was off, there was an actual emergency in the family.

His wife’s sister had gotten into a car crash. The redditor’s wife felt like her husband had ignored her when she needed him the most. This dramatic situation was what got the redditor to share what happened with the AITA community in the first place. His story got a lot of attention, netting over 16.4k upvotes.

Overall, the vast majority of redditors were sympathetic and supportive of the OP. However, many others wondered what exactly the nature of his relationship with his friends was. Whether it was, in fact, purely platonic. There was an intense discussion about what friendships can look like, and how boundaries can seem blurred when viewed from the outside. Some redditors even changed their minds, as the OP revealed more information about what happened.

There is a vast difference between privacy and secrecy. Transparency and trust form the bedrock of any romantic relationship. However, at the same time, it’s vital that people remember that their partners aren’t just their partners—they’re individuals with hopes, dreams, ambitions, hobbies, friends, and (sometimes) a need to be alone. It’s healthy to have some privacy, and not every single aspect of your life has to be something that’s shared with your partner.

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Essentially, one thing that you should ask yourself is whether the information that you’re withholding would directly impact your partner. If it would, then you should opt for transparency. Try to imagine yourself in their shoes and think about things from their perspective.

However, you have the option of keeping things to yourself if what you’re doing doesn’t impact your partner. Generally speaking, if you’re feeling a sense of shame or guilt, then the odds are that what you’re doing is secretive, not private. Restoring trust, if broken, takes time and consistency. Smaller offenses take less time, larger ones take far longer to get over. In some cases, reaching out to a therapist or a couple’s counselor might help move them forward.

Initially, many people started saying that the man did nothing wrong, until he shared some more information

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The husband revealed some more details in the comments of his post. Some readers later changed their opinions

Reactions to the man’s post were mixed. Some internet users thought that he was definitely in the wrong

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Meanwhile, others believed that pretty much everyone was to blame in this particular case

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zedrapazia avatar
Zedrapazia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why are the people of this subreddit so obsessed with trying to uncover an assumed gay affair here that probably doesn't even exist? I find it pretty weird ... I've also shared a bed with my best friend for a month when we were doing a little travel together, and nobody ever called us lesbians because of that.

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Pumpkin Spice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Intimate doesn't mean sexual! And the OP SAID that the accusations were making him uncomfortable. They're best friends, goddammit. Quit it with the conspiracy theories and focus on the actual problem. If the roles were switched, husband would be TA. So the wife is TA here.

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François Bouzigues
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Well, i am married and a father. If i happen to spend a week end with (a) friend(s); which happens once a year or less, i will not be 100% unreachable, but definetely not answering texts or calls for extended periods, and dedicate my time and attention to the people i am with. And guess what, my wife is absolutely fine with that. And i return her the favor as much as i can.

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JMC5003
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. My late husband went on an annual golf trip with his buddies, plus an overnight fishing trip once a year. Those were the days before cell phones were common and he was often unreachable for a couple of days at a time, but I never questioned him or discouraged him from going - and I never felt threatened by the trips. But I had a tremendous amount of respect for my husband and he for me. IMO, if you don't trust and respect your partner, why did you marry them?! The repeated phone calls show a total lack of trust and respect.

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Anonymous Panda She/Her/Hers
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I need to point out that if they were two women no one would have looked twice at their relationship. This is toxic masculinity at it's finest.

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Akia Bowens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they used the words and phrases he used to describe what happened in their alone time then yes, they would say the same about two women. Ya'll throw everything under the sun out there to try and justify a mans suspicious behavior if it seems hes cheating but let it be a woman and everyone automatically jumps to that conclusion

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whaaaaaaaaaa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the spiciest thread I've ever read from this sub, holy cow

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R Nolan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is all Brokeback Mountain. He's just hedging because he wants support. He's lying to this woman but he's not lying to himself he knows exactly what he's doing. Just the way he acts so annoyed that she's even trying to get a hold of him or that he thinks she's talking too long speaks volumes. There's a selfish aspect to his supposed nicey nice relationship with this dude and it says he's lying

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fffab74
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I doesn't matter if you have an affair with this friend or not (people invent c**p to look smart, they don't). I don't care if you just got married. It's one weekend out of 52. It's a phone-free weekend. First the text, then the call, then more text and calls, then again. Is she TRYING to ruin your weekend? If she had suspicions about anything, she would have talked about it before the weekend and would have tried to not let you go. I'm not sure the problem is with you. It's obvious she MUST be the only thing in your life from now on. Drama-Queen. I can even imagine that if you would have been at home at the time of the "emergency", she would have ignored you and gone to see her sister and relatives, without giving you as much as a thought. Me Me Me!!!

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Aria Whitaker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What do you think would have happened if his wife was mugged, shot and the hospital would have been trying to contact her next of kin? I agree with the commenter who said a number for the hotel lobby should have been left in case of an emergency. He is married and he is her next of kin...the one that has to make medical decisions when she is unable. Phone free weekends are terrific when single with no obligations. That is not the case now. She should have laid off the calls, I can agree with that...but acting like she had no right to be able to reach him is simply immature, imo...he is a whole husband now with responsibilities. .

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Autumn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, this whole thing is weird. She shouldn’t have pestered him like that but they should have talked about what was happening and made a plan if she wanted to stay in contact. And while I don’t think that these two guys had a full blown relationship or anything, it seems like there was something going on at some point. It sounds like they all need to have a nice big honest discussion and figure this all out.

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah they do. Both he and his wife need to stop lying to themselves about what’s going on with this friend.

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Mad McQueen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She should have followed the rules so that when Peter cried wolf you could know it was serious. And besides how long would it have taken to return? And I'm sure every bit of info would have been relayed. She's at the hpt. They taking for X-rays. She's got a room. She looks like poo. Etc. she deff should be brought on a trip like this with you and told no phones. She would prob sneak one. But also might enjoy it. Give her her own phone free week or weekend.

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whaaaaaaaaaa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is good advice. Don't downvote people just like that. This person has a point and a solution. This couple certainly needs to work through these issues, they have to trust and understand each other.

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Sonja Wainwright
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like your priority is your friend. You need to rethink your marriage.

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Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because of ONE weekend out of fifty-two? Or is it because he, god FORBID, has human contact with anyone else then her? What on earth is the demand for a marriage then, to give up all of your previous life and interest so you can spend every waken hour adoring your spouse? Sounds more like a cult then a healthy relationship.

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Brianna Tracy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not going to comment on who is the ah here because I don’t think we have enough info and I think of its more of a “they both need to compromise situation. However, i noticed Based on the OPs replies and original thread, he speaks about his wife w a little bit of disdain. Whether it’s deserved or not…they seem like they need to work on some things for sure.

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Jennifer Checki
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not understand the number of people assuming this is a gay affair. OP makes it clear he’s done this annual trip twice while dating his now-wife, and she had no issue with it. If her behavior were based on her suspicion of an affair, the timing is odd.

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nah girl I didn’t think it was gay thing until he mentioned nothing explicitly sexual had happened between them. He’s hiding something. He won’t have him over to his home with his wife? He will take calls outside while he’s out to dinner with his family? I thought hey everyone needs some time with friends and boundaries but I believe he’s having a unspoken affair or an obvious emotional affair with his platonic friend.

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Erin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can kind of understand why the wife might feel insecure as it is one thing to share and apartment but also why did they have to be sharing a bed while the lived together? They could have had two single beds or even a bunk bed when they lived together? The way he words is weird because he says nothing explicitly sexual happened but what does he mean by that and he also made a comment about their relationship not being entirely platonic either which I find super confusing. Basically he goes on a tech-free weekend every year with someone that not only did he share an apartment with but he also shared a bed with and then wonders why his wife is now worried about it when they're married....

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just find it weird because he’s not being clear and a weekend? Are we sure it’s not a mountain instead of a city here?

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Lori Harper
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to the actual Reddit post on this one. The comments were...wow. You could tell reading down the posts when OP was letting out more and more info about his relationship with his BF. They went from "clingy, annoying wife" to "hidden love affair with BF" to "almost-but-not-quite-there-yet" declarations that OP is trying to say he's gay but not ready to come out. Whether he's gay or not isn't really the point. The fair thing would have been to NOT get married until he has sorted out his love life. He makes his wife sound like an irrational harpy while defending his BF to the death. THAT alone tells me (but apparently not him) where the loyalties are. He should cut the wife loose and work out who he wants to be with. If you're not healthy, your relationships won't be. If he had been honest from the beginning of his post, he would have been deemed TA, but it seems he can't even be honest with himself let alone his wife

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Michał Osiecki
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its a bit fishy l,.the relationship with the friend, especially when the guy is evading the true answers

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Manny v
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is was definitely being misleading about the nature of their friendship, sharing a 6 year domestic relationship that includes eating and sleeping together every night does not sound like the everyday male friendship. Also, What does nothing 'explicitly' sexual mean? Like they kissed on accident? They had a rough cuddle sesh? Seems like OP thinks he's convinced everyone that a very normal bro trip is happening and that no one can actually see it's a gay romance weekend.

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Anitra Brooks
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. Many aren't realizing that for the years they dated she wasn't privy to any "no tech" trips. Once married he informs her of his weekend getaways. I can only imagine the confusion. Newly wed and your husband tells you of a no contact trip that he's been taking for years. Leaves you alone and concerned because he didn't bother to even take trips/ vacations with you his wife. Not to mention how much notice did he give for this trip? The day of? Communication is a two way street.

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August
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Y'all crazy, they're 100% gay. Otherwise, he would have just said they were best friends and roommates. Instead, it's "not exactly platonic but not explicitly sexual". You're either platonic or you're not platonic, there is no in-between. He should never have gotten married. Hopefully she dumps his a*s and he can go back to his " totally-not-a-boyfriend".

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if his relationship with the other man isn't sexually explicit (his words), then was it sexually vague?

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Sonja Wainwright
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are tag. You might think about divorcing your wife and move in with your friend, sounds like he is the priority!

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Natalie H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let’s be honest here…Turning off his phone, but using his friend’s phone for navigation/sightseeing/club-hopping is NOT an “off-the-grid/tech free” trip. It’s a “wife-free” trip. There have been times I enjoyed a trip without my husband, but I would never shut him out by turning off my phone. (What if there was an emergency??) OP needs to think about his priorities. How would he feel if his wife did this to him?

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Bonita Thornton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My opinion is that your wife has a right to be angry. Key word, wife. I think there is more to this than you are saying. I have a feeling you are not bei I honest .

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lets do this
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are the ahole. You obviously don't want a relationship you want a fill in convenient when you are home but when you're away you ignore her? Obviously she needed your assurance or comfort and you ditched her. People talk about boundaries and this or that yet had she felt secure she wouldn't have messaged you so much. Also what a horrid thing for you someone liked you enough to want to reach out while you ignored. Enjoy your single pathetic life. Men .. . (Eyeroll)

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This seems awfully suspicious to me. The red flags are when he said that when people assume they're having it makes him uncomfortable and when he said that "nothing explicitly sexual happened." Well just tell us what happened. I'm 54yo gay man and my best friend is a 45yo straight man. As a matter of fact most of my male friends are straight. We met three years ago and are like brothers. We have never hooked up. Gay men love to ask me if we've hooked up and I just tell them no. It doesn't make me uncomfortable because I have nothing to be uncomfortable about. People never ask him, only gay men ask me. It's annoying, but nothing to be uncomfortable about. I also think it's more than a hook up. I think they might actually have a relationship and the reason the phones are turned off is so they don't want to get caught. I truly believe this man is cheating on his wife with another man. Just my opinion.

