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People Are Applauding This Homeowner For Executing The Perfect Plan Against Local HOA After Getting Fined $200 For Ridiculous ‘Violations’
People Are Applauding This Homeowner For Executing The Perfect Plan Against Local HOA After Getting Fined $200 For Ridiculous ‘Violations’
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People Are Applauding This Homeowner For Executing The Perfect Plan Against Local HOA After Getting Fined $200 For Ridiculous ‘Violations’

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The Homeowners Association (HOA) has a bit of a notorious reputation for being too up in people’s grills for the most ridiculous of reasons. If you’re a part of one, you’ll know what we’re talking about.

But it’s by no means all rotten as there is still good and right in the world, as testifies this one Redditor. Well, that is, once they were done with it.

They have recently shared a story on Reddit detailing how a very rotten HOA in their locality picked a fight with the wrong person by fining them $200 for very HOA reasons and then, to top it all off, the VP of the said HOA was just purely arrogant to them. This meant war in the most compliant way possible—using the HOA’s rules against itself.

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    HOAs are notorious for their somewhat absurd rules, but people don’t have to take it if they are willing to concoct and proceed with an elaborately devious plan

    Image credits: Jocelyn Kinghorn (not the actual photo)

    The story goes that Reddit user u/chilldude890, with whom Bored Panda got in touch, bought a house a few years back in a mid-sized neighborhood. It had a Homeowners Association, but OP picked this neighborhood because it had the lowest HOA dues, the fewest rules, and the house was the nicest one they could find within their budget.

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    All was fine and dandy until they got two violations for separate HOA “offenses”. The first was the “lawn was not green enough”, and the other was that their “trash cans were too close to their driveway.” Classic as HOA offenses go, and both ridiculous.

    This one Redditor recently shared their revenge story of how they systematically disbanded a board of corrupt HOA members, and brought it back to actually serving the community

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    OP decided to disregard them, until next month they got fines for the same two reasons, each worth $100. OK, now this was getting serious, so serious actions had to be taken. A few calls later, OP found out they could appeal their fine directly with the HOA board by showing up for their annual meeting that was due soon. They did that.

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    It all started with two fines that the hero of the story got, each costing $100 and each absurd

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    Image credits: chilldude890

    Image credits: Umberto Brayj (not the actual photo)

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    Right before the meeting, OP found out that they were’nt the only ones with fines for absurd violations. They also got a chance to talk to a board member, who turned out to be the current local HOA VP. You might think this is great, but nope, the VP, a guy in his 70s, arrogantly told OP off for being a poor homeowner, adding salt to injury.

    But, here’s where things start to look up. The meeting kicked off with voting on 3 new board members. There were some applicants lined up, but folks could nominate someone on the spot. OP offered themselves as tribute and won the vote by a landslide. An interesting turn of events for a person who just wanted to appeal some fines, but that one board member provided enough fuel to bring the house down, and OP figured it would be better to do it from the inside, all the while doing something good for the community.

    At first, the homeowner wanted to appeal the fines, but their plan became immediately better when they found out they could join the people who make sure there are fines in the first place

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    “I had always thought about doing something in my community, though I had thought HOAs were a joke. The VP insulting me was most definitely a driving factor in my decision. The look on his face and the tone of voice just irked me so much. I never anticipated that I would discover so much corruption, though. That was a sincere surprise,” elaborated chilldude890 in our interview.

    By joining up, they figured they could do some spring cleaning and boot the other board members

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    Image credits: Susannah Binsted (not the actual photo)

    And so OP’s plan started to take shape. Being appointed secretary with limited power (which was a violation in and of itself), OP decided to first learn the ropes and look for opportunities to eliminate each board member.

    This is where I’ll invite you to read the original story itself, as I couldn’t do justice retelling the story as well as OP, but the tactic here was to look for violations that board members themselves were committing. And by the end of the witch hunt, it was surprising how much corruption was there in this particular HOA.

