Having a stay-at-home parent can be a great blessing for a family. No need to pay for daycare, the child gets more time to bond with Mom and Dad, and the parent who stays home will likely have time to clean and prepare meals for the family. But this arrangement only works if both parents are on the same page.
Below, you’ll find a story that one father recently shared on Reddit detailing how pressure from his wife to become a single-income family ended up leading to divorce, as well as a conversation with Virginia Gilbert, LMFT.
After having their first child, this man and his partner agreed that both parents would be back at work within a year
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But when his wife decided she never wanted to return to her job, their marriage quickly fell apart
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Later, the father updated his post and replied to some of the comments he had received
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Some readers were skeptical about the legitimacy of the post, so the father responded again
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The majority of families in the United States are dual-income
The majority of families in the United States are dual-income, as surviving off only one parent’s paycheck is impossible for many. According to the Pew Research Center, only 18% of American parents did not work in 2021, including 26% of mothers and 7% of fathers.
While moms are more likely to stay home than fathers, 60% of Americans believe that the best case scenario for families is when one parent doesn’t have to work. Moms who get to stay home do spend considerably more time per week on housework and childcare than working mothers, but they also report having 11 more hours a week for leisure and 5 more hours of sleep.
In fact, the number of stay-at-home mothers in the US has been on the rise in recent years, largely due to the cost of childcare. And according to a survey from Motherly, over half of working moms have considered quitting their jobs due to childcare expenses. 64% of stay-at-home moms say that they would require flexible hours if they were to return to work, and two thirds of moms told Motherly they spend $1,000 or more on childcare every month.
“When one person feels that they are being used for money, or their financial contributions aren’t fully appreciated, resentment can build to the point of no return”
To gain more insight on this specific situation, we reached out to therapist and author of Transcending High-Conflict Divorce: How to Disengage from Your Ex and Find Your Power, Virginia Gilbert, LMFT. Virginia was kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda and discuss how common it is for couples to argue over issues such as this. “Disagreements over finances– which was one of the core issues in this couple’s split, because the husband felt they couldn’t comfortably afford to live on only his salary– are one of the top reasons people divorce,” the expert shared. “People often don’t realize they have different financial values, and when one person feels that they are being used for money, or their financial contributions aren’t fully appreciated, resentment can build to the point of no return.”
Because of this, Virginia says it’s important for couples to thoroughly discuss how they envision life together before tying the knot. “Many people get hooked on ‘feelings’ and the fantasy of marriage without understanding the teamwork and compromise needed to sustain a successful life partnership,” the therapist explained. “Many women want to stay at home full-time, but it’s often just not realistic to raise a family on only one income. Getting on the same page before you walk down the aisle will prevent conflict later on– or make you realize you shouldn’t get married!”
We were also curious if Virginia believes divorce was the right choice in this situation. “It sounds like there was a real lack of respect and flexibility in this marriage,” she told Bored Panda. “The husband repeatedly tried to communicate with his wife, but it seems that she shut him down because she was unwilling to consider his feelings and concerns. It’s almost impossible to have a healthy marriage when resentment and rigidity take hold, and if they’d stayed together, the child likely would have picked up on his parents’ animosity for each other.”
“Both of them need to separate their personal feelings from their new job as, essentially, business partners, which is what co-parents are,” Virginia went on to explain. “You don’t have to like your co-parent to be able to communicate effectively. They both need to manage their emotional reactivity and calm down before trying to communicate with each other. When they do communicate, they need to eliminate any emotion, subjective opinions, or parenting advice and stick to facts and logistics.”
“Staying mired in blame will drive conflict,” the expert added. “The best thing they can do for their child is focus on things they can each control, which is their own behavior, not the other person.”
Having a single breadwinner can put an unhealthy amount of pressure on one parent
While having a parent stay home can be beneficial for a child’s development and their bond with that parent, it can also put a huge strain on the other parent who has become the sole breadwinner. Having one income places additional pressure on one parent to excel at work, which can cause them stress. If they lose their job, it affects the entire family, which can be a huge weight to bear.
Research shows that children can be negatively impacted when their parents are experiencing financial stress, and when one parent is at work all of the time, they hardly have any time left to spend with their little ones. Children may feel disconnected from the working parent or start to favor one parent, depending on how each treats them when they get to spend time together.
Nowadays, stay-at-home fathers are becoming more common, but there’s still an overwhelming pressure in many societies for dads to be the breadwinners, which can add a lot of stress to fathers’ lives. One study from sociologists at the University of Connecticut found that the greater share of economic responsibility a father takes on, the more they report experiencing strains on their health and wellbeing.