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Nannette Mofield
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You sir Are to blame any past sexual relationships should have been cut off when you got married. You are a very selfish individual who wants his cake and eat it too. Be honest with your wife and stop being a inconsiderate brat

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Donna Lane
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When the poster admited they shared a bed....I dont know any young guys thats going to share a bed...the other guy would be sleeping on a couch or in a sleeping bag.It sounds like they had a nice domestic setting for a long time, maybe they never crossed the whole line but they definitely engaged in some type of activity!!! So maybe he hasnt decided which team he really wants to play on. Like others when I 1st started reading its a guys trip and we agree no tech, I thought ok sounds reasonable.I used to travel a lot for work and I didnt want my husband blowing up my phone but we still communicated at least morning & say goodnite.But this wife suspects something, she just doesnt have all her proof yet.Its extremely interesting this guy goes to his friend " house" because his wife wants the house spotless? Ok dude clean the house invite the friend over!! But nah thats not what you guys want, think you want alone time.Otherwise you would be meeting at a bar, sporting event etc.

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Ken Sell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was going to say YTA only because by the time you get married and make an adult commitment to someone, there should be some clues in your behavior that you have put away your childish things. It was clear that your wife was uncomfortable with your arrangement, and I'm sure her behavior didn't come out of nowhere. It was cold and disrespectful the way you turned off your wife's only link to you as if she were a bad podcast. When she couldn't reach you, it confirmed all of her fears, and after a whole lot of evasive, parsed answers to the readers' questions, it confirmed mine as well. I feel very sorry for your wife, because she married a confused child instead of a man.

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CalamityE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sister breaking bones in an accident, not an emergency for her to call about. If it was her, it would be a Dr calling and then yes, he absolutely should be coming home to assist. I have seen people sent home next day after the accident because they were deemed fit to go home or in other words, someone lived with them that could take care of non life threatening injuries.

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Dillon Sizemore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what I've been looking for. If it is not her back, skull, pelvis, a rib in the upper rib cage, or a femur it's not an emergency. She will be fine given time and if you have enough broken bones that are not one of the above to become an emergency they are going to sedate you gor 24 to 48 hours at minimum same as if you broke one of the bones above. So there really is nothing he could do to be of help besides emotional support and even then it is a case of boy cries wolf. If I say no contact. I mean no contact. If you don't trust me enough for that I do not want to be your spouse.

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Cindy Caruso
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA mute phone call or text morning and evening when safely in hotel. Making sure she's ok alone. But no communication with your wife is not acceptable. Wife needs to learn how to not blow up your phone all day she might need to plan something with a friend while your away to make the alone time easier to handle. Counseling would help.

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Ryan-James O'Driscoll
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean, he's slightly suspect around his history with this friend, but my history with my own friend could be seen as such if looked at through that lense. He's most definitely not my lover.

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Gryf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's just mad his weekend off from women was interrupted. Couldn't pull out long enough to answer a call 😂

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ERIKA H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Esh. I am thinking clear boundaries and expectations weren't actually discussed from both parties. I am leaning more on he's TA because of the way he acts "confused" by his wife checking in and asking how he was doing. That's called having a partner who genuinely cares and has interest in you, dude. I also don't like how flipid he is acting towards her sister's accident. In one of the comment he responds with "I guess she needed my emotional support". Um, yeah! Something that is a bare minimum in all healthy relationships.

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CalamityE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if anyone who has delt with Drs in that kind of emergency (broken bones in accident).. they ask if they have anyone living with you to help assist you? If sister doesn't, wife might wanted to step up. However, that would have been a surprise for him. Yes, this was not an emergency but seeking out your partner to discuss if that is probably the best.

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James Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are more states of status than a-hole, not a-hole. This sounds like confused and not able to read the room. It sounds to me like the friend is disguising the "other person" weekend as a "boys' no-tech weekend" in order to get some facsimile of fulfillment of unresolved feelings, and that the OP is deluding himself that he's not doing the same thing. That's not to say that they're having a fully sexual affair, but it might be more than just buddies unwinding from an emotional standpoint. His wife picked up on something. I'd wager that without knowing it, the OP started talking about the weekend differently than previously.

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Ray Arani
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH, turning off the phone was a danger move. Muting was fine. But also, the wife should have either said so if something was bothering her about this trip ahead of time, or respected what was an established boundary she didn't speak out about her discomfort on beforehand. If nothing about the friendship was actually bothering her, something was different this time, and they need to figure out what that was. There could be something unrelated going on, mental health issues, a pregnancy, grief, escalated work or family stress, there's not enough info here, but this sounds sort of like a situation where OP and wife need to talk it out and it doesn't really matter who TA is.

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Ambry Petersen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say that OP needs to grow up. Marraige is a big responsibility. I occasionally go on trips with my Mom, (My husband is rarely able to get off work. He asks for the time off but his jerk of a boss refuses to give it. Throws a fit even if one of the workers was not at work because they were in the hospital for an emergency. So he rarely gets to join us). However While I don't always hear my phone I do text or call at night to let him know we are safe and well. I never turn my phone off. When you marry and start a family, your family comes first, before your friends. There comes a time when you need to leave your teenage years behind. You wanted marriage, you have to live up to it. Yes your wife might seem needy, but she loves you and probably misses you. It's the first trip you've made away from her since you were married, she was probably lonely and yes worried about you being so far away. Once married most people don't like being away from each other for long periods.

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Anitra Brooks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

His wife is for the first time finding out about this "trip". He states that for the 2 years they dated he never informed her of any trips but advise her "I would be busy for the weekend". It's possible from her perspective that as a newly wed that she'd be concerned by his choosing to go mia for a weekend while traveling from home. It's brand new to her. It's one thing to imply that you're either busy working or maybe even house cleaning. Suddenly leaving the state, city, or dwelling without your significant other for an entire weekend and not want communication would be concerning. It's new territory and at the very least should have been discussed prior to marriage.

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Elizabeth Andrews
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My best friend and I met at age 10, we're now 25 and 26, she lived with me in highschool and we shared a bed for a year before. We watched shows together and waited on the other like he said, we've seen each other naked in dressing rooms or changing in our room, we have shared hair brushes etc and it was never sexual it was more of a sister I don't see how people think he's having an affair. My best friend and I have girls days where we go out just us and catch up or have lunch and yes we have gone on weekend road trips without bfs and had to tell them we're on a trip and limiting calls and texts so we can enjoy our time and not be constantly otp and they never got pissed off or assumed we were gay? I can't believe people automatically assume people are gay or cheating just because they're not blood related or married. You can't have friends of any gender without being accused.

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Elizabeth Line
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah but you just said that straight forward. His explainations were purposefully vague and half answers. He made himself suspect by not just speaking plainly. He also was quick to ditch his wife for his friend if he called, would only go to the friend's house and rarely let his wife and best friend see each other so they never became friends. My best friends and my husbands best friends spend loads of time with us. There are people in each group we don't really connect with but we have some form of friendship. I call his best friend my second husband and he gives lots of hugs and stuff to my bestie neither of us hide it even from strangers lol. He is actively evading.

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Jessica N
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can people read? Obviously nta. No prior sexual relationship exists and he clarified this in comments. Just bc you share a bed as roommates doesnt mean anything, i shared a bed with my first female rommate when we were 21 and 36 and she couldnt be more straight if she were a yardstick. If my s.o were obsesded woth social media and constant contact i'd set these boundaries on a trip away as well. If we don't set no phone boundaries, people tend to sit and stare at phones instead of talking while out to eat or anywhere

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John Doe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He hasn't clarified anything, he's being deliberately vague about the details of his fake platonic relationship.

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Be a better human
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is missing the point. Stop focusing on the bed sharing ECT...a comment that crossed a line was when op said his wife gets mad when he takes his friends calls when they are over at his parents privately and leaves her there alone.. that's a red flag. So this private family time they have, he is allowed to take his calls. she is 2nd she will always be you yelled at her and called her drama when it was private time with your buddy and she called u, but you can give 2 shits about private time with your wife...why did you even marry her clearly she is not your other half this guy is. platonic or not IDC but you put him 1st before her. Even how you describe you life with him "your routine" I can tell it was happy and you talked about wife you just s**t on your wife the whole time. And I feel your wife knows it and doesnt know how to deal with it. So she acted out. Probably has self esteem issues not strong enough to say I deserve better than this s**t She needs to leave your a*s cuz you lied to her. She probably wants a partner which you already had with your buddy and yet you married her led her on. also if the comments about being gay made you uncomfortable chance is you need to talk to a therapist about it. It's 2023 no one cares anymore if your gay. You need to think why it bothered you if your not.

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georgina gonzalez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to think that the wife knew of this tradition and the type of relationship he has with his best friend (not implying anything sexual btw) yet marriaged him anyways. It's not cute to change the rules just because you get married. These rules have to be set before hand. I feel she has no right to be angry. She should have focused on her sister and not her husband, I think she used this situation to bring up a point..

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Elec Aire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ridiculous. What were you supposed to do about the emergency? Is she that incapable all the time?

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Videogames and Fieros
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... There are some messed up people with huge hang ups that commented. First, his phone free weekend clearly wasn't phone free, because he was answering her calls at first. She could call him if she NEEDED him. He had also set boundaries with her. And she was fine until she wasn't. That's not OP's fault. She should have made it known ahead of time. And to the nuts that are saying you can't take a vacation from your marriage, you damn well can. I've been with my husband for 15 years and sometimes you just need some space. Then there is the problem with OP and his friend having been an item at some point. So what? Even if they were, which OP says they were not, are people not allowed to do things with their ex? And people need to get a proper understanding of what intimacy is. It means a close friendship. And some people use that word with that meaning. OP is definitely NTA. But many commenters are.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh hunny, you NEED to read his update 🤣🤣 He's divorcing his wife to live his "authentic life". And as a topper? He feels absolutely no empathy for her. He's just happy he's got his Bae now! Oh, and he admitted to having been sleeping with "friend" for the past 10 years. Definitely not an ex.

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A Random Anvil
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, the Wife seems overbearing. A true emergency is "hey, your son just got in a head-on and is not expected to survive. You need to go to the hospital ASAP!" The accident where the person had broken bones was already dealt with, so not an emergency. She does not respect boundaries. That's super problematic.

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I DO agree she needed to chill. BUT maybe something happened or she got other info on this friendship that got her anxiety gears going.

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Loreitta M Tuthill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP, your mistake was not calling your wife each evening and sharing about some of the things you saw and did. She would have felt more included in the weekend and it probably would have decreased the texts. Let her know that during the day you won't be by your phone but will call her each day and Incase of emergency leave a message at the front desk. You aren't a teenager any more and you have another person to be considerate of now. The family dynamics have changed. Why don't you see if she'd like to visit where you and your friend went, make it a romantic weekend for you two.