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    The president wanted to manipulate their neighbor’s outdoor décor by suggesting ridiculous flower rules, the treasurer and director were both suckers for public opinion, so a mob was quickly organized to dispatch them, and the VP… well, let’s say they got the worst end of the deal. And as each member of the board was picked off and eliminated Survivor style, a new member joined up—a new member OP themselves suggested.

    The fresh HOA recruit started with the president on board, turning her hopes of passing flower color control laws against her

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    The next one was a twofer, as the treasurer and director got knifed by their own vices of being easily swayed by public opinion

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    But, let’s talk about the VP. On top of now having a 4 to 1 majority in the board, which irked the VP every time he wanted to have his way, OP managed to dig up some dirt on him. Said dirt came in the form of $10,000 worth of violations. The reason why nobody knew about it was that the old management company that dealt with these records kept it quiet as per VP’s request. But now that the company had changed, the cat was out of the bag.

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    What this meant was that the VP was eligible for a swift kick out of the board as the bylaws (the ones introduced by the same corrupt board) stated that since the fines exceeded $3,000, a majority board vote could get an HOA foreclosure started on the VP’s home. And of course they did that in a heartbeat!

    The best was saved for last as it was personal with the VP—all because of their arrogant remark of OP being a poor homeowner

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    Image credits: Grant Wickes (not the actual photo)

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    OP was later informed that the VP had resigned, paid his fines, and put his house up for sale. All because someone wanted $100 over a lawn discrepancy and was arrogant about it. Goes to show you never mess with people.

    This in turn meant that OP was the new president, and started serving his community the right way by reducing the fining policy to a maximum of $400, letting folks appeal it whenever, as opposed to once a year, banning grass fines during winter season, and relaxing the trash violations.

    And boy did it pay off as the board found out the VP had $10K in fines outstanding, which made him eligible for a swift kick out of the board

    Image credits: chilldude890

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    Chilldude890 told Bored Panda that they had initially posted their story on r/pettyrevenge more to get it off their chest, but they were surprised to see how strongly it was received by the Reddit community.

    Garnering over 28,500 upvotes (with 92% positive ones), folks had a lot to say about all things HOA. Many noted how the HOA is a certain kind of trap for people to get accustomed to power tripping. And even more so when it’s mostly populated by older people who have very few friends and place their identity in the HOA, basking in its power.

    Others shared their HOA stories, primarily negative ones that reinforce the stereotypes that people love to hate in the HOA. Everything from being nitpicky with trash cans to disregarding safety rules to purposefully generating money for the HOA because apparently some of them get a kind of commission for violations. You name it, it’s there. OP did note on several occasions their utter surprise just how much the HOA can get away with.

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    Incidentally, we asked OP if, in retrospect, they think they could have somehow one-upped their revenge plan, but there didn’t seem much left to do given the context. “I don’t think there is much else I could have done. I did everything I could by the book. I wanted to do it in a way that both used their rules against them but complied to the letter of their own silly bylaws.”

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    The story comes with a happily ever after ending where the person who started it all became president and actually turned the HOA for the better

    Image credits: chilldude890

    If you’re wondering why HOAs are a thing and why they do this, the short answer is money. HOAs are private entities, often established by the likes of real estate developers for the purpose of marketing, managing, and selling homes in a residential area. It creates a win-win situation whereby the developers get income on top of selling a house while the homeowners get peace and order in their neighborhood.

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    One of the major reasons why HOAs became so predominant is because local governments figured they could reduce their operational costs by transferring some of the organizational tasks onto these associations. So they allowed it. But given that these associations also take on the financial aspects of fining violators, the costs for the local governments were reduced but so was the income from these residential areas. There’s much more, but you probably get the idea.

