Son Expects He Can Freeload Off His Parents After Moving Back In With Them – Flips Out When Dad Introduces Some New Rules
“As long as you live under my roof, you live according to my rules.” This cliche, often said by parents in movies and on TV, sounds fair and decent overall, doesn’t it? After all, if you don’t pay for rent or utilities, the very least you could do would be to do some chores and listen to your parents about what they’d prefer you (not) to do at home. (As long as they’re being objectively reasonable, of course.)
Redditor ChrisThrow367 shared a pickle of a story with the AITA community about how his 23-year-old son, Chris, moved back home after graduating college. According to the dad, his son doesn’t pitch in around the house and mooches off his parents. So the dad, the sole breadwinner for the entire family, decided to take matters into his own hands and set some ground rules. Unfortunately, they caused Chris to ‘flip out’ and sparked a lot of family drama.
You can read the redditor’s full story below, dear Pandas. When you’re done, let us know what you thought of the entire situation. Who do you think was right in this case? What did you think of the dad’s rules? Do you think that Chris should have been more proactive about finding some way to contribute to the family? Share your thoughts in the comment section at the bottom of the post.
Certified relationship and self-love coach Alex Scot talked to Bored Panda about the importance of positive reinforcement, compassion, and leading by example. You’ll find the full in-depth interview with the expert below.
Family drama ensued after a recent college graduate moved back in with his parents and had a problem with his dad setting out some rules for him
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Relationship coach Alex told Bored Panda that she suggests positive reinforcement for even the slightest steps in the right direction when it comes to encouraging our kids to become more responsible. “For example, if you want the child to become better at picking up after themselves and you happen to catch them putting their plate in the sink or taking their laundry from the floor to the laundry room, give them some praise, ‘Thank you for putting your plate in the sink!'” she said that small bits of praise count for a lot.
However, thanking them isn’t enough. Parents need to set a positive example with their own actions. “It’s also important to note that children will do what you demonstrate to them more often than what you tell them to do. So leading by example is very important and that stems to things like taking responsibility, apologizing, and even healthy habits like nutrition and working out. If it’s an adult child, lean on setting boundaries and expectations, but keep in mind that positive reinforcement and demonstrating to them what you’d like is still applicable.”
According to Alex, whether or not an adult child moving back home will put a lot of stress on a couple depends entirely on their relationship with each other and with the child. It’s all relative! (Pun not intended, we assure you.)
“The best way to set yourselves up for success is to have an honest conversation prior to the adult child moving back in to set expectations, boundaries, and air out any concerns that may need to be compromised on,” Alex explained that it’s vital that everyone be on the same page. Clarity is essential. “The more specific the better. This way both the couple and the adult child are on the same page and there are no surprises once the move-in has happened.”
Alex also offered her insights about why some young adults might shy away from responsibilities that, to many, might seem very simple. According to the relationship coach, these individuals might be feeling overwhelmed or might even have undiagnosed disorders like ADHD. This can leave adult children “almost paralyzed when it comes to basic tasks like washing the dishes.” If you suspect this might be the case, it’s best to approach your child with compassion and talk to them about what they’re experiencing.
“‘Honey, I’ve noticed that some tasks like laundry or dishes are tasks that you avoid. Could you tell me what you’re feeling or thinking when those tasks come up?'” Alex suggested a potential way to approach the situation. “From there, empathize with them and if it aligns with symptoms of any sort take them to get diagnosed. Many adults are struggling with undiagnosed ADHD (and other disorders that present similarly) and they experience a lot of shame and frustration around why they can’t seem to self-motivate to do these types of things, and if you approach them with harsh words like, ‘You’re an adult, these are things everyone needs to do. Grow up!’ It will only cause more shame, self-loathing, and more overwhelm as those tasks pop up.”
Alex also noted that some young adults might not have enough life experience living independently, so it simply doesn’t pop up in their minds to help out their family with household chores and other tasks. “Another possibility is that if they have not gone out on their own yet and lived alone or with roommates, that could also be why they aren’t taking the initiative to assist around the house. It simply doesn’t occur to them because it hasn’t had to occur to them in the past. Bringing it up to their awareness in a non-combative way, and being clear with what their additional new responsibilities are is the way to go here.”
