Lady Asks If She’s Unreasonable For Not Buying Grandson A Birthday Gift After He Punched Her
Writer Rhiannon Lucy Cosslett has called grandparents the invisible glue that holds together broken childcare systems. And she made a good point: one study found that 85% of UK grandparents offer some kind of support when it comes to looking after grandchildren. And so did Mumsnet user LadySmurf. So you can imagine her disappointment when she stepped up to look after her two grandkids and got into such a bad fight with one that even now, a month later, he still isn’t talking to her. Unable to confidently determine the best way to proceed, she told her story online and asked outsiders to share their opinions on the situation.
This lady was asked to take care of her grandkids, but she couldn’t stop the older one from swearing
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And their conflict led to a physical altercation
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Grandparents often don’t get the recognition they deserve when it comes to childcare
Susan Stiffelman, who is a licensed and practicing psychotherapist and marriage and family therapist, says it isn’t okay for kids to treat their grandparents with disrespect, and it’s unhealthy for them to get away with it.
To address the problem, Stiffelman offers a three-step approach:
- Synch everyone up with your expectations, but be flexible. Parents, grandparents, and kids should have a conversation where they can clearly outline — perhaps even on paper — the general expectations for everything from homework to bedtime when grandma and grandpa are in charge. They should also discuss the fact that parents expect the kids to cooperate with their grandparents and do what they’re asked without making a big fuss, even if the grandparents might do things a little differently than they do.
- Parents should make sure that the grandparents know they have permission to be more assertive with their children. Sometimes, grandparents are too soft on their grandkids because they adore them so much and want to be adored back. They can, indeed, be softer when the parents are around and in command, but in their absence, grandparents are entitled to maintain a sense of authority. Stiffelman highlights that kids need to know who is in charge.
- Grandparents have a special relationship with their grandchildren. They love to indulge, spoil, and let them get away with things that their parents don’t. And Stiffelman believes there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s part of family fun. But because of that, parents should make a conscious effort to help grandparents come up with ways to step into a more authoritative role with their children.
“Children do best when they are raised in a tribe, with healthy attachments to a number of caring adults,” the psychotherapist adds. “But it’s important that [grandparents are reminded] that it’s in their grandchildren’s best interest to treat people well — including close family.”
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The dirtbag defending the person assaulting their grandmother has to be the kid on a burner account.
Or at least someone who thinks hitting old ladies in acceptable.
Load More Replies..."A slap isnt a defense" in what world does that logic apply??? She was hit, hitting back is a very basic response to it. Not the best and most mature, but a very normal, human, violent or not. Fight flight or freeze. Without training doing one of those in response to a threat. I don't think grandma has taken any kind of self defense classes to help control that biochemical response. Her brain chose fight in response to being assaulted. Anyone saying she's violent for that is insane.
Exactly. It's the fight response. It's my something you can control. Also, need to add the fawn response in there now too.
Load More Replies...I'm not saying it's right, but if I had punched my granny my da would have kicked the absolute s**t out of me. He never laid a finger on me, but this would have definitely triggered it.
She could call police and report the assault. Too many young kids turn to violence. Get this stopped before he does something worse.
When you assault someone you assault the relationship. If you do not face consequences, show remorse, and make amends, the relationship stays battered. This child is old enough to know what he did was wrong; he has done nothing constructive to fix the damage and continues to act with hostility. Grandma giving him any sort of gift tells him that everything is fine and that he has nothing to fix. It teaches him that his victims do not have dignity and, in fact, will reward him and show him deference. He needs serious help and the family should be consistent in how they show him actions have consequences.
That boy needs serious help. If he's that prone to violent outbursts, he's going to have a record if he doesn't already. The parents need to intervene ASAP.
Have the parents done anything like put him in therapy? It’s obvious the kid has some major anger management problems
The Grandma should be pressing assault charges. If he wants to act like a delinquent, he can receive the consequences of a delinquent.