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tori Ohno
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens when you cry wolf. All of her intrusive calling made him ignore her. But, I really don't think her sister getting into a small car accident is a "family emergency that she Needed him for".

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Elizabeth Line
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So my husband's co-worker got rear ended. No broken bones but she is out of commission. The car completely totaled 100% unsalvageable. Just because she isn't dead doesn't mean it was a 'small' accident.

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Onyx May
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If his wife is so clingy then maybe he should leave her for this guy who actually respects him

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Rahul Pawa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think he's TA for not compromising at all on his "phone free" weekend. Sounds like his wife also failed to state her needs clearly. Instead of offering a compromise when his wife started texting, he ignored her messages and eventually turned off his phone. That's a d**k move. A compromise could have been agreeing to a set time for a phone call or video chat.

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Sadie Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem with reading Reddit post on BP is when information is updated your still making guesses and assumptions in the comments. If you go to Reddit now... OP just recently posted on reddit that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life. So there ya go.

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Alicia White
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if my DH went away for the weekend with someone he hooked up with before, or an old roommate who may or may not, assuming I dont actually know, but may suspect, had a thing for him? Oh heeeelll no.

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Chris Brooks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is wrong with these people? Have shared a bed with my best friend. We slept with our heads on opposite sides, and we both know the other isn't gay. Its better than sleeping on the floor or a couch. You can sleep in a bed too, it's not just for fk'ng!

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need to read all the comments. He basically admits they hooked up before he was married. He said their relationship wasn't "sexually explicit." Like WTF does that mean? I'm gay and I've shared a bed with straight friends and it's just sleeping, but this guy admits the relationship was more than platonic.

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TalenaBr.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK this was a weird one, but since I really haven't seen, I'll point out what screams at me... Prior to marriage you did not explicitly tell her what these trips were. You"simply told her I was busy and not to call"... and when you don't live together or are planning to eventually, then sure. But then you get married and drop this information out of nowhere and expect her to just go with it. You were not forthcoming before and now you're dealing with the headache. Not only is it news to her, but doing it with you friend she's only courteous with. Not gonna make any Assumption on relationships... But you kinda shot yourself in the foot. NAH

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YetAnotherSarah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP just recently posted that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life. Truce, everybody!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have none of those "YTAers" had a friendship like this? Wtf?! This poor guy is just looking for advice and people are dumping on him because he had a mutually fulfilling intimate agapic love shared with another human! I went through the comments and NO WHERE did OP say they had a conjugal relationship, just that it was an intimate friendship. People suck so bad!! NTA, NTA, NTA!!!!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He recently added another update in which he's divorcing his wife to be with this same friend that he's actually been sleeping with on the side for 10 years. 🤷‍♀️

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Stay Off My Lawn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh so he thought he could get married and still act single? If his mom had died while he was out with his buddy he 100% would’ve blamed his wife for not trying hard enough to reach him.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's NOT what is happening at all. Wifey didn't have a problem with this until they got married either this year or in 2022. Also, wifey had been texting before the actual emergency happened. So of course he's gonna turn off his phone if she's just crying wolf. If the roles were reversed, everyone would be saying that she should divorce her husband. But since it's the man, you have people telling him he's TAH. This isn't a situation of getting married and acting single. This is two male best friends going on a weekend trip with a phone free rule. Apparently guys can't be friends with guys either without it being seen as gay or a cheating scandal.

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Julianne M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my Zalgo... everyone in the comments suck. The dude isn't gay. They probably are like brothers to each other. The wife is the ahole. The guys did nothing wrong

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Cary
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you get married you make vows. I would divorce a man trying to avoid me. If you have a cell phone you better answer. And she should have been invited on the trip. It's fishy

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Charlene King
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. She had two years to know how your time away goes. Only 2-3 days for goodness sake! Passive-aggression here. I would not be entirely surprised if she was stress-venting to her sister when her accident happened. You should hold your ground. Do not budge. You're right, she forced your decision and brought that important missed call on herself.

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Sparkle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That comment section is wild! I have no idea what's even going on....

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Suzie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As if she couldn't call their hotel and leave a message about the family emergency. Although it's not the kind of emergency that makes you cut your trip short for.

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StarlightPanda!
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it was true. He was just in denial. He admits it in an update (someone linked it below.) While being true to yourself is important, I really hope he realizes just how much this is hurting/going to hurt her. This is going to take a huge, psychological toll on her. I can't even imagine..

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Arenite
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He’s not wrong for turning off his phone but buddy just get a divorce.

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Nathan Wolfe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are three elements of relationship: platonic (friendly), intimate (love and trust), sexual (self explanatory). A platonic relationship would be me with my neighbors. We get along, but we only hang out 1-2 times a year. Intimate would be me and my best friend. We go out of our way to help each other, we make plans to spend time together, we go on guys nights. Sexual would be me and my wife. We have sex. Any relationship can have any one or a mix of those. What OP was saying is that he's intimate with friend, not that he's sexual (though when cohabitating, you may accidentally see parts you wouldn't otherwise, which may be the 'sexual' thing he was thinking of).

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Janet Graham
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not give this marriage any chance of lasting. They have been married for about a year and have some severe issues. She feels insecure about his friendship. He calls her a 'clean house type'. She wants his emotional support for a family crisis, he says he wouldn't have come home anyway. In the early years of my marriage, you couldn't have separated my husband and I for a weekend, no matter what. But, it was never a big deal to have girl's nights or boy's nights that might run into overnights! There is a middle ground on being unplugged; take calls at a set time, leave messages with the front desk, etc. He may not be the AH, but I sure wonder why he is even married.

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K-Dawn Bennett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's the a**......My friend and his friends like to go dirt bike riding or street bike riding. They go for a weekend and travel to different places. I do not blow up his phone with a bunch of dumb calls and messages. In fact, I never bother him when he's with his friends and know he cannot hear his phone anyway. I'm usually the one who insists he go. They have been doing this long before I came into the picture and I don't do anything to ruin it. I'm ok with it, he sends txt or vids of their travels WHEN HE CAN and I don't get upset, whiny or wonder what he's doing every minute of the day. When he gets back, he shows me vids and tells me all about it and I tell him about my weekend. Damn, some women are so insecure, clingy, whiny and just a giant B sometimes. Nothing wrong with him wanting to unwind, relax and go semi off the grid for a few days. Sheesh grow up, get a hobby, go on a girls weekend while he's gone, sleep in, go to lunch or invite friends for a movie-a-thon.

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Skylar Jaxx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

well I guess im a minority in this comment section: He is being to elusive and choosing his words too carefully for nothing sexual to not have happened. He would have said we lived like frat boys for a few years. Im getting they didn't penetrate each other but other things happened. Beside sharing a bed platonically.

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Kelley Baltierra
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no problem if the op is gay or bisexual but if you're married and having an affair with your best friend, even if it's just an annual thing, maybe you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place. I feel bad for the wife: she probably only called you so much because her gut was telling her something is going on...

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Rebecca Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA I just find the wife to be in the wrong here. He told her specifically that it was phone free, and not to contact him unless it's an emergency, and she didn't respect his request. About the whole affair thing, he specified that they were just friends. They're just keeping up an old tradition, which is totally okay.

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Sadie Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP just recently posted on reddit that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life.

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Samantha McHugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - Nothing wrong with tech-free with buddy. Who the Hell cares if y’all shared a bed when y’all were making y’all’s way in this world; saves on costs. A tradition is something to be proud of and treasure and the weekend thing is yours so keep it! Wifey sounds like she got a big up her cooter and decided to feel insecure about y’all’s trip and disrespect the already planned itinerary for that weekend. I felt irritated knowing she kept calling and texting becoz she clearly didn’t give two shits about your space.

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Richard Eaton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP knew his best friend longer, living together in possibly a flat with one bed to save money. There was no sex involved. Look at your significant others and your best friends there are some that you'd die for over your partner. The OP set the boundaries her actions to hold the marriage honors were not honored. She used the not completely full emergency as like a hostage. The OP is not Ata. The fact that the couple don't go on trips was stated, the wife cannot go tech free. She has to have photos of things so she can talk about it later. There is no hidden message or revolation to be found here.

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Sadie Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except... if you go to Reddit and read his most recent reply... OP just recently posted on reddit that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life. Those commenter were right... he just wanted someone to tell him.

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Margaret Nixon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why must we be able to contact one another 24/7-365. Back in the day my father used to go fishing on the weekends with some friends. It wasn't a gay free for all. He and most of the guys were married or were in serious relationships. The women could deal with stuff. I learned the same as I grew up. We didn't have technology to keep us attached at the hip. We just dealt with life. We seem to be too needy and can't stand on our own two feet. My husband died 20 years ago. I'm glad that I learned to be my own woman before he left the building. I loved him dearly, but this seems to border on codependency. IJS

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Pøet Liøn
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why was I reminded of Brokeback Mountain while reading this?

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Flora Porter
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ridiculous. It's perfectly reasonable to have a tech-free trip away. People have got too used to being in contact all the time but having nothing to say. I think the wife was always going to find some kind of 'see what you did?' event to punish him with so she can make sure he's never out of contact again.

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Lori w
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yta. No phone weekend but you bring phones for emergencies that you don't pick up? In the city? And he was answering the phone at first?

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Bobbi McGough Robert
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once upon a time there were not cell phones. How was anybody able to manage?

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Inclusion2020
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is strange that the dude said that his wife wasn’t always so clingy regarding communication and things. While I don’t think there’s any gay affairs going on 😂😂, I do think this is only one side of the story.

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LaserBrain
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP can't blame his wife for "forcing his hand" to turn his phone off. Take some responsibility for your decision, that's a bit pathetic. No one should feel obliged to leave their phone on, or answer it for that matter. Maybe I just feel that way because I lived an age where we didn't have mobile phones, and not being in constant contact didn't cause anxiety. Sister's accident was unfortunate, but having his phone on wouldn't have changed it anyway.

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Smurphette
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is a hypocrite. Wife isn't allowed to call when he's on his special friend time, but when he's at a family dinner, it's okay for him to *leave the room* to talk to the special friend? This is a problem. He is keeping the friend separate from his family, and that looks hella suspicious. Whether it is or not. OP needs to do some self reflecting here.

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Jess AO3 Profile
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you go and read the actual Reddit post, he ends up admitting that he has been sleeping with his friend for about 10 years and only married his wife because his parents issued an ultimatum concerning money. An update he provides details how he is divorcing his wife but refuses to tell her the real reason why, but he's now happily with his "friend" at least! /s

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toxxic
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

His wording about his relationship with his friend is what makes this suspicious. Why is he being so vague? A simple "we are close, but not romantically involved" would have sufficed. The fact that he had to say they've been intimate but "not explicitly sexual" is weird. Like what does that even mean? We know they shared a bed. Not inherently sexual. But did they ever actually hook up in any way? I don't think it's weird to have a phone-free weekend with a friend and he seemed justified in turning off his phone since she couldn't stop calling. But I don't get why he had to keep vaguely saying they were intimate.