Most redditors thought that the dad did nothing wrong. Here’s what they had to say
The essence of the argument in the redditor’s family seems to be about finding the right balance between Chris’ independence and everyone else’s support of him. Nobody’s denying that life is rough right now: the Covid-19 pandemic has turned the renting and employment game on its head.
Paying rising rent rates is a challenge for many Americans and Europeans. Meanwhile, finding a job can be difficult depending on what your university major is and what experience you have. Some industries weren’t as resilient to the pandemic as others.
Personally (and don’t let my opinion affect yours), I believe that Chris isn’t entirely to blame for moving back home. The world’s still a mess and it can be hard to find your footing. Let’s face it, most of us have been in similar situations where we desperately need a helping hand from our family and friends. At least, temporarily.
However, at the same time, I also believe it’s incredibly important to be proactive about creating a firm foundation for your life: getting a job, doing basic chores, helping around the house, and offering your support to your own family as much as they’ve supported you. Getting everything handed to you on a silver platter might be comfortable, however, forging your own metaphorical platter shows independence, ambition, and grit. It’s possible to flourish even during the hardest of times.
Though when you look at the rates at which rent is rising, you won’t be surprised that Chris and many young adults like him are asking their parents whether they could move back into their old rooms.
According to USA Today, some cities are seeing jaw-dropping increases in rent prices. For instance, in Boise, Idaho, rent prices have gone up by a whopping 39 percent since March 2020. Yes, Pandas, you read that right: 39 friggin’ percent. It’s horrifying!
The median rent in the US has increased by 11.4 percent in 2021. Compare that to an average of 3.3 percent rent growth in the pre-pandemic years from 2017 to 2019. Meanwhile, rent prices are up 10.3 percent right now compared to late August of last year.
Most redditors were on the original poster’s side, saying that what the dad did was right. Or, as redditor Acheesement so eloquently and sarcastically summed the situation up: “I’m an adult, don’t treat me like a child. That being said, please buy all my food, clean up after me, and make me whatever food I want while I watch Netflix because I’m your special boy.”
However, not everyone was on the same page. Some redditors shared their opinions about how the dad’s rules were more about ‘punishing’ his son rather than helping him stand on his own two feet. But what do you think, dear Readers? We can’t wait to see what you make of all this drama.
However, some redditors had a different opinion about how the entire situation was handled
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Share on FacebookI moved back in with my parents and I had to pay rent. Half of my welfare money as I had lost my job. I also had to do my fair share of the chores, tidying up cleaning in general as well as be wholly responsible for ALL my own laundry. Also if I wanted any extras that were just for me, I had to pay for them myself. The money I gave my parents were for my share of the mortgage and other bills. What I got in return was the ability to live in a nice house and and be sure of a decent meal 3 times a day and running water and electricity, things you take for granted when you do live at home, but don't realise how much they cost when you're living by yourself. Nothing is free in this world and if I was living on my own I would have to have paid for them so why not when I am at home. If I am an adult and expect to be treated as one then I should act as one, and the first thing a person has to do as as adult is pay their way and do their share. Welcome to the real world.
Ever notice how every reddit post is so well written? Long and descriptive without any real specifics. Usually about some wildly overblown reaction to a situation everybody encounters. All leading up to the author asking strangers on the internet for advice. One might think these posts are all made up.
People on reddit know theyre fake. But Ive been to rich peoples houses with maids and the childrens bedroom doors had rules posted on them letting them know the maid doesnt do their laundry or cleaning of their rooms. Keeping them from being useless and lazy like this kid
Load More Replies...His wife is an enabler for the son. She is creating a spoiled, selfish, lazy narcissist which will be unleashed on poor unsuspecting women he dates. You ever wonder about those horrific men who expect women to just give them everything like a doormat and he gives her nothing back? Look at the mother, she created him. This is a pattern. (woman saying this)
My second wife (don't judge me) did the same thing to our (her) son. Him in her life, kept her from suicide. In return, she gave him a free pass for life to all things legal and illegal.
