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Man Digs A Hole Of Lies While Whining About Fiancée’s Wedding Dress Online, She Leaves Him
Man Digs A Hole Of Lies While Whining About Fiancée’s Wedding Dress Online, She Leaves Him
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Man Digs A Hole Of Lies While Whining About Fiancée’s Wedding Dress Online, She Leaves Him

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There are no two ways about it, a “classic” wedding these days is going to cost a pretty penny. While opinions may differ, many people do want to commemorate their special day and are quite happy to spend whatever is necessary. However, there are always people who, if you will pardon the pun, want to have their wedding cake and eat it too.

A stingy groom demanded his fiancee get a cheaper dress when she showed him the one she wanted. Despite it coming out of her pocket, he demanded that she get a bottom-of-the-barrel cheap dress instead as he believed that their finances would be shared soon anyway.

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    But one man decided that he was entitled to make demands over his fiancee’s choice of dress

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    Organizing a wedding is a minefield even before one gets to the costs. Who is invited, what is the theme, what should the ceremony look like and other questions will often require honest communication and compromise. Both of these skills are vital for any relationship to succeed, but we all know that there are many couples who simply are not going to make it. Simply put, if both people do not know how to accommodate each other’s needs and manage their own misplaced entitlement, the relationship and marriage will probably fail.

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    And this is before one even considers the costs, which are not exactly easy to ignore. The average wedding in the United States will still set a happy couple back almost forty thousand dollars. Of course, the wedding industry is massive, so the actual events can range from a few people in a courtroom to a destination event taking place over multiple days. Overall, Americans spend over 72 billion dollars a year on getting married, putting it on par with massive industries like video games.

    OP’s story is simply a smaller-scale version of the drama that often unfolds when one party has different expectations about some part of the wedding. It is true that sometimes costs do spiral out of control and the couple needs to decide what should be cut. However, OP makes two critical errors. One, the dress he offers is insultingly cheap, particularly when they have the money and she is willing to do it all from her own pocket. Two, he makes a very entitled comment, that since they are almost married anyway, her money is basically shared now. One doesn’t have to be a genius to imagine all the other leaps in logic this man may have already made in this relationship.

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    This mismatch of expectations, which is already giving too much credit for what seems to be a case of groom entitlement, has been shown to be a toxic combination. Psychologists have found that couples that place unrealistic expectations on a wedding are more likely to have the marriage fail later down the line. Normally, this expresses itself when the scale is simply too large and bombastic, but a frugal person may also have unrealistic expectations about how much they can save. OP’s choice to save a few hundred dollars over his bride-to-be’s wishes is quite telling.

    Without a doubt, this couple would have to go through disagreements about money in the future. OP’s solution is to immediately resort to vetos, a strategy that is manipulative and short-sighted even in the cut-throat world of business. In a relationship, it’s just downright cruel. Even worse, instead of hearing her out, OP began calling her names and comparing the old tuxedo he would use to a dress from Wish. This was over a few hundred dollars, which isn’t that small of a sum, but nowhere close to the money a couple would be expected to manage in the future.

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    The fact that he believes that he is entitled to make calls about her appearance and her bank account before the vows have even been read is quite telling. Even further, he seems to sincerely believe that he is in the right, as he turned to the internet for validation, only to have it blow up in his face (see below). When presenting one side of a story to the internet, it’s pretty easy to skip details and sugarcoat certain parts. While we can applaud his honesty, it’s a sign of his entitlement that he no doubt thought he would be proclaimed as ultimately in the right. As readers can find below, that did not happen at all.

    Most readers thought he was out of line and attempted to share some advice

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    Later, a user who claimed to be the fiancee shared her side of the story

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    OP gave a few more details about the fiancee leaving in a now-deleted post in r/dating advice

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    I am a writer at Bored Panda. Despite being born in the US, I ended up spending most of my life in Europe, from Latvia, Austria, and Georgia to finally settling in Lithuania. At Bored Panda, you’ll find me covering topics ranging from the cat meme of the day to red flags in the workplace and really anything else. In my free time, I enjoy hiking, beating other people at board games, cooking, good books, and bad films.