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jdtimid123
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. The husband because he could have easily sent a message saying things were going well, and reminding her that his phone would be on silent so he might not get messages quickly, I stead of flat out ignoring here texts right away. He also could have just turned his phone to silent, or turned it back on before bed to make sure everything was okay at home. He was being childish. That said, the wife knew he would be unavailable, and should have let him enjoy the guys trip in piece and only called for emergencies. I couldn't imagine my husband or myself telling the other that we didn't want to talk to them for a while trip, but if that's the arrangement she agreed to, then she needs either to respect that or have a conversation about why him being unavailable bothers her (It is kinda weird to go as far as he did about shutting her down right away).

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Dale Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some everyone here only has friends the exact same age? Also, far too many people believe that once you're married you're one single person which you are not. Nope, still two individuals who need to be individuals as well as a partner in their marriage. Sounds like he having a guys weekend with a homie.

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Baylee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those reddit comments were so weird. They’re literally taking OP’s words and twisting them. There is nothing wrong with guys being close friends and it does no harm in wanting to have vacations together especially if you’ve known each other for years. I think that the wife should’ve been understanding of the fact that her husband just wants to have a tech free weekend with his buddy.

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Joe Vey
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it sad that 2 long time friends can’t get away for a weekend without some idiots throwing around about being gay! Believe it or not I know of some guys that go for 5 to 5 day fishing and/or hunting trips for over35 years and no there married with kid’s & grandchildren so quite being stupid. As far as his wife sounds like she needs to get some friends so she’s not so dependent on him for companionship!!!

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're both AHs. Back when I was a child (late 20s) I thought living together was the same as being married. Then I got married.

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Paul Richards
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No NTA. IF she had respected the boundaries you agreed upon, no phones, and not essentially forced you to enforce the boundaries by turning off the phone, you would have been available for the emergency. But SHE repeatedly broke that trust this is on her Also a car wreck with a broken bone isn't an emergency. Did she want some emotional support, absolutely. Did she reciprocate when it came to you needing a bro weekend. I'd say get a divorce now cuz I don't see this getting any better

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Bonnie Boas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of women call their husbands nonstop when they're away. My husband was with his friends on a guys weekend at some cabin with zero amenities, hunting and whatever else they were doing. I was the only wife that didn't call. He said one of his friends got into a phone confrontation with his girlfriend who called constantly. Also, what would he possibly be able to do with the "sister broke some bones" emergency? Say "I'm sorry to hear that"? That's ridiculous. If I were the wife, if I wanted time with my husband like that, I'd ask for an unplugged vacation as well.

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Calunii
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with the age difference. There are many circumstances that could lead to a 17 y/o being best friends with a 21 y/o. When I was 17 I was classmates with a 31 y/o. Clearly that age gap was too big for there to be any friendship, but 17 and 21 is not that big.

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Sonye Soliz
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My only input from everything on this cuz I've seen and experienced all possible scenarios. No trust, no boundaries. The friend of the husband obviously doesn't trust the wife's presence, and the wife in turn feels the same way about him because honestly both have history with same guy. Now, the friend has to realize his trips with the husband won't be the same, because home responsibilities when you have a significant other is detrimental in a sense as the two may want to start a family but the wife doesn't trust his commitment so she's overthinking how important she truly is. But who knows how deep the husband's friendship is, if the husband feels obligated to his friend because he's alone, that in a way says something. Mental support is important but if it feels more obligatory and not voluntary, then whoever becomes the support will be drained. That's why it seems the husband isn't gonna consider kids which is an indication to the wife of something deeper than it possibly is.

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Some rando dude
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Verdict: NTA. Wifey should have saved the previous phone calls and messages for an actual emergency. I hope her sister gets better quickly and is okay, but like everyone else has been saying, you really shouldn't have cried wolf.

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Bunzilla
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ONE weekend out of an entire year. I could see doing a couple of quick texts a couple times a day; like when you've first made it to the destination safely. Or exchanging a few texts before bedtime. But constantly during the day when they're trying to have fun with a friend? Weird, obsessive and untrusting. Also, if there was really an emergency and she needed to get in contact with her husband, she had the friend's number. Why didn't she try that number if he wasn't responding on his own phone?

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FlatEarf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Originally I said fvck the husband, k!ll the wife and marry the friend, but then I realized this wasn't one of those things. But I say not the bad apple

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tom oneill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, you come back and hear about an accident, well it's like anything you hear on the news, it already happened so you can't do anything about it.

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your wife obviously doesn't respect you or your boundaries. No phones unless it's an emergency. WTF is so hard to understand? I quit speaking to my sister almost 2 years ago after finally realizing what a sh*tty, toxic b*tch she really is. She'd send me the occasional text, which I just ignore (she misses me, blah blah blah. Once upon a time we were best friends. Her alcoholism doesn't help). She recently moved and started sending me pics and asking my decorating opinions. I've never wanted to be as cruel to her as she was to me, but figured I needed her to "get it". I told her, look you're my sister and I love you, but I really don't want to talk to you. Please stop blowing up my phone. That was last Sunday. She texted me again last night "thinking of you". I'm just going to go back to deleting her messages (I don't want to block her because of my niece, who is having some serious mental health issues). And also so I know who's call NOT to take.

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Leelee Cee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First i think its awful how ppl are trying to flip this post. I dont see anything sexual about their relationship. Ive slept in a bed with my female friends more times than i can even count! As a married woman myself I think they were both equally in the wrong. She shouldve respected his wishes n he shouldve put a specific emergency contact plan in place (maybe calling the hotel phone directly or an emergency code) for example my husband my husband cannot be in his phone at work but he does keep it on vibrate in his pocket. We have an agreement that if there is a real emergency i will either call the job directly or text his phone with "call me 911". I dont ever call or txt for anything else so as not to "cry wolf" in the 6 yrs hes been at the job i have used the txt code 2xs. Both times it was bc one of the kids were either sick or injured. I feel maturity level also has a lot to do with it.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go back and check his update. He's been screwing the friend for the past 10 years and is divorcing his wife now.

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YD
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women are possessive and guys occasionally want to break free... Once again, if the genders had been reversed, dude would have truly left his wife alone for the entire weekend and perhaps even salivated at the idea of her having lesbian sex with her long-time friend. Of course, when we go back to the original story, sh*tstorm ensues. Double-standard, what can I say?

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BoredMe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a lot of Redditors in that thread who "know" what's going on based on filling in the sizable gaps with their own biases, mostly fed to them by Hollywood. "If this were a woman, everyone would assume she was cheating" If the OP were a woman with a platonic but close female friend and her husband wouldn't leave her alone despite knowing the rules, these Redditors would be telling her to talk to a divorce attorney as soon as she could.

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Chantal Guyatt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad people on BP seem to be largely reasonable. OP is NTA. Period. Wife is neurotic. Yes, information got revealed as this soap opera went on, however, OP seemed to bed very open and honest. This has been a tradition. If wife is jealous of anything, it is of the OP and BFF's history that well precedes her marriage and relationship with OP. Sister in car accident really sucks (my sister is my best friend so I get that) but ultimately, as the sister was okay, this doesn't constitute an emergency. The wife didn't respect the boundaries of "tech free" to begin so I don't blame OP. Who cares what "intimate" past was with BFF. It was the past. And I'm not implying the past means nothing, but it doesn't have to imply continuity. It also never implied a sexual relationship, as OP later confirms. Personally, if my husband told me he was going away with a close friend or one of his brothers for a weekend and shutting his phone off I'd support him 100%!

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Chantal Guyatt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, this cut me off... I would encourage him, even (nice to get rid of him for a couple days!). But ultimately, I love and trust my partner so if he buzzed off for a few days, I'd miss him but I wouldn't resent him for it! And if something unfortunate happened when he was gone, we'd deal with it when he came home.

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Lunar
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont see how her sister's accident is an emergency. It's not like she dies or you can do anything.

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Henry Shane
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait I can go away and tell my wife not to call? Hang on... Nope, says she will kill me. So yta.

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Kady LaHaie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people can't stand not being able to check in. Especially wives and mothers in law.

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Pursuing Peonies
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She had two YEARS to figure out how to deal with it or come up with a good compromise that works for them. But she decided not to communicate at all and just suddenly push the issue after they were married? I get people are bad at communicating, but this needs to not be deemed acceptable anymore.

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Stacia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You were out of town. There would be nothing you could do anyways so what was the point of her bugging you about it? She's there for her sister, few broken bones but fine. NTA

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CalamityE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Usually Drs will discharge patients that have someone living in the home..so unless sister doesn't have anyone living with her and wife wanted to move her in to help (that would have been a surprise for husband). There was absolutely no reason to call. I highly doubt sister lives by herself, Drs will even discharge with just roommates. They don't even have to take care of you..they just have to be there at home.

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Krosse
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wife didn't get the very obvious hint, called Wolf too many times. Your fault, witch. If you kept it to emergencies like he asked he would've been there.

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Jei Wolf 85
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. The wife knew this trip happened and was bugging him, I'd have muted her too and done the same thing when she continued her BS. But I agree there should have been daily check ins etc. But she f'ed around and found out. But tbh I think the OP did too lol. From the first post on I kept getting Brokeback Mountain vibes! FR he's going on vacation with his bff/ex bf. But if they've all hung out she shouldn't have an issue with it. Although I really doubt they keep it platonic. The OP needs to decide if he's with him or her or invite her to go with them if the OPs bff is ok with it. Also the way he talks about his bff is sketchy especially with the age ranges, kinda sounds all kid "grOoMing" like. And that afterwards the bff just stuck with the OP etc. The whole situation is odd AF but yeah ESH.

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Deborah THE Band
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA... You're just a chicken-s**t idiot. You must tell your wife everything about your relationship with Friend (That's the best ya' could do for this decade-long 'pal?' "Friend?" Fine.) It's not negotiable! However, your wife is an unconditional AH. She had known the rules for at least 2 years. She initially texted with 'Hi I'm bored' B******t." Now, she's upset because she needed you. No. She did not! Not your fault that she can't handle life. Were you 17 or 21? Doesn't F*****g matter! Your wife is an adult... again, I'm guessing... again. Her sister wrecked a car and broke a bone... bones... doesn't matter. No one died. Oooh. That is not life. That is a great piece of luck. Did she need you there to pat her on the back for her great luck?! Nobody died! She is an A*****e. Youre the idiot.

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Lenn
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTF this is bugging me out so much! What on earth makes people think that 'its not platonic but also not sexual' means he is a liar and has an affair?! I shared beds with several friends bc it's not platonic because WE ARE GOOD FRIENDS. There is mothing sexual, we are good friends, we can hug each other and cook together and everything. Not in any circumstances does my SO think I will have an affair when I say I'll go out with my friends. This dude is CLEARLY NTA! His wife is TA, bc she self induced that he turned off the phone. Also, how much of TA the wife is, her sister had an accident, not herself. She should be there for her sister not demanding anyone be there for herself. Also out of context it wasn't even a bad accident. So she knew her sister will be fine, nothing to worry about. Sound like a realpy toxic and controlling wife to me.

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Rogue Agent
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you weren't married before you should tell her "your starting to sound like my ex-wife." When she says "You never told me you were married before." Say: "I wasn't."