Load More Replies...Everyone is upset about the wifi limit but ffs it was 6 hours a day!!!! If you can't look for a job and apply to the ones you find in less than 6 hours a day you need to work on your capacity to concentrate and prioritize (which is the whole point of the rules for this guy). That's half his waking life he was spending online, while not doing dishes or picking his crap up or working a part time job or anything else to help out around the house.
Agreed, wifi isn't oxygen - I kind of get the impression it's not about the wifi exactly but about stopping him just pissing about on the Internet all day.
Load More Replies..."Not a child anymore" ... then calls for his mom. Of course he should contribute, if not in cash then in taking part in shred work around the house....
"Mommy mommy, daddy says i'm no grownup! He's mean!'
Load More Replies...You're definitely the bigger asshole. Asking him to clean up after himself and do his own laundry is totally reasonable. Suggesting that Netflix (which is like $12 a month) is lavish and piling on rules designed to humiliate him is not. Also, 4 months is not that long after graduating from college. Seriously, why did you have kids if you are going to view them as a burden?
When I had kids I knew they were going to be a burden because it takes a while for humans to function independently. And I was fine with that. Even enjoyed helping them learn to become independently functioning adults. But a 23-year-old is not a kid. It's time to grow up, and if he's resisting that, it's time to increase the pressure.
Load More Replies...NTA, but I agree with several of the comments that the father and mother should have been on the same page to start with. Also, the kid needs to help out around the house. He does need to have rules, but not the exact same ones as his much younger sister.
I get the impression that mum and dad were never going to be on the same page. They were on different books BEFORE dad came up with the rules.
Load More Replies...I mean, are there extra circumstances? Is the kid in a field that hasn't bounced back from the pandemic? Like, does he do tech for major conventions? Pyrotechnics for large gatherings? Does he have some sort of medical condition that rules him out for working at a grocery store or supply warehouse? If so, dad crossed a line. But if the kid has a "general studies" degree and is just sitting around waiting to decide what to do with his life, *someone* needs to give him a nudge.
You are right, we need to know more about the circumstances. The son might even have adhd or might be depressed or simply needs more time to unwind after college. 4 months is no time at all when you're on a crossroads in your life. And why do they want him to flip burgers or similar? Once you get any job, it's much harder to find a new one. I know from my own experience that you can get stuck in a low paid job with a degree. Sometimes it's better to wait longer and get on your relevant career path. On the other hand, contributing to the house chores should be a must. And I'm pretty sure both parents contributed to the sons character, it's their fault if he was given everything for free as he was growing up. I wander if the dad even tried to ask him nicely first and explain to him WHY it's important he contributes. Some kids have no clue how much it costs to run a household or how much time it takes up.
Load More Replies...The dad does him no favors by treating him like a child. Tell his son he expect his son to conduct himself like an adult, including paying a sum of money for rent. It can just be a token amount, but something to drive home that son is no longer a dependent and will not be treated like one. Go so far as to partition your food away from his, so that unless he is invited to eat at dinner, he is expected to provide for himself. Get him a mini fridge/freezer if you have to.
phht I left home immediately at 18 and still went home for food
Load More Replies...I moved back in with my parents and I had to pay rent. Half of my welfare money as I had lost my job. I also had to do my fair share of the chores, tidying up cleaning in general as well as be wholly responsible for ALL my own laundry. Also if I wanted any extras that were just for me, I had to pay for them myself. The money I gave my parents were for my share of the mortgage and other bills. What I got in return was the ability to live in a nice house and and be sure of a decent meal 3 times a day and running water and electricity, things you take for granted when you do live at home, but don't realise how much they cost when you're living by yourself. Nothing is free in this world and if I was living on my own I would have to have paid for them so why not when I am at home. If I am an adult and expect to be treated as one then I should act as one, and the first thing a person has to do as as adult is pay their way and do their share. Welcome to the real world.