Kid needs seriously therapy. I say that as somebody who has had a lot of therapy. The reaction like "seeing a red rag" sounds like a trigger. I would guess that there's been a lot of not-great stuff in this kid's life already, and if he's like this at 14, he needs to have his path rerouted ASAP. If he carries this kind of behavior into his adult life, he's gonna end up in prison. (I have to say that I am also wary of his parents. They didn't make him apologize, which indicates not the BEST parenting skills, and it's a reasonable guess that they MAY be the ultimate cause of his emotional trauma and lashing out.)
That a 14 year old boy would punch his grandma in the stomach is beyond reprehensible. It's down right assault! As a grandparent myself, he would have been sitting bowlegged for quite some time. As far as presents, until he fully and sincerely apologizes, he's going to be on the no-gift registry until he's a grandparent himself, assuming he gets his shiit together and makes it that far.
Grandma you do not be alone with him. His parents need to get him help. Experienced at what he did to you. Be afraid very afraid
WTF did I just read???? She apologized for slapping him and wants to know if she should get him a gift??
This 14 year old punched his grandmother. The birthday gift is a red herring. This kid needs intensive professional help today. I’m willing to bet she’s not the first person he’s hit.
Communism was just a red herring. (You all know I had to!)
Load More Replies...NTA. He is 14 not 4 like someone else had commented, he should definitely know better. If one of my nephews hit me intentionally, my first call would be to their parents, and tell to come get their kid ASAP and explain what happened, as far as a present ABSOLUTELY NOT actions have consequences! Birthday or not, I'm not going to reward bad behavior especially violence! The 8 year old I might handle it different but at 14 he ABSOLUTELY should know better
If a teenager punched me, you could bet I'd be hitting back, and I'm not a violent person by any means, I've never hit anyone in my life. But if someone hit me first, all bets are off. My exbf in high school hit me in the middle of class once, just backhanded me in front of everyone during an argument, and I went after him, the only thing that stopped me was the teacher literally holding me back.
Nope. Don't need to get a gift. A card would be nice, but I wouldn't do more than that.
The kid is 14. There's no excuse for him punching his grandmother in a fit of rage.
That one time I made the gesture of spitting towards my maternal grandmother (who was a narcissist b!). My other grandma tapped on my mouth before sitting me down in private to berate me "Show some respect!" She said. I told her that I couldn't, wouldn't respect someone like her. And she told me smthg that stayed stick in my head until adulthood: "not for her. Show some respect for yourself! You will NOT behave so crass."
Anyone suggesting a gift later or any kind of apology from the grandmother must have been exposed to copious amounts of crack in utero....
If parents won't do anything about the kid punching his grandmother he'll be in juvenile detention pretty soon for hitting someone else who didn't let him get away with it.
He DESERVED the slap and a call to 911 and arrested! His parents must not care about him to let him do that to Grandma!! Disgusting and unacceptable!
Considering had he done that to a stranger or another kid charges could be filed. Hitting people is not acceptable and a proper punishment needs to be done. Not giving him a gift is a start, but he needs to understand that assaulting people have consequences.
She needs to contact CPS or whatever the organization is in her country because if he punched her then he's at risk of hurting others, he has issues that need therapy and they will help get it fast. As for his parents they are failing him by not stopping this behavior, at the very least he should have apologized to his grandmother. As for her slapping him I'm not surprised she did that, it's a natural reaction to protect yourself, you need training in order to not react like that.
Let's see...a 14YO punk SLUGS an old woman in the stomach. Said old woman instinctively SLAPS him back. And there are YOHAS saying "Ooo! You should Never hit a CHILD!" REALITY CHECK ✔️ FOLKS! This is DANGEROUS Behavior that will escalate. There is no way a grandmother can (OR SHOULD NEED TO) defend herself against a 14Yo, full functioning half grown boy. And for those Enabling Females who simper "You'ld never hit My baby again!" MAY YOU REAP DIRECTLY WHAT YOU HAVE SOW!