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    “HOAs often go far beyond their bounds and if you contact a code enforcement officer in your town, they can help you know your rights and how to fight them. I would also say that most of the corruption in HOAs stem from inaction. The people that want to control others seize the positions for themselves. So, if you hate yours, get involved and don’t stop. Change can come quickly. In addition, HOAs do actually help protect against certain issues in the neighborhood such as corrupt landlords (that’s a whole other story), keep shared spaces clean, and can help arrange social events to make the community closer,” concluded OP.

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    You can check out the post in its full context here, but don’t go just yet, as we know you’re dying to share your own HOA stories, or at the very least ready to comment on HOA violations. You can do so in the comment section below!

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    Rachel Ainsworth
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "land of the free" where you voluntarily agree to live somewhere that fines you for trash cans in the wrong place and grass not green enough.

    Mila Preradović
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like you don't actually OWN a house but subscribe to one🤔 nightmare...

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    Hobby Hopper
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She... didn't like her neighbor's flowers?! Why do these people sound like Disney villains?

    Dizzie D
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry USA but we have absolutely nothing like that in the U.K. and that is not freedom. You would get hysterical laughter mixed with wide eyes and a 'hell no' if anyone told anyone here to make sure their grass was greener and fine them for it. HOA's are totally bonkers. You have been duped into thinking this is even remotely acceptable. If your home and garden is not yours to do as you wish ( within reason, nobody likes a brothel next door or an extreme garbage tip) then where is your relaxed sanctuary? Being fined for doors not being the right colour or gardens not having the right flower colours....it's all a bit Stepford Wives to be honest. Yuck.

    sofacushionfort
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know there was a lot of friction in the UK when Asian and Caribbean immigrants started to arrive, but those numbers and the racist backlash was minuscule compared to the reaction in the US to the massive migration of African Americans from the US South. When the federal government prevented outright housing discrimination in 1964, the racist workaround was to form HOAs with standard designed to keep lower-income (darker-complected) buyers out. This was the original sin that created the current scam perpetrated today.

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    der sebbl
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, to get this straight: Some HOAs have the power to put MY house, that I bought with MY money on sale?

    Tuna Beach
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you owe mist ANYONE enough money, they have the power to do that

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    Yeah, okay.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You could offer me a house for dirt cheap, but if it had a HOA, I'd tell you to get the f outta here. I wouldn't touch a property with one of the for nothing. The entire point of owning a house is fixing it to what you want; otherwise you may as well rent.

    Zaza Zooey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I made sure to find a house where there were no HOAs. I'm grandfathered in now. Same with my mother and her house. Her neighborhood has since formed an HOA but she's not required to following their guidelines. They are ask her politely to participate, but she always declines, nicely of course. I have seen numerous HOA members get caught misappropriating funds and over-exerting their powers because their personal life lacks content. No thank you.

    Fenchurch
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have heard of HOAs harassing people that never joined because they assume everyone in their boundaries are automatically in it. I would go ballistic if they approached me for any reason that is none of their business.

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    JoJoB
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man, this guy is a pro at playing the long game! Well done!

    wyngerd
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These HOA are like the European garden associations, just with waaay to much power. A fine can only be given by state authorities. Not some randomly selected homeowners. The whole system sounds like a big bad joke. Why do people put up with that?

    Jo Firth
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While I think the HOA President was out of line, it bothers me that someone wanted to foreclose on a 70-year old person's house. Revenge should have stopped at making him pay the fine and step down from the Board. OP seems as petty as the person he set out to destroy.

    Zephyr343
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work with a lot of boards. They can be the most pretty, vindictive people you will ever meet. That little bit of power (from a volunteer position) makes them think they own the world. Homeowners that live in condos can be even worse. I had 2 contracts for over $1.7 million canceled because the homeowners didn't think they should be charged for the job. So they ran the board members off and canceled the loan. The work still needs to get done though

    Rougarou Cher
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That grass violation is really not good. Monocultural lawns are terrible. I have an HOA for the condo I live in and the monthly fee is insane. But they also for some reason think that they cannot end the year with a any savings because they don't understand that saving can be a part of a zero based budget. So they keep steadily increasing our monthly fee because, one incident for example, we had a lot of damage from a hurricane and there was nothing saved for that.

