A common question many couples hear all the time is, “So, how did you two meet?” And usually, the answer is something cute or wholesome. Well, one guy thought that was the case with his fiancée too.
But her recent confession about how they actually started dating shocked him, and now he’s creeped out by her. He took to Reddit to ask what he should do next, and even the internet was divided. Read the full story below.
The guy thought his relationship with his fiancée was pretty normal
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But after her confession about how they actually started dating, he’s now questioning everything he thought he knew about her
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Going to extreme lengths for someone you love has always been romanticized in fiction, but in real life it can feel very different
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Many of us probably enjoy stories where characters are so infatuated with someone that they go to extreme lengths just to be with them, and we find it incredibly romantic.
Think about Tim in About Time, who used time travel to perfect every interaction with the woman he loved. Or Edward in Twilight, who snuck into Bella’s room to watch her sleep before they were even together. And Ariel in The Little Mermaid, who got so obsessed with Prince Eric that she gave up her voice and grew legs just to be near a guy she saw once from a distance.
We applaud the dedication and sometimes even wish someone would go that far for us. But part of the reason we feel that way is because it’s fictional. If someone actually did any of this in real life, it would be a very different experience. Which begs the question, where exactly is the line between romantic and just plain creepy?
The man in this story is trying to figure that out himself. He learned that his fiancée had spent months studying his routine and deliberately showing up wherever he went. She even pretended to lose her phone just to get him to call her number and have a reason to be around him.
She didn’t see a problem with any of it. The man, however, was left feeling very uneasy about the whole thing. And readers were just as divided. Some felt it was a massive red flag that shouldn’t be ignored. Others thought it really wasn’t that deep.
Where exactly does love end and stalking begin?
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To get a better sense of whether something like this counts as love or stalking, let’s look at what professionals have to say.
The Stalking Prevention, Awareness, and Resource Center (SPARC) defines stalking as a pattern of behavior that causes fear for one’s safety or leads to significant emotional distress. That can include things like following someone in public or repeatedly showing up where they don’t expect you. By that definition, what this woman did would technically qualify.
Another thing to consider is the motivation behind someone’s actions and how they carry them out. Daisy Warner, writing for Medical News Today, explains that both love and stalking can involve being persistent with someone and knowing a lot of their personal information, like their routines or where they live.
But when two people love each other, all of that is mutual. You share that information willingly and the feelings go both ways.
Stalking, on the other hand, is a form of taking power and control. A person might seek out someone’s personal information without their knowledge and pursue them without any reciprocation.
The attachment isn’t built on genuine care for the other person. It comes from an unhealthy fixation, and the person on the receiving end often has no idea it’s even happening.
That doesn’t stop a lot of people from doing it, though. Nowadays, many consider some forms of stalking to be completely harmless. According to one survey, 64% of people admit to cyber-stalking a potential partner before a first date. And 24% don’t even hide it, openly telling their date that they looked them up beforehand.
In these situations, people really have to consider how they feel. If someone’s behavior makes them uncomfortable or unsafe, they shouldn’t minimize those emotions out of fear of overreacting.
For anyone who genuinely believes they’re being stalked, the One Love Foundation recommends documenting the behavior and sharing what’s happening with people you trust. They also suggest reaching out to support organizations or law enforcement.
What do you think? Did this woman cross the line, or was it just a creative way of shooting her shot? Share your thoughts in the comments.
The man later shared more details in the comments
Some readers agreed that the stalking was creepy and weird, and felt he had every right to be uncomfortable
Others, however, thought it was innocent enough and said he might be overreacting
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I'm with CantalouCantaloupe. If you're interested, you ask him out. None of this "it's the guy's job to make the first move"-BS anymore please. It's 2026 ffs, not 1966.
This is pretty creepy but my biggest issues is her minimizing OP's feelings about it and refusing to go to therapy. If it's "not a big deal" and you feel you did nothing wrong, as well as genuinely cared about your partner, why wouldn't you do to therapy (or do whatever was reasonble to assure them)?
Disgusting. Gender flip this and the male stalker would be doxed or worse.
I'm too desensitized to find this as horrible as some of the other commenters, no harm done
Not directed at you personally, but if the genders were reversed (guy learning gurl's schedule and following her around) I'm not sure many people would agree it is harmless.
Load More Replies...I am incensed by the people saying this may not be normal but no harm no foul?absolutely not. i have never done anything like this to initiate contact with a man i have been attracted to and if a man did this to me and i found out after the fact ? it would be over right then
It's a brave new world people, and the cringe line between showing interest and stalking has changed dramatically. If you like someone and want to pursue the acquaintance, you ask them out. If they say the are not interested, you retreat. But tracking down their schedule, showing up somewhere and waiting to entrap them.....that's really creepy. (If you disagree, just reverse the genders in the story above and recalculate.)
"She's the female version of Joe Goldberg from You on Netflix. That would creep me out too." This is exactly what I was thinking.
If a guy did this to a woman, it'd be looked at in a much harsher light. It's icky. She should have just asked him out.
If I were OP, I'd also be creeped out. I would have figured out she was stalking me or being *too* always there which it looks like he never did. I got it just from reading his post. Way too much "coincidence" for me.