The grandson deserves nothing. I would never in a million years have dreamt of punching my grandma, whatever the situation, and if I had my parents would have made me wish I had never been born. I was brought up to respect my elders and their word was law, no ifs, no buts. If his behaviour is not addressed then his parents will have a future wife beater on their hands. He has already demonstrated what he is capable of.
Grandmother doesn't mention her age, however, as I understand it, assaulting a person over age 65 is a felony. I would not tolerate that kiddo who is probably a Bully in school too. He is in dire need of therapy. So are the enablers masquerading as parents.
You could add to the bail bond fund he's going to need. First off, striking your mamaw should never even cross your mind, ever. Secondly, I don't think if I had that I would be alive right now.
Those people going on how she hit the child blah blah AND?! He punched her in the stomach! I'd have punched him in the nose!
Where the hell are the parents in all this mess? If someone punches you in the stomach, I don't care who you are, feel lucky you only get a slap *and* an apology for the slap in retaliation. And if you, as parents, let the behavior go, you deserve the consequences of what's to come.
I don't waste my time or money on rabid dogs, why would I waste anything on a rabid kid?
The dirtbag defending the person assaulting their grandmother has to be the kid on a burner account.
Or at least someone who thinks hitting old ladies in acceptable.
Load More Replies..."A slap isnt a defense" in what world does that logic apply??? She was hit, hitting back is a very basic response to it. Not the best and most mature, but a very normal, human, violent or not. Fight flight or freeze. Without training doing one of those in response to a threat. I don't think grandma has taken any kind of self defense classes to help control that biochemical response. Her brain chose fight in response to being assaulted. Anyone saying she's violent for that is insane.
Exactly. It's the fight response. It's my something you can control. Also, need to add the fawn response in there now too.
Load More Replies...I'm not saying it's right, but if I had punched my granny my da would have kicked the absolute s**t out of me. He never laid a finger on me, but this would have definitely triggered it.
She could call police and report the assault. Too many young kids turn to violence. Get this stopped before he does something worse.
When you assault someone you assault the relationship. If you do not face consequences, show remorse, and make amends, the relationship stays battered. This child is old enough to know what he did was wrong; he has done nothing constructive to fix the damage and continues to act with hostility. Grandma giving him any sort of gift tells him that everything is fine and that he has nothing to fix. It teaches him that his victims do not have dignity and, in fact, will reward him and show him deference. He needs serious help and the family should be consistent in how they show him actions have consequences.
That boy needs serious help. If he's that prone to violent outbursts, he's going to have a record if he doesn't already. The parents need to intervene ASAP.
Have the parents done anything like put him in therapy? It’s obvious the kid has some major anger management problems
The Grandma should be pressing assault charges. If he wants to act like a delinquent, he can receive the consequences of a delinquent.
Kid needs seriously therapy. I say that as somebody who has had a lot of therapy. The reaction like "seeing a red rag" sounds like a trigger. I would guess that there's been a lot of not-great stuff in this kid's life already, and if he's like this at 14, he needs to have his path rerouted ASAP. If he carries this kind of behavior into his adult life, he's gonna end up in prison. (I have to say that I am also wary of his parents. They didn't make him apologize, which indicates not the BEST parenting skills, and it's a reasonable guess that they MAY be the ultimate cause of his emotional trauma and lashing out.)
That a 14 year old boy would punch his grandma in the stomach is beyond reprehensible. It's down right assault! As a grandparent myself, he would have been sitting bowlegged for quite some time. As far as presents, until he fully and sincerely apologizes, he's going to be on the no-gift registry until he's a grandparent himself, assuming he gets his shiit together and makes it that far.
Grandma you do not be alone with him. His parents need to get him help. Experienced at what he did to you. Be afraid very afraid
WTF did I just read???? She apologized for slapping him and wants to know if she should get him a gift??
This 14 year old punched his grandmother. The birthday gift is a red herring. This kid needs intensive professional help today. I’m willing to bet she’s not the first person he’s hit.