    Seabeast
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm baffled that HOAs are a thing in the USA, where "freedom" is supposedly such a big thing. I live in a condominium townhouse complex, so I expect some rules, but I'd never expect such a thing if I owned a separate freestanding house.

    Erin Geiger
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $100 says all of these HOA boards subscribe to the party of 'small government' 😂😂😂

    Stacia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why HOAs should be banned period. They are nothing but a nuisance and the fact a total stranger(s) can tell you what to do with your own property is ludicrous. Unless they are paying for my property taxes or mortgage they can F off!

    Scooter Mcgavin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This sounds fake as hell. There are so many conveniences that just so happen to line up for their plan to work perfectly. Oh i gave an elegant speech, fine. Sure, its not that hard to get on an HOA board if you try. But two members leaving because he said they should resign? the President just so happens to owe more than he should? your friends are voted onto the board no problems? like come on.

    Sofia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am italian and I dont understand why hoa can do that

    Rich Peall
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HOA are mafia, tell me otherwise.

    Chintan Shah
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm all for some of these sweet revenge stories and you obviously put a lot of effort into yours. No doubt you also care about your community that's why you stuck with being in the HOA for that long, so I applaud you for that. I do wish that we as a society can find ways to sway the minds of those who are mean and belittle others like that ex HOA VP/president of yours. It's far better for everyone to try to change that type of person for the better than to go to the extremes of initiating foreclosure / sale of the house. I agree they were wrong, but idk, just leaves a bad taste in my mouth for me to do something bad to them just because they did something bad to me.

    Unknown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That dude's in his late 70's, and a southerner.... He is NOT CHANGING, and definitely not going to "be changed".

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    And i was like WTF!!
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dont get this american HOA-s. I mean, if i got some money finnaly and got myself a house, you better belive ill put whatever i want on it/around it, and no amount of old people would change my mind

    CrazyCatLady
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think HOAs shouldn’t have this much power. The only power being able to put a stop sign up somewhere because of some speeding vehicle in the neighborhood. (guess the reference lol!)

    Diego,Laura
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is genius, evil genius. Bravo!

    dv8 sm
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why be a home OWNER, if there is something like a HOA telling you where to put your trashcans and how green and weedfree your grass has to be? Thats absolutely insane, only USA or German people would go for that, I guess…

    der sebbl
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope, such things don't exist in Germany

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    Donkeywheel
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a nice fiction that happened only in the head of the writer out of anger after having been fined.

    🇳🇬 Asi Bassey 🇳🇬
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do HOAs even exist? What if I chose to abstain from one, what would be the worst thing to happen?

    Devon Archer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can get behind this type of vengeance. Essentially the Batman of the neighborhood. Angry old dude just started this guys hero origin story..

    Seadog
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HOAs should be banned and anyone even mentioning starting one should be kicked out of the country entirely. They are nothing more than a neighborhood where a few individuals want to control everything but don't have the money to buy it all.

    TomCat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm all against HOAS, but maliciously trying to foreclose on an elderly person is morally wrong and shameful.

    Thomas E S Thomas
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thus we see, among the Small Council, Littlefinger was the strongest. Joffrey was out of the way, as was Veris, Jamie lost his hand, and poor Tyrian had vanished without a trace.

    Mark Howell
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have you ever watched the film the dictator

    Jessica J.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents just got the majority of people on their side, then they voted, and had the HOA disbanded. There was one guy who tried to muster support for reinstatement, but he lost, and eventually sold his house.

    LJ Robinson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And everyone lifted you on their shoulders, the streamers and paper floated, and they cheered your name.

    Eric G
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pretty much refuse to buy a house with an HOA. This is exactly why. The people who are on the boards have nothing going on in their lives so they look for any excuse to feel "useful."