Work-related pressures and financial pressures are also two of the most significant reasons men cite for their mental health issues. Before deciding if one parent should stay at home, it’s important for both parties to be on the same page. It impacts the entire family financially and emotionally to go from dual to single-income, so it’s not a decision that should be taken lightly or made by one person.
We would love to hear your thoughts on this story in the comments below, pandas. Do you think this father was right to get a divorce? Feel free to share, and then if you’re interested in reading another Bored Panda article discussing stay-at-home parents, we recommend checking out this one next.
Many readers agreed with the dad’s decision to file for divorce
Jeezus. Anyone YTAing this needs to stop and think. Yeah maybe she had post partum, etc. But this is flying in the face of what they agreed as a couple. And if she won't compromise, he had a choice to make. Which was his to make, and probably the healthiest choice for him and his ex, in the long run. I'm a solo mum, and SAH by a combo of disability and blood clots costing me internal organs: it's not the dream everyone imagines! It's lonely, boring, lots of time no money, no socialisation. I feel I'm unable to model properly adult behaviour directly for my child by not going to work. It's incredibly hard on the mental health, until you learn ways to compensate for the lacking things. She wouldn't have been happy, on a low income with a burned out and resentful partner. (Edited for spelling and clarification)
Feminism goes both ways. I'm sorry to hear you have health problems Lauren. And long time no see!! Gentle HUGS.
Load More Replies...I think the post is either fake or there is much much more to the story. I'm a family lawyer. I agree with the first reply - judges don't give 50/50 custody for babies. This is not consistent best interests of attachment of the child particularly in circumstances where one parent has been almost entirely absent.
I am also a family law attorney. There are many areas where judges award shared custody schedule of 3 days/ 3 days/ 2 days for babies. It isn’t accurate to say that judges don’t award 50/50 custody when in some areas that is the norm - especially if the parents live close to each other.
Load More Replies...NTA for the dad after reading everything. Wow! And women complain about sexism, and yet there are a bunch who are being sexist themselves. This reminds me of the JD/AH scenario, with those who refused to believe DV can go both ways (my brother was a DV victim and kept it quiet for 10 years). If he'd decided to be the SAHD, and demanded what his ex-wife had, would you support her side purely because she's a woman? Everyone should make up their mind what Equality between the sexes is all about.
I could not finish reading I got so angry with her. I always dreamed of being a SAHM, but life did not hand me a big bag of money. I do agree that during the early years, being with a parent 24/7 is the best, and we worked it out doing split shifts and I was also lucky enough to land several jobs, doing daycare so I could bring my Son with me. I worked fckin hard during those years ( I think hubby had it easy... lol) Looking back , I would not do much different. Marriage is a partnership ( I was married for 42 yrs) and honestly , OP's wife seems very selfish. It probably is not good for the child either.
Sounds like she was never truly driven and just waited for her opportunity to stay home
To be honest, I think a lot of women still think, secretly or not, feel that it is the man's duty to provide. She will work, parttime, but most women balk at being the only breadwinner of the family. If there are children, it's so easy to use them as a reason for staying home or not working longer hours. Even if you've agreed that the man works and the woman stays home, what if the man becomes unemployed and it takes a long time before he is able to get another job? Isn't it also the woman's duty to try and find a job? Children really do not need ever-present parents. Aren't you doing your children a disservice by not showing them how an equal relationship works?
It helps to reverse the genders while reading this. It is hard to impossible to know how to plan your life. Sometimes it just happens. Delayed parenthood could have been a better plan here, had wife been able to foresee her desire to stay home longer. Or, since his parents have the room, one solution could have been for the entire little family to move in with his parents for a while. Feeling stressed and disrespected kills love, so a loving solution could not be found. It is easy to read this and hand out the should-haves, but withholding judgement and trying to walk a mild in someone's shoes is usually the best.
To the people saying that Feminists called him the ah. No... Sexists called him that. Feminists are fighting against this kind of situations whether it's a man or a woman.
Not okay to back out a plan made as a couple without being willing to compromise. Not okay for one person to define who does what. Likely a lot of info missing but bottom line, if one person says "my way or the highway" choosing the highway is the way to go.