Like... I have to admit that, if this happened to me, I'd be first and foremost flattered that some woman was willing to go such lengths because... y'know, I'm just me. On the other hand, I can totally see where the guy is coming from. Extremely hard to tell whether she's just read one too many booktok romances or if there's something more sinister going on there.
There's a difference between manipulating your schedule to "accidentally" bump into someone and hiding your phone to wander around a possibly lowly populated area.
I would say it is an unusual and maybe slightly dubious way to start a relationship. Why not just ask him out for a coffee? For the future, I'd say it depends on the relationship - has she been totally honest on everything else? Are there times she has lied because it is more convenient for her? Bottom line, go with the gut - if you feel good about the relationship and this doesn't tarnish that, go for it. Can you trust this woman? If not, break up. If in three years you are not confident you can trust someone, you shouldn't be with them.
If women are equal then you have to abide by the reversed genders situation. She had better do everything else the old fashioned way if thats the reasoning you're gonna use.
If this was a guy doing this the authorities would be involved. The fact it's being treated as cute because it's a woman who is doing the stalking is gross 🤢 And I say that as a woman
Words are fallible and people are stupid. She says stalking but it's not, it's just what people did before the internet, try to find ways to meet up, cross paths, strike a conversation. Is it old fashioned to wait for the guy to ask? Yes. Stalking? Does not rise to the level of. Find stories about real stalkers to compare.
She could have just asked him out when he went over for a burger. Knocked on his door when she was visiting her sister. Left a old fashioned paper invitation in his door. Instead she chose to follow him around? Why? If she was 13 I might get it but this is a grown woman. It's weird
Load More Replies...She chased the guy she liked and created opportunities to get to know him. It’s fine. It’s only a problem if he rejected her and she refused to accept the rejection.
And if the situation were reversed. There would be restraining orders involved.
Load More Replies...I'm with CantalouCantaloupe. If you're interested, you ask him out. None of this "it's the guy's job to make the first move"-BS anymore please. It's 2026 ffs, not 1966.
This is pretty creepy but my biggest issues is her minimizing OP's feelings about it and refusing to go to therapy. If it's "not a big deal" and you feel you did nothing wrong, as well as genuinely cared about your partner, why wouldn't you do to therapy (or do whatever was reasonble to assure them)?
Disgusting. Gender flip this and the male stalker would be doxed or worse.
I'm too desensitized to find this as horrible as some of the other commenters, no harm done
Not directed at you personally, but if the genders were reversed (guy learning gurl's schedule and following her around) I'm not sure many people would agree it is harmless.
Load More Replies...I am incensed by the people saying this may not be normal but no harm no foul?absolutely not. i have never done anything like this to initiate contact with a man i have been attracted to and if a man did this to me and i found out after the fact ? it would be over right then
It's a brave new world people, and the cringe line between showing interest and stalking has changed dramatically. If you like someone and want to pursue the acquaintance, you ask them out. If they say the are not interested, you retreat. But tracking down their schedule, showing up somewhere and waiting to entrap them.....that's really creepy. (If you disagree, just reverse the genders in the story above and recalculate.)
"She's the female version of Joe Goldberg from You on Netflix. That would creep me out too." This is exactly what I was thinking.
If a guy did this to a woman, it'd be looked at in a much harsher light. It's icky. She should have just asked him out.
If I were OP, I'd also be creeped out. I would have figured out she was stalking me or being *too* always there which it looks like he never did. I got it just from reading his post. Way too much "coincidence" for me.
Like... I have to admit that, if this happened to me, I'd be first and foremost flattered that some woman was willing to go such lengths because... y'know, I'm just me. On the other hand, I can totally see where the guy is coming from. Extremely hard to tell whether she's just read one too many booktok romances or if there's something more sinister going on there.
There's a difference between manipulating your schedule to "accidentally" bump into someone and hiding your phone to wander around a possibly lowly populated area.
I would say it is an unusual and maybe slightly dubious way to start a relationship. Why not just ask him out for a coffee? For the future, I'd say it depends on the relationship - has she been totally honest on everything else? Are there times she has lied because it is more convenient for her? Bottom line, go with the gut - if you feel good about the relationship and this doesn't tarnish that, go for it. Can you trust this woman? If not, break up. If in three years you are not confident you can trust someone, you shouldn't be with them.
If women are equal then you have to abide by the reversed genders situation. She had better do everything else the old fashioned way if thats the reasoning you're gonna use.
If this was a guy doing this the authorities would be involved. The fact it's being treated as cute because it's a woman who is doing the stalking is gross 🤢 And I say that as a woman
Words are fallible and people are stupid. She says stalking but it's not, it's just what people did before the internet, try to find ways to meet up, cross paths, strike a conversation. Is it old fashioned to wait for the guy to ask? Yes. Stalking? Does not rise to the level of. Find stories about real stalkers to compare.
She could have just asked him out when he went over for a burger. Knocked on his door when she was visiting her sister. Left a old fashioned paper invitation in his door. Instead she chose to follow him around? Why? If she was 13 I might get it but this is a grown woman. It's weird
Load More Replies...She chased the guy she liked and created opportunities to get to know him. It’s fine. It’s only a problem if he rejected her and she refused to accept the rejection.
And if the situation were reversed. There would be restraining orders involved.
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