    Mickysixxx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is madness! Is this just a bunch of nosey neighbours telling what to do in your own house? I have never heard of such a thing other than in a apartment block or similar setups. No way I'd pay any of those jerks and further more I would go and spread Round Up on all their lawns, except for the lady with the pretty flowers.

    Ace Girl
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would 100% watch this movie

    Jods
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the OP should have done instead of reducing fines was to do away with them completely. In my very limited opinion, HOAs don’t work, really *iss people off and give board members excuses to fine residents they don’t particularly like.

    Earl Grey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “A Man Called Ove” in real life!

    third molar
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is some crazy suburban john wick s**t!!! Awesome!!

    🇳🇬 Asi Bassey 🇳🇬
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP should seriously consider a career in politics. This is brilliant and devilish politicking. I love it!!

    censorshipsucks
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have something simillar in south africa. We have a distinction between (a) freestanding cluster houses, (b) townhouses, and (c) blocks of flats. The difference is the degree to which they are physically attached. (c) is where the residence units are on top of each other and there are no private gardens. (b) is where the units might be above each other or offset or semidetached and there are private gardens on the ground floor. (a) is where the units just look similar but are otherwise free-standing. Basically a village. In all of these you get a HOA. The rules are stricter the closer you are to (c) and they are weaker the closer you are to (a). Generally when you buy into any of these three arrangements you have to agree to the HOA rules. HOWEVER, they generally only specify a few things that are reasonable, e.g. 1. No loud noise/dogs. 2. Keep the building colour the same as the others. 3. No laundry in visible range. That's about it.

    MurderMittens
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HOA boards don't get to change rules w***y-nilly without a vote of the homeowners.

    Anony Mouse
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, stories like these are ridiculous exceptions, but a lot of HOAs are very reasonable. My mother lives in a small neighborhood (less than 100 units) run by an HOA. The fees and dues make sure the parking lot is painted, plowed in the winter, and that trees are trimmed and lawns are mowed. The rules are reasonable - you can't hang a confederate flag, spray paint your garage door, leave trash in your yard. No one is forced to live in an HOA neighborhood.

    Jim Hession
    Community Member
    3 years ago

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    Unknown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh waa. Don't be offended for something that has nothing to do with you

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    Rachel Ainsworth
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "land of the free" where you voluntarily agree to live somewhere that fines you for trash cans in the wrong place and grass not green enough.

    Mila Preradović
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like you don't actually OWN a house but subscribe to one🤔 nightmare...

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    Hobby Hopper
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She... didn't like her neighbor's flowers?! Why do these people sound like Disney villains?

    Dizzie D
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry USA but we have absolutely nothing like that in the U.K. and that is not freedom. You would get hysterical laughter mixed with wide eyes and a 'hell no' if anyone told anyone here to make sure their grass was greener and fine them for it. HOA's are totally bonkers. You have been duped into thinking this is even remotely acceptable. If your home and garden is not yours to do as you wish ( within reason, nobody likes a brothel next door or an extreme garbage tip) then where is your relaxed sanctuary? Being fined for doors not being the right colour or gardens not having the right flower colours....it's all a bit Stepford Wives to be honest. Yuck.

    sofacushionfort
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know there was a lot of friction in the UK when Asian and Caribbean immigrants started to arrive, but those numbers and the racist backlash was minuscule compared to the reaction in the US to the massive migration of African Americans from the US South. When the federal government prevented outright housing discrimination in 1964, the racist workaround was to form HOAs with standard designed to keep lower-income (darker-complected) buyers out. This was the original sin that created the current scam perpetrated today.

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    der sebbl
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, to get this straight: Some HOAs have the power to put MY house, that I bought with MY money on sale?

    Tuna Beach
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you owe mist ANYONE enough money, they have the power to do that

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    Yeah, okay.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You could offer me a house for dirt cheap, but if it had a HOA, I'd tell you to get the f outta here. I wouldn't touch a property with one of the for nothing. The entire point of owning a house is fixing it to what you want; otherwise you may as well rent.