Nta a partner is supposed to share housework and child rearing 50/50 for her to just put this on you and say what she did , damn you Do this this that other and pay for everything is disgusting. Bringing up babies isn't thar hard (,yes I have raised two ), you are left with Moore than enough time to tidy cook etc. She just got lazy . As for childcare if she is dumb enough to pay for it instead of letting her family look after her then the payment can and should come out of her pockets not yours . Hold your head up high you did the right thing
Financially my husband and I are in the same situation. Just had a baby dual income, we make around the same, although his job permits him to make more due to overtime. It was really really REALLY hard for me to leave our baby at daycare after having to go back to work, but financially being a SAHM was not feasible for me, also I like my job. I have great benefits, and a pension. It's bittersweet and I miss her a lot throughout the day, but she is doing great at daycare. We found one that we love and trust and she's happy, healthy, and having social interactions with babies her age. Daycare is not all bad. But taking that first step and leaving her was extremely hard.
You are NTA she is lazy, petty, and vindictive. More concerned about painting you in a bad light than the safety and well-being of her child. Who in their right mind would turn down childcare from a competent loving family member offering services for free when you’re struggling financially? Seriously, who leaves a baby with strangers when you have a trusted grandma as an option?! That’s crazy
I read this one like an amusing short story. Usually agree in total about the husband. BUT, this time around.. something bothered me about him not too bothered at all about the mother of his child's financial situation. Yes, yes.. "she put herself there". I gotta wonder tho, if he gave opportunity for change after a threat of divorce or just did it. While he had supposedly already "missed 1 yr", that one goes fast and busy. That wasn't enough time to figure out the official future of your family. They honestly sound like they were never truly in love. So, seems fine to treat it transactional for the product of partnership.
She’s TA, not you. Things are too expensive now days for only one parent to work. Jobs don’t pay enough and most families need two working parents to even get by let alone live comfortably. Everything was laid out in front of her. She knew what was happening. It’s her fault. I knew I wanted to stay home with our kids and we ended up being blessed with three kids on different spectrums of autism plus two with ADD. Thank god I could stay home and take them to their special doctor appointments, counseling, therapy etc plus many meetings at the schools for IEP. I just recently went back to work now that they’re all teenagers but I made sure the kids came first. We had used cars, budgeted everything and didn’t live beyond our means. People are struggling just to live. It’s very sad
I'm confused with the math. He says if they had stayed together, daycare would have been 30% of her income, 15% of their combined income. But they both made equal pay? How does this add up? She would have been responsible for paying more of the daycare costs?
I feel this will end with mom moving away. She now shoulders the full brunt of the expenses he couldn't handle without 80 hours per week---but with daycare on top. That isn't sustainable. She's also extremely bitter and angry and she lost her ideal life vision. Necessity will force her to find a new living situation soon. If her family lives far away, that may be where she winds up. Possibly with baby in tow. There is a high risk that she will start hating the baby if/when baby shows signs of influence from his mom. There is also a high risk that mom will manage to find a man who CAN provide the SAHM experience. If that happens, she might dump the baby for a do-over family, or might wind up in an arrangement where she gets primary custody. As for him, he's also landed himself in an unsustainable living situation. He can only afford to exist if his parents cover all rent and all childcare. He can't move out unless he doubles his income or finds an idiot to be his sugar mommy bangmaid
If she chooses to move, and he is the one who can provide the greatest stability, it is not unthinkable that he might end up getting primary custody. He is also in a better position to find a more sustainable living arrangement when/if he moves out of his parents' house because I suspect her problem boils down, to a large extent, to the fact that she is trying to hold on to their existing residence, meaning that it would be easier for him to downsize.
Load More Replies...Daycare for 6 months old is not normal. You are just brain washed by capitalism. In most countries it is normal to stay at home for 2-3 years and then sent the kid to Kindergarten. There are places for smaller children but they Start at year old I think. And the mother has to be at home more, because the Kids just are sick all the time at first. You cant just go to work full time like normal
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But.....she wasn't the "nurses, receptionists, healers teachers, a cook, etc" was she? She was a mommy. She expected him, against his will, to work longer hours, come home, clean the house, cook the meals, and then spend his weekends cooking, cleaning and caring for the baby all alone. She stopped being anything resembling a wife. She refused to be any kind of partner. She made choices on his behalf, and refused to listen to anything he said. The circumstances of the relationship, were entirely to HER BENEFIT. He, was getting nothing but added stress, work, financial struggle and zero time with his child. Imagine if that situation were reversed. It's be treated as "toxic masculinity" all day long. But because a man, dared to call a woman out for being TOXIC and SELFISH.....oh somehow they're both at fault. When do we get to start talking about toxic femininity?