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Jess AO3 Profile
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, you're prophetic! She soon will be! Meanwhile, he's moving on/in with the "friend". (Check the update in Reddit).

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Saga Sundelin
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The amount of accusations that he must be cheating on his wife because he and his friend are...FRIENDS makes me as a queer person super uncomfortable.

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If you were my husband, you wouldn’t be anymore. You are married, that is a priority relationship, not your old boyfriend. I’m surprised you are still married. YATA!

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know right?! I think she started thinking wait a minute this is getting weird. I honestly feel sorry for her because he’s most likely bi no man puts his friend over his wife or doesn’t have him over to the home he shares with his wife. My brother has close friends from high school two of them. Believe me the one friend drove my sil crazy! Because he was always over at their home. But my brother never put them over my sil. They all hang out. And yeah they’ve taken trips together. But nothing like this.

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Zedrapazia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why are the people of this subreddit so obsessed with trying to uncover an assumed gay affair here that probably doesn't even exist? I find it pretty weird ... I've also shared a bed with my best friend for a month when we were doing a little travel together, and nobody ever called us lesbians because of that.

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Pumpkin Spice
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Intimate doesn't mean sexual! And the OP SAID that the accusations were making him uncomfortable. They're best friends, goddammit. Quit it with the conspiracy theories and focus on the actual problem. If the roles were switched, husband would be TA. So the wife is TA here.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Well, i am married and a father. If i happen to spend a week end with (a) friend(s); which happens once a year or less, i will not be 100% unreachable, but definetely not answering texts or calls for extended periods, and dedicate my time and attention to the people i am with. And guess what, my wife is absolutely fine with that. And i return her the favor as much as i can.

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JMC5003
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yep. My late husband went on an annual golf trip with his buddies, plus an overnight fishing trip once a year. Those were the days before cell phones were common and he was often unreachable for a couple of days at a time, but I never questioned him or discouraged him from going - and I never felt threatened by the trips. But I had a tremendous amount of respect for my husband and he for me. IMO, if you don't trust and respect your partner, why did you marry them?! The repeated phone calls show a total lack of trust and respect.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I need to point out that if they were two women no one would have looked twice at their relationship. This is toxic masculinity at it's finest.

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Akia Bowens
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they used the words and phrases he used to describe what happened in their alone time then yes, they would say the same about two women. Ya'll throw everything under the sun out there to try and justify a mans suspicious behavior if it seems hes cheating but let it be a woman and everyone automatically jumps to that conclusion

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is the spiciest thread I've ever read from this sub, holy cow

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R Nolan
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is all Brokeback Mountain. He's just hedging because he wants support. He's lying to this woman but he's not lying to himself he knows exactly what he's doing. Just the way he acts so annoyed that she's even trying to get a hold of him or that he thinks she's talking too long speaks volumes. There's a selfish aspect to his supposed nicey nice relationship with this dude and it says he's lying

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I doesn't matter if you have an affair with this friend or not (people invent c**p to look smart, they don't). I don't care if you just got married. It's one weekend out of 52. It's a phone-free weekend. First the text, then the call, then more text and calls, then again. Is she TRYING to ruin your weekend? If she had suspicions about anything, she would have talked about it before the weekend and would have tried to not let you go. I'm not sure the problem is with you. It's obvious she MUST be the only thing in your life from now on. Drama-Queen. I can even imagine that if you would have been at home at the time of the "emergency", she would have ignored you and gone to see her sister and relatives, without giving you as much as a thought. Me Me Me!!!

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Aria Whitaker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What do you think would have happened if his wife was mugged, shot and the hospital would have been trying to contact her next of kin? I agree with the commenter who said a number for the hotel lobby should have been left in case of an emergency. He is married and he is her next of kin...the one that has to make medical decisions when she is unable. Phone free weekends are terrific when single with no obligations. That is not the case now. She should have laid off the calls, I can agree with that...but acting like she had no right to be able to reach him is simply immature, imo...he is a whole husband now with responsibilities. .

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Autumn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, this whole thing is weird. She shouldn’t have pestered him like that but they should have talked about what was happening and made a plan if she wanted to stay in contact. And while I don’t think that these two guys had a full blown relationship or anything, it seems like there was something going on at some point. It sounds like they all need to have a nice big honest discussion and figure this all out.

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah they do. Both he and his wife need to stop lying to themselves about what’s going on with this friend.

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Mad McQueen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She should have followed the rules so that when Peter cried wolf you could know it was serious. And besides how long would it have taken to return? And I'm sure every bit of info would have been relayed. She's at the hpt. They taking for X-rays. She's got a room. She looks like poo. Etc. she deff should be brought on a trip like this with you and told no phones. She would prob sneak one. But also might enjoy it. Give her her own phone free week or weekend.

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whaaaaaaaaaa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is good advice. Don't downvote people just like that. This person has a point and a solution. This couple certainly needs to work through these issues, they have to trust and understand each other.

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Sonja Wainwright
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seems like your priority is your friend. You need to rethink your marriage.

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Mim“the Swede”Sorensson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Because of ONE weekend out of fifty-two? Or is it because he, god FORBID, has human contact with anyone else then her? What on earth is the demand for a marriage then, to give up all of your previous life and interest so you can spend every waken hour adoring your spouse? Sounds more like a cult then a healthy relationship.

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Brianna Tracy
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not going to comment on who is the ah here because I don’t think we have enough info and I think of its more of a “they both need to compromise situation. However, i noticed Based on the OPs replies and original thread, he speaks about his wife w a little bit of disdain. Whether it’s deserved or not…they seem like they need to work on some things for sure.

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Jennifer Checki
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not understand the number of people assuming this is a gay affair. OP makes it clear he’s done this annual trip twice while dating his now-wife, and she had no issue with it. If her behavior were based on her suspicion of an affair, the timing is odd.

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nah girl I didn’t think it was gay thing until he mentioned nothing explicitly sexual had happened between them. He’s hiding something. He won’t have him over to his home with his wife? He will take calls outside while he’s out to dinner with his family? I thought hey everyone needs some time with friends and boundaries but I believe he’s having a unspoken affair or an obvious emotional affair with his platonic friend.

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Erin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can kind of understand why the wife might feel insecure as it is one thing to share and apartment but also why did they have to be sharing a bed while the lived together? They could have had two single beds or even a bunk bed when they lived together? The way he words is weird because he says nothing explicitly sexual happened but what does he mean by that and he also made a comment about their relationship not being entirely platonic either which I find super confusing. Basically he goes on a tech-free weekend every year with someone that not only did he share an apartment with but he also shared a bed with and then wonders why his wife is now worried about it when they're married....

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just find it weird because he’s not being clear and a weekend? Are we sure it’s not a mountain instead of a city here?

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Lori Harper
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went to the actual Reddit post on this one. The comments were...wow. You could tell reading down the posts when OP was letting out more and more info about his relationship with his BF. They went from "clingy, annoying wife" to "hidden love affair with BF" to "almost-but-not-quite-there-yet" declarations that OP is trying to say he's gay but not ready to come out. Whether he's gay or not isn't really the point. The fair thing would have been to NOT get married until he has sorted out his love life. He makes his wife sound like an irrational harpy while defending his BF to the death. THAT alone tells me (but apparently not him) where the loyalties are. He should cut the wife loose and work out who he wants to be with. If you're not healthy, your relationships won't be. If he had been honest from the beginning of his post, he would have been deemed TA, but it seems he can't even be honest with himself let alone his wife

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Michał Osiecki
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

its a bit fishy l,.the relationship with the friend, especially when the guy is evading the true answers

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Manny v
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is was definitely being misleading about the nature of their friendship, sharing a 6 year domestic relationship that includes eating and sleeping together every night does not sound like the everyday male friendship. Also, What does nothing 'explicitly' sexual mean? Like they kissed on accident? They had a rough cuddle sesh? Seems like OP thinks he's convinced everyone that a very normal bro trip is happening and that no one can actually see it's a gay romance weekend.

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Anitra Brooks
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree. Many aren't realizing that for the years they dated she wasn't privy to any "no tech" trips. Once married he informs her of his weekend getaways. I can only imagine the confusion. Newly wed and your husband tells you of a no contact trip that he's been taking for years. Leaves you alone and concerned because he didn't bother to even take trips/ vacations with you his wife. Not to mention how much notice did he give for this trip? The day of? Communication is a two way street.

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August
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Y'all crazy, they're 100% gay. Otherwise, he would have just said they were best friends and roommates. Instead, it's "not exactly platonic but not explicitly sexual". You're either platonic or you're not platonic, there is no in-between. He should never have gotten married. Hopefully she dumps his a*s and he can go back to his " totally-not-a-boyfriend".

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So if his relationship with the other man isn't sexually explicit (his words), then was it sexually vague?

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Sonja Wainwright
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are tag. You might think about divorcing your wife and move in with your friend, sounds like he is the priority!

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Natalie H
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Let’s be honest here…Turning off his phone, but using his friend’s phone for navigation/sightseeing/club-hopping is NOT an “off-the-grid/tech free” trip. It’s a “wife-free” trip. There have been times I enjoyed a trip without my husband, but I would never shut him out by turning off my phone. (What if there was an emergency??) OP needs to think about his priorities. How would he feel if his wife did this to him?

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Bonita Thornton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My opinion is that your wife has a right to be angry. Key word, wife. I think there is more to this than you are saying. I have a feeling you are not bei I honest .

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are the ahole. You obviously don't want a relationship you want a fill in convenient when you are home but when you're away you ignore her? Obviously she needed your assurance or comfort and you ditched her. People talk about boundaries and this or that yet had she felt secure she wouldn't have messaged you so much. Also what a horrid thing for you someone liked you enough to want to reach out while you ignored. Enjoy your single pathetic life. Men .. . (Eyeroll)

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This seems awfully suspicious to me. The red flags are when he said that when people assume they're having it makes him uncomfortable and when he said that "nothing explicitly sexual happened." Well just tell us what happened. I'm 54yo gay man and my best friend is a 45yo straight man. As a matter of fact most of my male friends are straight. We met three years ago and are like brothers. We have never hooked up. Gay men love to ask me if we've hooked up and I just tell them no. It doesn't make me uncomfortable because I have nothing to be uncomfortable about. People never ask him, only gay men ask me. It's annoying, but nothing to be uncomfortable about. I also think it's more than a hook up. I think they might actually have a relationship and the reason the phones are turned off is so they don't want to get caught. I truly believe this man is cheating on his wife with another man. Just my opinion.

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Nannette Mofield
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You sir Are to blame any past sexual relationships should have been cut off when you got married. You are a very selfish individual who wants his cake and eat it too. Be honest with your wife and stop being a inconsiderate brat

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Donna Lane
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When the poster admited they shared a bed....I dont know any young guys thats going to share a bed...the other guy would be sleeping on a couch or in a sleeping bag.It sounds like they had a nice domestic setting for a long time, maybe they never crossed the whole line but they definitely engaged in some type of activity!!! So maybe he hasnt decided which team he really wants to play on. Like others when I 1st started reading its a guys trip and we agree no tech, I thought ok sounds reasonable.I used to travel a lot for work and I didnt want my husband blowing up my phone but we still communicated at least morning & say goodnite.But this wife suspects something, she just doesnt have all her proof yet.Its extremely interesting this guy goes to his friend " house" because his wife wants the house spotless? Ok dude clean the house invite the friend over!! But nah thats not what you guys want, think you want alone time.Otherwise you would be meeting at a bar, sporting event etc.