    Zaza Zooey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I made sure to find a house where there were no HOAs. I'm grandfathered in now. Same with my mother and her house. Her neighborhood has since formed an HOA but she's not required to following their guidelines. They are ask her politely to participate, but she always declines, nicely of course. I have seen numerous HOA members get caught misappropriating funds and over-exerting their powers because their personal life lacks content. No thank you.

    Fenchurch
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have heard of HOAs harassing people that never joined because they assume everyone in their boundaries are automatically in it. I would go ballistic if they approached me for any reason that is none of their business.

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    JoJoB
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Man, this guy is a pro at playing the long game! Well done!

    wyngerd
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These HOA are like the European garden associations, just with waaay to much power. A fine can only be given by state authorities. Not some randomly selected homeowners. The whole system sounds like a big bad joke. Why do people put up with that?

    Jo Firth
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While I think the HOA President was out of line, it bothers me that someone wanted to foreclose on a 70-year old person's house. Revenge should have stopped at making him pay the fine and step down from the Board. OP seems as petty as the person he set out to destroy.

    Zephyr343
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I work with a lot of boards. They can be the most pretty, vindictive people you will ever meet. That little bit of power (from a volunteer position) makes them think they own the world. Homeowners that live in condos can be even worse. I had 2 contracts for over $1.7 million canceled because the homeowners didn't think they should be charged for the job. So they ran the board members off and canceled the loan. The work still needs to get done though

    Rougarou Cher
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That grass violation is really not good. Monocultural lawns are terrible. I have an HOA for the condo I live in and the monthly fee is insane. But they also for some reason think that they cannot end the year with a any savings because they don't understand that saving can be a part of a zero based budget. So they keep steadily increasing our monthly fee because, one incident for example, we had a lot of damage from a hurricane and there was nothing saved for that.

    Seabeast
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm baffled that HOAs are a thing in the USA, where "freedom" is supposedly such a big thing. I live in a condominium townhouse complex, so I expect some rules, but I'd never expect such a thing if I owned a separate freestanding house.

    Erin Geiger
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $100 says all of these HOA boards subscribe to the party of 'small government' 😂😂😂

    Stacia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why HOAs should be banned period. They are nothing but a nuisance and the fact a total stranger(s) can tell you what to do with your own property is ludicrous. Unless they are paying for my property taxes or mortgage they can F off!

    Scooter Mcgavin
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This sounds fake as hell. There are so many conveniences that just so happen to line up for their plan to work perfectly. Oh i gave an elegant speech, fine. Sure, its not that hard to get on an HOA board if you try. But two members leaving because he said they should resign? the President just so happens to owe more than he should? your friends are voted onto the board no problems? like come on.

    Sofia
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am italian and I dont understand why hoa can do that

    Rich Peall
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HOA are mafia, tell me otherwise.

    Chintan Shah
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm all for some of these sweet revenge stories and you obviously put a lot of effort into yours. No doubt you also care about your community that's why you stuck with being in the HOA for that long, so I applaud you for that. I do wish that we as a society can find ways to sway the minds of those who are mean and belittle others like that ex HOA VP/president of yours. It's far better for everyone to try to change that type of person for the better than to go to the extremes of initiating foreclosure / sale of the house. I agree they were wrong, but idk, just leaves a bad taste in my mouth for me to do something bad to them just because they did something bad to me.

    Unknown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That dude's in his late 70's, and a southerner.... He is NOT CHANGING, and definitely not going to "be changed".

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    And i was like WTF!!
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I dont get this american HOA-s. I mean, if i got some money finnaly and got myself a house, you better belive ill put whatever i want on it/around it, and no amount of old people would change my mind

    CrazyCatLady
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think HOAs shouldn’t have this much power. The only power being able to put a stop sign up somewhere because of some speeding vehicle in the neighborhood. (guess the reference lol!)