Communism was just a red herring. (You all know I had to!)
Load More Replies...NTA. He is 14 not 4 like someone else had commented, he should definitely know better. If one of my nephews hit me intentionally, my first call would be to their parents, and tell to come get their kid ASAP and explain what happened, as far as a present ABSOLUTELY NOT actions have consequences! Birthday or not, I'm not going to reward bad behavior especially violence! The 8 year old I might handle it different but at 14 he ABSOLUTELY should know better
If a teenager punched me, you could bet I'd be hitting back, and I'm not a violent person by any means, I've never hit anyone in my life. But if someone hit me first, all bets are off. My exbf in high school hit me in the middle of class once, just backhanded me in front of everyone during an argument, and I went after him, the only thing that stopped me was the teacher literally holding me back.
Nope. Don't need to get a gift. A card would be nice, but I wouldn't do more than that.
The kid is 14. There's no excuse for him punching his grandmother in a fit of rage.
That one time I made the gesture of spitting towards my maternal grandmother (who was a narcissist b!). My other grandma tapped on my mouth before sitting me down in private to berate me "Show some respect!" She said. I told her that I couldn't, wouldn't respect someone like her. And she told me smthg that stayed stick in my head until adulthood: "not for her. Show some respect for yourself! You will NOT behave so crass."
Anyone suggesting a gift later or any kind of apology from the grandmother must have been exposed to copious amounts of crack in utero....
If parents won't do anything about the kid punching his grandmother he'll be in juvenile detention pretty soon for hitting someone else who didn't let him get away with it.
He DESERVED the slap and a call to 911 and arrested! His parents must not care about him to let him do that to Grandma!! Disgusting and unacceptable!
Considering had he done that to a stranger or another kid charges could be filed. Hitting people is not acceptable and a proper punishment needs to be done. Not giving him a gift is a start, but he needs to understand that assaulting people have consequences.
She needs to contact CPS or whatever the organization is in her country because if he punched her then he's at risk of hurting others, he has issues that need therapy and they will help get it fast. As for his parents they are failing him by not stopping this behavior, at the very least he should have apologized to his grandmother. As for her slapping him I'm not surprised she did that, it's a natural reaction to protect yourself, you need training in order to not react like that.
Let's see...a 14YO punk SLUGS an old woman in the stomach. Said old woman instinctively SLAPS him back. And there are YOHAS saying "Ooo! You should Never hit a CHILD!" REALITY CHECK ✔️ FOLKS! This is DANGEROUS Behavior that will escalate. There is no way a grandmother can (OR SHOULD NEED TO) defend herself against a 14Yo, full functioning half grown boy. And for those Enabling Females who simper "You'ld never hit My baby again!" MAY YOU REAP DIRECTLY WHAT YOU HAVE SOW!
The grandson deserves nothing. I would never in a million years have dreamt of punching my grandma, whatever the situation, and if I had my parents would have made me wish I had never been born. I was brought up to respect my elders and their word was law, no ifs, no buts. If his behaviour is not addressed then his parents will have a future wife beater on their hands. He has already demonstrated what he is capable of.
Grandmother doesn't mention her age, however, as I understand it, assaulting a person over age 65 is a felony. I would not tolerate that kiddo who is probably a Bully in school too. He is in dire need of therapy. So are the enablers masquerading as parents.
You could add to the bail bond fund he's going to need. First off, striking your mamaw should never even cross your mind, ever. Secondly, I don't think if I had that I would be alive right now.
Those people going on how she hit the child blah blah AND?! He punched her in the stomach! I'd have punched him in the nose!
Where the hell are the parents in all this mess? If someone punches you in the stomach, I don't care who you are, feel lucky you only get a slap *and* an apology for the slap in retaliation. And if you, as parents, let the behavior go, you deserve the consequences of what's to come.
I don't waste my time or money on rabid dogs, why would I waste anything on a rabid kid?























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