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Ken Sell
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was going to say YTA only because by the time you get married and make an adult commitment to someone, there should be some clues in your behavior that you have put away your childish things. It was clear that your wife was uncomfortable with your arrangement, and I'm sure her behavior didn't come out of nowhere. It was cold and disrespectful the way you turned off your wife's only link to you as if she were a bad podcast. When she couldn't reach you, it confirmed all of her fears, and after a whole lot of evasive, parsed answers to the readers' questions, it confirmed mine as well. I feel very sorry for your wife, because she married a confused child instead of a man.

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CalamityE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sister breaking bones in an accident, not an emergency for her to call about. If it was her, it would be a Dr calling and then yes, he absolutely should be coming home to assist. I have seen people sent home next day after the accident because they were deemed fit to go home or in other words, someone lived with them that could take care of non life threatening injuries.

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Dillon Sizemore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what I've been looking for. If it is not her back, skull, pelvis, a rib in the upper rib cage, or a femur it's not an emergency. She will be fine given time and if you have enough broken bones that are not one of the above to become an emergency they are going to sedate you gor 24 to 48 hours at minimum same as if you broke one of the bones above. So there really is nothing he could do to be of help besides emotional support and even then it is a case of boy cries wolf. If I say no contact. I mean no contact. If you don't trust me enough for that I do not want to be your spouse.

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Cindy Caruso
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA mute phone call or text morning and evening when safely in hotel. Making sure she's ok alone. But no communication with your wife is not acceptable. Wife needs to learn how to not blow up your phone all day she might need to plan something with a friend while your away to make the alone time easier to handle. Counseling would help.

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Ryan-James O'Driscoll
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I mean, he's slightly suspect around his history with this friend, but my history with my own friend could be seen as such if looked at through that lense. He's most definitely not my lover.

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Gryf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He's just mad his weekend off from women was interrupted. Couldn't pull out long enough to answer a call 😂

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ERIKA H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Esh. I am thinking clear boundaries and expectations weren't actually discussed from both parties. I am leaning more on he's TA because of the way he acts "confused" by his wife checking in and asking how he was doing. That's called having a partner who genuinely cares and has interest in you, dude. I also don't like how flipid he is acting towards her sister's accident. In one of the comment he responds with "I guess she needed my emotional support". Um, yeah! Something that is a bare minimum in all healthy relationships.

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CalamityE
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And if anyone who has delt with Drs in that kind of emergency (broken bones in accident).. they ask if they have anyone living with you to help assist you? If sister doesn't, wife might wanted to step up. However, that would have been a surprise for him. Yes, this was not an emergency but seeking out your partner to discuss if that is probably the best.

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James Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are more states of status than a-hole, not a-hole. This sounds like confused and not able to read the room. It sounds to me like the friend is disguising the "other person" weekend as a "boys' no-tech weekend" in order to get some facsimile of fulfillment of unresolved feelings, and that the OP is deluding himself that he's not doing the same thing. That's not to say that they're having a fully sexual affair, but it might be more than just buddies unwinding from an emotional standpoint. His wife picked up on something. I'd wager that without knowing it, the OP started talking about the weekend differently than previously.

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Ray Arani
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH, turning off the phone was a danger move. Muting was fine. But also, the wife should have either said so if something was bothering her about this trip ahead of time, or respected what was an established boundary she didn't speak out about her discomfort on beforehand. If nothing about the friendship was actually bothering her, something was different this time, and they need to figure out what that was. There could be something unrelated going on, mental health issues, a pregnancy, grief, escalated work or family stress, there's not enough info here, but this sounds sort of like a situation where OP and wife need to talk it out and it doesn't really matter who TA is.

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Ambry Petersen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would say that OP needs to grow up. Marraige is a big responsibility. I occasionally go on trips with my Mom, (My husband is rarely able to get off work. He asks for the time off but his jerk of a boss refuses to give it. Throws a fit even if one of the workers was not at work because they were in the hospital for an emergency. So he rarely gets to join us). However While I don't always hear my phone I do text or call at night to let him know we are safe and well. I never turn my phone off. When you marry and start a family, your family comes first, before your friends. There comes a time when you need to leave your teenage years behind. You wanted marriage, you have to live up to it. Yes your wife might seem needy, but she loves you and probably misses you. It's the first trip you've made away from her since you were married, she was probably lonely and yes worried about you being so far away. Once married most people don't like being away from each other for long periods.

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Anitra Brooks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

His wife is for the first time finding out about this "trip". He states that for the 2 years they dated he never informed her of any trips but advise her "I would be busy for the weekend". It's possible from her perspective that as a newly wed that she'd be concerned by his choosing to go mia for a weekend while traveling from home. It's brand new to her. It's one thing to imply that you're either busy working or maybe even house cleaning. Suddenly leaving the state, city, or dwelling without your significant other for an entire weekend and not want communication would be concerning. It's new territory and at the very least should have been discussed prior to marriage.

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Elizabeth Andrews
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My best friend and I met at age 10, we're now 25 and 26, she lived with me in highschool and we shared a bed for a year before. We watched shows together and waited on the other like he said, we've seen each other naked in dressing rooms or changing in our room, we have shared hair brushes etc and it was never sexual it was more of a sister I don't see how people think he's having an affair. My best friend and I have girls days where we go out just us and catch up or have lunch and yes we have gone on weekend road trips without bfs and had to tell them we're on a trip and limiting calls and texts so we can enjoy our time and not be constantly otp and they never got pissed off or assumed we were gay? I can't believe people automatically assume people are gay or cheating just because they're not blood related or married. You can't have friends of any gender without being accused.

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Elizabeth Line
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah but you just said that straight forward. His explainations were purposefully vague and half answers. He made himself suspect by not just speaking plainly. He also was quick to ditch his wife for his friend if he called, would only go to the friend's house and rarely let his wife and best friend see each other so they never became friends. My best friends and my husbands best friends spend loads of time with us. There are people in each group we don't really connect with but we have some form of friendship. I call his best friend my second husband and he gives lots of hugs and stuff to my bestie neither of us hide it even from strangers lol. He is actively evading.

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Jessica N
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can people read? Obviously nta. No prior sexual relationship exists and he clarified this in comments. Just bc you share a bed as roommates doesnt mean anything, i shared a bed with my first female rommate when we were 21 and 36 and she couldnt be more straight if she were a yardstick. If my s.o were obsesded woth social media and constant contact i'd set these boundaries on a trip away as well. If we don't set no phone boundaries, people tend to sit and stare at phones instead of talking while out to eat or anywhere

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John Doe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He hasn't clarified anything, he's being deliberately vague about the details of his fake platonic relationship.

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Be a better human
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Everyone is missing the point. Stop focusing on the bed sharing ECT...a comment that crossed a line was when op said his wife gets mad when he takes his friends calls when they are over at his parents privately and leaves her there alone.. that's a red flag. So this private family time they have, he is allowed to take his calls. she is 2nd she will always be you yelled at her and called her drama when it was private time with your buddy and she called u, but you can give 2 shits about private time with your wife...why did you even marry her clearly she is not your other half this guy is. platonic or not IDC but you put him 1st before her. Even how you describe you life with him "your routine" I can tell it was happy and you talked about wife you just s**t on your wife the whole time. And I feel your wife knows it and doesnt know how to deal with it. So she acted out. Probably has self esteem issues not strong enough to say I deserve better than this s**t She needs to leave your a*s cuz you lied to her. She probably wants a partner which you already had with your buddy and yet you married her led her on. also if the comments about being gay made you uncomfortable chance is you need to talk to a therapist about it. It's 2023 no one cares anymore if your gay. You need to think why it bothered you if your not.

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georgina gonzalez
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I want to think that the wife knew of this tradition and the type of relationship he has with his best friend (not implying anything sexual btw) yet marriaged him anyways. It's not cute to change the rules just because you get married. These rules have to be set before hand. I feel she has no right to be angry. She should have focused on her sister and not her husband, I think she used this situation to bring up a point..

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Elec Aire
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ridiculous. What were you supposed to do about the emergency? Is she that incapable all the time?

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Videogames and Fieros
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow... There are some messed up people with huge hang ups that commented. First, his phone free weekend clearly wasn't phone free, because he was answering her calls at first. She could call him if she NEEDED him. He had also set boundaries with her. And she was fine until she wasn't. That's not OP's fault. She should have made it known ahead of time. And to the nuts that are saying you can't take a vacation from your marriage, you damn well can. I've been with my husband for 15 years and sometimes you just need some space. Then there is the problem with OP and his friend having been an item at some point. So what? Even if they were, which OP says they were not, are people not allowed to do things with their ex? And people need to get a proper understanding of what intimacy is. It means a close friendship. And some people use that word with that meaning. OP is definitely NTA. But many commenters are.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh hunny, you NEED to read his update 🤣🤣 He's divorcing his wife to live his "authentic life". And as a topper? He feels absolutely no empathy for her. He's just happy he's got his Bae now! Oh, and he admitted to having been sleeping with "friend" for the past 10 years. Definitely not an ex.

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A Random Anvil
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, the Wife seems overbearing. A true emergency is "hey, your son just got in a head-on and is not expected to survive. You need to go to the hospital ASAP!" The accident where the person had broken bones was already dealt with, so not an emergency. She does not respect boundaries. That's super problematic.

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I DO agree she needed to chill. BUT maybe something happened or she got other info on this friendship that got her anxiety gears going.

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Loreitta M Tuthill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP, your mistake was not calling your wife each evening and sharing about some of the things you saw and did. She would have felt more included in the weekend and it probably would have decreased the texts. Let her know that during the day you won't be by your phone but will call her each day and Incase of emergency leave a message at the front desk. You aren't a teenager any more and you have another person to be considerate of now. The family dynamics have changed. Why don't you see if she'd like to visit where you and your friend went, make it a romantic weekend for you two.

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tori Ohno
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what happens when you cry wolf. All of her intrusive calling made him ignore her. But, I really don't think her sister getting into a small car accident is a "family emergency that she Needed him for".

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Elizabeth Line
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So my husband's co-worker got rear ended. No broken bones but she is out of commission. The car completely totaled 100% unsalvageable. Just because she isn't dead doesn't mean it was a 'small' accident.

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Onyx May
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If his wife is so clingy then maybe he should leave her for this guy who actually respects him

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Rahul Pawa
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think he's TA for not compromising at all on his "phone free" weekend. Sounds like his wife also failed to state her needs clearly. Instead of offering a compromise when his wife started texting, he ignored her messages and eventually turned off his phone. That's a d**k move. A compromise could have been agreeing to a set time for a phone call or video chat.

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Sadie Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem with reading Reddit post on BP is when information is updated your still making guesses and assumptions in the comments. If you go to Reddit now... OP just recently posted on reddit that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life. So there ya go.