Load More Replies...Jeezus. Anyone YTAing this needs to stop and think. Yeah maybe she had post partum, etc. But this is flying in the face of what they agreed as a couple. And if she won't compromise, he had a choice to make. Which was his to make, and probably the healthiest choice for him and his ex, in the long run. I'm a solo mum, and SAH by a combo of disability and blood clots costing me internal organs: it's not the dream everyone imagines! It's lonely, boring, lots of time no money, no socialisation. I feel I'm unable to model properly adult behaviour directly for my child by not going to work. It's incredibly hard on the mental health, until you learn ways to compensate for the lacking things. She wouldn't have been happy, on a low income with a burned out and resentful partner. (Edited for spelling and clarification)
Feminism goes both ways. I'm sorry to hear you have health problems Lauren. And long time no see!! Gentle HUGS.
Load More Replies...I think the post is either fake or there is much much more to the story. I'm a family lawyer. I agree with the first reply - judges don't give 50/50 custody for babies. This is not consistent best interests of attachment of the child particularly in circumstances where one parent has been almost entirely absent.
I am also a family law attorney. There are many areas where judges award shared custody schedule of 3 days/ 3 days/ 2 days for babies. It isn’t accurate to say that judges don’t award 50/50 custody when in some areas that is the norm - especially if the parents live close to each other.
Load More Replies...NTA for the dad after reading everything. Wow! And women complain about sexism, and yet there are a bunch who are being sexist themselves. This reminds me of the JD/AH scenario, with those who refused to believe DV can go both ways (my brother was a DV victim and kept it quiet for 10 years). If he'd decided to be the SAHD, and demanded what his ex-wife had, would you support her side purely because she's a woman? Everyone should make up their mind what Equality between the sexes is all about.
I could not finish reading I got so angry with her. I always dreamed of being a SAHM, but life did not hand me a big bag of money. I do agree that during the early years, being with a parent 24/7 is the best, and we worked it out doing split shifts and I was also lucky enough to land several jobs, doing daycare so I could bring my Son with me. I worked fckin hard during those years ( I think hubby had it easy... lol) Looking back , I would not do much different. Marriage is a partnership ( I was married for 42 yrs) and honestly , OP's wife seems very selfish. It probably is not good for the child either.
Sounds like she was never truly driven and just waited for her opportunity to stay home
To be honest, I think a lot of women still think, secretly or not, feel that it is the man's duty to provide. She will work, parttime, but most women balk at being the only breadwinner of the family. If there are children, it's so easy to use them as a reason for staying home or not working longer hours. Even if you've agreed that the man works and the woman stays home, what if the man becomes unemployed and it takes a long time before he is able to get another job? Isn't it also the woman's duty to try and find a job? Children really do not need ever-present parents. Aren't you doing your children a disservice by not showing them how an equal relationship works?
It helps to reverse the genders while reading this. It is hard to impossible to know how to plan your life. Sometimes it just happens. Delayed parenthood could have been a better plan here, had wife been able to foresee her desire to stay home longer. Or, since his parents have the room, one solution could have been for the entire little family to move in with his parents for a while. Feeling stressed and disrespected kills love, so a loving solution could not be found. It is easy to read this and hand out the should-haves, but withholding judgement and trying to walk a mild in someone's shoes is usually the best.
To the people saying that Feminists called him the ah. No... Sexists called him that. Feminists are fighting against this kind of situations whether it's a man or a woman.
Not okay to back out a plan made as a couple without being willing to compromise. Not okay for one person to define who does what. Likely a lot of info missing but bottom line, if one person says "my way or the highway" choosing the highway is the way to go.
Nta a partner is supposed to share housework and child rearing 50/50 for her to just put this on you and say what she did , damn you Do this this that other and pay for everything is disgusting. Bringing up babies isn't thar hard (,yes I have raised two ), you are left with Moore than enough time to tidy cook etc. She just got lazy . As for childcare if she is dumb enough to pay for it instead of letting her family look after her then the payment can and should come out of her pockets not yours . Hold your head up high you did the right thing
Financially my husband and I are in the same situation. Just had a baby dual income, we make around the same, although his job permits him to make more due to overtime. It was really really REALLY hard for me to leave our baby at daycare after having to go back to work, but financially being a SAHM was not feasible for me, also I like my job. I have great benefits, and a pension. It's bittersweet and I miss her a lot throughout the day, but she is doing great at daycare. We found one that we love and trust and she's happy, healthy, and having social interactions with babies her age. Daycare is not all bad. But taking that first step and leaving her was extremely hard.
