Pro-Vegan Guy Attacks iPhone Case Makers For Killing Animals To Make Cases, And Company’s Reply Goes Viral
Leather is the material. It’s used to make clothing, footwear, furniture, automobile seats, you name it. However, while the earliest record of leather artifacts date back to at least 2200 BC, a lot of today’s consumers have boycotted goods made from this material for an ethical reason. Killing animals. A good example of this is a recent comment one man left under a video about the making-of of a leather iPhone case.
The video was released by Saddleback Leather, a company that claims their products are 100% leather, as opposed to the other iPhone cases that are usually about 80% plastic and only 20% leather. The company responded to the criticism, pointing out that the material they use is only a by-product of other industries and there are much bigger problems in the smartphone-making business.
According to the United Nations, “the leather and leather products industry plays a prominent role in the world’s economy, with an estimated global trade value of approximately US$100 billion per year.”
“World population grew dramatically in the 20th century and it continues to grow at present. This growing population and the general increase in wealth have led to increases in the demand for meat, which in turn have kept the supply of leather raw material fairly constant.” In fact, so constant that, the raw material supplies for the leather industry reflected population growth throughout the whole 20th century. Also, “the ratio of cattle populations (by far the primary source of leather raw material) and leather produced to the size of human populations has remained remarkably steady for the last one hundred years.” The United Nations claims that, “the leather industry relies on by-products of the meat and dairy industries for over 95% of its raw materials.”
Scroll down to check out the emotional exchange and let us know your thoughts about this topic in the comments.
Recently, a man criticised Saddleback Leather for making leather iPhone case, thus supporting animal abuse
Image credits: Saddleback Leather
Some people support the company
While others claim that their business in unethical
What do you think?
Regardless of moral high ground, the leather company had the more rational comment. But they both kinda ended up calling each other hypocrites. And you know, they both are hypocrites. Aren't we all if we're honest with ourselves?
The truth in this comment is bloody refreshing. Thank you!
Agreed, and the truth is that while not all leather is byproduct, a lot of it is.
You're right. We have so many products that were made in China and it's likely a child made it or someone who gets 15 cents an hour did which is basically slave labor.
That's a perfect analysis. Thank you.
The starbuck philosopher strike again... You can't be hypocrite if you know where leather come from and it's OK with you. Pets cause way more animals being killed than cows used for a purpose, but nobody on the vegan side really care, because they love pet, it give them something.
Where’s the hypocrisy from the company? I don’t see it.
Maybe, but what's the alternative? Retiring to some backwood where we wouldn't need anything from the world? Before long the world would catch up with us. At the rate natural forests are cut down, we wouldn't be hermits for very long.
So “but this person / company is worse” is more rational than someone choosing not to buy a product? What’s the hypocrisy anyway?
Help save the animals. Make iPhone cases from vegans.
Now that's funny.
Knowing my luck, I'd end up having a case made from some dude's ball sack.
HA!
HA!
Now everyone's looking at me because I burst out laughing in class. Joe, you've done good.
Coming soon to Kickstarter. 100% vegan leather smartphone cases. Made 100% from vegans!
But what on earth would we do with the rest of the vegan?
Vegan fertiliser for my vegan grown tomato plants.
Augury? (Sorry, this is what happens when I'm up past midnight)
soylent green
Market it as 100% vegan meat. An alternative to pork. Humans apparently taste like pork because of their varied diets. Oh! Vegans might taste more like those pigs raised on acorns... Iberico ham. Yeah, maybe vegans have a nutty flavor. Lol!
Save humanity too. It would be nice to never have to hear how they are going to live to be 100 years old because they are vegan.
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Why are you so mad?
So...what would he use? Plastic? Ok. Plastic is made from petroleum, which is an environmental disaster on a whole bunch of fronts, from destroying habitats, to smoke belching factories and when it wears out (a LOT faster than leather does) it ends up in landfills where it will be for eternity, since it NEVER breaks down. ...///... How about cotton? Ok. Cotton is grown in heavily irrigated areas in depleted soil that requires millions of tons of petroleum based fertilizers and chemical insecticides. It must be processed in the aforementioned smoke-belching factories and assembled in even more factories, but that happens overseas so the self-righteous don't have to look at it. ...///... Leather is readily available, easily processed, and when you're done with it, it decomposes easily.
I was at a dinner once were a vegetarian was roast by a vegan cause she was a "hypocrite", "fake friend of animal" as she was using butter, milk or eggs and this is animal slavery. ( We, omnivorous, were never target) All the products this vegan girl brought to the dinner to replace or "monstruous products" were made with palm oil....
Sarah Thank you and everyone who thinks like you do so much for it. I'm still far away from being able to completely give up even meat, let alone every product that has something to do with animals, but I do try to eat less meat and choose the option with less impact when I know which one it is. I can't help but feel that people who go the 100% or nothing route are actually not worried about animals at all and just want to feel good about how morally superior they are. If they were really concerned, indeed every small step is a step.
Head desk
Thank you! I was thinking exactly the same about plastic...vegans seem to be oblivious to how that's worked out
I would have thought it was a no-brainer, and I want to smack people who say that their "vegan" shoes are somehow superior...because buying shoes that fall apart in a year are somehow comparable to my 20-year-old (and looking like new, thank you shoe guy) cowhide loafers? Nope. A whole world of no.
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No, they don’t.
Mr. Vegan would make a cover from discarded paper plates.