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Alicia White
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

if my DH went away for the weekend with someone he hooked up with before, or an old roommate who may or may not, assuming I dont actually know, but may suspect, had a thing for him? Oh heeeelll no.

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Chris Brooks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is wrong with these people? Have shared a bed with my best friend. We slept with our heads on opposite sides, and we both know the other isn't gay. Its better than sleeping on the floor or a couch. You can sleep in a bed too, it's not just for fk'ng!

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Rocco MZ
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You need to read all the comments. He basically admits they hooked up before he was married. He said their relationship wasn't "sexually explicit." Like WTF does that mean? I'm gay and I've shared a bed with straight friends and it's just sleeping, but this guy admits the relationship was more than platonic.

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TalenaBr.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OK this was a weird one, but since I really haven't seen, I'll point out what screams at me... Prior to marriage you did not explicitly tell her what these trips were. You"simply told her I was busy and not to call"... and when you don't live together or are planning to eventually, then sure. But then you get married and drop this information out of nowhere and expect her to just go with it. You were not forthcoming before and now you're dealing with the headache. Not only is it news to her, but doing it with you friend she's only courteous with. Not gonna make any Assumption on relationships... But you kinda shot yourself in the foot. NAH

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YetAnotherSarah
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP just recently posted that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life. Truce, everybody!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Have none of those "YTAers" had a friendship like this? Wtf?! This poor guy is just looking for advice and people are dumping on him because he had a mutually fulfilling intimate agapic love shared with another human! I went through the comments and NO WHERE did OP say they had a conjugal relationship, just that it was an intimate friendship. People suck so bad!! NTA, NTA, NTA!!!!

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He recently added another update in which he's divorcing his wife to be with this same friend that he's actually been sleeping with on the side for 10 years. 🤷‍♀️

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Stay Off My Lawn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh so he thought he could get married and still act single? If his mom had died while he was out with his buddy he 100% would’ve blamed his wife for not trying hard enough to reach him.

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Some rando dude
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's NOT what is happening at all. Wifey didn't have a problem with this until they got married either this year or in 2022. Also, wifey had been texting before the actual emergency happened. So of course he's gonna turn off his phone if she's just crying wolf. If the roles were reversed, everyone would be saying that she should divorce her husband. But since it's the man, you have people telling him he's TAH. This isn't a situation of getting married and acting single. This is two male best friends going on a weekend trip with a phone free rule. Apparently guys can't be friends with guys either without it being seen as gay or a cheating scandal.

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Julianne M
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Oh my Zalgo... everyone in the comments suck. The dude isn't gay. They probably are like brothers to each other. The wife is the ahole. The guys did nothing wrong

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Cary
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you get married you make vows. I would divorce a man trying to avoid me. If you have a cell phone you better answer. And she should have been invited on the trip. It's fishy

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Charlene King
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. She had two years to know how your time away goes. Only 2-3 days for goodness sake! Passive-aggression here. I would not be entirely surprised if she was stress-venting to her sister when her accident happened. You should hold your ground. Do not budge. You're right, she forced your decision and brought that important missed call on herself.

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Sparkle
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That comment section is wild! I have no idea what's even going on....

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Suzie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As if she couldn't call their hotel and leave a message about the family emergency. Although it's not the kind of emergency that makes you cut your trip short for.

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StarlightPanda!
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So it was true. He was just in denial. He admits it in an update (someone linked it below.) While being true to yourself is important, I really hope he realizes just how much this is hurting/going to hurt her. This is going to take a huge, psychological toll on her. I can't even imagine..

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Arenite
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He’s not wrong for turning off his phone but buddy just get a divorce.

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Nathan Wolfe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are three elements of relationship: platonic (friendly), intimate (love and trust), sexual (self explanatory). A platonic relationship would be me with my neighbors. We get along, but we only hang out 1-2 times a year. Intimate would be me and my best friend. We go out of our way to help each other, we make plans to spend time together, we go on guys nights. Sexual would be me and my wife. We have sex. Any relationship can have any one or a mix of those. What OP was saying is that he's intimate with friend, not that he's sexual (though when cohabitating, you may accidentally see parts you wouldn't otherwise, which may be the 'sexual' thing he was thinking of).

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Janet Graham
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do not give this marriage any chance of lasting. They have been married for about a year and have some severe issues. She feels insecure about his friendship. He calls her a 'clean house type'. She wants his emotional support for a family crisis, he says he wouldn't have come home anyway. In the early years of my marriage, you couldn't have separated my husband and I for a weekend, no matter what. But, it was never a big deal to have girl's nights or boy's nights that might run into overnights! There is a middle ground on being unplugged; take calls at a set time, leave messages with the front desk, etc. He may not be the AH, but I sure wonder why he is even married.

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K-Dawn Bennett
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She's the a**......My friend and his friends like to go dirt bike riding or street bike riding. They go for a weekend and travel to different places. I do not blow up his phone with a bunch of dumb calls and messages. In fact, I never bother him when he's with his friends and know he cannot hear his phone anyway. I'm usually the one who insists he go. They have been doing this long before I came into the picture and I don't do anything to ruin it. I'm ok with it, he sends txt or vids of their travels WHEN HE CAN and I don't get upset, whiny or wonder what he's doing every minute of the day. When he gets back, he shows me vids and tells me all about it and I tell him about my weekend. Damn, some women are so insecure, clingy, whiny and just a giant B sometimes. Nothing wrong with him wanting to unwind, relax and go semi off the grid for a few days. Sheesh grow up, get a hobby, go on a girls weekend while he's gone, sleep in, go to lunch or invite friends for a movie-a-thon.

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Skylar Jaxx
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

well I guess im a minority in this comment section: He is being to elusive and choosing his words too carefully for nothing sexual to not have happened. He would have said we lived like frat boys for a few years. Im getting they didn't penetrate each other but other things happened. Beside sharing a bed platonically.

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Kelley Baltierra
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have no problem if the op is gay or bisexual but if you're married and having an affair with your best friend, even if it's just an annual thing, maybe you shouldn't have gotten married in the first place. I feel bad for the wife: she probably only called you so much because her gut was telling her something is going on...

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Rebecca Smith
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA I just find the wife to be in the wrong here. He told her specifically that it was phone free, and not to contact him unless it's an emergency, and she didn't respect his request. About the whole affair thing, he specified that they were just friends. They're just keeping up an old tradition, which is totally okay.

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Sadie Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP just recently posted on reddit that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life.

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Samantha McHugh
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - Nothing wrong with tech-free with buddy. Who the Hell cares if y’all shared a bed when y’all were making y’all’s way in this world; saves on costs. A tradition is something to be proud of and treasure and the weekend thing is yours so keep it! Wifey sounds like she got a big up her cooter and decided to feel insecure about y’all’s trip and disrespect the already planned itinerary for that weekend. I felt irritated knowing she kept calling and texting becoz she clearly didn’t give two shits about your space.

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Richard Eaton
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP knew his best friend longer, living together in possibly a flat with one bed to save money. There was no sex involved. Look at your significant others and your best friends there are some that you'd die for over your partner. The OP set the boundaries her actions to hold the marriage honors were not honored. She used the not completely full emergency as like a hostage. The OP is not Ata. The fact that the couple don't go on trips was stated, the wife cannot go tech free. She has to have photos of things so she can talk about it later. There is no hidden message or revolation to be found here.

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Sadie Lynn
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except... if you go to Reddit and read his most recent reply... OP just recently posted on reddit that he's going to start therapy and expand his support network so that he can begin living his authentic life. Those commenter were right... he just wanted someone to tell him.

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Margaret Nixon
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why must we be able to contact one another 24/7-365. Back in the day my father used to go fishing on the weekends with some friends. It wasn't a gay free for all. He and most of the guys were married or were in serious relationships. The women could deal with stuff. I learned the same as I grew up. We didn't have technology to keep us attached at the hip. We just dealt with life. We seem to be too needy and can't stand on our own two feet. My husband died 20 years ago. I'm glad that I learned to be my own woman before he left the building. I loved him dearly, but this seems to border on codependency. IJS

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Pøet Liøn
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why was I reminded of Brokeback Mountain while reading this?

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Flora Porter
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ridiculous. It's perfectly reasonable to have a tech-free trip away. People have got too used to being in contact all the time but having nothing to say. I think the wife was always going to find some kind of 'see what you did?' event to punish him with so she can make sure he's never out of contact again.

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Lori w
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yta. No phone weekend but you bring phones for emergencies that you don't pick up? In the city? And he was answering the phone at first?

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Bobbi McGough Robert
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3 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Once upon a time there were not cell phones. How was anybody able to manage?

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Inclusion2020
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It is strange that the dude said that his wife wasn’t always so clingy regarding communication and things. While I don’t think there’s any gay affairs going on 😂😂, I do think this is only one side of the story.

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LaserBrain
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP can't blame his wife for "forcing his hand" to turn his phone off. Take some responsibility for your decision, that's a bit pathetic. No one should feel obliged to leave their phone on, or answer it for that matter. Maybe I just feel that way because I lived an age where we didn't have mobile phones, and not being in constant contact didn't cause anxiety. Sister's accident was unfortunate, but having his phone on wouldn't have changed it anyway.

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Smurphette
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5 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is a hypocrite. Wife isn't allowed to call when he's on his special friend time, but when he's at a family dinner, it's okay for him to *leave the room* to talk to the special friend? This is a problem. He is keeping the friend separate from his family, and that looks hella suspicious. Whether it is or not. OP needs to do some self reflecting here.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you go and read the actual Reddit post, he ends up admitting that he has been sleeping with his friend for about 10 years and only married his wife because his parents issued an ultimatum concerning money. An update he provides details how he is divorcing his wife but refuses to tell her the real reason why, but he's now happily with his "friend" at least! /s

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toxxic
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

His wording about his relationship with his friend is what makes this suspicious. Why is he being so vague? A simple "we are close, but not romantically involved" would have sufficed. The fact that he had to say they've been intimate but "not explicitly sexual" is weird. Like what does that even mean? We know they shared a bed. Not inherently sexual. But did they ever actually hook up in any way? I don't think it's weird to have a phone-free weekend with a friend and he seemed justified in turning off his phone since she couldn't stop calling. But I don't get why he had to keep vaguely saying they were intimate.

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jdtimid123
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. The husband because he could have easily sent a message saying things were going well, and reminding her that his phone would be on silent so he might not get messages quickly, I stead of flat out ignoring here texts right away. He also could have just turned his phone to silent, or turned it back on before bed to make sure everything was okay at home. He was being childish. That said, the wife knew he would be unavailable, and should have let him enjoy the guys trip in piece and only called for emergencies. I couldn't imagine my husband or myself telling the other that we didn't want to talk to them for a while trip, but if that's the arrangement she agreed to, then she needs either to respect that or have a conversation about why him being unavailable bothers her (It is kinda weird to go as far as he did about shutting her down right away).

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Dale Martin
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some everyone here only has friends the exact same age? Also, far too many people believe that once you're married you're one single person which you are not. Nope, still two individuals who need to be individuals as well as a partner in their marriage. Sounds like he having a guys weekend with a homie.