Ever notice how every reddit post is so well written? Long and descriptive without any real specifics. Usually about some wildly overblown reaction to a situation everybody encounters. All leading up to the author asking strangers on the internet for advice. One might think these posts are all made up.
People on reddit know theyre fake. But Ive been to rich peoples houses with maids and the childrens bedroom doors had rules posted on them letting them know the maid doesnt do their laundry or cleaning of their rooms. Keeping them from being useless and lazy like this kid
Load More Replies...His wife is an enabler for the son. She is creating a spoiled, selfish, lazy narcissist which will be unleashed on poor unsuspecting women he dates. You ever wonder about those horrific men who expect women to just give them everything like a doormat and he gives her nothing back? Look at the mother, she created him. This is a pattern. (woman saying this)
My second wife (don't judge me) did the same thing to our (her) son. Him in her life, kept her from suicide. In return, she gave him a free pass for life to all things legal and illegal.
Load More Replies...Everyone is upset about the wifi limit but ffs it was 6 hours a day!!!! If you can't look for a job and apply to the ones you find in less than 6 hours a day you need to work on your capacity to concentrate and prioritize (which is the whole point of the rules for this guy). That's half his waking life he was spending online, while not doing dishes or picking his crap up or working a part time job or anything else to help out around the house.
Agreed, wifi isn't oxygen - I kind of get the impression it's not about the wifi exactly but about stopping him just pissing about on the Internet all day.
Load More Replies..."Not a child anymore" ... then calls for his mom. Of course he should contribute, if not in cash then in taking part in shred work around the house....
"Mommy mommy, daddy says i'm no grownup! He's mean!'
Load More Replies...You're definitely the bigger asshole. Asking him to clean up after himself and do his own laundry is totally reasonable. Suggesting that Netflix (which is like $12 a month) is lavish and piling on rules designed to humiliate him is not. Also, 4 months is not that long after graduating from college. Seriously, why did you have kids if you are going to view them as a burden?
When I had kids I knew they were going to be a burden because it takes a while for humans to function independently. And I was fine with that. Even enjoyed helping them learn to become independently functioning adults. But a 23-year-old is not a kid. It's time to grow up, and if he's resisting that, it's time to increase the pressure.
Load More Replies...NTA, but I agree with several of the comments that the father and mother should have been on the same page to start with. Also, the kid needs to help out around the house. He does need to have rules, but not the exact same ones as his much younger sister.
I get the impression that mum and dad were never going to be on the same page. They were on different books BEFORE dad came up with the rules.
Load More Replies...I mean, are there extra circumstances? Is the kid in a field that hasn't bounced back from the pandemic? Like, does he do tech for major conventions? Pyrotechnics for large gatherings? Does he have some sort of medical condition that rules him out for working at a grocery store or supply warehouse? If so, dad crossed a line. But if the kid has a "general studies" degree and is just sitting around waiting to decide what to do with his life, *someone* needs to give him a nudge.
You are right, we need to know more about the circumstances. The son might even have adhd or might be depressed or simply needs more time to unwind after college. 4 months is no time at all when you're on a crossroads in your life. And why do they want him to flip burgers or similar? Once you get any job, it's much harder to find a new one. I know from my own experience that you can get stuck in a low paid job with a degree. Sometimes it's better to wait longer and get on your relevant career path. On the other hand, contributing to the house chores should be a must. And I'm pretty sure both parents contributed to the sons character, it's their fault if he was given everything for free as he was growing up. I wander if the dad even tried to ask him nicely first and explain to him WHY it's important he contributes. Some kids have no clue how much it costs to run a household or how much time it takes up.
Load More Replies...The dad does him no favors by treating him like a child. Tell his son he expect his son to conduct himself like an adult, including paying a sum of money for rent. It can just be a token amount, but something to drive home that son is no longer a dependent and will not be treated like one. Go so far as to partition your food away from his, so that unless he is invited to eat at dinner, he is expected to provide for himself. Get him a mini fridge/freezer if you have to.
phht I left home immediately at 18 and still went home for food
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