I have heard of vegan leathers being made from cork, pineapple, and coconut. Those products have less impact on the environment that petroleum products.
They're not leather.
There may exist 'vegan leather substitutes' but "vegan leather" is an oxymoron
Omnis got uncomfortable so you got downvotes.
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No, they really don't. Where do you think those things get processed? Lemme see...could it be big petroleum burning, air polluting, groundwater poisoning factories? Why yes. YES they are.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
Veganism has nothing to do with landfills or pollution though.
Yes. It is. It's about filling landfills with non-recyclable petroleum products and pretending that your virtuous about it. You CHOOSE to destroy massive amounts of the planet with your garbage.
Vetan leather is garbage waiting to happen. Don’t kid yourself. If more vegans worked harder for humane industrial animal husbandty instead of demonizing everyone, they would have less high ground to stand on.
Regardless of moral high ground, the leather company had the more rational comment. But they both kinda ended up calling each other hypocrites. And you know, they both are hypocrites. Aren't we all if we're honest with ourselves?
The truth in this comment is bloody refreshing. Thank you!
Agreed, and the truth is that while not all leather is byproduct, a lot of it is.
You're right. We have so many products that were made in China and it's likely a child made it or someone who gets 15 cents an hour did which is basically slave labor.
That's a perfect analysis. Thank you.
The starbuck philosopher strike again... You can't be hypocrite if you know where leather come from and it's OK with you. Pets cause way more animals being killed than cows used for a purpose, but nobody on the vegan side really care, because they love pet, it give them something.
Where’s the hypocrisy from the company? I don’t see it.
Maybe, but what's the alternative? Retiring to some backwood where we wouldn't need anything from the world? Before long the world would catch up with us. At the rate natural forests are cut down, we wouldn't be hermits for very long.
So “but this person / company is worse” is more rational than someone choosing not to buy a product? What’s the hypocrisy anyway?
Help save the animals. Make iPhone cases from vegans.
Now that's funny.
Knowing my luck, I'd end up having a case made from some dude's ball sack.
HA!
HA!
Now everyone's looking at me because I burst out laughing in class. Joe, you've done good.
Coming soon to Kickstarter. 100% vegan leather smartphone cases. Made 100% from vegans!
But what on earth would we do with the rest of the vegan?
Vegan fertiliser for my vegan grown tomato plants.
Augury? (Sorry, this is what happens when I'm up past midnight)
soylent green
Market it as 100% vegan meat. An alternative to pork. Humans apparently taste like pork because of their varied diets. Oh! Vegans might taste more like those pigs raised on acorns... Iberico ham. Yeah, maybe vegans have a nutty flavor. Lol!
Save humanity too. It would be nice to never have to hear how they are going to live to be 100 years old because they are vegan.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
Why are you so mad?
So...what would he use? Plastic? Ok. Plastic is made from petroleum, which is an environmental disaster on a whole bunch of fronts, from destroying habitats, to smoke belching factories and when it wears out (a LOT faster than leather does) it ends up in landfills where it will be for eternity, since it NEVER breaks down. ...///... How about cotton? Ok. Cotton is grown in heavily irrigated areas in depleted soil that requires millions of tons of petroleum based fertilizers and chemical insecticides. It must be processed in the aforementioned smoke-belching factories and assembled in even more factories, but that happens overseas so the self-righteous don't have to look at it. ...///... Leather is readily available, easily processed, and when you're done with it, it decomposes easily.
I was at a dinner once were a vegetarian was roast by a vegan cause she was a "hypocrite", "fake friend of animal" as she was using butter, milk or eggs and this is animal slavery. ( We, omnivorous, were never target) All the products this vegan girl brought to the dinner to replace or "monstruous products" were made with palm oil....
Sarah Thank you and everyone who thinks like you do so much for it. I'm still far away from being able to completely give up even meat, let alone every product that has something to do with animals, but I do try to eat less meat and choose the option with less impact when I know which one it is. I can't help but feel that people who go the 100% or nothing route are actually not worried about animals at all and just want to feel good about how morally superior they are. If they were really concerned, indeed every small step is a step.
Head desk
Thank you! I was thinking exactly the same about plastic...vegans seem to be oblivious to how that's worked out
I would have thought it was a no-brainer, and I want to smack people who say that their "vegan" shoes are somehow superior...because buying shoes that fall apart in a year are somehow comparable to my 20-year-old (and looking like new, thank you shoe guy) cowhide loafers? Nope. A whole world of no.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
No, they don’t.
Mr. Vegan would make a cover from discarded paper plates.
I have heard of vegan leathers being made from cork, pineapple, and coconut. Those products have less impact on the environment that petroleum products.
They're not leather.
There may exist 'vegan leather substitutes' but "vegan leather" is an oxymoron
Omnis got uncomfortable so you got downvotes.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
No, they really don't. Where do you think those things get processed? Lemme see...could it be big petroleum burning, air polluting, groundwater poisoning factories? Why yes. YES they are.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
Veganism has nothing to do with landfills or pollution though.
Yes. It is. It's about filling landfills with non-recyclable petroleum products and pretending that your virtuous about it. You CHOOSE to destroy massive amounts of the planet with your garbage.
Vetan leather is garbage waiting to happen. Don’t kid yourself. If more vegans worked harder for humane industrial animal husbandty instead of demonizing everyone, they would have less high ground to stand on.