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    Justin Sandberg

    Justin Sandberg

    Writer, BoredPanda staff

    I am a writer at Bored Panda. Despite being born in the US, I ended up spending most of my life in Europe, from Latvia, Austria, and Georgia to finally settling in Lithuania. At Bored Panda, you’ll find me covering topics ranging from the cat meme of the day to red flags in the workplace and really anything else. In my free time, I enjoy hiking, beating other people at board games, cooking, good books, and bad films.

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    CatWoman1014
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As soon as I realized there’s a 20 year age gap and seeing she’s less than 25 I see nothing but red flags. He’s a man child who wanted a “high value woman” who he can easily manipulate. The fact she’s 20 years younger and makes more money than him is another red flag. Red flags everywhere. I hope she makes the wise decision to leave him. He just wants someone he can control

    Libstak
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely and his argument that when they marry it will be "their" money without letting anyone know that she is the primary breadwinner? Top that with his lie about them each contributing 10,000 to the wedding and her seeing it and having to correct his lie because he was only asked to contribute 5,000. He knows damned well what he is, he would not lie if he thought it wasn't also then gonna be obvious to everyone else too.

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    Michelle C
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LMAO...I started laughing when he mentioned Wish!

    Jane Doe
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I found an app called Wish..." I assure OP, Wish found you.

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    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeesh. My wife and I spent $3,000 on our wedding in 2017, very very cheap for weddings for sure. Her dress was still $600 of that. Even the most frugal of the frugal understand that dresses are expensive and you're going to pay for it.

    The Dave
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. We got married very young and had a pretty budget wedding and my wife made part of my wedding outfit (she is amazing) but I made damn sure the ball was entirely in her court with the wedding dress!

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    Bart
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine having your fiancee telling you to get a wedding dress on wish... Let alone one who could be her father in age...

    Lucylastik
    Community Member
    2 years ago

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    He didn't say that though. He said it was ONE of the places and that there are thousands of cheaper dresses to be had which look identical and he's right. I've just got married in May and I could list hundreds of sites (NOT Wish) that offer couture dresses at a fraction of the price and I'm in the UK, so there must be a ton more in the States where I'm guessing this is from. Weddings are expensive. Ours cost £15,000 but I only spent a fraction of it on my dress and veil because I researched well in advance (and I'm not an off the rack size like this bride is either) so I agree with him. The dress will be worn once. HIRE ONE even... but I think personally he's dodged a bullet, not the other way around.

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    General Anaesthesia
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP: I don't want to pay for it out of our budget, it's too expensive. Emma: I'll pay for it with my own money. OP: No, because that money would be *ours* after we're married. Emma's mom: then I'll pay for it! OP: No, it's too expensive. Emma, you dodged something. It's hard to tell exactly what because the AH keeps moving the goal posts to get his own way.

    Casey McAlister
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Umm, why does the original post says they are F38 and F27, and the fiancee's post says they are M43 and F23?

    CatWoman1014
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She accused him of lying in his post. That was another lie he told apparently.

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    My “in my head” Voice
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Emma....you are so NTA. Run honey! Run far and run fast. I got married in a $75 dress from JC Penney....IN 1977! I ended up divorcing his cheap, cheating a*s. This is about control. He wants to control you and your money (which he is already counting as his money.). You know, another good question is why is a 43-year old man still working for minimum wage? There are red flags galore. Please call it off. Don't saddle yourself with this loser.

    Grace Skerp
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ".... which he is already counting as his money." Bingo. Yup. Run like the wind, Emma. Plenty of good men out there. You will find yours.

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    Ima Manimal
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That dude has absolutely no business getting married.

    Wysteria_Rose
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister tried the cheaper wedding dress. She even tried to get me to go the same route (I was lucky to find a less pricey gown, about the same price that was quoted here). So she bought it, it arrives, and guess what? It was TERRIBLE. Looked nothing like the photo, material was cheap and already coming apart, and getting it more altered for her would have completely destroyed it. There's a REASON they're cheaper.