You are NTA she is lazy, petty, and vindictive. More concerned about painting you in a bad light than the safety and well-being of her child. Who in their right mind would turn down childcare from a competent loving family member offering services for free when you’re struggling financially? Seriously, who leaves a baby with strangers when you have a trusted grandma as an option?! That’s crazy
I read this one like an amusing short story. Usually agree in total about the husband. BUT, this time around.. something bothered me about him not too bothered at all about the mother of his child's financial situation. Yes, yes.. "she put herself there". I gotta wonder tho, if he gave opportunity for change after a threat of divorce or just did it. While he had supposedly already "missed 1 yr", that one goes fast and busy. That wasn't enough time to figure out the official future of your family. They honestly sound like they were never truly in love. So, seems fine to treat it transactional for the product of partnership.
She’s TA, not you. Things are too expensive now days for only one parent to work. Jobs don’t pay enough and most families need two working parents to even get by let alone live comfortably. Everything was laid out in front of her. She knew what was happening. It’s her fault. I knew I wanted to stay home with our kids and we ended up being blessed with three kids on different spectrums of autism plus two with ADD. Thank god I could stay home and take them to their special doctor appointments, counseling, therapy etc plus many meetings at the schools for IEP. I just recently went back to work now that they’re all teenagers but I made sure the kids came first. We had used cars, budgeted everything and didn’t live beyond our means. People are struggling just to live. It’s very sad
I'm confused with the math. He says if they had stayed together, daycare would have been 30% of her income, 15% of their combined income. But they both made equal pay? How does this add up? She would have been responsible for paying more of the daycare costs?
I feel this will end with mom moving away. She now shoulders the full brunt of the expenses he couldn't handle without 80 hours per week---but with daycare on top. That isn't sustainable. She's also extremely bitter and angry and she lost her ideal life vision. Necessity will force her to find a new living situation soon. If her family lives far away, that may be where she winds up. Possibly with baby in tow. There is a high risk that she will start hating the baby if/when baby shows signs of influence from his mom. There is also a high risk that mom will manage to find a man who CAN provide the SAHM experience. If that happens, she might dump the baby for a do-over family, or might wind up in an arrangement where she gets primary custody. As for him, he's also landed himself in an unsustainable living situation. He can only afford to exist if his parents cover all rent and all childcare. He can't move out unless he doubles his income or finds an idiot to be his sugar mommy bangmaid
If she chooses to move, and he is the one who can provide the greatest stability, it is not unthinkable that he might end up getting primary custody. He is also in a better position to find a more sustainable living arrangement when/if he moves out of his parents' house because I suspect her problem boils down, to a large extent, to the fact that she is trying to hold on to their existing residence, meaning that it would be easier for him to downsize.
Load More Replies...Daycare for 6 months old is not normal. You are just brain washed by capitalism. In most countries it is normal to stay at home for 2-3 years and then sent the kid to Kindergarten. There are places for smaller children but they Start at year old I think. And the mother has to be at home more, because the Kids just are sick all the time at first. You cant just go to work full time like normal
All thanks to Dr sikama. he is the most powerful spell caster i have ever known just in 48hrs my happiness was restore.. i promise to testify so i am glad testifying about his great spell. with Dr sikama your problems are gone. Email drsikama@gmail.com Hello, my name Hanny Shaphiss. After being in relationship with my husband for years, he broke up with me. I did everything within my reach to bring him back but all was in vain, I wanted him back so badly because of the love I had for him, I begged him with everything, I made promises but he refused. I explained my problem to my friend and she suggested that I should rather contact a spell caster that could help me cast a spell to bring him back , I had no choice than to try it. I messaged the spell caster, and he assured me there was no problem and that everything will be okay before three days. He cast the spell and surprisingly on the second day, my husband called me. I was so surprised, I answered the call and all he said was that h
But.....she wasn't the "nurses, receptionists, healers teachers, a cook, etc" was she? She was a mommy. She expected him, against his will, to work longer hours, come home, clean the house, cook the meals, and then spend his weekends cooking, cleaning and caring for the baby all alone. She stopped being anything resembling a wife. She refused to be any kind of partner. She made choices on his behalf, and refused to listen to anything he said. The circumstances of the relationship, were entirely to HER BENEFIT. He, was getting nothing but added stress, work, financial struggle and zero time with his child. Imagine if that situation were reversed. It's be treated as "toxic masculinity" all day long. But because a man, dared to call a woman out for being TOXIC and SELFISH.....oh somehow they're both at fault. When do we get to start talking about toxic femininity?
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