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Baylee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Those reddit comments were so weird. They’re literally taking OP’s words and twisting them. There is nothing wrong with guys being close friends and it does no harm in wanting to have vacations together especially if you’ve known each other for years. I think that the wife should’ve been understanding of the fact that her husband just wants to have a tech free weekend with his buddy.

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Joe Vey
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it sad that 2 long time friends can’t get away for a weekend without some idiots throwing around about being gay! Believe it or not I know of some guys that go for 5 to 5 day fishing and/or hunting trips for over35 years and no there married with kid’s & grandchildren so quite being stupid. As far as his wife sounds like she needs to get some friends so she’s not so dependent on him for companionship!!!

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R. H.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You're both AHs. Back when I was a child (late 20s) I thought living together was the same as being married. Then I got married.

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Paul Richards
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No NTA. IF she had respected the boundaries you agreed upon, no phones, and not essentially forced you to enforce the boundaries by turning off the phone, you would have been available for the emergency. But SHE repeatedly broke that trust this is on her Also a car wreck with a broken bone isn't an emergency. Did she want some emotional support, absolutely. Did she reciprocate when it came to you needing a bro weekend. I'd say get a divorce now cuz I don't see this getting any better

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Bonnie Boas
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

A lot of women call their husbands nonstop when they're away. My husband was with his friends on a guys weekend at some cabin with zero amenities, hunting and whatever else they were doing. I was the only wife that didn't call. He said one of his friends got into a phone confrontation with his girlfriend who called constantly. Also, what would he possibly be able to do with the "sister broke some bones" emergency? Say "I'm sorry to hear that"? That's ridiculous. If I were the wife, if I wanted time with my husband like that, I'd ask for an unplugged vacation as well.

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Calunii
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why people are so obsessed with the age difference. There are many circumstances that could lead to a 17 y/o being best friends with a 21 y/o. When I was 17 I was classmates with a 31 y/o. Clearly that age gap was too big for there to be any friendship, but 17 and 21 is not that big.

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Sonye Soliz
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My only input from everything on this cuz I've seen and experienced all possible scenarios. No trust, no boundaries. The friend of the husband obviously doesn't trust the wife's presence, and the wife in turn feels the same way about him because honestly both have history with same guy. Now, the friend has to realize his trips with the husband won't be the same, because home responsibilities when you have a significant other is detrimental in a sense as the two may want to start a family but the wife doesn't trust his commitment so she's overthinking how important she truly is. But who knows how deep the husband's friendship is, if the husband feels obligated to his friend because he's alone, that in a way says something. Mental support is important but if it feels more obligatory and not voluntary, then whoever becomes the support will be drained. That's why it seems the husband isn't gonna consider kids which is an indication to the wife of something deeper than it possibly is.

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Some rando dude
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Verdict: NTA. Wifey should have saved the previous phone calls and messages for an actual emergency. I hope her sister gets better quickly and is okay, but like everyone else has been saying, you really shouldn't have cried wolf.

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Bunzilla
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ONE weekend out of an entire year. I could see doing a couple of quick texts a couple times a day; like when you've first made it to the destination safely. Or exchanging a few texts before bedtime. But constantly during the day when they're trying to have fun with a friend? Weird, obsessive and untrusting. Also, if there was really an emergency and she needed to get in contact with her husband, she had the friend's number. Why didn't she try that number if he wasn't responding on his own phone?

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FlatEarf
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Originally I said fvck the husband, k!ll the wife and marry the friend, but then I realized this wasn't one of those things. But I say not the bad apple

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tom oneill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, you come back and hear about an accident, well it's like anything you hear on the news, it already happened so you can't do anything about it.

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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Your wife obviously doesn't respect you or your boundaries. No phones unless it's an emergency. WTF is so hard to understand? I quit speaking to my sister almost 2 years ago after finally realizing what a sh*tty, toxic b*tch she really is. She'd send me the occasional text, which I just ignore (she misses me, blah blah blah. Once upon a time we were best friends. Her alcoholism doesn't help). She recently moved and started sending me pics and asking my decorating opinions. I've never wanted to be as cruel to her as she was to me, but figured I needed her to "get it". I told her, look you're my sister and I love you, but I really don't want to talk to you. Please stop blowing up my phone. That was last Sunday. She texted me again last night "thinking of you". I'm just going to go back to deleting her messages (I don't want to block her because of my niece, who is having some serious mental health issues). And also so I know who's call NOT to take.

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Leelee Cee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

First i think its awful how ppl are trying to flip this post. I dont see anything sexual about their relationship. Ive slept in a bed with my female friends more times than i can even count! As a married woman myself I think they were both equally in the wrong. She shouldve respected his wishes n he shouldve put a specific emergency contact plan in place (maybe calling the hotel phone directly or an emergency code) for example my husband my husband cannot be in his phone at work but he does keep it on vibrate in his pocket. We have an agreement that if there is a real emergency i will either call the job directly or text his phone with "call me 911". I dont ever call or txt for anything else so as not to "cry wolf" in the 6 yrs hes been at the job i have used the txt code 2xs. Both times it was bc one of the kids were either sick or injured. I feel maturity level also has a lot to do with it.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Go back and check his update. He's been screwing the friend for the past 10 years and is divorcing his wife now.

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YD
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Women are possessive and guys occasionally want to break free... Once again, if the genders had been reversed, dude would have truly left his wife alone for the entire weekend and perhaps even salivated at the idea of her having lesbian sex with her long-time friend. Of course, when we go back to the original story, sh*tstorm ensues. Double-standard, what can I say?

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BoredMe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There's a lot of Redditors in that thread who "know" what's going on based on filling in the sizable gaps with their own biases, mostly fed to them by Hollywood. "If this were a woman, everyone would assume she was cheating" If the OP were a woman with a platonic but close female friend and her husband wouldn't leave her alone despite knowing the rules, these Redditors would be telling her to talk to a divorce attorney as soon as she could.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad people on BP seem to be largely reasonable. OP is NTA. Period. Wife is neurotic. Yes, information got revealed as this soap opera went on, however, OP seemed to bed very open and honest. This has been a tradition. If wife is jealous of anything, it is of the OP and BFF's history that well precedes her marriage and relationship with OP. Sister in car accident really sucks (my sister is my best friend so I get that) but ultimately, as the sister was okay, this doesn't constitute an emergency. The wife didn't respect the boundaries of "tech free" to begin so I don't blame OP. Who cares what "intimate" past was with BFF. It was the past. And I'm not implying the past means nothing, but it doesn't have to imply continuity. It also never implied a sexual relationship, as OP later confirms. Personally, if my husband told me he was going away with a close friend or one of his brothers for a weekend and shutting his phone off I'd support him 100%!

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Chantal Guyatt
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, this cut me off... I would encourage him, even (nice to get rid of him for a couple days!). But ultimately, I love and trust my partner so if he buzzed off for a few days, I'd miss him but I wouldn't resent him for it! And if something unfortunate happened when he was gone, we'd deal with it when he came home.

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Lunar
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont see how her sister's accident is an emergency. It's not like she dies or you can do anything.

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Henry Shane
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wait I can go away and tell my wife not to call? Hang on... Nope, says she will kill me. So yta.

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Kady LaHaie
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people can't stand not being able to check in. Especially wives and mothers in law.

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Pursuing Peonies
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She had two YEARS to figure out how to deal with it or come up with a good compromise that works for them. But she decided not to communicate at all and just suddenly push the issue after they were married? I get people are bad at communicating, but this needs to not be deemed acceptable anymore.

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Stacia
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You were out of town. There would be nothing you could do anyways so what was the point of her bugging you about it? She's there for her sister, few broken bones but fine. NTA

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Usually Drs will discharge patients that have someone living in the home..so unless sister doesn't have anyone living with her and wife wanted to move her in to help (that would have been a surprise for husband). There was absolutely no reason to call. I highly doubt sister lives by herself, Drs will even discharge with just roommates. They don't even have to take care of you..they just have to be there at home.

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Krosse
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wife didn't get the very obvious hint, called Wolf too many times. Your fault, witch. If you kept it to emergencies like he asked he would've been there.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

ESH. The wife knew this trip happened and was bugging him, I'd have muted her too and done the same thing when she continued her BS. But I agree there should have been daily check ins etc. But she f'ed around and found out. But tbh I think the OP did too lol. From the first post on I kept getting Brokeback Mountain vibes! FR he's going on vacation with his bff/ex bf. But if they've all hung out she shouldn't have an issue with it. Although I really doubt they keep it platonic. The OP needs to decide if he's with him or her or invite her to go with them if the OPs bff is ok with it. Also the way he talks about his bff is sketchy especially with the age ranges, kinda sounds all kid "grOoMing" like. And that afterwards the bff just stuck with the OP etc. The whole situation is odd AF but yeah ESH.

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Deborah THE Band
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA... You're just a chicken-s**t idiot. You must tell your wife everything about your relationship with Friend (That's the best ya' could do for this decade-long 'pal?' "Friend?" Fine.) It's not negotiable! However, your wife is an unconditional AH. She had known the rules for at least 2 years. She initially texted with 'Hi I'm bored' B******t." Now, she's upset because she needed you. No. She did not! Not your fault that she can't handle life. Were you 17 or 21? Doesn't F*****g matter! Your wife is an adult... again, I'm guessing... again. Her sister wrecked a car and broke a bone... bones... doesn't matter. No one died. Oooh. That is not life. That is a great piece of luck. Did she need you there to pat her on the back for her great luck?! Nobody died! She is an A*****e. Youre the idiot.

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Lenn
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WTF this is bugging me out so much! What on earth makes people think that 'its not platonic but also not sexual' means he is a liar and has an affair?! I shared beds with several friends bc it's not platonic because WE ARE GOOD FRIENDS. There is mothing sexual, we are good friends, we can hug each other and cook together and everything. Not in any circumstances does my SO think I will have an affair when I say I'll go out with my friends. This dude is CLEARLY NTA! His wife is TA, bc she self induced that he turned off the phone. Also, how much of TA the wife is, her sister had an accident, not herself. She should be there for her sister not demanding anyone be there for herself. Also out of context it wasn't even a bad accident. So she knew her sister will be fine, nothing to worry about. Sound like a realpy toxic and controlling wife to me.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you weren't married before you should tell her "your starting to sound like my ex-wife." When she says "You never told me you were married before." Say: "I wasn't."

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Wow, you're prophetic! She soon will be! Meanwhile, he's moving on/in with the "friend". (Check the update in Reddit).

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The amount of accusations that he must be cheating on his wife because he and his friend are...FRIENDS makes me as a queer person super uncomfortable.

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If you were my husband, you wouldn’t be anymore. You are married, that is a priority relationship, not your old boyfriend. I’m surprised you are still married. YATA!

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Sara Palczynski
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I know right?! I think she started thinking wait a minute this is getting weird. I honestly feel sorry for her because he’s most likely bi no man puts his friend over his wife or doesn’t have him over to the home he shares with his wife. My brother has close friends from high school two of them. Believe me the one friend drove my sil crazy! Because he was always over at their home. But my brother never put them over my sil. They all hang out. And yeah they’ve taken trips together. But nothing like this.

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