    Christine Musal
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a massive difference between a $950 dress and a $50 dress. $950 for a wedding dress is actually pretty reasonable.

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    CatWoman1014
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As soon as I realized there’s a 20 year age gap and seeing she’s less than 25 I see nothing but red flags. He’s a man child who wanted a “high value woman” who he can easily manipulate. The fact she’s 20 years younger and makes more money than him is another red flag. Red flags everywhere. I hope she makes the wise decision to leave him. He just wants someone he can control

    Libstak
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely and his argument that when they marry it will be "their" money without letting anyone know that she is the primary breadwinner? Top that with his lie about them each contributing 10,000 to the wedding and her seeing it and having to correct his lie because he was only asked to contribute 5,000. He knows damned well what he is, he would not lie if he thought it wasn't also then gonna be obvious to everyone else too.

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    Michelle C
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LMAO...I started laughing when he mentioned Wish!

    Jane Doe
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I found an app called Wish..." I assure OP, Wish found you.

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    ConstantlyJon
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeesh. My wife and I spent $3,000 on our wedding in 2017, very very cheap for weddings for sure. Her dress was still $600 of that. Even the most frugal of the frugal understand that dresses are expensive and you're going to pay for it.

    The Dave
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. We got married very young and had a pretty budget wedding and my wife made part of my wedding outfit (she is amazing) but I made damn sure the ball was entirely in her court with the wedding dress!

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    Bart
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine having your fiancee telling you to get a wedding dress on wish... Let alone one who could be her father in age...

    Lucylastik
    Community Member
    2 years ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    He didn't say that though. He said it was ONE of the places and that there are thousands of cheaper dresses to be had which look identical and he's right. I've just got married in May and I could list hundreds of sites (NOT Wish) that offer couture dresses at a fraction of the price and I'm in the UK, so there must be a ton more in the States where I'm guessing this is from. Weddings are expensive. Ours cost £15,000 but I only spent a fraction of it on my dress and veil because I researched well in advance (and I'm not an off the rack size like this bride is either) so I agree with him. The dress will be worn once. HIRE ONE even... but I think personally he's dodged a bullet, not the other way around.

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    General Anaesthesia
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP: I don't want to pay for it out of our budget, it's too expensive. Emma: I'll pay for it with my own money. OP: No, because that money would be *ours* after we're married. Emma's mom: then I'll pay for it! OP: No, it's too expensive. Emma, you dodged something. It's hard to tell exactly what because the AH keeps moving the goal posts to get his own way.

    Casey McAlister
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Umm, why does the original post says they are F38 and F27, and the fiancee's post says they are M43 and F23?

    CatWoman1014
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She accused him of lying in his post. That was another lie he told apparently.

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    My “in my head” Voice
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Emma....you are so NTA. Run honey! Run far and run fast. I got married in a $75 dress from JC Penney....IN 1977! I ended up divorcing his cheap, cheating a*s. This is about control. He wants to control you and your money (which he is already counting as his money.). You know, another good question is why is a 43-year old man still working for minimum wage? There are red flags galore. Please call it off. Don't saddle yourself with this loser.

    Grace Skerp
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ".... which he is already counting as his money." Bingo. Yup. Run like the wind, Emma. Plenty of good men out there. You will find yours.

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    Ima Manimal
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That dude has absolutely no business getting married.

    Wysteria_Rose
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister tried the cheaper wedding dress. She even tried to get me to go the same route (I was lucky to find a less pricey gown, about the same price that was quoted here). So she bought it, it arrives, and guess what? It was TERRIBLE. Looked nothing like the photo, material was cheap and already coming apart, and getting it more altered for her would have completely destroyed it. There's a REASON they're cheaper.

    Christine Musal
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a massive difference between a $950 dress and a $50 dress. $950 for a wedding dress is actually pretty reasonable.

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