    Diego,Laura
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is genius, evil genius. Bravo!

    dv8 sm
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why be a home OWNER, if there is something like a HOA telling you where to put your trashcans and how green and weedfree your grass has to be? Thats absolutely insane, only USA or German people would go for that, I guess…

    der sebbl
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope, such things don't exist in Germany

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    Donkeywheel
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a nice fiction that happened only in the head of the writer out of anger after having been fined.

    🇳🇬 Asi Bassey 🇳🇬
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do HOAs even exist? What if I chose to abstain from one, what would be the worst thing to happen?

    Devon Archer
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can get behind this type of vengeance. Essentially the Batman of the neighborhood. Angry old dude just started this guys hero origin story..

    Seadog
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HOAs should be banned and anyone even mentioning starting one should be kicked out of the country entirely. They are nothing more than a neighborhood where a few individuals want to control everything but don't have the money to buy it all.

    TomCat
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm all against HOAS, but maliciously trying to foreclose on an elderly person is morally wrong and shameful.

    Thomas E S Thomas
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thus we see, among the Small Council, Littlefinger was the strongest. Joffrey was out of the way, as was Veris, Jamie lost his hand, and poor Tyrian had vanished without a trace.

    Mark Howell
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have you ever watched the film the dictator

    Jessica J.
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents just got the majority of people on their side, then they voted, and had the HOA disbanded. There was one guy who tried to muster support for reinstatement, but he lost, and eventually sold his house.

    LJ Robinson
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And everyone lifted you on their shoulders, the streamers and paper floated, and they cheered your name.

    Eric G
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pretty much refuse to buy a house with an HOA. This is exactly why. The people who are on the boards have nothing going on in their lives so they look for any excuse to feel "useful."

    Mickysixxx
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is madness! Is this just a bunch of nosey neighbours telling what to do in your own house? I have never heard of such a thing other than in a apartment block or similar setups. No way I'd pay any of those jerks and further more I would go and spread Round Up on all their lawns, except for the lady with the pretty flowers.

    Ace Girl
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would 100% watch this movie

    Jods
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What the OP should have done instead of reducing fines was to do away with them completely. In my very limited opinion, HOAs don’t work, really *iss people off and give board members excuses to fine residents they don’t particularly like.

    Earl Grey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “A Man Called Ove” in real life!

    third molar
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is some crazy suburban john wick s**t!!! Awesome!!

    🇳🇬 Asi Bassey 🇳🇬
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP should seriously consider a career in politics. This is brilliant and devilish politicking. I love it!!

    censorshipsucks
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have something simillar in south africa. We have a distinction between (a) freestanding cluster houses, (b) townhouses, and (c) blocks of flats. The difference is the degree to which they are physically attached. (c) is where the residence units are on top of each other and there are no private gardens. (b) is where the units might be above each other or offset or semidetached and there are private gardens on the ground floor. (a) is where the units just look similar but are otherwise free-standing. Basically a village. In all of these you get a HOA. The rules are stricter the closer you are to (c) and they are weaker the closer you are to (a). Generally when you buy into any of these three arrangements you have to agree to the HOA rules. HOWEVER, they generally only specify a few things that are reasonable, e.g. 1. No loud noise/dogs. 2. Keep the building colour the same as the others. 3. No laundry in visible range. That's about it.

    MurderMittens
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HOA boards don't get to change rules w***y-nilly without a vote of the homeowners.

    Anony Mouse
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, stories like these are ridiculous exceptions, but a lot of HOAs are very reasonable. My mother lives in a small neighborhood (less than 100 units) run by an HOA. The fees and dues make sure the parking lot is painted, plowed in the winter, and that trees are trimmed and lawns are mowed. The rules are reasonable - you can't hang a confederate flag, spray paint your garage door, leave trash in your yard. No one is forced to live in an HOA neighborhood.

    Jim Hession
    Community Member
    3 years ago

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    Unknown
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh waa. Don't be offended for something that has nothing to do with you

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